What is the Alt-Right?

[Baruch]

I see it the same way, although I don't find them morally equivalent. The regressive Left's intention is to make life more equitable for everyone where the Alt-Right's intention appears to be concerned with making life better only for whites.

Stalin good, Hitler bad ... no thanks.

[Baruch]

And yet there is a strong anti-white sentiment among the regressive left nowadays which fuels the fire.  More equitable is an interesting way to say it :)  Don't get me wrong, I considered myself a social liberal until a few years ago.  Voted for Obama, twice, and was on board with the program.  It's when it got a little more radical that I opened my eyes and saw that those yelling racist and sexist were exactly what they were condemning.  Alt-Right = Regressive Left. 
I agree that the intentions of the left mean well, but the actions of the left have been violent and oppressive, more so these last few years.  You know what they say about good intentions...

I also voted for Obama twice, and I have never worn a bed sheet in anger.  The intentions of the Left are ... dictatorship ... the intentions of the Right are ... dictatorship.  I don't see anyone's intentions as beneficent ... just a choice as to who will rob and murder you.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

It's a term describing a loose set of people opposed to SJW ideals, which gets thrown around at neocons and non-regressive liberals as is convenient group of racist bigots who should all be strung up by their genitals.

[Unbeliever]

I don't see anyone's intentions as beneficent ... just a choice as to who will rob and murder you.

Yeah, but at least the left will rob and murder us kindly and gently...

[Baruch]

It's a term describing a loose set of people opposed to SJW ideals, which gets thrown around at neocons and non-regressive liberals as is convenient group of racist bigots who should all be strung up by their genitals.

If you don't like certain people, aren't you a bigot?  A real self-righteous puritan, would move to the top of a Tibetan mountain with Dr Strange, and not sully himself with fighting off the bad guys.  Dr Strange recognizes the ambiguity of activism.

[Baruch]

Yeah, but at least the left will rob and murder us kindly and gently...

You forgot the /sarc ... Dr Zhivago.

[Mike Cl]

I don't like the term.  Why not label it for what it is?  Fascism.  Hitler/Mussolini would be proud.   When the KKK and Duke laud Trump as their president, to say the least, does not bode well for the next 4 years.  What bothers me most about Trump is his message of hate--and he has not backed off of that yet. 

It simply boggles my mind that anybody who says they are a christian with christian ideals could consider voting for this hate monger.  But then, the christian religion has been morally bankrupt from the start.

[Baruch]

Trump is like Mussolini.  But that is a good thing ... he was much less competent than Hitler (at killing people).  Like Hillary in Libya, Mussolini was good at using modern weapons against Ethiopia.  But even Mussolini was cautious in attacking stronger foes.  Hillary would attack Russia.

[Hydra009]

I don't like the term.  Why not label it for what it is?  Fascism.

Eh, not quite that far.  Fascists advocate a totalitarian one-party state and a complete elimination of democracy, these guys don't.  These guys are more along the lines of white nationalists - loons ranting about minorities and calling everything under the sun a cuck.  Equally repugnant, but far less pernicious.

And that's assuming that this whole "movement" isn't just a rebranding of American conservatism (or a 4chan prank gone too far)

[Jack89]

I also voted for Obama twice, and I have never worn a bed sheet in anger.  The intentions of the Left are ... dictatorship ... the intentions of the Right are ... dictatorship.  I don't see anyone's intentions as beneficent ... just a choice as to who will rob and murder you.

I suppose it depends on if you're talking about the politicians or their followers.  I think there a lot of leftist voters who genuinely mean well, but the people they're voting for are just in it for the power (for the most part.)  I think the same is true for the right. 

[Mike Cl]

Eh, not quite that far.  Fascists advocate a totalitarian one-party state and a complete elimination of democracy, these guys don't.  These guys are more along the lines of white nationalists - loons ranting about minorities and calling everything under the sun a cuck.  Equally repugnant, but far less pernicious.

And that's assuming that this whole "movement" isn't just a rebranding of American conservatism (or a 4chan prank gone too far)

You don't think Trump would not like to have a one party system?  That would be one leg.  Another would be the corporation support.  He already has that.  A hatred of all things socialistic and/or communistic is already in place.  And he could have Congress set on fire by the musliims/immigrants and have a temporary state of emergency to take care of it.  Nah..............that's just way, way, toooo far fetched.  Isn't it?????

[Hydra009]

I suppose it depends on if you're talking about the politicians or their followers.  I think there a lot of leftist voters who genuinely mean well, but the people they're voting for are just in it for the power (for the most part.)  I think the same is true for the right.

True enough.  Though I think that politicians are more like the electorate than different from it - they're simply subjected to temptations that are never offered to most people and working within a system that rewards bad behavior more than good behavior.  There's a popular view of politicians as if they were some sort of villainous subrace - horrible in a way that the electorate isn't - and that if we just cleared house we'd be golden.  The unfortunate truth is that they're all too human.

[Hydra009]

You don't think Trump would not like to have a one party system?

Probably, as would a great many politicians.  But to the best of my knowledge, he has never advocated for the elimination of democracy or instituting a totalitarian state.  I don't like him any more than you do, but he's no Emperor Palpatine.

As an aside, I never thought I'd spend a night defending bad people from exaggerated claims of their badness.  Politics is a wearisome activity.

[Atheon]

I despise radical SJWs, but I also despise the alt-reich. Both are irrational, kooky, segregationist groups. Both live in fantasy worlds built on lies and twisted ideologies. Both groups are filled with hatred.

[Atheon]

I don't like him any more than you do, but he's no Emperor Palpatine.

Palpatine was far smarter. And he had the Force.