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Started by SGOS, January 05, 2017, 10:18:42 AM

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Nonsensei

Quote from: Munch on January 09, 2017, 07:29:13 AM
Its not a hate crime, the guy was white!

Its not political motivated, they just mentioned trump by accident!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeO504QfMg&t=23s

I wish someone would burn down the TYT building, with Ana Kasparian inside.

I just watched the TYT video. Forgive me if I missed it, but at no point did they suggest this was not a hate crime. What they mainly focused on is the fact that these four perpetrators were not associated with BLM, despite the best efforts of right wing shitbags to tie the two together.

Theres no fucking universe in the multiverse in which it is just to burn down the building with Kasparian inside while Limbaugh is still drawing breath.
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you\'ll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Baruch

Dreamer posted a good definition.  The rest of the commentary is tied to SJW fantasy or KKK fantasy.  For SJWs the meta-commentary is this is proof that Trump is Satan.  For the KKK this is proof that Hillary is Satan.  In either case, bringing politics into this is a crime.  A small group of people committed a heinous crime, for whatever reason they pull out of their asses.  I would agree, connecting this to BLM is a leap of bigotry a KKK person would make.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Munch

Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 11, 2017, 06:04:19 AM

What do you think this is, Munch? You think this is the fucking UK and the British police that they are going to piss their pants to be called 'racists', if they discover that a black commited crime has organisational connections and they'll get scared to report it and shut up?

So far there is no organisational back ground to this. Now or after even the case closed, they won't do that IF there is a conection it is going to be declared.

I think TYT are full of shit and anyone who supports them doesn't recognize the cancer they spread.

You do love slagging off the uk though, might want to bring that up some time, since you seem to care more about it then you guesstimate I do.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

drunkenshoe

#18
Quote from: Munch on January 11, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
I think TYT are full of shit and anyone who supports them doesn't recognize the cancer they spread.

Said the bigot who cannot sit through a 15 mins video, but post a retarded rant made about it based on balatant lies as opposed to what is clearly expressed in the video itself, who cannot even give a response about it when his bullshit is pointed out, who lacks a tiny bit of salt or sincerity to own up to that bullshit, a hypocrite who bitches about freedom of speech in his safe space and express his anger by suggesting to burn down a building with someone in it.


QuoteYou do love slagging off the uk though, might want to bring that up some time, since you seem to care more about it then you guesstimate I do.

Oh yes, I do. Because most of the population is composed of people like you and the way you are trying to look down on the US or other western cultures around you is the hillarious part that gets more pathetic every day. I am just upset about the decent minority. I hope they'll get out OK and you'll drown in your own toxic racism and bigotry in a barbwired land of shit.


"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Baruch

My my, such a bad temper.  Too much hot sauce on your shish-kebab?

Of course Americans are inferior .. Britain has the Queen, we only have Hillary and Sarah Palin ;-(
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Munch

Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 12, 2017, 07:19:11 AM
Said the bigot who cannot sit through a 15 mins video, but post a retarded rant made about it based on balatant lies as opposed to what is clearly expressed in the video itself, who cannot even give a response about it when his bullshit is pointed out, who lacks a tiny bit of salt or sincerity to own up to that bullshit, a hypocrite who bitches about freedom of speech in his safe space and express his anger by suggesting to burn down a building with someone in it.


Oh yes, I do. Because most of the population is composed of people like you and the way you are trying to look down on the US or other western cultures around you is the hillarious part that gets more pathetic every day. I am just upset about the decent minority. I hope they'll get out OK and you'll drown in your own toxic racism and bigotry in a barbwired land of shit.

Yeah. I'm such a bigot. I hold a disdain for an entire country because of preconceived notions and equate the entire populous on fringe groups and bad politicans rather then thinking outside that box. I also only want to search white people on pornhub, and won't work alongside workmates who aren't white.

Serious for a moment now though, you love making blanket statements of a lot of us here, for anyone who might even remotely think outside your train of thought or opinion. Its funny how religous folks coming here who ranting nonsensical messages get booted but, yet the certain sjw mindsets are allowed to carry on, when i just looked at sjws in the same way i see religious screwballs.

I've never heard anyone accuse me for racism, bigotry, and extreme nationalism before, so must give you kudos for effort there, its creative to say the least.

I was going to talked about how ironic it is having someone from turkey calling me a racist and bigot (based on the country I'm from), given the kind of climate that exists there in regards to gay and transgendered people. I could say I hate turkey because its comprised of bigoted trans/homophobic people too, but thats stupid as fuck to hate an entire country because of those kinds of people.

