Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him

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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

Video: Intel chiefs inform Trump of Russian claims 11:30

Quote(CNN)Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.

The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations, which are based primarily on information from Russian sources, but has not confirmed many essential details in the memos about Mr. Trump.

The classified briefings last week were presented by four of the senior-most US intelligence chiefs -- Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.

One reason the nation's intelligence chiefs took the extraordinary step of including the synopsis in the briefing documents was to make the President-elect aware that such allegations involving him are circulating among intelligence agencies, senior members of Congress and other government officials in Washington, multiple sources tell CNN.
These senior intelligence officials also included the synopsis to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats. This synopsis was not an official part of the report from the intelligence community case about Russian hacks, but some officials said it augmented the evidence that Moscow intended to harm Clinton's candidacy and help Trump's, several officials with knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.
The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.

Sources tell CNN that these same allegations about communications between the Trump campaign and the Russians, mentioned in classified briefings for congressional leaders last year, prompted then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid to send a letter to FBI Director Comey in October, in which he wrote, "It has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government -- a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States."

CNN has confirmed that the synopsis was included in the documents that were presented to Mr. Trump but cannot confirm if it was discussed in his meeting with the intelligence chiefs.

The Trump transition team declined repeated requests for comment.
CNN has reviewed a 35-page compilation of the memos, from which the two-page synopsis was drawn. The memos originated as opposition research, first commissioned by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats. At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations. But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos.

Some of the memos were circulating as far back as last summer. What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago.

On the same day that the President-elect was briefed by the intelligence community, the top four Congressional leaders, and chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees -- the so-called "Gang of Eight" -- were also provided a summary of the memos regarding Mr. Trump, according to law enforcement, intelligence and administration sources.

The two-page summary was written without the detailed specifics and information about sources and methods included in the memos by the former British intelligence official. That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders.

CNN has also learned that on December 9, Senator John McCain gave a full copy of the memos -- dated from June through December, 2016 -- to FBI Director James Comey.
McCain became aware of the memos from a former British diplomat who had been posted in Moscow. But the FBI had already been given a set of the memos compiled up to August 2016, when the former MI6 agent presented them to an FBI official in Rome, according to national security officials.

The raw memos on which the synopsis is based were prepared by the former MI6 agent, who was posted in Russia in the 1990s and now runs a private intelligence gathering firm. His investigations related to Mr. Trump were initially funded by groups and donors supporting Republican opponents of Mr. Trump during the GOP primaries, multiple sources confirmed to CNN. Those sources also said that once Mr. Trump became the nominee, further investigation was funded by groups and donors supporting Hillary Clinton. Spokespeople for the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment. Officials who spoke to CNN declined to do so on the record given the classified nature of the material.

Some of the allegations were first reported publicly in Mother Jones one week before the election.
One high level administration official told CNN, "I have a sense the outgoing administration and intelligence community is setting down the pieces so this must be investigated seriously and run down. I think [the] concern was to be sure that whatever information was out there is put into the system so it is evaluated as it should be and acted upon as necessary."
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Baruch

Nice summary.  GB and MI6 are horrified that the US might dump the "special relationship" and join up with Russia instead.  This is what Winston Churchill feared ... and why I think Churchill had FDR's death hastened, and then Churchill basically took over US foreign policy under Truman, to get the Cold War going, his way.  Churchill felt personally betrayed at Yalta by FDR.  There would have been a Cold War anyway ... Stalin being the monster he was.  Churchill was also a monster, who the British people kicked out at his moment of greatest triumph.

Intel comes from wherever it comes, usually out of some analyst's ass not because of private papers stolen from heads of state.  Intel always assumes the worst case (based on some view of what worse means).  Based on Intel, there should have been nuclear war every year since 1945 ... as General Patton suggested in 1945.

As far as the contents of what you posted, I have no way of assessing it, anymore than I can tell what Jesus had for breakfast.  No way to cross-examine the claims.  Every nation seeks to influence, it is standard KGB practice to gather compromising material ... and every other fiction writer writes stories about public figures being compromised by such.  J Edgar Hoover had compromising material on everyone ... he was the real President for decades.

Senator McCain is a brain dead war monger.  He met with ISIS several years ago in Jordan ... he is the unofficial MIC president of the US.
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Cocoa Beware

Allegedly the Russians have some kind of ""blackmail"" file on Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vErmD2UazKk

-Purported meetings during 2016 campaign between Trump reps and Russian officials
-Topics discussed include DNC & Podesta hacking
-Hacking carried out with ""full knowledge & support"" of Trump & campaign team

Also, on a more ridiculous note: Memos describe sex videos with prostitutes and apparent ""Golden showers"" (the videos themselves are described as ""komprimat"", a Russian term for blackmail)

I'm not sure if this can be proven, or if so what it might mean, but this is all very interesting and amusing.

Also, in an angry and terribly ironic response via twitter, Trump once again shows how much of an idiot he is:




drunkenshoe

This is really bad and stupid. There is nothing to go on if they can't openly break out some direct evidence to prove everything they claim. And meanwhile this will not just harm US, eventually all of us. Dollar is soaring high over here, breaking record after record. Trump's win had a very bad impact.

By the way, who cares about sex tapes and golden showers and what not. If they try to attack him with that unless the have an unmistakable shot of raping a child, there is n use.

