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Sorginak

Quote from: Deidre32 on August 20, 2017, 07:17:31 PM
I can't believe I opened that spoiler....aaaaahhhh!! >,<

LOL, hope it doesn't spoil the viewing you have tonight.

Baruch

My favorite spoiler ...

"He must be covered head to toe in plot armor by now."
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Deidre32

Well, that was a predictable show, not because I saw the spolier/leak above. lol

But, the ending was a surprise.

[spoiler]Poor Dany, to have to fight her own dragon now, even though the dragon will be a zombie dragon, will be sad to watch. I love those dragons. :/[/spoiler]
The only lasting beauty, is the beauty of the heart. - Rumi

Hydra009

#453
7x6 Review

TL;DR It was everything I should have wanted, but it somehow disappointed me.

[spoiler]Jon's ridiculous plan is underway and the Fellowship of Winter heads north of the wall.  The banter was good for the most part (like Tormund sharing his crush on Brienne to the Hound), but a lot of what was said is pretty stupid after analysis.  Like Beric and Thoros justifying selling out Gendry with "we needed the money".  Huh?  What exactly did they buy with that money?  Cause we never see anything come of that.  And the Hound's statement that it doesn't matter because he's a-okay now is dumb.  It's not like you can get out of jail for attempted murder by pointing out that the victim still lives.

Also, is it just me or are they poorly dressed for the cold?  Few of them even have hoods.  IIRC, the wildlings from season 2 were dressed way more warmly and it's only gotten colder since then.

Arya's creepy scene with Sansa.  Something is seriously, seriously wrong with Arya mentally.  That might make sense if the writers had developed this slowly with Arya's training and assassinations really taking a psychological toll on her.  Instead, she's fine with Hot Pie, fine with Bran, then all of a sudden she's like Hannibal Lecter with Sansa.  WTF.

Next, shit really hits the fan north of the Wall.  The undead army encircles our heroes and waits them out - a great strategy that uses the undead army's key strength - attrition warfare.  The undead don't need to sleep or eat and resist the elements.  All they have to do is wait for our heroes to keel over and die.

...or they could just rush them one by one.  That works, too.  I guess.

Next - and I saw this coming - Dany comes in to save the day.  Awww yeah!

You have no idea how badly I've wanted to finally - FINALLY - see dragons fight ice zombies.  It was supposed to be epic as hell.  It was supposed to be the most memorable scene of the entire series.

The actual scene, however...   It was alright, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations.  Not underwhelming, not overwhelming, just whelming.  I'm whelmed.

What I didn't expect is that the undead would be fortunate enough to both have an anti-dragon weapon at the ready (they're suspiciously well-prepared to this situation) and actually down a dragon.  Impressive and heart-breaking at the same time.

Jon survives because of Deus Ex Machina.  The addition of Coldhands would've been okay if his arrival had been foreshadowed - the Fellowship spots a rider following them but disappearing from view almost immediately.  His sacrifice feels very cheap and contrived.

Speaking of contrived, Dany and Jon fall in love.  Why?  Because the plot demands it.

Jon finally bends the knee to Dany (because when you're facing an apocalyptic enemy, sacrificing a few things at the bargaining table is pretty) and Jon's X-COM team finally takes a living Chryssalid back to the Skyranger.  The research better be worth it, Jon.

Actually, Team Fire comes across one hell of an important find, and it has nothing to do with the fettered ice zombie.  They know now that if you kill a White Walker, all of its sired zombies instantly fall apart.  This info changes everything.  Instead of wasting lives fighting the zombies, they can just assassinate the leaders and boom, instant victory.  Just like Supcom.  Or chess.

If only there were some renowned assassin with a valyrian steel dagger...[/spoiler]

Sorginak

Quote from: Hydra009 on August 21, 2017, 05:59:47 PM
7x6 Review

TL;DR It was everything I should have wanted, but it somehow disappointed me.

[spoiler]Jon's ridiculous plan is underway and the Fellowship of Winter heads north of the wall.  The banter was good for the most part (like Tormund sharing his crush on Brienne to the Hound), but a lot of what was said is pretty stupid after analysis.  Like Beric and Thoros justifying selling out Gendry with "we needed the money".  Huh?  What exactly did they buy with that money?  Cause we never see anything come of that.  And the Hound's statement that it doesn't matter because he's a-okay now is dumb.  It's not like you can get out of jail for attempted murder by pointing out that the victim still lives.

