Uncensored Trump Rallies (NSFW)

[Shiranu]

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/08/03/hang-btch-fg-ngger-uncensored-rally-videos-show-trumps-america-2/


This is the underlying problem that I really don't think get's addressed enough; regardless of who wins this election, there is going to be millions of people sparked up by his rhetoric. Do you think their confidence to wear their bigotry on the sleeve will disappear just because their candidate, who insist's the election was rigged and isn't sure he will acknowledge he lost, didn't win?

I think what we need more than anything is to find SOME type o]f common ground with these people and work from there. On the whole, I think Trump supporters have real, legitimate issues facing them that are very valid... but they took for one reason or another the route o]fear and bigotry and pointing the finger at the weaker target to be the blame for all of their problems. I'm not sure how many Trump supporters really are "just idiots" by nature vs how many have been duped into buying his bullshit. And that bullshit is not exclusive to "idiots"; I know plenty of otherwise intelligent people who eat it up as well.

I guess the point is while Trump has been heavily divisive... I think we on the left have to also realise that there are many legitimately good people on the other side who have come to the wrong conclusions based off ofear of the wrong things, but with right reasons to be concerned. The rhetoric we use in someways is just as dangerous as the rhetoric they use, even f we are more politically correct about it or don't take it so far.

[Baruch]

Things would look different if either side had a decent representative (candidate).  Lincoln and Davis these folks are not.

Remember, it was New England who demonized the South first ... and was the first who wanted to secede.  The descendants of Puritans who burned witches ... weren't entirely rational.  Southerners (but not Rhet Butler) who thought the North would be easy to whip ... weren't entirely rational.  Recognizing (as you say) that both sides have reasonable fears that need calming down ... is mature.

[Mike Cl]

Things would look different if either side had a decent representative (candidate).  Lincoln and Davis these folks are not.

  Recognizing (as you say) that both sides have reasonable fears that need calming down ... is mature.

I quite disagree.  HRC is a more than adequate candidate for president.  I would say she is in the top 25% of all candidates.  If that translates into her being a top president will have to wait for the future.  But Trump is not fit to be even a business person.  But because he is a man running against a woman, he gets votes just for that.  Both sides do not have reasonable fears that need calming down.  The HRC side has all kinds of fears of the Trump side; he is as evil as any other fascist.  Both sides do not have equal claim to the truth or honesty.  There are not two sides to this coin.  And I am really tired of the media trying to present an argument that each side is equally guilty of dishonesty and just out right lies.   

[Baruch]

OK Mike ... but stop saying you aren't a DDDDDDDDDDDDD ;-)  At least one of you admits to being a Kos-sak.  That or get in a 12 step group for people in denial of their own political fanaticism.

So dictatorship by a righteous minority (your pick) is better than dictatorship by the majority?  Those who agree with the last sentence ... are true cadre of the Revolution.  Don't forget to light up your Cuban cigars.

[Hydra009]

I think what we need more than anything is to find SOME type of common ground with these people and work from there. On the whole, I think Trump supporters have real, legitimate issues facing them that are very valid... but they took for one reason or another the route of fear and bigotry and pointing the finger at the weaker target to be the blame for all of their problems.

I agree, but how much common ground can realistically be found with their right-wing nationalistic narrative?  What sort of common ground am I supposed to find with them in regarding abortion, socialism, or Muslim immigrants?  That seems like a bridge too far.

They do bring up good points regarding the economic plight of many Americans, particularly blue collar workers, the harmful effects of globalism, and government corruption.  But imho, a lot of it just seems like the cult of Trump.  Sorting the fertilizer from the cow chips seems like almost as big an undertaking as bridging the gap between the 1950s and the 2010s.

[Baruch]

Hitler and Stalin made a pact ... but it didn't last long.  The US is far more likely to break up in a civil war.  And without Lincoln ... there will be no putting it back together.  Will I miss it?

There is no political compatibility between present so called liberals and so called conservatives ... other than our violent evil foreign policy.  Domestically there is no agreement.  That spells civil war to me.  A tragedy, but so is most of human history.

