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Offline etienne

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #225 on: March 14, 2017, 02:35:56 PM »
Worth remembering that "atheist" is not "anti-theist", just "non-theist".
It IS anti if the Theists are trying to oppress yo azz and or if you just want to take the initiative in tearing down their sand castles in the sky.
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Offline etienne

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #226 on: March 14, 2017, 02:42:02 PM »
Agnostic is like 99.9999999% atheist.  Just take the next micro step, dont be scared.  God's never going to suddenly show up someday, since it never existed in the 1st place.  Its all a big fat lie.  Getting over the lie is the tough part, but its doable.  Everybody wants a "hero" though to save them, though.  Save them from what?  The struggles imposed upon them by the system they themselves have designed?  Only humans can change what humans do.
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Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #227 on: March 14, 2017, 06:10:27 PM »
Why was anything Paul wrote in the Bible? the guy admits up front that he wasn't there....
Probably for the same reason that Simon "Peter" was considered the first pope - even though Jesus called him Satan, and he denied knowing Jesus - three times.
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Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #228 on: March 14, 2017, 06:26:17 PM »
And don't forget Sai Baba's infamous powder poof:



Kid's love that shit.
Wow, Sai Baba kind of looks like Mary Allen:


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Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #229 on: March 14, 2017, 06:34:43 PM »
Thanks for quoting the best book in the Bible, the Book of Job.

I prefer Ecclesiastes - it seems more in line with reality. Except for the parts that were added later, to make it say stuff about God.
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Offline Baruch

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #230 on: March 14, 2017, 07:53:14 PM »
I prefer Ecclesiastes - it seems more in line with reality. Except for the parts that were added later, to make it say stuff about God.

Kids, don't read Ecclesiastes, until you are over 50.  It might sour your youthful idealism.
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Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #231 on: March 14, 2017, 08:02:28 PM »
Maybe that's what happened to me, then. I read it when I was about 14. It made me a cynical pessimist.
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Offline etienne

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #232 on: March 14, 2017, 08:40:45 PM »
I've never read much of the Bible, or any "holy" book.  The Bhagavad Gita has some real good stuff in it, though I wouldn't say it is any better that Jesus's best advice.
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Offline Baruch

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #233 on: March 14, 2017, 08:51:12 PM »
I've never read much of the Bible, or any "holy" book much.  The Bhagavad Gita has some real good stuff in it, though I wouldn't say it is any better that Jesus's best advice.

Namaste ... and don't sleep with Draupadi, her five husbands don't like that ;-)
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Offline etienne

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #234 on: March 14, 2017, 09:02:38 PM »
Namaste ... and don't sleep with Draupadi, her five husbands don't like that ;-)
Alotta of the typical war stuff in the Bhagavad Gita too.  More elephants, though.  They have rat temples in India because the elephant god Ganeshi has pet rats.

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Offline SGOS

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #235 on: March 15, 2017, 06:44:39 AM »
They have rat temples in India.
Is that like the Corn Palace in South Dakota, the Montana Vortex - where water flows uphill, or Park of the Arc in Kentucky?

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Offline etienne

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #236 on: March 15, 2017, 06:59:36 AM »
Is that like the Corn Palace in South Dakota, the Montana Vortex - where water flows uphill, or Park of the Arc in Kentucky?

You're Almost There
Only 15 More Miles

Don't Miss it
The Rat Temple
Yeah, "Mystery Caves" and the like.  Bob's Big Boy right next door, and the obligatory Cabellas of course.
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Offline Baruch

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #237 on: March 15, 2017, 07:34:59 AM »
Alotta of the typical war stuff in the Bhagavad Gita too.  More elephants, though.  They have rat temples in India because the elephant god Ganeshi has pet rats.



I prefer the Tantric porn temples.  I was married to a rat (not really).  And no, you haven't READ the Gita, if you think it is about war.  Metaphor and you don't mix.  But if you shave your head, swear loyalty to be as your guru, put on a dhoti, and chant "rama, rama, rama .. ding-dong" ... you can be taught ;-))
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Offline etienne

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #238 on: March 15, 2017, 08:34:17 AM »
I prefer the Tantric porn temples.  I was married to a rat (not really).  And no, you haven't READ the Gita, if you think it is about war.  Metaphor and you don't mix.  But if you shave your head, swear loyalty to be as your guru, put on a dhoti, and chant "rama, rama, rama .. ding-dong" ... you can be taught ;-))
Yeah, blah blah, "metaphorical war", blah blah, I guess thats why the Hindus and Buddhists and Muslims are always going to battle and killing each other over a plop of ground, its just metaphorical war, right?  There are Hindu fascists, you do know that, right?  In fact they are in power over there right now in India.  Narendra Modi and his Hindu RSS gang of Nazi thugs.  They liked Hitler.  Alotta religious folk liked Hitler.  Savitri Devi, "goddess" of New Age fascism and Hitler's best groupie.  I mentioned Hirohito.
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Offline Baruch

Re: why are you an atheist?
« Reply #239 on: March 15, 2017, 06:55:45 PM »
Yeah, blah blah, "metaphorical war", blah blah, I guess thats why the Hindus and Buddhists and Muslims are always going to battle and killing each other over a plop of ground, its just metaphorical war, right?  There are Hindu fascists, you do know that, right?  In fact they are in power over there right now in India.  Narendra Modi and his Hindu RSS gang of Nazi thugs.  They liked Hitler.  Alotta religious folk liked Hitler.  Savitri Devi, "goddess" of New Age fascism and Hitler's best groupie.  I mentioned Hirohito.

Yes, the Japanese did pervert Buddhism during the recent Emperor era.  And they aren't the first Chakravartin to try that.  There was a Chinese emperor who tried to do that, with pacifism (not militarism) and failed spectacularly.  Well if you see everything as war (class struggle is a war) ... then every literature is war literature.

The point of the Gita ... is bhakti worship of the Hindu gods, particularly Lord Krishna.  This is a revolution (you like those) against the upper classes.  Messianic Judaism was a revolt against the Jewish upper classes too.  Buddhism was middle class revolt, like the Americans in 1776.  Basically Buddhism was the revolt of the Kshatriyas against the Brahmins.  Bhakti Hinduism is the revolt of the Sudras ... against both.  But Gandhi's revolt of the Untouchables, was successfully suppressed thru assassination.  Eventually Buddhism failed, when the Kshatriyas lost power.  That and Islamic invasion of India gave the Indians something else to worry about ;-)  Messianic Judaism was the revolt of the Am Ha-Aretz ... against the Tzaddukim and the Parushim ... who jointly ruled Judea from the beginning of the Roman occupation forward.  If you are going to mess with history, the details are important ;-)
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