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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2017, 04:25:06 PM »
Deleuze's Eternal Problem: Difference and Repetition
https://entropymag.org/deleuzes-eternal-problem-difference-and-repetition/

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2017, 06:00:54 PM »
This seamless crystal chromosphere which long outshines the sun,
Will cure me of mortality, my final goal is won.
(Wu Yun, Cantos on Pacing the Void, T'ang Dynasty [pronounced "tarng"])

Not surprisingly, Haegglund's Radical Atheism finds the concept of eternity as well as presence, problematic.

Markova on Time

'No drugoe ponimanie razvitiia nauki, gde potok vremenie perestaet byt' nepreryvnoi i bessperevoinoi, avansy.
But another understanding of the development of science, where the flow of time ceases to be continuous and uninterrupted, advances.'

Togda osozanie vremeni ne dolzhno byt' kak strolka.
Then the comprehension of time must not be an arrow.'
(The Beginning in Science and Humanity)

Time is a problem, and I don't have time right now to explain that ;-)
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2017, 06:02:13 PM »
One of the wondrous things about thinking about the universe, is the unknown question of if the universe is either infinite, or finite. If it is finite, where does it end, and how can such a thing be explained. And likewise, if it is infinite, how can we wrap our minds around the concept of actual infinity.

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Some say Cantor, Boltzman and Goedel went insane thinking about infinity.
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2017, 06:03:26 PM »
Deleuze's Eternal Problem: Difference and Repetition
https://entropymag.org/deleuzes-eternal-problem-difference-and-repetition/

Difference and identity ... identity is a problem, even before we compare two things we claim to be different.

You don't know who you are, unless you know who I am.  Until then you won't know who I am either.  But the Upanishads does deal with this.
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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2017, 06:05:05 PM »

Some say Cantor, Boltzman and Goedel went insane thinking about infinity.
Well, did they go insane because they thought about infinity, or did they think about infinity because they were insane?
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"It is not God that is worshipped but the group or authority that claims to speak in His name. Sin becomes disobedience to authority not violation of integrity."
Radhakrishnan, Sir Sarvepalli

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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2017, 06:06:53 PM »
Well, did they go insane because they thought about infinity, or did they think about infinity because they were insane?

Strict mathematical constructivists ... don't believe in infinity.  So they probably sleep well at night.
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Offline doorknob

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2017, 06:14:02 PM »
if I had an eternity I'd spend it doing what I'm doing tonight which is learning as much as I can. I'm slow to catch on to things but once I get there I'm fine.

I don't know if I'd get bored of eternity but there is a whole universe to explore.

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2017, 06:29:08 PM »
Upanishads, and Deleuze as well: "If you get trapped in the dreams of the Other, you're f***ed." We would roll with Artaud before we did the mathematicians: "My lucid unreason is not afraid of chaos." (Manifesto in Clear Language)

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2017, 07:34:14 PM »
Upanishads, and Deleuze as well: "If you get trapped in the dreams of the Other, you're f***ed." We would roll with Artaud before we did the mathematicians: "My lucid unreason is not afraid of chaos." (Manifesto in Clear Language)

I get it, Artaud = theater.  All the world is a stage, and we are merely bit players.  His title Theater of Cruelty is exactly how I would describe my theology.  Must have been a genius ;-)
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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2017, 08:53:15 PM »
We suggest that the theologies of eternity be compared with Haegglund's Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life. If that does'nt mutate one's semiotics of eternity, there are other machines that can and should.

"So many ego-deaths, such little time.'
(Gumby Does the Mississippi)

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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2017, 09:12:22 PM »
We suggest that the theologies of eternity be compared with Haegglund's Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life. If that does'nt mutate one's semiotics of eternity, there are other machines that can and should.

"So many ego-deaths, such little time.'
(Gumby Does the Mississippi)

Pokey was the one with his hoof up Gumby's back.  Just like Mr Ed vs Wilbur.
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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2017, 09:29:46 PM »
In India, there is a river deity that supposedly rides a porpoise. Freud's Id can be compared to the ide (see www.) of the Udihe (Primorskye Krai, Russian Far East). It is the first fish of spring, as Persephone awakens there.

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2017, 10:42:26 PM »
Yes, close, very close. The Red-Lipped Asp, or Ide, Leusciscus species, also found in the Syr Darya region. Not exactly Pokey's hoof target, but close. Nostradamus predicts Hitler's name, again close: a German river fish locally known as a 'nase.'

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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2017, 12:34:13 AM »
One of the wondrous things about thinking about the universe, is the unknown question of if the universe is either infinite, or finite. If it is finite, where does it end, and how can such a thing be explained. And likewise, if it is infinite, how can we wrap our minds around the concept of actual infinity.

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Posting just to get that annoying graphic off the screen...
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Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2017, 06:54:05 AM »
Posting just to get that annoying graphic of the screen...

You are grumpy today.  Hope things get better for you.
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