When the Progressives jump into their starships to go fight the Klingons ... I will believe they aren't as full of shit as Biblicists who think that disobedient teenagers should be stoned with stones.  The liberals and conservatives both stink of self righteousness.  In fact most of them are religious, they aren't atheists.  But for some of you, I am sure you dream of your atheist progressive cadre ... ala Vladimir Lenin.

[Mike Cl]

OK Mike ... but stop saying you aren't a DDDDDDDDDDDDD ;-)  At least one of you admits to being a Kos-sak.  That or get in a 12 step group for people in denial of their own political fanaticism.

So dictatorship by a righteous minority (your pick) is better than dictatorship by the majority?  Those who agree with the last sentence ... are true cadre of the Revolution.  Don't forget to light up your Cuban cigars.

Don't smoke.  But that's okay, I'll just hide under the bed.

[Baruch]

Don't smoke.  But that's okay, I'll just hide under the bed.

Your post was triggering, I think the PC stormtroopers should pre-crime you ;-)

[GSOgymrat]

I think what we need more than anything is to find SOME type of common ground with these people and work from there. On the whole, I think Trump supporters have real, legitimate issues facing them that are very valid... but they took for one reason or another the route o]fear and bigotry and pointing the finger at the weaker target to be the blame for all of their problems. I'm not sure how many Trump supporters really are "just idiots" by nature vs how many have been duped into buying his bullshit. And that bullshit is not exclusive to "idiots"; I know plenty of otherwise intelligent people who eat it up as well.

This guy begs to differ.


Last Note to Trump Voters: You Are Wrong and You Are Shit and Your Candidate Is Shit

... The very things they think should convince sane people to turn against Trump are the very things that Trump voters love about their orange cult leader. You aren't dealing with anyone with reasonable intelligence or the ability to process logic, so stop trying.  Trump voters are shit humans, so obviously they want a shit human for president. And your oh-so-good points about how terrible Trump is are wasted on such shit.

You can show Trump voters articles by every economist under the sun about how Trump's economic policies will bring about another recession, and they'll tell you that your so-called "experts" don't know anything and Trump knows all. That goes for just about any other policy. Of course, Trump will build the wall and have Mexico pay for it. Of course, Trump will knock the hell out of ISIS. Of course, Trump will bring back manufacturing jobs. Of course, Trump will make coal central to the energy policy of the nation. Of course, Trump will round up all undocumented immigrants and send them back to their countries. Of course, we have to figure out "what the hell is going on" with Muslims, who all know what every other Muslim is doing always. And if other countries have a problem with how Trump handles things like NATO or torture, well, fuck them for not also believing in Trump. That's what nukes are for.

For Trump voters, his behavior as a shit human being makes no difference. His "grab them by the pussy" remarks were just friendly "locker room talk" and meaningless, and every single one of those women accusing him of sexual assault are lying about him or exaggerating or wanted it. His Trump University troubles are lies made up by a liberal media that has always been out to get him and should be punished. Those people he didn't pay for things like chandeliers or pianos or whatever for his hotels or country clubs didn't do a good job and didn't deserve full pay. And why the fuck should he have to release his taxes like every other major party candidate since the 1970s? Besides, they're under audit. Didn't you hear what the man said?

And I don't wanna hear how I need to "understand" where Trump voters are coming from. I know where they come from. I know them. I lived in three states that are going to go for Trump. I've got skin in this game. ...

By now, we've all had discussions with relatives, friends, co-workers, Facebook fucknuts, all of whom have told us with the same glazed eyes or barely coherent comment threads that they want Trump to shake things up or some such nonsense, usually followed by how Hillary Clinton is a criminal, and if you try to point out that Clinton has never been charged with anything after all of the investigations of her while Trump has had to pay fines because he broke the law and has more lawsuits coming, they won't care. They won't care about the Russia ties. They won't care about the FBI's fuckery. They won't care. You are a fool to talk to them about it anymore. They are lost in a shit-tide that they want to be a shit-wave that covers the entire nation in shit.

So my final words to them are this: You are wrong. Everything you believe is wrong. It isn't just that it conflicts with my ideology. It's that you are factually, demonstrably wrong, about Hillary Clinton, about Barack Obama, about Donald Trump, and your candidate consistently, flagrantly lies. He is utter shit. The fact that you don't care about this makes you shit. You should be whipped out of the public sphere like vermin-infested dogs until you only occupy the hinterlands and can live in your compounds of shit. The rest of us are done with you.