Honestly, there's little point saying it, because thats just rising to the bate. You get angry at people here shoe because you want to, you don't rationalize, you just hate on anyone disagreeing with you or even having another opinion thats not yours.

Your an sjw and a troll shoe, sorry, though at least I can base that on evidence presented instead of rage filled blanket statements.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Munch

Quote from: Baruch on January 12, 2017, 07:23:56 AM
My my, such a bad temper.  Too much hot sauce on your shish-kebab?

Of course Americans are inferior .. Britain has the Queen, we only have Hillary and Sarah Palin ;-(

Oh I don't consider british superiority for much, I'm not my mother. britian going rogue wouldn't lead to much against the major world powers either.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

drunkenshoe

#22
Do you ever read the posts after you write them, Munch? It looks like you don't, because you put so many conflicting babbling in one place, I don't think you could follow it yourself.

Anything I wrote to you here is based on what you demonstrate yourself. You as a person with your posts and the politics demonstrated by your country which you openly support 100 %. I know you are not equipped to make the connection, but just try to flow some blood up and try to get that my position is completely opposite to the culture I live in. Yours IS NOT. It's the mainstream posionous bullshit. Who cares what you shoul -or anyone else for that matter- feel about turkey, couldn't care less.

Those bigotic piece of shits in Turkey are more honest with their own position than you. They are not pretending to be something else or trying to make it look like they are at the good side of something shit as you do. But you do share a trait with them, exactly like you they take a news piece or some sort of material and distort it for propaganda, doesn't matter how clear is.

You are no just a toxic bigot, you are blatant liar. You posted a deliberately distorted version of a video and bitched about a reaction asking perfectly normal questions of the claims you made. It's not just you don't have one reasonable explanation or an answer it is that you are so fucking full of shit, you cannot even own up to it or say something about it, but go with 'someone from turkey is criticising me with sjw mindset but but myeh myeh'.

By the way, your English is terrible. I am not talking about typos or common mistakes everyone makes, but the way you use your mother language. Makes me wonder, if you ever read an actual book in your life that wasn't a school assignment. That would explain a lot.


"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

drunkenshoe

#23
Oh hi, Hydra. Please stand behind his and your bullshit and make a post on how the TYT reporting is defending the racist black criminals, how is it saying that it is NOT politically motivated and that it is NOT a hate crime. Or just shut up with your usual passive agressive bronie stance. E: Sorry, brony.

Because I assume you can get that regardless of Munch's pathetic response, that was the subject and those questions were asked to him with a standard post, before he got severely butthurt.
"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

FaithIsFilth

Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 12, 2017, 07:19:11 AM
express his anger by suggesting to burn down a building with someone in it.
People are usually not being serious when they say something like that. I simply took it as another way of saying "Anna sucks".

The SJWs like to claim that blacks can't be racist, so I was mostly just making fun of that. I know TYT agreed that it's a hate crime. TYT also says that blacks can't be racist though, which is pretty damn funny. According to today's SJWs, a white person wears the wrong hairstyle or says they have black friends or says they don't see people as their colour but rather as a human being, and they are called racist. Blacks torture a mentally disabled guy while shouting f white people but that's not racism.

When it comes to BLM, yeah, they didn't order these blacks to do what they did, but the anti-white rhetoric probably plays at least some part in these physical attacks on white people by blacks. If the anti-white rhetoric wasn't so strong, there might be a few less attacks on whites. Blacks have a legitimate reason to be angry though. I'm not saying they don't, and when you have so many angry people, things like this are bound to happen. I want things to improve for blacks so they have less of a reason to be angry in the future.

drunkenshoe

#25
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on January 12, 2017, 02:28:23 PM
The SJWs like to claim that blacks can't be racist, so I was mostly just making fun of that. I know TYT agreed that it's a hate crime. TYT also says that blacks can't be racist though, which is pretty damn funny. According to today's SJWs, a white person wears the wrong hairstyle or says they have black friends or says they don't see people as their colour but rather as a human being, and they are called racist. Blacks torture a mentally disabled guy while shouting f white people but that's not racism.

When it comes to BLM, yeah, they didn't order these blacks to do what they did, but the anti-white rhetoric probably plays at least some part in these physical attacks on white people by blacks. If the anti-white rhetoric wasn't so strong, there might be a few less attacks on whites. Blacks have a legitimate reason to be angry though. I'm not saying they don't, and when you have so many angry people, things like this are bound to happen. I want things to improve for blacks so they have less of a reason to be angry in the future.

