What I like about Islam ...

[Atheon]

Neither did I, but the Cultural Marxists would tell you that a vote for anyone other than Hillary, was a vote for Trump.  I can only hope they will end up like Fidel.

Actually, a mathematician will tell you that a vote for anyone other than Hillary was a vote for Trump. And the numbers showing Stein votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania numbering greater than Trump's margin prove this point. 

No idea what a "cultural Marxist" is. Sounds like a bogus term to me.

[Cavebear]

Actually, a mathematician will tell you that a vote for anyone other than Hillary was a vote for Trump. And the numbers showing Stein votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania numbering greater than Trump's margin prove this point. 

No idea what a "cultural Marxist" is. Sounds like a bogus term to me.

Some 3rd party voters would have gone to Trump, or not voted.  But I agree that without the 3rd parties in this and 2000 it would have resulted in a Democratic President.

[pr126]

Atheon wrote:

No idea what a "cultural Marxist" is. Sounds like a bogus term to me.

You are living it. It's called reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdbSP_Ramvs

[Shiranu]

Actually, a mathematician will tell you that a vote for anyone other than Hillary was a vote for Trump. And the numbers showing Stein votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania numbering greater than Trump's margin prove this point. 

No idea what a "cultural Marxist" is. Sounds like a bogus term to me.

"Cultural Marxist" are the liberal intelligentsia corrupting our youth into believing all the terrible things our youth learn in college.

Just saying "Communist" or "Marxist" professors are corrupting our youth fell out of favour, but we gotta keep that good ol' cold war mindset alive, so they are now "Cultural Marxists". Same shit, different name. It's the fear that our kids might actually learn something in university that we disagree with and thus the intelligentsia establishment is out to destroy our society.


Edit: Actually, from the first 10 minutes or so of his video... "Secularism is really gaining influence in our universities, and in Holywood..." saying some old white guy who looks alot like Pat Robinson (I didn't see a name, so maybe that is him?). So I guess I forgot something, it's SECULAR Communist Liberal Marxists taking over our colleges. Terrible stuff.

[Cavebear]

"Cultural Marxist" are the liberal intelligentsia corrupting our youth into believing all the terrible things our youth learn in college.

Just saying "Communist" or "Marxist" professors are corrupting our youth fell out of favour, but we gotta keep that good ol' cold war mindset alive, so they are now "Cultural Marxists". Same shit, different name. It's the fear that our kids might actually learn something in university that we disagree with and thus the intelligentsia establishment is out to destroy our society.


Edit: Actually, from the first 10 minutes or so of his video... "Secularism is really gaining influence in our universities, and in Holywood..." saying some old white guy who looks alot like Pat Robinson (I didn't see a name, so maybe that is him?). So I guess I forgot something, it's SECULAR Communist Liberal Marxists taking over our colleges. Terrible stuff.

Secularism seems to be increasing in popularity.  Glad I was on the forefront as an atheist teen in 1963.

[Shiranu]

Secularism seems to be increasing in popularity. 

I would definitely agree with that, and I would say not just for atheists (obviously) but even people who are still very devout want their lives to be secular and their religious lives to be private affairs.

[Atheon]

Secularism is something that we as atheists should value.

Right-wingnuts love to attach the word "Marxism" to everything they hate.

Abortion? Marxism!
Gay rights? Marxism!
Black people voting? Marxism!
Jews existing? Marxism!
Women working outside the home? Marxism!
Science? Marxism!
Public libraries? Marxism!
People entering the country whose skin isn't lily white? Marxism!
Moooooooslims? Marxism!

This is why "Cultural Marxism" is a bogus concept. "Cultural workers' control of the means of production" simply doesn't make sense.

[Cavebear]

Secularism is something that we as atheists should value.

Right-wingnuts love to attach the word "Marxism" to everything they hate.

Abortion? Marxism!
Gay rights? Marxism!
Black people voting? Marxism!
Jews existing? Marxism!
Women working outside the home? Marxism!
Science? Marxism!
Public libraries? Marxism!
People entering the country whose skin isn't lily white? Marxism!

This is why "Cultural Marxism" is a bogus concept. "Cultural workers' control of the means of production" simply doesn't make sense.

