Author Topic: why are you an atheist?  (Read 22813 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #300 on: April 13, 2018, 07:00:12 PM »
The structure of a hemoglobin molecule is almost identical to chlorophyll, with one atom of iron, instead of manganese (or is it magnesium?).  I saw the molecule diagrams for them in biology side by side, but I noticed other structural changes besides just that one.  We must be related to plants.  Well of course we would be.

Specifically, herbivores are traitors, and carnivores are traitors of traitors ;-)

In the beginning, there was cyano-bacteria.  It evolved when the atmosphere wasn't oxygen rich like it is today.  Stromatolites were the major class of being.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromatolite

They still exist in Australia.  So they did photosynthesis before the plants did it.  And produced a more oxygen rich atmosphere, necessary for more advanced life forms like plants and animals.  They produced the first mass extinction, and the greatest glacial age ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxygenation_Event

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth

See, Frosty the Snowman was the creator ;-)  The earliest multicellular life evolved from a fruit flavored 7-11 Slushie that melted ;-)
« Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 07:10:53 PM by Baruch »
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Offline SGOS

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #301 on: April 14, 2018, 11:48:07 AM »
In the beginning, there was cyano-bacteria.  It evolved when the atmosphere wasn't oxygen rich like it is today.  Stromatolites were the major class of being.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromatolite
Stromatolites!  Just the other day I was trying to remember the name of that interesting life form, one of the oldest on earth, and the exception to the rule that "all species go extinct."  Well at least they are not extinct yet.  I've heard them described as looking like cow pies, but I have never seen them, so I was happy to find this picture in your link:

Picture thanks to Ruth Ellison - Sromatolites at Lake Thetis Western Australia


Offline Baruch

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #302 on: April 14, 2018, 03:38:23 PM »
Remember, all subsequent life forms are direct or indirect parasites on the activity of the older life forms.  So basically, we are at the top of the food chain, but at the bottom of biosphere great chain of being.  All hail the master life form, the bacterial reef!  Should we lose oxygen out of the atmosphere, or acidify the oceans too much, stromatolites will once again dominate.  Other life forms, not so much.  But I think the scorpion will give it a run for its money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-gv2KPhB44

A little red-neck entertainment ;-)
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 03:50:09 PM by Baruch »
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Offline Cavebear

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #303 on: April 15, 2018, 12:55:20 AM »
Sorry, I just like to write absurd nonsense from time to time.  I try to make it absurd enough that people will recognize it's intentionally absurd, but I try to avoid such an extreme so that it might actually sound like something someone might say out of ignorance.

Actually, from what I just googled, it's more likely that the evolution seems to be that animals evolved to eat plants, and then evolved some mechanism that uses chlorophyll to manufacture hemoglobin.  It was not a detailed enough explanation to explain if the chlorophyll is a catalyst or a building block in the process or exactly how it is used.  The part about eating plants first and then using the chlorophyll itself is conjecture on my part.  I have no actual knowledge of the order of the evolutionary events.

Happy now?


Yes, I am a lot more tolerant about intelligent people who sometimes say odd things than I am about stupid people who accidentally say accurate things.  I actually do trust that you know better than to think that some plant suddenly became an animal. :)
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Cavebear

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #304 on: April 15, 2018, 12:57:15 AM »
This post showed up on a thread where I wasn't.  Admins, check your software!
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #305 on: April 15, 2018, 01:05:07 AM »

Yes, I am a lot more tolerant about intelligent people who sometimes say odd things than I am about stupid people who accidentally say accurate things.  I actually do trust that you know better than to think that some plant suddenly became an animal. :)

Probably not in nature, but with recombinant DNA we can mix life forms freely.
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Offline aitm

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #306 on: April 15, 2018, 12:08:53 PM »
This post showed up on a thread where I wasn't.  Admins, check your software!

I checked and checked but the more I checked on my software the harder it got.....
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline SGOS

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #307 on: April 15, 2018, 12:16:46 PM »
I've posted stuff to threads I never intended to post to, but this mistake has always required that I have been there.  Sometimes I've had two different threads on my desk at the same time, and end up writing in one to someone in the other.  Usually, it's because I google something to double check it's correct, then I go back to the forum and get the wrong thread.

 

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