Isn't there also a problem with nothingness being a universe generator?
To some degree, yeah. Go far enough down the causal chain and you run out of links. Lawrence Krauss has an interesting take on the origins of the universe, but suffice it to say that we don't yet know the answer to age-old questions about life, the universe, and everything.
My problem with the first cause argument is that God is just a placeholder for our ignorance and it strikes me as somewhat unseemly to worship my own ignorance.
If you say the universe could be eternal, like nothing never existed, that would require a God, wouldn't it?
Isn't it desperation to say it could just exist freely?
It's the best guess at the present time. We have some knowledge of the early universe and none at all of any god. The former seems like the better bet.
non-conscious energy formed itself as matter in nothingness, after time somehow got added, and then it went bang.
I have literally no idea what you're talking about here.
That seems as hard to fathom as God not needing a creator. I'll give atheism one thing, we can prove we're alive. We can prove evolution, scienctific theories out the wazoo, etc.. we can't prove God, but science will never.. and this isn't a god gap.. science will never be like, "We've unlocked the majestic qualities of nothingness!" you know? And it seems something would have to have existed forever.
Yes, there are limits to knowledge. There may in fact be some stuff that will never be figured out by people at all. That doesn't mean it should be treated as an open plot of land for religious folks to place statues of their deities.
Saying nothingness at one point existed is crazy talk.
Yes, it's certainly a difficult idea to fathom. Vacuum is one thing, but the absence of space and time and matter is not a phenomenon that humans are very acquainted with. But sounding preposterous hasn't prevented the existence of quite a number of bizarre things in the universe.
Betting the universe could be eternal without God seems like a losing proposition.
Occam's razor. Besides, who said our universe was eternal?
And deism has nothing to do with religion.
And I suppose that belt loops have nothing to do with belts.