Evidence for God

[Blackleaf]

Most certainly ... but even if your knowledge of someone (not something) is consistently (more or less) gives your confidence in them, then your trust (but not anyone else's) is justifiable, is it not?

If I meet a celebrity, and people don't believe that I did, it's because my experience does not match theirs. Next time you meet god, take his photograph and have him sign it for us. Then we will know you're telling the truth.

[Sorginak]

Most certainly ... but even if your knowledge of someone (not something) is consistently (more or less) gives your confidence in them, then your trust (but not anyone else's) is justifiable, is it not?

Certainly, so long as the person is physically available in order for me to interact with him/her.

[Baruch]

If I meet a celebrity, and people don't believe that I did, it's because my experience does not match theirs. Next time you meet god, take his photograph and have him sign it for us. Then we will know you're telling the truth.

We meet G-d all the time, in our fellow humans, and in any other living thing, and even nonliving thing.  But you don't recognize Her.

[Sorginak]

We meet G-d all the time, in our fellow humans, and in any other living thing, and even nonliving thing.  But you don't recognize Her.

*Queues Joan of Arcadia*

[Baruch]

*Queues Joan of Arcadia*

Art is how we articulate our understanding of reality.  Hamlet really isn't about Denmark in the Middle Ages ... it is much more profound than that.

[Sorginak]

Art is how we articulate our understanding of reality.  Hamlet really isn't about Denmark in the Middle Ages ... it is much more profound than that.

You are correct, it is more psychological in nature.

[Baruch]

You are correct, it is more psychological in nature.

All human existence is performance art, psycho-drama.  Que the stage at Theater of Dionysus, Athens, 420 BCE.

[Cavebear]

If god was real and theists had actual evidence for his existence, wouldn't faith be null and void?

Therefore, what is the point of having faith if there is actual evidence of god's existence?

But there isn't.  And good for us, because a deity could pull the plug on us anytime.  And as dumb as we can be, I'll trust our survival on ourselves more than some deity's whim...

[fencerider]

what is the point of having faith if there is actual evidence of god's existence?

yes, well some of these Christian people have been doing this faith thing for so long they couldn't function without it. Others have been so programmed to the ethereal that they wouldn't believe your evidence is real. So find the real evidence for the atheists, but keep faith around to keep the natives happy...

[Baruch]

yes, well some of these Christian people have been doing this faith thing for so long they couldn't function without it. Others have been so programmed to the ethereal that they wouldn't believe your evidence is real. So find the real evidence for the atheists, but keep faith around to keep the natives happy...

i can keep one foot in each camp.  That is what defines a shaman.  Never go full retard, either direction.

[Unbeliever]

Good thing ... if you pull off Godzilla's tail, he can grow a new one ;-)

Ah, that's nothing - some lizards can expel their skin and grow new skin!

And can he grow six tails at once?

I think not...

[Unbeliever]

Actually, that's a pretty good way to define faith. Belief in something that doesn't make sense.

Yep, the word "God" is just another way of saying "I don't understand!"

[Sorginak]

Yep, the word "God" is just another way of saying "I don't understand!"

Precisely, god is used as a means for intellectually lazy individuals to fill in the gaps. 

[Cavebear]

i can keep one foot in each camp.  That is what defines a shaman.  Never go full retard, either direction.

The perfect definition of any successful religious leader...  No actual belief, just happy to have a scam job involving no real work.

[Baruch]

The perfect definition of any successful religious leader...  No actual belief, just happy to have a scam job involving no real work.

Perhaps.  All real religious leaders are heretics, but they are rare.  The rest are "management" which is the same everywhere.  So do you oppose the idle rich?