why does the usa hate fidel

[Jannabear]

why do us citizens hate fidel castro, he was a man who fought against a fascist government, significantly raised the living standards of cuba, and made one of the only ecologically sustainable developed countries on the planet.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

For every list of positives for ANYBODY there is a list of negatives. Sounds like you haven't looked at those.

[Shiranu]

I say this as a semi-Fidel fan... the man had some terrible crimes against humanity committed in his name. Was he better than the U.S. backed dictator Batista? Absolutely... and a large part of the suffering of the Cuban people came from America's embargo rather than Castro's policy. But that doesn't absolve him of his crimes.

[Baruch]

The US government has been in bed with the Mafia since WW II.  Havana gambling was under Mob control before Castro.  Castro shut down gambling and organized crime.  Of course, this wasn't free.  This is why America hated Castro ... because this happened before there was Atlantic City or Indian Casinos ... just Las Vegas existed (and some horse race betting).

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I say this as a semi-Fidel fan... the man had some terrible crimes against humanity committed in his name. Was he better than the U.S. backed dictator Batista? Absolutely... and a large part of the suffering of the Cuban people came from America's embargo rather than Castro's policy. But that doesn't absolve him of his crimes.

Clarify for me as to why not trading with a country causes that country suffering?

[Shiranu]

Clarify for me as to why not trading with a country causes that country suffering?

https://www.cato.org/publications/speeches/four-decades-failure-us-embargo-against-cuba

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maurice-jourdane/effect-of-cuban-embargo_b_7201274.html

It drove the price of necessities up... cut off a huge source of Cuba's foreign aide off... completely ended trade relations with it's biggest trade partner. It would be like China just said one day "We no longer like you so all our trade is now cut off.". The economic effect on the U.S. would be disastrous.

Crashing a countries' economy is a surefire way to cause the suffering of a group of people.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I guess we should have traded with a country that was inimical to our body politic? Japan in 1941, perhaps, or Nazi Germany?

[SGOS]

In Mexico, I met a guy from Cuba.  He never said specifically whether Castro was good or bad, but all of his stories about the things Castro did were about how he helped "the people."  I'll guess he was pro-Castro.  Some people liked Castro.  In the US we get the impression that everyone hated him.  I don't think that's true for all Cubans.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

In Mexico, I met a guy from Cuba.  He never said specifically whether Castro was good or bad, but all of his stories about the things Castro did were about how he helped "the people."  I'll guess he was pro-Castro.  Some people liked Castro.  In the US we get the impression that everyone hated him.  I don't think that's true for all Cubans.

I don't think he was universally hated or loved, of course. People referred to Joseph Dzugashvili as "The Great Stalin" and appealed to him to "correct the mistake" that sent their family members to the gulags, when he himself signed the orders. Controlling the media had a lot to do with that.

[Hydra009]

Let's just say that I consider it important for a "President" to have to run for re-election.

[Jannabear]

Let's just say that I consider it important for a "President" to have to run for re-election.

I wasn't really referring to this aspect of cuba
also the united states has no place to argue democracy, we live under a corporate oligarchy that has backed fascist governments.

[Jannabear]

For every list of positives for ANYBODY there is a list of negatives. Sounds like you haven't looked at those.

far more positives then the us and far less negatives

[Gawdzilla Sama]

far more positives then the us and far less negatives

Your opinion is noted.

[Hydra009]

I wasn't really referring to this aspect of cuba

So...you're asking (in kind of a disingenuous way) what people have against Castro and you don't think it's relevant that he was a dictator for life?

[Jannabear]

So...you're asking (in kind of a disingenuous way) what people have against Castro and you don't think it's relevant that he was a dictator for life?

corporate oligarchy, dictator trying to fight imperialism
I'm not for a dictatorship of any kind, I'm a libsoc
but come on
there's a clear choice here of which is preferable.