Oh not this bullshit again. I haven't asked your on opinion on sjws, I could care less. I have asked you where and how in that video anyone is saying this is not a hate crime, that it is not politically motivated while defending the racist criminals.

We are talking about a report on a specific crime and a toxic video deliberately made to distort that report.

Now, BLM didn't order them to attack, but it is the anti-white rhetoric, eh? What Munch doing and contributing is as disgusting as what you describe there, but more sneaky and dangerous, because it cannot be tracked, it is collective and constantly perpetuated. We can track BLM material. You know why? Because people either follow the specific, offical material on an activist group or not. It's their decision. What Munch is doing, like the piece of shit made that video is spreading, sneaking up with something that is not said, not done or even claimed on to people in an irrelevant context. Jerking off on fucking people up and pretending to be a victim of some marketed, inflated bullshit, he wouldn't actually recognise if it exploded on his face.

So how about getting off on spreading toxic blatant lies rhetoric, if you are so concerned about influencing people that is. These things are collective acts. When you choose to contribute to it, you are in the same boat with what you are pitching with some anti-white rhetoric influincing people for racist violence. Does that make any sense to you or has it suddenly become obscure? There are countless Munchs out there posting the same shit over and over again, selling it around, imposing here and there and buying it back for themselves and then start to spread again.

QuotePeople are usually not being serious when they say something like that. I simply took it as another way of saying "Anna sucks".

No shit. It's interesting that he seems to think that only applies to him. Esp. when his target is some sort of a female in front of a camera, speaking out loud. From a random celebrity defending refugees to Anna Kasparian. Not to mention that he constantly bitches and bitches about his 'freedom of speech' being oppressed by sjws, muslims, feminists, leftist, liberals, multiculturalists, cultural marxists this and that; insert some random group here while he is offering that someone who doesn't agree with him on some open lie should be 'accused' with 'having a sjw mindset' -which I don't but, what the fuck even if I had- and he offers that she should be banned. He is so fucked up, he thinks if someone is a sjw, he/she should be banned from the forum. AGAIN, this man and everyone like him here in this forum is crying about 'safe spaces'. Are you following?

"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Nonsensei

Quote from: Munch on January 12, 2017, 08:11:30 AM
Yeah. I'm such a bigot. I hold a disdain for an entire country because of preconceived notions and equate the entire populous on fringe groups and bad politicans rather then thinking outside that box. I also only want to search white people on pornhub, and won't work alongside workmates who aren't white.

Serious for a moment now though, you love making blanket statements of a lot of us here, for anyone who might even remotely think outside your train of thought or opinion. Its funny how religous folks coming here who ranting nonsensical messages get booted but, yet the certain sjw mindsets are allowed to carry on, when i just looked at sjws in the same way i see religious screwballs.

I've never heard anyone accuse me for racism, bigotry, and extreme nationalism before, so must give you kudos for effort there, its creative to say the least.

I was going to talked about how ironic it is having someone from turkey calling me a racist and bigot (based on the country I'm from), given the kind of climate that exists there in regards to gay and transgendered people. I could say I hate turkey because its comprised of bigoted trans/homophobic people too, but thats stupid as fuck to hate an entire country because of those kinds of people.

Honestly, there's little point saying it, because thats just rising to the bate. You get angry at people here shoe because you want to, you don't rationalize, you just hate on anyone disagreeing with you or even having another opinion thats not yours.

Your an sjw and a troll shoe, sorry, though at least I can base that on evidence presented instead of rage filled blanket statements.

Yeah nope. Your attempt to set someone you don't like up for a banning has been detected. Better luck next time. Just because you say shes a troll doesn't make her one. Vehemently disagreeing with you and not being gentle about it doesn't make her a troll either. Grow a backbone.

Just for reference, a troll is someone who knowlingly expresses an opinion they don't really hold in the hopes of stirring shit up. Thats not what is happening here. Whats happening here is she is tired of your shit.

Its no fucking wonder too. Everyone keeps spewing that shes an SJW. I know her. She isn't one. Its just that some people on this forum are soooooooo fucking far in the opposite direction of an SJW that the crazy shit you say offers no alternative but to post stuff that sounds like SJW stuff. But it isn't SJW stuff. Its common fucking sense. Add to that the sense of infallibility a lot of you people have and it becomes a recipe for an incredibly frustrated forum member who is part of a rapidly diminishing minority of posters who aren't some sort of counter-culture snobs and closet bigots who have let youtube hate mongers shape their opinions.

