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Started by fencerider, February 24, 2017, 01:09:18 AM

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etienne

#45
I kind of wish humans would "get over" the whole outer space thing, except for enjoying the pretty pictures Hubble Telescope, etc, provides.  Benign satellites are a nice thing too.  But living out there?  Forget about it.  You DON'T want to live out there.  It's a bunch of fire and rocks moving at high speeds and there is this one small problem called, "no air"!  If you are on Mars and there's a storm, it is a ROCK STORM, with 200 mph winds!  Just ask Matt Damon.  The thought of spending billions to "seed space"with human colonies is just plain absurd.  But, unfortunately, the 'good' little capitalists are already having "asteroid wars" over "rights" to asteroid mining in our solar system.  Destroy the Earth, then go destroy outer space.  Capitalism, like religion, poisons everything.

Quote"Asteroid mining is the exploitation of raw materials from asteroids and other minor planets, including near-Earth objects. Minerals and volatiles could be mined from an asteroid or spent comet then used in space for in-situ utilization (e.g. construction materials and rocket propellant) or taken back to Earth."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

trdsf

Quote from: etienne on March 10, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
I never saw "Jurassic Park" until just recently on HBO when I had some time to kill.  And the time was sufficiently killed, brutally.  I hated it, worst movie that Spielburg ever produced--wow, so bad.  I dont go in for most Hollywood flix(propaganda) these days, even the latest "Jason Bourne" was kind of lame, a reiteration.  I think they are done with Bourne movies now.  I loved the 1st 4.  But I will watch a well done drama of some pertinent history or something or a very well done spy thriller or sci-fi, of which there are fewer and fewer that have some originality.  There are only so many options in story telling.  ET is not on my radar, but  thanks!  :)
Oh, no.  ET was infinitely worse than Jurassic Park.

I know that it's the director's job to manipulate the viewer.  But in ET, the manipulation was done with a cattle prod that Spielberg didn't bother even trying to hide.  It was sloppy and clumsy, maudlin and mawkish.  I'll watch 1941 before I ever watch ET again.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

etienne

Quote from: trdsf on March 10, 2017, 11:52:52 PM
Oh, no.  ET was infinitely worse than Jurassic Park.

I know that it's the director's job to manipulate the viewer.  But in ET, the manipulation was done with a cattle prod that Spielberg didn't bother even trying to hide.  It was sloppy and clumsy, maudlin and mawkish.  I'll watch 1941 before I ever watch ET again.
It's difficult to believe that ET could be worse.  Thats the kind of crap that sells, though.  I dont even want to see another Marvel Comic super hero movie again, either.  The latest 'DeadPool' had some great one liners in it, but I'm done with super heroes, especially Batman/Superman.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Hydra009

#48
Quote from: etienne on March 10, 2017, 05:15:55 PMI kind of wish humans would "get over" the whole outer space thing, except for enjoying the pretty pictures Hubble Telescope, etc, provides.
<-- triggered

I'm not actually super angry, but contenting ourselves with pretty pictures and not actually going out there?  Really?

Worlds beyond counting.  Beyond naming, even.  We'd run out of names before we'd run out of planets.  Natural wonders galore.  Stuff beyond our wildest imaginations, and I have a pretty good imagination.

This is a massive opportunity right in front of our faces.  Not just to go somewhere else, but to learn and build and embark on the greatest journey mankind has ever taken and to become better than we were from the experience.  Space exploration is one of the few things people all around the world can get behind, and that unity of purpose, this shared dream, is incredibly important all by itself.

Besides, who wouldn't want to get a few AUs away from creationists, neonazis, and people who see nothing wrong with running video games at 30 fps?


etienne

#50
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 11, 2017, 01:21:42 AM
<-- triggered

I'm not actually super angry, but contenting ourselves with pretty pictures and not actually going out there?  Really?

Worlds beyond counting.  Beyond naming, even.  We'd run out of names before we'd run out of planets.  Natural wonders galore.  Stuff beyond our wildest imaginations, and I have a pretty good imagination.

This is a massive opportunity right in front of our faces.  Not just to go somewhere else, but to learn and build and embark on the greatest journey mankind has ever taken and to become better than we were from the experience.  Space exploration is one of the few things people all around the world can get behind, and that unity of purpose, this shared dream, is incredibly important all by itself.

Besides, who wouldn't want to get a few AUs away from creationists, neonazis, and people who see nothing wrong with running video games at 30 fps?
You can't get there from here.

Being out there just looks like what you see through the Hubble tele.  Thats it.  Big lights, fire and brimstone, moving at high speeds with NO AIR!  You think Earth is harsh, out "there" is harsh times a million.  You can't live out there, and have you explored all the amazing beauty of this planet, which you will never find out there?  How about do that before you die?  You get stranded out there, you'll be wishing you had your nice puppy dog to cuddle and a nice warm woman, or man, or tranny, or whatev.

