I know when I first joined this group I was a hot head and didn't know the refutations, just had a gut feeling and an attitude, but over the past decade or so I have read my ass off, studied, and learned so much thanks to the four horsemen, Seth, Reggie, Hawking, Dawkins especially, Aron, just tons and tons of information on a daily basis. Debating may not be as fun, but is sure is easy now. I think my "greatest moment' on here was that preacher that I used to butt heads with on a personal hate level......but then he came back about a year later and actually thanked me for helping to convert him. Now I don't do battle against the "enemy" but give the best refutation I can to help the fence sitters along the thought journey. I have converted quite a few including my wife from the dark side. We are still the largest growing group of people, the "nones". I just wish we could see the end of faith in our life times.