Author Topic: Jesus' Origin Story  (Read 4337 times)

Re: Jesus' Origin Story
« Reply #285 on: April 15, 2017, 09:05:22 AM »
John 10:18 No one takes it (my life) from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

And most think he only used that power once....*shrugs*
Considering 'he' is a fiction, I would imagine he can come and go as he pleases--or as often as 'his' fans write that into the script.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: Jesus' Origin Story
« Reply #286 on: April 17, 2017, 03:19:47 AM »
I allow that the bible states many important ways of people living together well.  But the "living together well" came first and the bible simply codified that.  Humans have been homo sapiens for about 200,000 years and learned how to live together all that time before the bible.  That some ancient nomadic tribe consolidated a few vague legends (a flood, a few battles, a time of slavery) means very little in the course of human history (as brief as THAT is).

There is nothing in the bible that is not taken from other older cultures, and little advice that wasn't already understood in the cultures that surrounded them.  Seriously, do you think think it was a revelation that one should respect the elders and not steal from neighbors? 

The bible is only the first written record of standard inter-human practices by a small tribe of nomads who met a lot of other peoples and caught on to writing at the right time.

I do admire them for that, BTW.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead

Offline Baruch

Re: Jesus' Origin Story
« Reply #287 on: April 17, 2017, 12:34:51 PM »
Yep ... 190,000 years without agriculture .. and then it all goes to hell.  Hunter/gatherer heaven aka Garden of Eden.