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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #525 on: April 15, 2019, 02:10:50 PM »
Well, Jon officially knows his lineage now. This should be interesting.
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #526 on: April 16, 2019, 08:30:27 PM »



I'm going to miss this show so much when it wraps up.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #527 on: April 18, 2019, 07:04:16 AM »
No dis to those who love the show.

But I have often wondered about the attraction of Popular Shows.  There are so many I never bothered to watch (wanting to get actual stuff done).  I never watched a single episode of Charlie's Angels, Dallas, and so many others.  And Game Of Thrones is the same.  Is it that they give you something to to talk about with friends?  Office break time talk?  Social references?

I'm not completely immune; I always watched M*A*S*H but that was mostly because of the anti-war message.  And Star Trek because of the newness and ethical messages.  I don't get most of the others.  What am I missing?
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #528 on: April 18, 2019, 07:37:53 AM »
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Is it that they give you something to to talk about with friends?  Office break time talk?  Social references?

I'm not completely immune; I always watched M*A*S*H but that was mostly because of the anti-war message.  And Star Trek because of the newness and ethical messages.  I don't get most of the others.  What am I missing?
First, it's like Lord of the Rings (epic scope) but with a much more pessimistic tone (the heroes don't always win, people don't always make the right choices, people suffer calamity, etc). There's also a bit of tension because characters can and will die left and right, characters that you likely will care about.

There's enough character variety that you absolutely will bond with a character - they'll remind you of yourself or a family member or friend.  I guarantee you, you will root for someone and you'll want tune in just to see more of that person's story.

Mysteries abound.  Less so as the series has progressed, but even on the last season, there are still huge revelations to be had.

Sex and violence - apparently people like that.

Big budget polish - a lot of the time, fantasy and sci-fi shows don't get enough funding and it shows.  GoT has always gotten enough funding for great setwork, gorgeous costumes, impressive dragons, so-so actors, 2.5 seconds of Ghost, and exactly one Targarean wig.  (I kid, but the show really is visually stunning.)

And there is a message underneath all of that - a very strong egalitarian, anti-war message throughout the show.  Westeroes is dying as petty lords and ladies sqabble over some crown.  A corrupt ruler carries out petty revenges as the country bleeds.  Sound familiar?
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #529 on: April 18, 2019, 08:20:08 AM »
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First, it's like Lord of the Rings (epic scope) but with a much more pessimistic tone (the heroes don't always win, people don't always make the right choices, people suffer calamity, etc). There's also a bit of tension because characters can and will die left and right, characters that you likely will care about.

There's enough character variety that you absolutely will bond with a character - they'll remind you of yourself or a family member or friend.  I guarantee you, you will root for someone and you'll want tune in just to see more of that person's story.

Mysteries abound.  Less so as the series has progressed, but even on the last season, there are still huge revelations to be had.

Sex and violence - apparently people like that.

Big budget polish - a lot of the time, fantasy and sci-fi shows don't get enough funding and it shows.  GoT has always gotten enough funding for great setwork, gorgeous costumes, impressive dragons, so-so actors, 2.5 seconds of Ghost, and exactly one Targarean wig.  (I kid, but the show really is visually stunning.)

And there is a message underneath all of that - a very strong egalitarian, anti-war message throughout the show.  Westeroes is dying as petty lords and ladies sqabble over some crown.  A corrupt ruler carries out petty revenges as the country bleeds.  Sound familiar?

Hmm, I may have missed out on that assuming it was a drama crap.  I originally heard it was an endless series of people getting killed off.

I assume it can be binge-watched?  Where?
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #530 on: April 18, 2019, 10:04:43 AM »
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Hmm, I may have missed out on that assuming it was a drama crap.  I originally heard it was an endless series of people getting killed off.
That's not entirely incorrect - it's just not the whole story.

Imo, the series is 35% worldbuilding/lore, 35% plotting and scheming, 10% horrific violence, 10% speeches, 5% T and A, and the remaining 5% is Sam and Gilly tedium (It feels longer than it actually is)

If that's up your alley, go for it.

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I assume it can be binge-watched?  Where?
Legally, I can only say to stream it on HBO.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #531 on: April 18, 2019, 10:26:01 AM »
You don't have to have an HBO cable subscription or anything, you can get their online service stand alone for $14.99 a month. If you happen to have HBO with a cable package, contact your service provider and they will help you out.

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« Reply #532 on: April 18, 2019, 01:17:05 PM »
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Fun fact:  there actually is a character named Elmo in Game of Thrones.  Elmo Tully, he doesn't make an appearance, he's just mentioned in passing.  More of an easter egg than anything else.

Also, in a different scene, Big Bird became a wight.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #533 on: April 18, 2019, 01:39:57 PM »
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That's not entirely incorrect - it's just not the whole story.