I'll put it simply. Every time she posts, its not you putting up with her shit, its her putting up with yours. You just don't realize it because this forum has gradually become an echo chamber for socially right leaning people over the last few years.

Ever notice how few women post here anymore? Back in 2012 and earlier it was nearly 50/50. Wonder why.
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you\'ll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Atheon

Quote from: SGOS on January 05, 2017, 10:18:42 AMI thought it was interesting that the police aren't sure whether they can classify it as a hate crime.  The legal definition of "hate crime" has always perplexed me.  A crime is a crime.  Why is it necessary to qualify it legally as whether it was motivated by hate.  Actually, I think "hate" crime intends to imply "race" crime, but it's got so confusing that even the cops don't seem to know what it is.
Motive is a very important factor in court cases.

A hate crime is more than just a crime against a person; it involves a threat against an entire category of people.

And it's not just race. The killing of Matthew Sheppard (sp?) was a hate crime based on sexual orientation. It can be against any arbitrary category of person.

Also, hate crimes are bidirectional: a gang gays singling out a straight person for attack based solely on his straightness would be committing a hate crime.
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Hakurei Reimu

Quote from: Nonsensei on January 12, 2017, 06:17:39 PM
Its no fucking wonder too. Everyone keeps spewing that shes an SJW. I know her. She isn't one. Its just that some people on this forum are soooooooo fucking far in the opposite direction of an SJW that the crazy shit you say offers no alternative but to post stuff that sounds like SJW stuff. But it isn't SJW stuff. Its common fucking sense.
Yes. "Common sense." You know what's also common sense?

Lowering taxes causes job growth.
Life and the universe are too complicated to arise naturally.
The free market will always optimally distribute goods fairly.
From every worker according to their capabilities; to each worker according to their needs.
The earth is flat.
The sun goes around the earth.
Vital force.
It snows, therefore global warming is bullshit.
Contrails are laden with chemicals.
Organic foods are healtheir for you than conventional foods.
Statistics is easy.
Mexicans are stealing our jobs.
Fire can't collapse steel buildings.
Firewalkers must be using magic to walk on hot coals.
Diseases are caused by bad smells.
The pyramids could not have been built by the Egyptians.
Out of place objects are proof of the Atlantis civilization.

God.

All of the above have been touted as "common sense." However, we know all of these really don't hold up under close scrutiny. Common sense is nice and all, but it's by no means a reliable way of deciding truth. Testing and verification needs to be done on all claims, and the more untested a claim the more it needs to be tested.

Most of shoe's claims are like the above. They sound compelling only if you don't examine them closely; once you do, they fall apart pretty quickly. I've known this for several years now, and whenever I have confronted shoe on what I think are errors in her reasoning the conversation invariably turns to accusations on her part that I'm a repulsive individual and stupid besides. I don't put up with that, so of course I return in kind. Last year I made one last attempt to see if I could have a constructive discussion with shoe and tried my best to keep it civil, never insulting her, yet the same pattern played out. She's now on my ignore list because, quite frankly, I'm not going to repeat that experience ever again.

Quote from: Nonsensei on January 12, 2017, 06:17:39 PM
I'll put it simply. Every time she posts, its not you putting up with her shit, its her putting up with yours. You just don't realize it because this forum has gradually become an echo chamber for socially right leaning people over the last few years.
Everything is relative. At work I'm known as the loony leftist, but I guess here I'm the bigot from the right lagoon.

Quote from: Nonsensei on January 12, 2017, 06:17:39 PM
Ever notice how few women post here anymore? Back in 2012 and earlier it was nearly 50/50. Wonder why.
Nearly 50/50? I don't think it has ever been that high. It's always been kind of a sausagefest in this place. Back in 2012, I could count the regular female posters on one hand. Maybe two. There have been plenty more posters that are male, even back in 2012.
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drunkenshoe

Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 12, 2017, 09:52:16 PM
Yes. "Common sense." You know what's also common sense?

No, common sense applied here is very simple. It's is not to post toxic, false material on some topic and if you do, at least trying to stand behind your opinion in doing it.

This is not about some given argument or some offered opinion and not being able to agree on it. This is not something to be tested.

So making a random list of common sense ongeneral understanding of certain thing is not refuting or testing anything.