I am going into this election with my eyes wide open to my candidate's flaws. That makes me more honorable than the lot of you combined. So take your pathetic hatred of everything that has helped America progress and fuck yourself with it.

Adios, motherfuckers. The country is about to tell you to fuck off. And when next Tuesday is over, crawl back to your deplorable lives, eat shit, and disappear.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2016/11/last-note-to-trump-voters-you-are-wrong.html

[widdershins]

I think it all depends on which of his supporters you're talking about finding common ground with.  I have a friend who is normally intelligent, but he's getting older and not as sharp as he once was.  He told me a few weeks ago that he saw an article on CNN where Obama said he wouldn't leave office if Trump won.  In reality it was a fake news site where he saw it which said it was on CNN.  I, of course, can find common ground with him.  But his rabid masses?  The "lock her up" crowd or, better still, the "execute her!" crowd?  How about the "Impeach Hillary" crowd?  You might as well ask me to find common ground with the Arian Brotherhood.  I don't just find them to be ignorant.  I find them to be loathsome underminers of democracy.  If you're talking about impeaching a future president because your candidate didn't win, I'm sorry, but you're a piece of shit who is either too stupid to understand or too selfish to accept what a "democracy" is (or even a republic).  I just can't find common ground with that lot.  They believe what they believe and what they believe is that anyone who doesn't agree with them is sub-human and un-American.  They throw around the word "liberal" like it's a dirty word.  They literally believe that the party known for wanting to help the poor is evil.  They understand democracy so little that they truly believe that it's only democracy if they win every time, no matter how much they have to cheat.  "Normal" Trump supporters, no problem.  But the rabid Hillary haters who think she vamped out in Benghazi or claimed Obama wanted to turn America over to the Muslims?  I'm not going to go nuts just to find common ground with people who are nuts.

[Baruch]

Sorry liberal scum ... we ain't going anywhere.

Sorry conservative scum ... we ain't going anywhere.

Who could be outside of your binary pea-brains ... Independents!

FEMA camps for all the Rs and Ds ... if necessary by foreign invasion to clean up this threat to humanity.

[Hydra009]

So my final words to them are this: You are wrong. Everything you believe is wrong. It isn't just that it conflicts with my ideology. It's that you are factually, demonstrably wrong, about Hillary Clinton, about Barack Obama, about Donald Trump, and your candidate consistently, flagrantly lies. He is utter shit. The fact that you don't care about this makes you shit. You should be whipped out of the public sphere like vermin-infested dogs until you only occupy the hinterlands and can live in your compounds of shit. The rest of us are done with you.

I am going into this election with my eyes wide open to my candidate's flaws. That makes me more honorable than the lot of you combined. So take your pathetic hatred of everything that has helped America progress and fuck yourself with it.

Adios, motherfuckers. The country is about to tell you to fuck off. And when next Tuesday is over, crawl back to your deplorable lives, eat shit, and disappear.

I really, really want to emphatically agree with this.  But...

...not all Trump supporters are contemptible pieces of garbage.  We're talking roughly 40% of the country.  They're...*searches for the right word*...misguided.  And definitely, a lot of what Trump's had on offer has been equal parts outrageous and contemptible.  I hope that not long after he crashes and burns his supporters will wise up to that, or at the very least, be dimly aware that that sort of thing isn't accepted by rest of the population.

I hope that after the election is over, we can end this electoral war and no longer be at each other's throats.  We're not all going to agree, that much is certain, but we don't have to hate each other.

[GSOgymrat]

I really, really want to emphatically agree with this.  But...

I don't agree with it either. I just enjoy a good sanctimonious, off-the-chain rant sometimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syjp9lsWBhc

[Hydra009]

Yeah, but I feel like I'm using bad logic to argue against it.  For example, my 40% argument could also apply to lots of countries who have been host to extremely horrible (yet extremely popular) political ideologies.

I feel kinda bad that I can't really argue with "eat shit and fuck off" except to knee-jerk against it.

[Baruch]

Funny how so many people's idea of utopia, is a world composed of their own clones ;-)  Narcissism extreme.