Secularism isn't just something we should value, it is what we are.  We ARE secular.

[pr126]

The indoctrination is successful when the indoctrinated is completely unaware that he / she has been indoctrinated with an ideology.

Just like in a religion, the indoctrinated will defend the ideology to the end.
They will also reject that they been indoctrnated.
That is how it works. Indoctrination is complete.

[Shiranu]

[Cavebear]

The indoctrination is successful when the indoctrinated is completely unaware that he / she has been indoctrinated with an ideology.

Just like in a religion, the indoctrinated will defend the ideology to the end.
They will also reject that they been indoctrnated.
That is how it works. Indoctrination is complete.

I would like to know what I have been indoctrinated to.  I am not democrat or republican, capitalist or communist.  I have no theistic belief, I am not superstitious.  I am an omnivore.  I neither lead nor follow.  I don't even think in terms of gender.  I am what you don't think exists.

[Baruch]

Some of us are Americans, not citizens of the world.  If you are nationalist, instead of internationalist or culturally relativist rather than culturally absolutist ... then you aren't a cultural Marxist, otherwise you are.  But it is poorly named.  I call them "tools of George Soros".  Soros and Marx were both Jewish and progressives.  Technically they are all Mensheviks ... Trotskyites ... Stalin was a kind of nationalist, even if he was Georgian not Russian.  Mao and Castro are nationalists too ... they only support exporting revolution ... as a way to distract the Capitalists or create a buffer (Warsaw Pact & N Korea).  Their primary tyranny is against their own citizens.

On the other hand, being nationalist and culturally absolutist ... has its own problems ... see Hitler.

Communists hide as Socialists.  Socialists hide as Progressives.  As ideologies, I would have to fight them ideologically, even if they were only a domestic problem (not a fifth column for foreigners, like the Muslims coming into Europe are).  I have to ideologically fight the Democrats and Republicans, because one is Menshevik and the other is Bolshevik.  Guess which is which ;-(

The purpose of college isn't education, it is a continuation of the indoctrination of public school, the baby-sitting of public school.  Most people can get thru 16 years of so called education, and be unable to exercise critical thought ... which is what the goal is.  Society doesn't want critics, it wants workers and soldiers.  Sometimes, like in the 60s, the college system fails ... and we are still dealing with the fallout of that failure (to draft all the college kids to Vietnam).

[Cavebear]

Some of us are Americans, not citizens of the world.  If you are nationalist, instead of internationalist or culturally relativist rather than culturally absolutist ... then you aren't a cultural Marxist, otherwise you are.  But it is poorly named.  I call them "tools of George Soros".  Soros and Marx were both Jewish and progressives.  Technically they are all Mensheviks ... Trotskyites ... Stalin was a kind of nationalist, even if he was Georgian not Russian.  Mao and Castro are nationalists too ... they only support exporting revolution ... as a way to distract the Capitalists or create a buffer (Warsaw Pact & N Korea).  Their primary tyranny is against their own citizens.

On the other hand, being nationalist and culturally absolutist ... has its own problems ... see Hitler.

Communists hide as Socialists.  Socialists hide as Progressives.  As ideologies, I would have to fight them ideologically, even if they were only a domestic problem (not a fifth column for foreigners, like the Muslims coming into Europe are).  I have to ideologically fight the Democrats and Republicans, because one is Menshevik and the other is Bolshevik.  Guess which is which ;-(

The purpose of college isn't education, it is a continuation of the indoctrination of public school, the baby-sitting of public school.  Most people can get thru 16 years of so called education, and be unable to exercise critical thought ... which is what the goal is.  Society doesn't want critics, it wants workers and soldiers.  Sometimes, like in the 60s, the college system fails ... and we are still dealing with the fallout of that failure (to draft all the college kids to Vietnam).

Oh well, then in THAT case, I am not remotely a "cultural marxist" of any sort.  Sounds like a sad life.

[Baruch]

You probably don't spout French Existentialist poetry, wear a beret, and hold a cigarette in a funny way either ;-)  Never was a hipster myself either.

[Cavebear]

Meshed moslem art IS impressive.