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Offline Plu (OP)

Does math exist?
« on: June 05, 2013, 02:29:45 PM »
An interesting video on the topic of whether or not math is even a real thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... bNymweHW4E

I'd like to hear your opinions. I'm still trying to figure out my own :P
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Offline josephpalazzo

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 03:10:54 PM »
Math like the alphabet is a mental construct. OTOH, geometry is physics... don't get me started.
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Offline missingnocchi

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 03:17:30 PM »
I think that everything is math and people who believe in irrational numbers should be killed.
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Offline Solitary

Re: Does math exist?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 03:20:12 PM »
A lot of mathematicians think math is a discovery and exist in reality. I think it is an invention used to describe quantum reality that can't be described pictorially, or our world that can be described pictorially.  Good question though. Bill
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Offline aitm

Re: Does math exist?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 03:31:13 PM »
I have often wondered what philosophers think about when not serving fries or glasses of pinot grigio.....now I know.
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Offline Solitary

Re: Does math exist?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 03:45:02 PM »
:-$  I'm drinking my Old Vine Zinfandel now.  :rolleyes:  Bill
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Offline josephpalazzo

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2013, 05:30:17 PM »
Nothing beats beer and pizza.

 :P
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Offline Seabear

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 06:28:21 PM »
I dunno, do "words" really exist? What about colors?

It's philosophical bullshit like this that makes me want to kick someone in the balls.

For something that may not really "exist", it sure does a fantastic fucking job of allowing us to do things like make the computer you are reading this on work as designed. Things it would be impossible to do without it.
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Offline josephpalazzo

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 06:46:31 PM »
There are no numbers in your computer, except on your keyboard. Inside of your computers is a bunch of wires and switches.
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Offline Plu (OP)

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 06:49:53 PM »
I don't think anyone is going to argue that math doesn't work. But that doesn't mean that math is a tangible thing. And there's a big difference in approach to it between "it's a real, tangible thing" and "it's just stuff we make up".
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Offline Seabear

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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 09:11:13 PM »
Semantics
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Offline stromboli

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2013, 09:38:06 PM »
Quote from: "aitm"
I have often wondered what philosophers think about when not serving fries or glasses of pinot grigio.....now I know.

Thank you. I was not aware that Pinot Grigio was the correct wine to serve with fries.
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Offline Colanth

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2013, 11:48:04 PM »
See?  Philosophy DOES have some actual use.
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Offline _Xenu_

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2013, 11:51:23 PM »
Quote from: "missingnocchi"
I think that everything is math and people who believe in irrational numbers should be killed.
They are needed in college algerbra... not saying its right.
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Offline Solitary

Re: Does math exist?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 01:23:17 AM »
:-$ Don't even think about imaginary numbers.  :-k   :Hangman:  I just thought about an infinity of infinitesimals meeting at aleph.  :rolleyes:  Bill
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