Netherlands Favors Ban on Sharia Law

[stromboli]

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Polls don't mean that much unless there are political parties and leaders willing to implement them. The Netherlands may represent the first time that the counterjihad stars have aligned in a single country. Wilders' popularity is rising and tolerance for Islamic terror is declining.

More than three quarters of the Dutch (77 percent) believe that Islam is no enrichment for our country. More than two-thirds – 68 percent – say that there is enough Islam in the Netherlands. It is striking that a majority of voters from all political parties (from PVV to VVD, CDA, D66, PvdA, SP and 50plus) share this view.

PvdA is the Netherlands Labour Party. SP is the Socialist Party.

A poll conducted by the research bureau of Maurice de Hond (the Dutch equivalent of Gallup), commissioned by the PVV, among a representative sample of over 1,900 people also shows other striking results:

A majority of 55 percent favors stopping immigration from Islamic countries.

63 percent say: no new mosques.

72 percent favor a constitutional ban on Sharia law in the Netherlands.

64 percent say that the arrival of immigrants from Islamic countries has not been beneficial to the Netherlands.

Nearly three-quarters – 73 percent – of all Dutch see a relationship between Islam and the recent terror acts in Boston, London and Paris.

PVV leader Geert Wilders: "The results are very clear. The Netherlands has had enough of Islam. The majority do not want new immigrants from Islamic countries, nor any new mosques. They think that Islam is no enrichment for the Netherlands and say: Enough is enough. I will confront the Dutch government with these findings and demand that we finally stop the Islamisation of the Netherlands. For a long time is has been claimed that anti-Islamic opinions are extremist. It is clear now that a majority of our people supports them!"

Maybe the new gates aren't in Vienna after all.

Good. Now if the government acts politically to stop the influx of immigrants and works to limit or remove Sharia Law, we're getting somewhere.

[Shiranu]

A majority of 55 percent favors stopping immigration from Islamic countries.

I do not like this number. Just because you are from an Islamic country does not make you an Islamist, anymore than me being from America makes me a redneck, gay hating, gun totting, arrogant psychopath.

Reduce immigration numbers? Fine. Screen people who come in? Fine. But an outright ban on immigration crosses the line imo. So many of them come to get an education, and denying them that opportunity will help neither your country nor theirs.

63 percent say: no new mosques.

I don't know the number of mosques in the Netherlands, so I cant say anything about them having too many already or whatever. But again I think what would be more effective is screen the imams and the congregation before allowing a mosque to be built; if it is a group of Muslims who are willing to integrate into society (as so many are), then let them have it. Unless churches or synagogues also not suppose to be built, in which case don't let them have it. And if you screen people coming into the country to keep those who won't integrate out, this becomes even less of a problem.

72 percent favor a constitutional ban on Sharia law in the Netherlands.

No argument here.

64 percent say that the arrival of immigrants from Islamic countries has not been beneficial to the Netherlands.

Perhaps its coming from two high immigrant states, but to me this again sounds bad. Conservatives here say the same thing... "Mexican immigrants are destroying our nation!". Yes, there are Mexicans that commit violent crime or are related to the drug cartels; but there are also a shitload who do jobs that your average American wouldn't or who go on to be professional workers.

Otherwise I agree with them for the most part; I just don't think the answer is ban all Muslims.

[stromboli]

This is obviously a highly conservative slant. somebody like Gerard might weigh in on a more liberal view, I don't know. But if the polls are correct, it would appear the levels of liberal tolerance are declining. Remains to be seen how other European countries react as well.

[Plu]

I am rather suspicious of polls being commissioned by the primary "anti-Islam" party in the Netherlands, the same one that's full of people who never come up with any solutions but do blame everything on Islam and are good at shouting and getting a following from the botom of dutch society, and then having that poll align perfectly with what they've been saying. I'd rather have seen the poll being commissioned by a more objective source.

That said, count me in the alleged 72% that's for a constitutional ban on sharia law, that shit belongs in the middle ages, not western europe in the 21st century. And overall, not an awful lot of good has come from islamic immigrants, but that doesn't mean we should hold the shit a lot of them do against the ones that don't.

[pr126]

Fuck the polls. Who cares what humans want? Allah didn't create them to enjoy life.

Quran 51:56  And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.

Now get down in the dirt and grovel to me.

[Cocoa Beware]

Well... why not?

Its not as if there has ever been much of an attempt by Europe`s Muslim population to be accepting or open minded themselves. I figured something like this was inevitable in that part of the world.

[Sal1981]

I think that any imposing culture, law, what have you, that doesn't jive with the countries already established laws should be circumspect. Seeing as Sharia Law is so brutish, I have a hard time seeing any extent of Sharia being imposed with the already preceding laws.

[Jmpty]

In the US, some idiot lawmakers have proposed and passed bans on Sharia law. What a waste of time and money. How is anyone going to "impose" Sharia in a country that already has rule of law? Stupid.

[Cocoa Beware]

Honestly, I think the way the Dutch feel is understandable.

No one can be expected to willingly invite a specific group of people into their country when all too often this group of people have sought to undermine the countries they have already been welcomed into.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

I'd like a ban on 'bible law' as well. Christians don't assimilate well either. Look how long it's taken to assimilate with the founding principles of the separation of church and state here in the US..  

Oh wait.. they haven't..

[Plu]

Yeah. The Netherlands is finally considering to let shops open on sunday whenever they feel like it instead of making all sorts of rules about who can and cannot be open. I'm willing to bet the rule stayed on the books as long as it did mostly because of the religious folks.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Yeah. The Netherlands is finally considering to let shops open on sunday whenever they feel like it instead of making all sorts of rules about who can and cannot be open. I'm willing to bet the rule stayed on the books as long as it did mostly because of the religious folks.

They finally did away with most 'blue laws' here although some are still in effect. I suspect it was so commerce didn't grind to a halt one day a week because even Texas repealed most of theirs. God is NOT pleased and keeps killing people there with tornadoes.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yeah. The Netherlands is finally considering to let shops open on sunday whenever they feel like it instead of making all sorts of rules about who can and cannot be open. I'm willing to bet the rule stayed on the books as long as it did mostly because of the religious folks.

They finally did away with most 'blue laws' here although some are still in effect. I suspect it was so commerce didn't grind to a halt one day a week because even Texas repealed most of theirs. God is NOT pleased and keeps killing people there with tornadoes.

I think you've got Oklahoma on your mind, kid.

[Jmpty]

Many counties in Minnesota still don't allow liquor stores to be open on Sunday.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Many counties in Minnesota still don't allow liquor stores to be open on Sunday.

Those goddamned rednecks.