"My Job is to Shut Other White People Down"

Started by pr126, January 27, 2017, 12:49:05 AM

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Notthesun

I watched this video and I did not take issue with anything she said.
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Shiranu

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Cavebear

Quote from: Notthesun on February 14, 2017, 11:43:43 PM
I watched this video and I did not take issue with anything she said.

Your intent escapes me.  Could you please elaborate?
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Notthesun

Quote from: Cavebear on February 15, 2017, 01:10:30 AM
Your intent escapes me.  Could you please elaborate?

It was an overall reply to all the others that commented on this thread.
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His life rushes onward in such torrential rhythm that only angels and devils can catch the tempo of it.

etienne

#19
Quote from: Atheon on January 27, 2017, 09:31:45 AM
Atrocious. This kind of shit is alienating and self-defeating. We need to unify like MLK and other Civil Rights leaders of the 1960s did.
The vid was removed before I could view it.

But where is all this "unity" of which you speak?  Were the Panthers "unified" with MLK or Nation of Islam or SNCC?

When in the history of civilization has there ever been "unity" among human beings?  Were the serfs in "unity" with the barons or the King?   Am I, a working stiff, to be in "unity" with Warren Buffet or Bill Gates?  Should atheists "unify" with Christians?  Should a woman "unify" with her rapist?  Should Native Americans or Blacks "unify" with Whites, considering their history? Should Communists "unify" with Nazis?  Should a pacifist "unify" behind the military?  Am I "unified" with entire populations on the other side of the globe?  And what is the "unification" against?  Is any human required to be in "unity" with any other human?  And to what extent are humans even able to "unify"? The concept is, FTMP, a myth.  Humans need resources and enough power over their lives so as to ward off would-be oppressors.  Other than that, humans can associate with whomever they choose.  There is no "unity" in a broad sense.

Food for thought.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Baruch

Unity in society is where a sadist marries a masochist ;-)  Don't knock it, if you can't do it.  I am as irritated at my fellow humans as you are ... we differ on solutions to this problem.  In my case, my solution is ... eventually I won't be in this world anymore, one way or another.  I don't expect 7 billion ape men to change, just to please me.  Also I don't think I can add a positive spin to things, by instituting a gulag.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

etienne

Quote from: Baruch on March 15, 2017, 06:48:21 AM
Unity in society is where a sadist marries a masochist ;-)  Don't knock it, if you can't do it.  I am as irritated at my fellow humans as you are ... we differ on solutions to this problem.  In my case, my solution is ... eventually I won't be in this world anymore, one way or another.  I don't expect 7 billion ape men to change, just to please me.  Also I don't think I can add a positive spin to things, by instituting a gulag.
Well, in class struggle, the owners are generally unified in their own material interests which are consolidated by written legislation to their favor.  The poor unify in struggle against them only when hungry enough. Hunger can be "unifying".  I think its a material thing as to "unifying", but in a factionalized and mostly unsustained way.  Krishnamurti said it is very rare that you actually meet someone that is intellectually attuned or close to you at any one time, and I have found that to be true.  "Unifying" as to race, well, not all Blacks like each other or have the same class interests, same with Whites or any "race".  There is no "pure race" anyway, it's another myth.  It's an interesting subject, this "unity".
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Baruch

Well, you may be intelligentsia .. but you don't seem to be an apparachnik.  I am an apparachnik.  So was Cavebear.  I would love to stamp your paperwork, with a two-by-four, right between your eyes ;-)  Most of the people here are "tres artiste".  So-hos.

I don't see life as a class struggle.  Studied Marxism in my youth, along with 4 years Russian in HS.  Could see the flaws in all positions.  Ape men ... want another shiny banana?

I have never met anyone attuned to me, but I have been a moving target for over 6 decades.  This is why my intellectual circle is inclusive, not exclusive.  I have stood in the cell where Socrates died .. no man is alien to me.  Yes, it is a one way conversation when you talk to interesting dead people ... but there are always seances ;-)  Identity is more interesting to me than unity ... I am not into sadism.  But that is just the Western in me, giddy-ap little doggie!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

etienne

#23
Quote from: Baruch on March 15, 2017, 07:30:05 AM
Well, you may be intelligentsia .. but you don't seem to be an apparachnik.  I am an apparachnik.  So was Cavebear.  I would love to stamp your paperwork, with a two-by-four, right between your eyes ;-)  Most of the people here are "tres artiste".  So-hos.

