Author Topic: Worst case scenario realized: Trump will try to do exactly what he said he would  (Read 2003 times)

Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Sen McCain believes that Trump is a traitor?  You know he is insane, right?
I wasn't speaking of McCan't..He was a traitor before being a traitor was cool. #hashtag Songbird
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Offline Baruch

See, I know you are like me, you believe everything you read on the Internet ;-)  McCain represents a click of Graham and Rubio, who can't relieve their blue balls until we nuke Moscow ... and Tehran.
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Baruch, I can't tell you why or how I know McCan't got the songbird moniker ,but I will say it didn't come from yet another online source. It came from someone who I know personally and would trust with my life. I'm a small, small fish in a universe of ponds so my opinion matters about as much as the drunks opinions at AA meetings about abstinence only birth control. 
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Offline Baruch

Baruch, I can't tell you why or how I know McCan't got the songbird moniker ,but I will say it didn't come from yet another online source. It came from someone who I know personally and would trust with my life. I'm a small, small fish in a universe of ponds so my opinion matters about as much as the drunks opinions at AA meetings about abstinence only birth control.

I recently heard the rumor.  About his collaboration at the Hanoi Hilton.  But surely not like Jane Fonda.  But advocating nuclear war ... is insane.
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

I recently heard the rumor.  About his collaboration at the Hanoi Hilton.  But surely not like Jane Fonda.  But advocating nuclear war ... is insane.
It's only insane if you think it's worth surviving an all out nuclear war where the entire face of the earth is toast.  But of course those in favor of nuclear war will always tell us that it'll be extremely limited and the other side would never fire back.  Nah, they'd never do that now would they?
Problem is too many people read the 'out of the ashes' books and actually believe there's some benevolent wonder hero who will lead us to the magical utopia post nuclear war world..
Personally I don't happen to subscribe to that notion.
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One more week to go before America dies and the Peoples Republic of Trumpistan, led by King Donald the Worst, takes its place. Lube up your asses... it'll be slightly less painful when the Republicans start fucking us for four years straight.
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Offline Baruch

Nuclear or biological war isn't sane, no matter what post apocalypse fantasies some people subscribe to.  And if it is like any other war, there will be many unexpected turns of events, usually more negative than planned, including vicious vengeance fantasies such as my co-workers used to dream about during the Cold War.

Similarly dreams of American Left or Right dictatorship ... is pretty insane too, even if no one is killed outright.  People who talk about mass violence in this way, are cousins to Nazis (including cray Israelis).
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Alright.  Let us try to unemotionally analyze Trump.

He is more nationalistic and protectionist than the previous several administrations.  Note, the word "nationalistic" does not mean "national socialist" or "white nationalist" so drop that before you start.

Although I disagree with protectionism, it is refreshingly honest.  I prefer free trade, which is why I oppose TPP and similar managed trade treaties wrongly promoted as if it is free trade.  Protectionists also oppose it, albeit for different reasons.  But at least I can point to protective tariffs and say "that is not free trade" and not have uninformed morons tell me I'm wrong.  I can point to TPP and say "that is not free trade" and be correct, but the uninformed morons will tell me how wrong I am because they've been told that managed trade is free trade.

Oddly enough, many who oppose Trump should be happy he is scrapping TPP which they also oppose, but no good deed goes unpunished.

His 90 day travel ban, on people who are not US citizens coming to the US.  Based on a list of countries made by Obama and law signed by Obama.  Now again, I disagree with it, but I find it refreshingly honest as well.  The hysteria is that he's going to start rounding up US citizens who are Muslims an send them to concentration camps.  I believe in letting peaceful people cross borders freely, and that if we weren't bombing the shit out of so many countries we wouldn't have either this refugee problem or this terrorist problem.  But his 90 day travel ban isn't nearly as extreme as painted.

His wall with Mexico.  Now that's a tough one, there are many problems with it.  I like how he has been exploring ideas on how to pay for it, and actually listening to criticism on it.  He's walked back his proposal on a high tariff on Mexican imports.  I also like how Democrats who oppose it suddenly realized that all taxes are paid by the end consumer and how taxes discourage the activity taxed.  I hope they remember that next time they are in power and proposing more taxes on businesses and the rich.  They won't.  I think the wall is a joke, but then I would invite most of its opponents to examine what are Mexico's immigration and travel laws.

Sometimes, in my off moments when I forget my own principles, I think it would be fair if the US had a travel law for a country that reflected that country's own travel laws.  That would be ridiculously complicated, but the howls of anguish from the PC crowd would be beautiful as they oppose it but have a hard time articulating their opposition. "You can't treat Mexico the way Mexico treats others!"
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Diagnosis: TDS.

Similar to BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome).

The media is howling because they didn't get their chosen candidate elected like the last two occasion.

You are only allowed to see one side of the argument.
You are told not to visit web sites or read publications that are contrary to the main stream media, the "narrative".
You are told that they are "fake news", presented by kooks, conspirators, liars.
You are taught altered, sanitized history. Your culture is being destroyed.

I prefer to use the word "Trumpertantrum".
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You are told that they are "fake news", presented by kooks, conspirators, liars.

I have erased about 10 sentences trying to put into words how hilarious that you said that, in this context, is, and it only gets more hilarious the more I recall some of your posts.

A+ pr, A+. I actually exhaled quicker, something no simple post has ever done. I fucking salute you.
"Too curious flower, watching us pass, met death; Our hungry donkey." - Basho

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." - Mahatma Gandhi

Hopefully the worst effect of Trumpertarium will be felt in the parts of the U.S. that gave him the most votes.

If you ever watched Duck Dynasty you would understand how some parts of the country think this is their guy.
god is never early, but he is never late either... so true, so true; but I would rather have him show up late than to not show up at all. When was the last time god showed up for anything??? uh never

Oddly enough, many who oppose Trump should be happy he is scrapping TPP which they also oppose, but no good deed goes unpunished.
Have you watched Secular Talk lately?  The host is emphatically liberal but agreed with Trump there.  So it's not like liberals blindly oppose Trump's policies simply because Trump initiated them, although that seems to be exactly what happened with the Republicans when Obama was in charge.

Offline Hijiri Byakuren

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I'm stuck in an odd limbo area where I'm not sure if I should be crying in a corner or laughing hysterically. Been stuck there since the election ended, and I suspect I will continue to be there until these 4-8 years are over and done with.

Offline Munch

I'm stuck in an odd limbo area where I'm not sure if I should be crying in a corner or laughing hysterically. Been stuck there since the election ended, and I suspect I will continue to be there until these 4-8 years are over and done with.

just find other stuff dude. Can't base day to day life on an election vote, after the tony blair and bush days, I'm wondering if the uk will be made to work for trump in a fake war for oil again, but honestly I'm more concerned of what my nephews learning in school and finally watching every episode of avatar the last airbender on dvd at last.

theres always gonna be shit to deal with, best thing to accept shits always gonna be there, just learn to get past it.
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just find other stuff dude. Can't base day to day life on an election vote, after the tony blair and bush days, I'm wondering if the uk will be made to work for trump in a fake war for oil again, but honestly I'm more concerned of what my nephews learning in school and finally watching every episode of avatar the last airbender on dvd at last.

theres always gonna be shit to deal with, best thing to accept shits always gonna be there, just learn to get past it.
Sorry, I was trying to convey what I think when the subject of Trump comes up, not "the emotions that rule my life." The only real impact that Trump has had on my daily life is to give me something new to laugh/shake my head at.