AND, as I said, capitalists will just transport their imperialist insanity and violence out there.  So, no, you won't be able to get away from the Nazis.  You know about that wife-beating Darth Vader guy, right?  They call it Star WARS for a reason!

The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

etienne

#51
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 11, 2017, 01:25:51 AM
Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3c1QZzRK4
Yeah, great asteroid storms there, how "romantic".  I seriously dont agree with the premise.  I am content watching a robin hopping around all day.  Or gazing into a cat's eyes. Or or or...a million things.  How about learn classic guitar, there are whole universes there, and its cheaper--you can get a decnt guitar @ "The Pawnographers' Shop 'n Save"  Space is good for looking at, from afar, like, with your feet on the earth.

Yooge waste of $ and resources anyway.  End starvation on earth 1st, then go out there, if you have to, but dont expect us to give you cab fare home when you get lost.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Hydra009

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I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree, albeit with the heat of a thousand suns.

Baruch

Etienne, I not only like the cut of your jib, I like the hum of your lightsaber too.  And your blaster ... targeting that exact, you have to be an Imperial Stormtrooper!  Don't trust Hans Solo, if his gun arm is under the table though.

I have worked a little with NASA (I got three days, illicitly, working on the Hubble), knew others in the space business.  It is part of the Anglo-Russian imperialism.  It has just mutated from a subsidized public sector to a subsidized private sector ... the capitalism is even more corrupt than in the 1960s.  The exploitation of the masses no longer needs a fake government to act as a velvet glove ... we are getting the full metal gauntlet ... right in the kisser.

I am still an imperialist/police state guy ... but I am too rebellious not to appreciate the alternatives.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

etienne

#54
Quote from: Baruch on March 11, 2017, 05:41:06 AM
Etienne, I not only like the cut of your jib, I like the hum of your lightsaber too.  And your blaster ... targeting that exact, you have to be an Imperial Stormtrooper!  Don't trust Hans Solo, if his gun arm is under the table though.

I have worked a little with NASA (I got three days, illicitly, working on the Hubble), knew others in the space business.  It is part of the Anglo-Russian imperialism.  It has just mutated from a subsidized public sector to a subsidized private sector ... the capitalism is even more corrupt than in the 1960s.  The exploitation of the masses no longer needs a fake government to act as a velvet glove ... we are getting the full metal gauntlet ... right in the kisser.

I am still an imperialist/police state guy ... but I am too rebellious not to appreciate the alternatives.
Yeah, what you said.  I guess I showed "009" whats up, didnt I?

The USSR was the 1st ones to send a rocket to "space", wasn't they?  Yeah, I think so, that's cuz socialism is so BAD and nobody can do what they want, like play chess and classical piano and dance ballet and play hockey and cool stuff like that! 

They got that Virgin record guy, or somebody, sending rocket ships up there for no reason too when he's not crashing his jet planes into the ocean  Seriously, I'm not so sure the Space Buddies can pull it off going WAY out there where they say they want to.  Look at all the trouble they had with Matt Damon, and that's just MARS.  What if ISIS has taken over Mars and we have to build a space Ark and escape to the far reaches of Nebulon or something?  We are SCREWED!

Space, you don't wanna be there.

(P.S., You have GOT to see "Gentleman Broncos", if you haven't!)
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

etienne

#55
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 11, 2017, 02:12:46 AM
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I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree, albeit with the heat of a thousand suns.
Like I always say, if you've seen one supernova, you've seen them all.  And do you want to be directing traffic right next to a supernova when it decides to "go postal"?  I don't think so.  ;)
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Baruch

#56
Quote from: etienne on March 11, 2017, 07:24:03 AM
Like I always say, if you've seen one supernova, you've seen them all.  And do you want to be directing traffic right next to a supernova when it decides to "go postal"?  I don't think so.  ;)

Guys who grew up on video games, think there are "cheat codes" to real life.

Gentlemen Broncos?  Like Spinal Tap ... to 11.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

etienne

#57
Quote from: Baruch on March 11, 2017, 08:18:37 AM
Guys who grew up on video games, think there are "cheat codes" to real life.

Gentlemen Broncos?  Like Spinal Tap ... to 11.
I don't "get" the whole vid game thing.  I never even liked PacMan.  "Gentleman Broncos" is "out there" hilarious.  Sam Rockwell.  11 for sure.  That's all I'll say.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Baruch

Quote from: etienne on March 11, 2017, 09:40:28 AM
I don't "get" the whole vid game thing.  I never even liked PacMan.  "Gentleman Broncos" is "out there" hilarious.  Sam Rockwell.  11 for sure.  That's all I'll say.

Well, you are an artiste in spirit, yes?  I am from the Rocky Horror Picture generation.  But please, no French perfume commercials, nobody understands those ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

etienne

Quote from: Baruch on March 11, 2017, 09:44:57 AM
Well, you are an artiste in spirit, yes?  I am from the Rocky Horror Picture generation.  But please, no French perfume commercials, nobody understands those ;-)
If I had a spirit, yes.

Latest vid game offering from Nazi asshole Ahnold:
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...