QuoteMost of shoe's claims are like the above. They sound compelling only if you don't examine them closely; once you do, they fall apart pretty quickly.

Shoe is talking about what she thinks on a given material. She is not making threads and offering home cook ideas or arguments to sell. When she posts something with one claim she follows and posts another thing that conflicts or refutes it into the same thread. She is merely writing, at that time what teh given material makes her think.

Because she is aware that's how an internet forum works. You don't get to 'refute' something here or make a 'claim' that will be discussed in some way that will change somebody's idea, but you can ask questions or expect them to follow basic rules.

Contrary to your common belief, she knows that you don't make debates here to accomplish something. Oh of course you can, but they are for regulars and people with already at the same place with you and want to support you for someone they don't like. Like what you are exactly doing with this post about Shoe.

QuoteI've known this for several years now, and whenever I have confronted shoe on what I think are errors in her reasoning the conversation invariably turns to accusations on her part that I'm a repulsive individual and stupid besides. I don't put up with that, so of course I return in kind. Last year I made one last attempt to see if I could have a constructive discussion with shoe and tried my best to keep it civil, never insulting her, yet the same pattern played out. She's now on my ignore list because, quite frankly, I'm not going to repeat that experience ever again.

She told you that you are unable to have a conversation, because you see the person as an opponent to defeat, doesn't matter what the topic is, even when without an actual claim being made. She told you were insincere, cold and unapproachable, operating from the idea that your the most intelligent person in a given crowd. Shoe doesn't even have a problem with being talked at, lectured at when she doesn't know something, actually she enjoys it and listens like a stunned kitten to get it. But then she doesn't jump on to something she doesn't have something to say or know about in any way.

But she is annoying isn't she? She keeps posting all around, she is loud, uncouth, agressive. So you need to shit on her. Shit away.

She was translating a series of good research on socio-linguistics and as she had to read a lot of things as you may guess and she made a thread about various opinions discussed on it in academic level, because it astonished her how far did it go. All you did was blaming Shoe with linguistic determinism while she kept saying that she is trying to have an conversation and not a debate because clearly neither you, nor Shoe has the facility to offer a conclusion on linguistics or socio-linguistics or where the paradigm of social science is going. All they can do is to have a conversation about it. She wanted to send you two PDFs, you cannot post certain material you buy on public forums, it is illegal. After realising that you blocked her she dropped it. But that is 'I confronted Shoe'.

She also doesn't understand why would you get into a 'debate' with someone you blocked so happily then, OR now why do you get out of your way and write something about her, but definitely not about the subject here, but about her. See, this is very simple, Hakurei. "I don't like this woman, who cares what is going on, soomebody is defending her and I want to shit on her too. Weeee" Don't tell me not to put words on your mouth.

Other ones were about your own displays of 'common sense', mainstream following of a certain group; gender and age, I assume you are you are young, on specific events and issues. FYI, pointing out someone is young and that makes a difference in their outlook is not an insult, nor it is promoting the elder opinion. It's given for description of a frame of mind here.

One was about her claim on rape crimes associated with football players and athelets in American culture. She said there were too many examples and it looked like a pattern happened under certain circumstances you said there wasn't. This was your idea. There isn't, shut up. It's not a confrontation. A good example of common sense too. A foreign woman is saying American culture is bad and she is from a muslim country, fuck that.

One was about the rape accusation against Micheal Shermer. Her point was that denying and supporting whatever has happened is equally stupid under this circumstances and you guys here just supported a team as usual. Example of common sense: A group of feminist women falsely accused a scientist, because he is a man and they are of course feminists and they are trying to ruin him. Because that is what feminists do. Common sense. Most rape accusations are likley to be false, esp. coming from women in certain groups. Common sense. It would be good if one of his friends actually defended Shermer or if Randi didn't say those things. But hey, common sense. He is a famous atheist, scientist. If a rape victim doesn't have bruises or if she-he didn't report the crime just after it, it is a false accusation. Common sense. In any case, there was a lot to carry on with that topic but all you did was screaming they do nothave any evidence when noone even claimed he should be convicted without it.

One was about Rebbeca Watson, Shoe's point was who she is or what she did or say really didn't matter, because most people in the world in that position would react exactly the same in real life. You know what was your position? That she is a cunt telling men what to do and she deserved to get all the thtreats she had. Common sense. You also told a story from your personal life that you sat down with a dangerous -Japanese- group in that conversation against that idea: there are very strict simple ways people act in real life and doesn't matter whatever they might defend in an internet forum, that's not what they do when it comes down to it. And yes I can make generalisation. Human behaviour is simple, exceptions do not hold any shit.