Imo, the series is 35% worldbuilding/lore, 35% plotting and scheming, 10% horrific violence, 10% speeches, 5% T and A, and the remaining 5% is Sam and Gilly tedium (It feels longer than it actually is)

If that's up your alley, go for it.
Legally, I can only say to stream it on HBO.

Thanks, but if I ever get HBO, it will be for Bill Maher.  Best since George Carlin...
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #534 on: April 18, 2019, 01:46:25 PM »
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No dis to those who love the show.

But I have often wondered about the attraction of Popular Shows.  There are so many I never bothered to watch (wanting to get actual stuff done).  I never watched a single episode of Charlie's Angels, Dallas, and so many others.  And Game Of Thrones is the same.  Is it that they give you something to to talk about with friends?  Office break time talk?  Social references?

I'm not completely immune; I always watched M*A*S*H but that was mostly because of the anti-war message.  And Star Trek because of the newness and ethical messages.  I don't get most of the others.  What am I missing?


I haven't seen any GoT either, but I've seen a few clips of it at youtube. It's pretty intense, I guess, and people like living vicarious lives through the fictions of our modern times. They need drama in their boring lives, and it's better to get it from the Lannisters, et al, than their next-door neighbors.
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« Reply #535 on: April 18, 2019, 01:53:56 PM »
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Hmm, I may have missed out on that assuming it was a drama crap.  I originally heard it was an endless series of people getting killed off.

I assume it can be binge-watched?  Where?


One of James Corden's writers had never seen any of it, and so they locked him in a room and made him watch 67 hours of nothing but Game of Thrones! I doubt he'll ever be the same again...


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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #536 on: April 18, 2019, 02:45:49 PM »
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One of James Corden's writers had never seen any of it, and so they locked him in a room and made him watch 67 hours of nothing but Game of Thrones! I doubt he'll ever be the same again...


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You couldn't pay me enough money to do that.  But I'm reminded of Abraham Lincoln and a bribery attempt when he was a mere lawyer.  I searched all through the internet and could not find it, though the most promising site was all lincoln anecdotes here:

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But as I recall the story, Lincoln was approached by an opposing attorney who offered him some serious money to drop the case.  Lincoln said "no".

The man then said, "Look, every man has his price".  Lincoln said he was not bribable.  The man doubled his offer.  Lincoln said "no" again.  After that, the man tripled his offer.  Lincoln grabbed the man and threw him down the stairs. 

The man said "Why did you do THAT?"  Lincoln said "You were getting near my price"!

There are things I might watch if constrained or forced by company.  But the price would be high, LOL!
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #537 on: April 18, 2019, 02:47:57 PM »
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One of James Corden's writers had never seen any of it, and so they locked him in a room and made him watch 67 hours of nothing but Game of Thrones! I doubt he'll ever be the same again...
I know that 67 hours sounds like a lot, but that's almost 3 days worth of episodes released over the course of 8 years.

If my math is correct, you could watch as little as 70 seconds of GoT per day and get all caught up by the season 8 premier if you start microdosing on the same day as the series premier.  (Seasons 1-7 runtime = 3,393 minutes.  April 17, 2011 to April 18, 2019 = 2923 days.)

The book series is where the real challenge is at!  A lot of show-watchers who are unfazed by 3,393 minutes of show-watching balk at the idea of having to sit down and read all 5 books.

But the book series is a mere(!) 4,228 pages published over the course of 8295 days.  Let's assume that all five books were published on the same day and you're a super slow reader who can only read a single page a day.  You'd be all caught up by the end of February, 2008.  You'd have over a decade to sit on your hands and wait for new material!

It's entirely possible (but difficult) to read the whole thing in a year - just read 12 pages a day!  Or take your time and leisurely knock it out over the course of a few years.

The point is, people look at the total numbers and freak out, when really it's completely manageable.  A journey of a thousand miles...

...will take you less than three years if you walk at a leisurely pace of just a mile per day.
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« Reply #538 on: April 18, 2019, 03:38:06 PM »
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You couldn't pay me enough money to do that.
People have done a lot worse things for money.  Most of us here know at least a little of that pain.  Getting paid to watch TV - any TV - instead would be a godsend.

But binging is inherently unhealthy - people need sleep and exercise and decent nutrition.  Plus, it kinda ruins the experience - you don't get any time to process what you're watching and after time, boredom sets in and you don't enjoy it anymore.

The focus shouldn't be finishing a show as quickly as possible, but enjoying a show as much as possible.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #539 on: April 18, 2019, 05:45:20 PM »
There are Indian TV shows with over 100 episodes.  I will be reincarnated before I can get to the end.
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