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Contact lost with new Mars probe
« on: October 19, 2016, 02:32:32 PM »
The joint ESA-Russian Schiaparelli probe was scheduled to land on Mars today, but there has been no contact with the probe since it began its descent into the Martian atmosphere.

Not a good sign...
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Offline aitm

Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2016, 02:33:43 PM »
fucking martians.....we may have to go over there and kick their ass for fucking wit it.....
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Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2016, 05:03:14 PM »
Shit happens in space travel. Probes failing to successfully land is something every space agency is familiar with. Russians have an extensive history of failed probes.
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Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2016, 05:33:13 PM »
Cydonia or bust!

...bust.  :(

Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2016, 05:57:30 PM »
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Offline Baruch

Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2016, 09:07:57 PM »
The joint ESA-Russian Schiaparelli probe was scheduled to land on Mars today, but there has been no contact with the probe since it began its descent into the Martian atmosphere.

Not a good sign...

Like NASA ... curse of the lowest bidder ;-(
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Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2016, 09:36:45 PM »
Like NASA ... curse of the lowest bidder ;-(

Not necessarily. NASA lost the Mars Polar Lander because one team used metric and another used English units. It was a NASA engineering quality control SNAFU not a low bid contractor issue.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2016, 09:38:38 PM by PopeyesPappy »
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Offline Baruch

Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2016, 09:43:07 PM »
The QC team was probably a contractor that NASA hired.  Called an integrating contractor ... I have known a few.  NASA hasn't done their own work for decades.
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Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 09:49:00 PM »
Sorry but no. I was a NASA contractor supporting space shuttle and space station operations for decades less than decades ago. The people sitting at the consoles at Goddard and JPL telling these satellites what to do are NASA employees not contractors. That includes the QC people. I know. I've sat in enough meetings with them.
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Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2016, 09:50:17 PM »
Did I accidentally put your last post in quotes when making my reply, Baruch?
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Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2016, 10:35:28 PM »
We lost our Martian rocket ship, the high paid spokesman said
Looks like that silly rocket ship has lost its cone shaped head
We spent ninety jillion dollars trying to get a look at Mars
I hear universal laughter ringing out among the stars
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Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2016, 06:22:08 AM »
We lost our Martian rocket ship, the high paid spokesman said
Looks like that silly rocket ship has lost its cone shaped head
We spent ninety jillion dollars trying to get a look at Mars
I hear universal laughter ringing out among the stars
The lander was supposed to work for a few days. The new satellite can stay up there for years. It's all relative.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2016, 06:38:39 AM »
Sorry but no. I was a NASA contractor supporting space shuttle and space station operations for decades less than decades ago. The people sitting at the consoles at Goddard and JPL telling these satellites what to do are NASA employees not contractors. That includes the QC people. I know. I've sat in enough meetings with them.

Good for you.  Space Shuttle much?  I was on a contractor on a development team that lost a satellite launch (not from Space Shuttle).  We rocket scientists are all powerful, bow down and worship our ... science.  I guess our actual experience (with aerospace in general) isn't consistent ... so reality mustn't be consistent.  All government work, direct or contractor, is dependent on politics.

In other non-space work since, I have seen related government failure ... keep trying to save them from themselves but ... who will save he contracting company from their mistakes?  I will tell you what works, repeated failure, but not giving up, but with the non-PC ability to correct mistakes.  I have seen projects killed, that could have worked, but the management/customer gave up.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 06:39:53 AM »
Did I accidentally put your last post in quotes when making my reply, Baruch?

Nope, that was my duplicate entry, and I removed one, and didn't bother to remove the superfluous quotes on the one I saved.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Contact lost with new Mars probe
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 06:41:09 AM »
The lander was supposed to work for a few days. The new satellite can stay up there for years. It's all relative.

Sometimes ground control can jigger a response from a lost probe, but might take several months ;-(
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