I don't see life as a class struggle.  Studied Marxism in my youth, along with 4 years Russian in HS.  Could see the flaws in all positions.  Ape men ... want another shiny banana?

I have never met anyone attuned to me, but I have been a moving target for over 6 decades.  This is why my intellectual circle is inclusive, not exclusive.  I have stood in the cell where Socrates died .. no man is alien to me.  Yes, it is a one way conversation when you talk to interesting dead people ... but there are always seances ;-)  Identity is more interesting to me than unity ... I am not into sadism.  But that is just the Western in me, giddy-ap little doggie!
I'm just a college educated socialist proletarian/musician/carpenter, like Jesus and just like Marx wanted.  Yay.  I know not of these of these fucking weird words you throw out there that nobody's ever heard of.  "Apparachniks"?  And maybe I dont wanna know. 

You may not "see' the class struggle, but you are in it, were born into it, and will die in it when the mortician takes your last penny.  The class war is going on all around you, and the lower classes, except for a few noteworthy instances, have alway been the "losers".  When your Bossman fires you, it is class war, when the POS landlord evicts you, it is class war, when they shut down your electric and heat in the winter, it is class war.  When you have to eat crappy hot dogs while shitheads like Tramp eat filet mignon, its class war.  When you have to serve the useless bourgeoisie, its class war.  When they unilaterally tax you, its class war.  When they send you to die in their imperialistic wars, its class war.  Etc.

I basically dont feel "close" to most Americans anymore--for about 40 years now, lol.  A), because they are all brainwashed anti-commie capitalists, even though they mostly are wage working stiffs, they defend the Bosses and capitalism that continually fucks them, blah blah, its insane and only in 'Murica does the working class think and behave like that.  B), The American mainstream "culture" has gone completely into the gutter, so I feel isolated about everywhere--it's so bad.  Bad food, bad music, bad politics, bad medicine, bad religion, bad movies, bad MSM, bad bad bad.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

pr126

Eating crappy hot dogs would have been a welcome change to the starving proles in the communist heaven of the USSR.

Have you read George Orwell's Animal Farm?

Sorginak


etienne

#26
Quote from: pr126 on March 15, 2017, 09:15:39 AM
Eating crappy hot dogs would have been a welcome change to the starving proles in the communist heaven of the USSR.

Have you read George Orwell's Animal Farm?
Blah, blah, blah, say something original.  Yeah, there're no starving people in the USA, etc.

Animal Farm?!  LOL, you've got your script DOWN PAT, I gotta hand it to ya, professor. Seriously, are you reading your lines there?(refer to "anti-commie tips" vid on the so-comm thread.)

FYI, professor, the only reason why there wasnt mass starvation in Russia when "The Ronny tore the wall down with his bare hands and teeth" and the USSR tanked and the good ol' cap scavengers came in, was that the majority of the population was/is small farmers and kept on keeping on growing and distribution food so as there city brethren wouldnt starve as the caps tried to take over the food supply.  As the USA continues to go down, guess what, ~2% are farmers and they dont grow food, they grow mono crops for industry.  Good luck Murica when the shit hits the fan this century.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Sorginak


etienne

#28
Quote from: Sorginak on March 15, 2017, 09:46:34 AM
Or better yet:


Thats the problem with Murica, they're so bought and paid for with Bread and Circus that they will elect to the PRESIDENCY a rich celeb that has ZERO knowledge or experience in, er, politics, poli sci, law, foreign affairs etc.  The Pres is mostly a brand name front man anyway.  Look at that Ape they have in there now.  Good job Murica!
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 15, 2017, 09:57:33 AM
Thats the problem with Murica, they're so bought and paid for with Bread and Circus that they will elect to the PRESIDENCY a rich celeb that has ZERO knowledge or experience in, er, politics, poli sci, law, foreign affairs etc.  The Pres is mostly a brand name front man anyway.  Look at that Ape they have in there now.  Good job Murica!

I bake my own bread, and I don't attend circuses.  And I didn't vote for Trump.
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