There was one about army rape epidemic in the US. Which you 'discussed' that it didn't exist. Rape in army under the nose of officials who are trained to protect people, can't be. Common sense. You also had the same 'discussion' with TomFoolery who is a veteran by the way and she wasn't even being agressive about anything untill you started to attack her, you accused her with same usual bullshit, displayed same approach you have on the topic. Because you know, Common Sense. Right now army rape epidemic is a much open ground and the picture gets worse and worse as more people decide to speak.

Your reaction on this specific topic of gender issues is based on your description of common sense and common place opinions. And while it can be discussed, carried on with a conversation with everyone, you can never do it, because it is coming from being included in a group. You can't have a conversation about any of it. You cannot tolerate it. There is some hyoed up black and white end for you.

QuoteEverything is relative.

No. For example if something is written as ABCDE or pronounced as ABCDE in an original source, if I see someone is deliberately pushing/imposing that it is EDCBA I will say, "No, it is not. Explain yourself." This is the situation here with Munch, almost always with pr126, Baruch and a few others most of the time. There is not even an opinion presented, but just posting unwarranted constant toxic, emotionally abusing material. Yes that is putting up with bullshit if you post this forum often as I do. I am putting up with them.

QuoteAt work I'm known as the loony leftist, but I guess here I'm the bigot from the right lagoon.

When it comes to interacting with American individuals, experience points out that as most of the concepts are turned upside down or bastardised, it is safe to judge their opinions according to clear statements they make and in time according to the consistency of those and repetition that could be looked on as some sort of pattern, the picture they paint, rather than what they say they are. Shoe also knows this from the culture she lives in; same bullshit. Considerng the general political circumstances and their recent results in America, clearly it doesn't matter much either. Republican, Democrat...whatever. So it is not a reference point. 

QuoteNearly 50/50? I don't think it has ever been that high. It's always been kind of a sausagefest in this place. Back in 2012, I could count the regular female posters on one hand. Maybe two. There have been plenty more posters that are male, even back in 2012.

But a sausage fest of an atheist forum fits common sense, doesn't it? That's the usual norm. There is nothing wrong with this forum's general reaction to female posters, they are scarce, because they always are, always been. Common sense. On the other hand, they'd be sweethearts provided they should learn how to use the board; provided they don't post certain material or disagree with a certain understanding that makes the common sense of this forum.

So, yes never that high, but there have been a lot and they kept leaving. The forum is agressive against female posters and in return if a female poster wants to post here they need to be agressive about it. And when they are agressive, that's a bigger offence. Posters here always get as agressive as Shoe, but it pokes in the eye when she does that. If you constantly tell someone they are this and that in every thing they post they make instead of what is in the post, eventually that is what everyone sees.  And it is never the situation or what she says, but what she is. When she disagrees with something, the answer is about her. But yeah, considering she annoys a lot of people, common sense tell us that this must about her.

People's impression about Shoe is built on criticising America and American culture, international American politics. Because 7 years ago, saying what has become normal to say in this forum today was enough to make someone out of this culture a 'villain'. Yeah this is what you were then. ALL of you, without any exception. What she was talking about then is common place now. This is also your first impression. Interestingly enough, you even told her -several times, for specific posts- that she wasn't listened because the way she wrote. Remember that? Well that is about how a female poster 'should' use this forum if she wants to talk about a series of subjects or just shouldn't do at all.

You know what Hakurei, you are intellligent and I always read your posts when it comes to certain fields, obviously you enjoy and know about them. But you are a typical part of the same mainstream flow when it comes down to hyped up, inflated, toxic bullshit part of American culture that is painfully ignorant, destructive that cannot tolerate anything; defines compromise and tolerance as defeat and treat everything as it is something unique to itself. Special. And if you don't agree and support that you are the enemy. :lol: If you are not an apple, you must a banana.


Well, I am not going to apologise for annoying you or others in this forum or for being agressive, there is a reason for it and it is natural one. I don't give a fuck if you can get my situation; or wether it is not something I chose or not. Yeah I am an ass, so are you, get over it. I know you have certain ways of seeing people as 'we', 'you' or 'them', but all of us are just a bunch of ordinary people, and you should nail into your head that includes you.


"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp