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Offline Baruch (OP)

Best description of eternity ever ....
« on: December 29, 2016, 09:29:38 PM »
The Martian Chronicles ...
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Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 07:45:21 AM »
A good description of eternity?
Well I could go on, and on...
E = Mc²

In the end, we are all standing in the dark,
trying to figure out why we are here.
But let us not choose one direction
without proof of where it is headed.

Check your pocket for matches
so we can observe and learn together
as fast friends and relative idiots.

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2016, 01:15:29 PM »
A good description of eternity?
Well I could go on, and on...

Haha ... but eternity isn't about interminable boredom.  It has to do with getting off the clock (treadmill) and enjoying life for its simple pleasures.  7th day in Genesis, aka Shabbat.
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Offline Atheon

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2016, 02:02:27 PM »
Well, we know the Martian isn't a Republican.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2016, 02:21:40 PM »
OK, so who is "the sovereign of our universe"?
God Not Found
"FRAUD. The life of commerce, the soul of religion, the bait of courtship, and the basis of political power."
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Offline SGOS

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2016, 03:30:16 PM »
OK, so who is "the sovereign of our universe"?

I wondered about that one too.

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2016, 03:51:39 PM »
Maybe this guy?




God Not Found
"FRAUD. The life of commerce, the soul of religion, the bait of courtship, and the basis of political power."
Ambrose Bierce

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2016, 08:33:12 PM »
Well, we know the Martian isn't a Republican.

In the story line, the humans on Earth had exterminated themselves.  I believe as you define it ... evil = conservative, and destroying yourself is pretty evil, so it must have been conservatives who did it, right?
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Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2016, 08:35:02 PM »
OK, so who is "the sovereign of our universe"?

Must be frustrating where there is scifi, where advanced beings, aren't all atheists ;-)  Certainly Star Wars isn't atheist.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2017, 07:11:11 AM »
Must be frustrating where there is scifi, where advanced beings, aren't all atheists ;-)  Certainly Star Wars isn't atheist.

Star Wars is fiction (the willing suspension of disbelief).  And I don't recall Star Wars mentioning a deity.

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2017, 08:16:31 AM »
Star Wars is fiction (the willing suspension of disbelief).  And I don't recall Star Wars mentioning a deity.

Not sure on THE specifics, but THE Jedi and Sith practice a religion by revering 'THE force'.
E = Mc²

In the end, we are all standing in the dark,
trying to figure out why we are here.
But let us not choose one direction
without proof of where it is headed.

Check your pocket for matches
so we can observe and learn together
as fast friends and relative idiots.

Offline Baruch (OP)

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2017, 11:09:53 AM »
Not sure on THE specifics, but THE Jedi and Sith practice a religion by revering 'THE force'.

Yes, it is all rather E-Asian ... until in another movie they deviated from canon and started mentioning "midichlorians".

Some people don't count some E-Asian religions as theistic.
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Offline Hakurei Reimu

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2017, 05:25:28 PM »
Because Asian religions have things that are kinda like deities, and kinda not, where they exist at all. "Animism" tends to be a closer description than "theism."
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Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2017, 03:30:23 PM »
This seamless crystal chromosphere which long outshines the sun,
Will cure me of mortality, my final goal is won.
(Wu Yun, Cantos on Pacing the Void, T'ang Dynasty [pronounced "tarng"])

Not surprisingly, Haegglund's Radical Atheism finds the concept of eternity as well as presence, problematic.

Markova on Time

'No drugoe ponimanie razvitiia nauki, gde potok vremenie perestaet byt' nepreryvnoi i bessperevoinoi, avansy.
But another understanding of the development of science, where the flow of time ceases to be continuous and uninterrupted, advances.'

Togda osozanie vremeni ne dolzhno byt' kak strolka.
Then the comprehension of time must not be an arrow.'
(The Beginning in Science and Humanity)

Online Munch

Re: Best description of eternity ever ....
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2017, 03:57:10 PM »
One of the wondrous things about thinking about the universe, is the unknown question of if the universe is either infinite, or finite. If it is finite, where does it end, and how can such a thing be explained. And likewise, if it is infinite, how can we wrap our minds around the concept of actual infinity.

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