This got out of control so ridiculously, I started to think that there is another catch we ordinary people cannot follow. A simple one, not a conspiracy

-May be the and information regarding this claims were obtained in a way that would cause more trouble in the long run as a political strategy between Russia and US?

-May be there is nothing, but they are just trying to show that this man is not equipped to handle that chair by trying to corner him?

I have no idea. But this needs to reach somewhere fast or just stop.


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drunkenshoe

Quote from: pr126 on January 12, 2017, 02:06:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnoukNWR840

"Spreading" hooker hoax?

The video shows McCain saying that he came in posession of some sensitive information and unable to make a judgement about their accuracy, delivering it to the director of FBI. Obviously, he thought it was alarming enough to do considering his own positon. Why would he abondon his support just for nothing without any reason. He clearly had a reason. (I can't believe I defended a republican ffs).

That is not spreading some hoax. Spreading hoax is making up stories and selling them to news channels and media.

Also the host of the video 'backs' this up with " 'a lot of people' are saying 4Chan trolled th CIA, but more likely this is Hillary campaign opposition research" then he goes on with "But did McCain warn Trump? No, he went to FBI?" and " 'Even' Russia slams the claims".

:arrow: Some sort of an alarming sensitive information about then AMERICAN PRESIDENT CANDIDATE related to a foreign source like FUCKING RUSSIA is something you need to run and tell your daddy about, esp. if you do not know what it is, esp. during an already going on scandal with the specific country.

The media channels didn't report it, because they didn't know about it at that time? Because McCain himself says he reported to FBI, not to the media.  Emphasis on 'at that time'.

Russia denies it? WOW that is a curve ball. It explains everything.



By the way, the moron who made the video:

Wiki:

Quote"Mark Shouldice (born December 21, 1977), known professionally as Mark Dice,[1] is a conservative American author and conspiracy theorist based in San Diego, California, who argues that organizations such as the Bilderberg Group, Skull and Bones, and Bohemian Grove are actually New World Order secret societies which direct human affairs and global politics, particularly those of the United States.


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Baruch

Some people still believe in journalists ... and the tooth fairy ;-(  Unfortunately what the Drudge Report dug up on Bill Clinton was true.

People who think that they are going to get inside information of the actual lives of the plutocracy ... are voyours.  McCain is a psycho warmonger who thinks he and Sarah Palin should be President.  I wouldn't believe McCain if he quoted 2+2=4.

All American politicians are reptilian aliens.  Get used to it.  The FBI always keeps blackmail material on all US office holders ... it comes in handy.  Anything genuine that McCain could give them, they already had.  And the CIA keeps the blackmail files on the FBI.  Thank god Putin is running things.
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In case nobody is connecting the dots...

Quote"In case you haven't connected the news dots... Putin owns the largest oil company in Russia. He made a 500 Billion dollar deal with the CEO of Exxon Mobil. Obama put sanctions in place which stopped that deal. Russia then hacked into our government in order to get Trump elected. When the CIA told Congress this in September (James Comey was also in that meeting), Mitch McConnell refused to tell the American people, blackmailing Obama saying he would frame it as playing partisan politics during the election. Comey released the infamous no-information letter. Mitch McConnell's wife was picked for Trump's cabinet. The CEO of Exxon is now the front runner for Secretary of State. Wonder why our President elect has been so quick to dismiss the CIA's findings?
Here are some facts : Decide for yourselves
1) Trump owes Blackstone/ Bayrock group $560 million dollars (one of his largest debtors and the primary reason he won't reveal his tax returns)
2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires, who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed that owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
4) The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over-dependence on raw materials which as you know have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
5) Russia has an impetus to influence our election to ensure the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50)
6) Russia can't affordably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45 or Saudi Arabia at $39. With Iranian sanctions being lifted Russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing Russia further down the list of suppliers.
As for Iranian sanctions, the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed. Trump spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
7) Rex Tillerson (Trump's pick for Secretary of State) is the head of ExxonMobil, which is in possession of patented technology that could help Putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute its military and finally afford to mass produce the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russian economy had slowed so much.
8) Putin cannot get access to these new cost saving technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, because of its involvement in Ukrainian civil war.
9) Look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer, thus allowing Trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone.
10) With Trump's fabricated hatred of NATO and the U.N., the Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the Baltic states is real. Russia retaking their access to the Baltic Sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia, allowing Russia to make a good case for its oil and gas being piped into eastern Europe.
Sources: Time Magazine, NY Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian UK."
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AllPurposeAtheist

John McCain was known as the song bird when being put up in the Hanoi Hilton. Sylvia spoke with one of his fellow "inmates" several years ago and that information was never made public . John Kerry was also in with the same bunch. The "swiftboat" bunch were partially right, but very conveniently left out McCain's involvement. It's no wonder McCain and Kerry speak so highly of each other. They both have the exact same dirt on each other.   
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Connecting the dots ... is what makes a conspiracy nut.  There are no connections and no dots ... except the one's the CIA identifies.
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No, the exploding number of people who have to keep a secret conspiracy a secret is what makes a conspiracy nut.
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Quote from: Cocoa Beware on January 12, 2017, 01:34:59 AM
Also, on a more ridiculous note: Memos describe sex videos with prostitutes and apparent ""Golden showers""


Well, hell, Chump's a billionaire...of course he has golden showers...
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