Author Topic: Are we doomed?  (Read 3920 times)

Offline reasonist (OP)

Are we doomed?
« on: December 23, 2016, 08:58:06 AM »
It seems we cannot learn from history...are we doomed as a species, because of our tribal instincts?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/camillo-zacchia-phd/identity-politics_b_13744352.html

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Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2016, 09:28:01 AM »
On a long enough timeline, we're all doomed.
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Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2016, 10:47:30 AM »
On a long enough timeline, we're all doomed.
That's why I converted to kaiju.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2016, 01:02:28 PM »
It seems we cannot learn from history...are we doomed as a species, because of our tribal instincts?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/camillo-zacchia-phd/identity-politics_b_13744352.html

Says George Soros.  We can have multiple tribes, we just need to not kill each other over it.  But not of the same tribe per Caligula, who wanted all humanity to share one neck, so he could slash it's throat.  George Soros has a history as a throat slasher.

Doomed = the socialist panacea de sure will not bring on utopia?  Doomed for sure.

Doomed = humanity is simply too stupid and too violent?  Not doomed ... life will be harder for the new generation, but every day I work with members of the new generation, I still have hope, even if I don't see change.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2016, 01:04:47 PM by Baruch »
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Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2016, 02:14:26 PM »
"de sure"?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 04:04:35 PM »
Certain subsects of society would certainly want you to believe so. I don't particularly buy it.
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Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2016, 04:13:50 PM »
Not doomed, just an especially unstable beta version.

Offline reasonist (OP)

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2016, 07:02:06 PM »
Unstable for sure. I could never understand that 'us vs. them' mentality. The East vs. West, White vs. Black, Muslims vs. Christians a.s.o. We will be extinct like 99% of all species before us, but will it be of our own making? Because of stupid labeling and focusing what separates us instead what unites us, we are in real danger of ending our existence way before nature would end it anyway. The ignorance about Global warming within the new administration and the renewed arms race won't improve our odds either. It's like a slow motion auto destruct movie right in front of our eyes.
I am not a doomsday sayer but reading and watching the news makes me feel very uneasy about our future.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities
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Offline Baruch

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2016, 07:13:17 PM »
Every day you don't die ... is a miracle.  Get used to that.

The Obama 2016 budget has the increase for nuclear deterrence overhaul ... Trump is just agreeing with it.  Obama is no pacifist.

We do have things in common, but consistency isn't it.  We have inconsistency in common, within and between each other.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2016, 07:14:35 PM »
Not doomed, just an especially unstable beta version.

So Microsoft was in charge of G-d's creative work?  Perpetual beta ... that explains a lot.  Too bad at some point, a giant "error 404" will shoot across the sky, and we will all disappear.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2016, 07:15:59 PM »
"de sure"?

Latin "more definite tense" that de jure ;-)  As in soup, not as in law.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2016, 07:16:36 PM »
Certain subsects of society would certainly want you to believe so. I don't particularly buy it.

Capitalist survivalists selling tin foil hats ;-)
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Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2016, 06:38:32 AM »
Latin "more definite tense" that de jure ;-)  As in soup, not as in law.
And people wonder if the aliens are here yet.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Baruch

Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2016, 08:48:48 AM »
And people wonder if the aliens are here yet.

We Greco-Romans don't call people aliens, we call them barbarians ;-)
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 01:45:36 PM by Baruch »
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Re: Are we doomed?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2016, 09:29:13 AM »
We Greco-Romans don't call people aliens, we call the barbarians ;-)
"Ba-ba-ba-ba...."
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers