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Started by SGOS, November 08, 2016, 11:35:52 PM

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Baruch

Quote from: GSOgymrat on November 10, 2016, 06:40:48 PM
Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan said yesterday repealing the Affordable Care Act is a high priority and I would bet money the ACA will be repealed and replaced, with what I don't know.

Trump has already planned a trip to China to purchase their wall. :-)

The Chinese are corrupt enough to sell their icon for the right amount.

Would a single-payer be all that bad, even a Medicare for all?  Of course we can't afford it, but that never stopped a politician.  Or is protecting Obama's rotten legacy that important?
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Cavebear

Quote from: GSOgymrat on November 10, 2016, 06:40:48 PM
Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan said yesterday repealing the Affordable Care Act is a high priority and I would bet money the ACA will be repealed and replaced, with what I don't know.

Trump has already planned a trip to China to purchase their wall. :-)

Trump and the Republicans have said they want to "repeal and replace" Obamacare.  But they never say with what.  The truth is they want to return to 20% increases for all every year and max profits to the insurance industry.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 02:14:51 AM
Trump and the Republicans have said they want to "repeal and replace" Obamacare.  But they never say with what.  The truth is they want to return to 20% increases for all every year and max profits to the insurance industry.

Return?

Before ACA = 20% increase per year
After ACA = 20% increase per year

There is no magic fairy that will provide free health insurance, let alone free health care.  Fortunately both are unaffordable ... otherwise we would be hip deep in centenarians.
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GSOgymrat

Healthcare is extremely complicated and there are no easy answers. Medicare for all wouldn't address the rising cost of healthcare. ACA needs to change, as it was compromised from the beginning and never was delivered as designed because several states refused to expand Medicaid. I sincerely hope the system will be improved.

Cavebear

Quote from: GSOgymrat on November 11, 2016, 08:33:36 AM
Healthcare is extremely complicated and there are no easy answers. Medicare for all wouldn't address the rising cost of healthcare. ACA needs to change, as it was compromised from the beginning and never was delivered as designed because several states refused to expand Medicaid. I sincerely hope the system will be improved.

I agree.  Obamacare has got many people insured, but it needs improvement.  Fixing, not utter repeal.
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Gawdzilla Sama

Can we start making Pollish jokes now?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Cavebear

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Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 08:49:27 AM
Only if they stay "pollish".
We'll have to ask a bunch of people about that.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Baruch

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 11, 2016, 08:39:18 AM
Can we start making Pollish jokes now?

"They don't know shit from Shinola" (ancient shoe polish from my dad's day).
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2016, 09:13:14 AM
"They don't know shit from Shinola" (ancient shoe polish from my dad's day).

"Pollish", not "polish"...
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 09:17:27 AM
"Pollish", not "polish"...

He made a bad pun ...

"Can we start making Pollish jokes now?" ... Polls vs Poles (as in Warsaw) vs Poles (as in politician) ... a triple entendre.  Do please keep up ;-)
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2016, 09:47:21 AM
He made a bad pun ...

"Can we start making Pollish jokes now?" ... Polls vs Poles (as in Warsaw) vs Poles (as in politician) ... a triple entendre.  Do please keep up ;-)

We were talking about elections.  "Pollish" was appropriate.  Keep up yourself...
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 09:50:56 AM
We were talking about elections.  "Pollish" was appropriate.  Keep up yourself...

Says you ... Shinola is a prefect cultural reference to politics ;-)
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Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2016, 09:52:41 AM
Says you ... Shinola is a prefect cultural reference to politics ;-)
"Shinola" here is a reference to mere bribery.
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 09:55:57 AM
"Shinola" here is a reference to mere bribery.

Exactly ... so how much to I have to pay?
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