God is Dead

[widdershins]

There's also the trinity of quark generations, u-d, s-c, t-b. I just found out that quarks may not be fundamental particles.

The number 3 seems to be embedded many places in our cosmic structure

The human brain is very, very good at spotting patterns, even when no pattern exists.

[sdelsolray]

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The number 3 seems to be embedded many places in our cosmic structure

So are the numbers 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6, among others.

[Blackleaf]

Is the trinity a single object?

He's a single god, although he is also three separate "persons." So he is both one person and three persons at the same time. Hence my question.

No we are not two in one. We are individuals. This question is irrelevant. This is not a good comparison to the other examples given in this thread.

It's no more irrelevant than the example of states of matter, or three places in time, or the three dimensions of space. No matter what example you give, you cannot make sense out of the Holy Trinity. There is nothing in the world that is similar to the concept of one person being three. Even if you cloned someone twice, each clone would still be their own individual.

This Holy Trinity speaks to himself, withhold information from itself, has different personalities (the Holy Spirit being the least willing to forgive, Jesus actually giving a fuck about people's problems enough to fix them), and yet they are not three separate gods. No, they're one... How does that make any sense?

[Baruch]

The human brain is very, very good at spotting patterns, even when no pattern exists.

False patterns, if often occurring, are still useful.  See classical physics.

[Baruch]

Have you ever seen a single object that was simultaneously a solid, liquid, and a gas all at once? No. But even if you did, it wouldn't make the Holy Trinity any less ridiculous.

You and I are not the same person, but we are both human. Are we two in one? Are we one human, two persons?

At the triple point, at a certain pressure and temperature, water exists as gas, liquid and solid at the same time and place.  Checkmate!

[Baruch]

Is the trinity a single object?

No we are not two in one. We are individuals. This question is irrelevant. This is not a good comparison to the other examples given in this thread.



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Psychology says we are not individuals ... we are a community of personalities, that sometimes share the same consensus!

[Kaleb5000]

He's a single god, although he is also three separate "persons." So he is both one person and three persons at the same time. Hence my question.

It's no more irrelevant than the example of states of matter, or three places in time, or the three dimensions of space. No matter what example you give, you cannot make sense out of the Holy Trinity. There is nothing in the world that is similar to the concept of one person being three. Even if you cloned someone twice, each clone would still be their own individual.

This Holy Trinity speaks to himself, withhold information from itself, has different personalities (the Holy Spirit being the least willing to forgive, Jesus actually giving a fuck about people's problems enough to fix them), and yet they are not three separate gods. No, they're one... How does that make any sense?

   Why must you be so aggressive and swear like you do?  I can't take you serious when talk the way you do. I'm just having a conversation. Why the anger?


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[Kaleb5000]

Psychology says we are not individuals ... we are a community of personalities, that sometimes share the same consensus!

I would say we are individuals who are similar to other individuals.


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[Hijiri Byakuren]

Why must you be so aggressive and swear like you do?  I can't take you serious when talk the way you do. I'm just having a conversation. Why the anger?

[Sal1981]

There's also plasma, like stars and other hot stuff.

Also a lump of matter CAN be in 3 states at once, it's called its triplepoint.

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[Absurd Atheist]

   Why must you be so aggressive and swear like you do?  I can't take you serious when talk the way you do. I'm just having a conversation. Why the anger?


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How to Dodge Logic Like a Pro, by Kaleb5000

[Solomon Zorn]

Kaleb doesn't need logic, to build an argument. After all, engineers don't need to measure, when designing a airliner. They can just eyeball it. I'm sure it will be just as good.

[widdershins]

Kaleb doesn't need logic, to build an argument. After all, engineers don't need to measure, when designing a airliner. They can just eyeball it. I'm sure it will be just as good.

They would get better results if they were to pray that the measurements were all good.

[Absurd Atheist]

They would get better results if they were to pray that the measurements were all good.

Of course they won't test the airliner themselves, or else they might get killed or something. After all maybe they didn't pray hard enough.

[Baruch]

Kaleb doesn't need logic, to build an argument. After all, engineers don't need to measure, when designing a airliner. They can just eyeball it. I'm sure it will be just as good.

Worked for Terydactyl Airlines on the Flintstones ;-)