Is there religion out there?

[etienne]

Only if the whiners are kosher ;-)

Atheist website, I assumed atheist whiners.  And I haven't been disappointed, lol!

[Solomon Zorn]

Yeah, just don't forget the damned words! [Like Bruce Campbell did, in Army of Darkness]

Yeah, I think he actually got them wrong, even when he got them right. I'm pretty sure Klaatu said, "Barada," and Ax said, "Varada".

Army of Darkness is a classic.

[trdsf]

Yooge waste of $ and resources anyway.  End starvation on earth 1st, then go out there, if you have to, but dont expect us to give you cab fare home when you get lost.

If we remain a one-planet species, we are ultimately doomed.  Not might be, are.  Even if we dodge a killer asteroid at some point in the future, either through luck or (hah!) foresight, even if we sort out our priorities with regard to the health of our planetary ecosphere, there is still a hard limit to how long we can stay here.  Unless you want to posit rejuvenating the sun, but I think that unlikely.

I don't buy the "let's fix things here first" argument.  In the first place, had we done that in the 1960s and 1970s, you would not be on this website arguing against exploration because NASA is where those fundamental communication technologies that allow the Internet to work were developed.  You would not have your cell phone, certainly not in slim pocket form.

Exploration breeds results.  And just because we can't predict what those results are going to be ahead of time is no reason to not explore.

[etienne]

If we remain a one-planet species, we are ultimately doomed.  Not might be, are.  Even if we dodge a killer asteroid at some point in the future, either through luck or (hah!) foresight, even if we sort out our priorities with regard to the health of our planetary ecosphere, there is still a hard limit to how long we can stay here.  Unless you want to posit rejuvenating the sun, but I think that unlikely.

I don't buy the "let's fix things here first" argument.  In the first place, had we done that in the 1960s and 1970s, you would not be on this website arguing against exploration because NASA is where those fundamental communication technologies that allow the Internet to work were developed.  You would not have your cell phone, certainly not in slim pocket form.

Exploration breeds results.  And just because we can't predict what those results are going to be ahead of time is no reason to not explore.

I can live w/o velcro, lol!  I don't think there is any substantial case that w/o space tech there wouldn't be the interwebs.  We would have gotten it regardless--inevitable.  DARPA(military) created it anyway.  But guess what, I can live just fine w/o computers and the interwebs, did it for decades.  I'd rather garden and play music, and go snorkeling, actually--much easier  But, I know there are space techy Treky freaks that just need themselves some SPACE, because they evidently dont have plenty already between their ears, lol!

Dream on dreamers, but you think the asteroid threat is bad here just wait til you get the F out there:


And I repeat, Starwars.  If Man doesn't check himself here real soon, he gonna wreck himself worse out there.

[Baruch]

If we remain a one-planet species, we are ultimately doomed.  Not might be, are.  Even if we dodge a killer asteroid at some point in the future, either through luck or (hah!) foresight, even if we sort out our priorities with regard to the health of our planetary ecosphere, there is still a hard limit to how long we can stay here.  Unless you want to posit rejuvenating the sun, but I think that unlikely.

I don't buy the "let's fix things here first" argument.  In the first place, had we done that in the 1960s and 1970s, you would not be on this website arguing against exploration because NASA is where those fundamental communication technologies that allow the Internet to work were developed.  You would not have your cell phone, certainly not in slim pocket form.

Exploration breeds results.  And just because we can't predict what those results are going to be ahead of time is no reason to not explore.

Tang.  DoD paid for it, not NASA.  DoD is pushing for the autonomous vehicles, thru DARPA, not Ford.

[fencerider]

explore the public privey?

dont think we need to explore the outer space yet. Ha. we got a whole nudder dimention insida Trump's head. Could take a while to explore that space. Besides you get to messin around in space yu'll be messin with the peace and quiet of my vacation home;-)

They are avoiding space for some reason. first they said about mars that we donr know if its possible for people to live there. Then they did biosphere 1 was suppsed to answer all their questions about a trip to Mars. Then they came out 20 years later with biosphere 2 and said they were getting answers to the same questions. Then just a couple years ago another research project to answer the same questions. Kinda like every election republicans in Congress talk about abortion et.al. but they never do anything cause if they did there wouldnt be anything to campaign about next time...

[etienne]

explore the public privey?

dont think we need to explore the outer space yet. Ha. we got a whole nudder dimention insida Trump's head. Could take a while to explore that space. Besides you get to messin around in space yu'll be messin with the peace and quiet of my vacation home;-)

They are avoiding space for some reason. first they said about mars that we donr know if its possible for people to live there. Then they did biosphere 1 was suppsed to answer all their questions about a trip to Mars. Then they came out 20 years later with biosphere 2 and said they were getting answers to the same questions. Then just a couple years ago another research project to answer the same questions. Kinda like every election republicans in Congress talk about abortion et.al. but they never do anything cause if they did there wouldnt be anything to campaign about next time...

"Avoiding"?  They already are fighting battles over "asteroid rights" in proximity to the Earth. 

http://www.planetaryresources.com/#home-intro

But I think they are full of poo if they think they are going to do much colonizing of other planets anytime soon, or ever.  The Ape in Thief may blow us all to Kingdom Come with his unopposable paw long before that.

[Baruch]

explore the public privey?

dont think we need to explore the outer space yet. Ha. we got a whole nudder dimention insida Trump's head. Could take a while to explore that space. Besides you get to messin around in space yu'll be messin with the peace and quiet of my vacation home;-)

They are avoiding space for some reason. first they said about mars that we donr know if its possible for people to live there. Then they did biosphere 1 was suppsed to answer all their questions about a trip to Mars. Then they came out 20 years later with biosphere 2 and said they were getting answers to the same questions. Then just a couple years ago another research project to answer the same questions. Kinda like every election republicans in Congress talk about abortion et.al. but they never do anything cause if they did there wouldnt be anything to campaign about next time...

I visited Oracle AZ, between Biosphere I and II ... a scam, by Texas billionaires.

[etienne]

I visited Oracle AZ, between Biosphere I and II ... a scam, by Texas billionaires.

Like they say, "those that live in glass houses shouldn't cast stones", did I get that right?  Good luck building that glass crap on 200 mph rock-storm Mars.

[Cavebear]

Like they say, "those that live in glass houses shouldn't cast stones", did I get that right?  Good luck building that glass crap on 200 mph rock-storm Mars.

Caves and skylights...

[Baruch]

Like they say, "those that live in glass houses shouldn't cast stones", did I get that right?  Good luck building that glass crap on 200 mph rock-storm Mars.

That happened before Elon Musk was able to get the taxpayer to subsidize his mad schemes, like electric cars.  He still loses money on each and every sale.  At least Texas oilmen were actually selling something at a profit.

[etienne]

That happened before Elon Musk was able to get the taxpayer to subsidize his mad schemes, like electric cars.  He still loses money on each and every sale.  At least Texas oilmen were actually selling something at a profit.

Black gold.

[Cavebear]

Black gold.

Oh good, Baruch and etienne are arguing.  Maybe this will keep them both busy and not bothering the rest of us.

[FinalSomnia]

Oh good, Baruch and etienne are arguing.  Maybe this will keep them both busy and not bothering the rest of us.

I'm not saying it's the unstoppable farce meets the immovable bore, but...

[Baruch]

Oh good, Baruch and etienne are arguing.  Maybe this will keep them both busy and not bothering the rest of us.

Etienne and I both agree that bears shit in the woods ;-)