Author Topic: Evidence for God  (Read 4157 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2017, 02:28:11 PM »
Its a simple straightforward question.  Do you think anything can travel faster than a photon?

Yes and no ... creating a post for this in the physics section, if you care to continue ;-)
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Offline aitm

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2017, 04:13:51 PM »
babble/snip

and yet god is befuddled by the menses and foiled by iron chariots...shit man..find your self a REAL god. At least Odin killed off the ice giants.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2017, 04:22:51 PM »
That is funny, isn't it? How Christians are all experts on what God is like, what's important to him, what his attributes are. But as soon as someone criticizes their god, he suddenly becomes unknowable.
My favorite one is that God is crystal clear that homosexuality is an abomination, but the age of the Earth?  Just don't know.  Could be 6,000.  Could be 4.5 billion.

Experts in where you can stick your dick, but don't science so good.  Coincidentally, the second statement is the one that can be objectively disproven.  So if you don't know what you're talking about and you're just making stuff up as you go along, it's way safer to stick to the sex stuff.
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2017, 11:51:20 AM »
and yet god is befuddled by the menses and foiled by iron chariots...shit man..find your self a REAL god. At least Odin killed off the ice giants.
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2017, 01:13:35 PM »
Yaknow, if you're going to assert your bible as an authority, we need to see the independent support for it.  It isn't a text book or reference library.  And if just existing as a large book is enough to make it authoritative, then there's just as much evidence for the existence of a school for wizards and witches in the UK.

As for the rest of the argument, it's just the "But... but... but... rainbows!  Sunsets!  Puppies!  Therefore god!" argument writ large, and it's still not compelling.

Stars don't have a 'purpose' beyond fusing hydrogen (and if large enough, heavier elements), and perhaps exploding.  What they have is an explanation.  We know, to the limits of current observation and theory, how they work and how they come about.  And that knowledge is subject to change as further information and better theories come in.

This is why science is better than faith: it has both the humility and the wisdom to say, "I don't know everything, so let's independently check my result -- which is provisional anyway pending better observations and a more complete theory."  They don't say (except for a couple rare exceptions, physical limitation things like not having fractional atomic numbers) that something is definitely the case, period, end of statement.

The god hypothesis offers nothing of value in comparison to that.  No awe, no wonder, no drive to look further.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning." -- Calvin and Hobbes
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2017, 06:52:59 AM »
I offer a new deity; the God Of Static.  That exists. Ouch!
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Offline Baruch

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2017, 08:53:55 AM »
I offer a new deity; the God Of Static.  That exists. Ouch!

The enemy of the goddess, Electronica!
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2017, 12:12:30 PM »
The god hypothesis offers nothing of value
oh but it does, it does laughed the priest all the way to the bank.
not expecting god to show up, but if he does we’re going to have to beat the prick up.

Offline Baruch

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2017, 12:14:56 PM »
oh but it does, it does laughed the priest all the way to the bank.

There is a story about this somewhere ... ah, in 1 Samuel, about the sons of Eli.  Nothing new under the Biblical sun.
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2017, 02:34:14 PM »
The only god whose existence you need to worry about is our Lord and Lizard.




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Offline Baruch

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2017, 04:34:39 PM »
Good thing ... if you pull off Godzilla's tail, he can grow a new one ;-)
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Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2017, 11:54:40 PM »
Good thing ... if you pull off Godzilla's tail, he can grow a new one ;-)
The real question is if the tail will grow a new Godzilla
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Offline Sorginak

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2017, 12:02:27 AM »
If god was real and theists had actual evidence for his existence, wouldn't faith be null and void?

Therefore, what is the point of having faith if there is actual evidence of god's existence?

Offline doorknob

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2017, 12:07:00 AM »
What is the point of having faith period!

Faith in god is another word for stupidity. Believe what I tell you. I can't prove it so you have to have faith that what I am saying is true.

Does that sound like fraud to you? It does to me.

Offline Sorginak

Re: Evidence for God
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2017, 12:13:32 AM »
Granted, though I would rather approach the subject rather less antagonistically.