Also, is it just me or are they poorly dressed for the cold?  Few of them even have hoods.  IIRC, the wildlings from season 2 were dressed way more warmly and it's only gotten colder since then.

Arya's creepy scene with Sansa.  Something is seriously, seriously wrong with Arya mentally.  That might make sense if the writers had developed this slowly with Arya's training and assassinations really taking a psychological toll on her.  Instead, she's fine with Hot Pie, fine with Bran, then all of a sudden she's like Hannibal Lecter with Sansa.  WTF.

Next, shit really hits the fan north of the Wall.  The undead army encircles our heroes and waits them out - a great strategy that uses the undead army's key strength - attrition warfare.  The undead don't need to sleep or eat and resist the elements.  All they have to do is wait for our heroes to keel over and die.

...or they could just rush them one by one.  That works, too.  I guess.

Next - and I saw this coming - Dany comes in to save the day.  Awww yeah!

You have no idea how much I've wait to finally - FINALLY - see dragons fight ice zombies.  It was supposed to be epic as hell.  It's supposed to be the most memorable scene of the entire series.

The actual scene, however...   It was alright, but it didn't come anywhere close to my expectations.  Not underwhelming, not overwhelming, just whelming.  I'm whelmed.

What I didn't expect is that the undead would be fortunate enough to both have an anti-dragon weapon at the ready (they're suspiciously well-prepared to this situation) and actually down a dragon.  Impressive and heart-breaking at the same time.

Jon survives because of Deus Ex Machina.  The addition of Coldhands would've been okay if his arrival had been foreshadowed - the Fellowship spots a rider following them but disappearing from view almost immediately.  His sacrifice feels very cheap and contrived.

Speaking of contrived, Dany and Jon fall in love.  Why?  Because the plot demands it.

Jon finally bends the knee to Dany (because when you're facing an apocalyptic enemy, sacrificing a few things at the bargaining table is pretty) and Jon's X-COM team finally takes a living Chryssalid back to the Skyranger.  The research better be worth it, Jon.

Actually, Team Fire comes across one hell of an important find, and it has nothing to do with the fettered ice zombie.  They know now that if you kill a White Walker, all of its sired zombies instantly fall apart.  This info changes everything.  Instead of wasting lives fighting the zombies, they can just assassinate the leaders and boom, instant victory.  Just like Supcom.  Or chess.

If only there were some renowned assassin with a valyrian steel dagger...[/spoiler]

You left out the very end with the [spoiler]zombie dragon[/spoiler].

Hydra009

#455
Quote from: Sorginak on August 21, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
You left out the very end with the [spoiler]zombie dragon[/spoiler].
[spoiler]Now that is scary as hell.

The White Walkers got one hell of a mass gift there.

(mass gift = a superheavy tank destroyed in enemy territory, which is then salvaged by the enemy to fuel their war machine.  A failed attack that actually strengthens the enemy more than hurting it.[/spoiler]

Deidre32

I liked it enough, but think it was a bit rushed, thrown together? It's like they know they have to condense things now, and it seemed a little sloppy last night.

The only lasting beauty, is the beauty of the heart. - Rumi

Hydra009

#457
Quote from: Deidre32 on August 21, 2017, 07:55:07 PMI liked it enough, but think it was a bit rushed, thrown together? It's like they know they have to condense things now, and it seemed a little sloppy last night.
From what I've heard about production, they really are flying by the seat of their pants.  Instead of relying on pre-existing books, they're basically just working off of bullet point plot structure and filling in the gaps themselves.  They're also trying hard to wrap up loose ends (the HMS abandoned plotlines has officially been sunk this season) and speed towards the end.

I really hope George has things planned out much better in his books.  Especially his trademark subversion of fantasy expectations and elaborate, detailed plots that presumably must have a huge payoff.

Because, I swear to the Seven, if I read that Sam steals Excalibur from the Citadel after tricking the archmaester with the classic "look behind you, there's a dragon" and then personally slays like 50 white walkers by himself, is immediately handed the crown, and he takes dragonrider Arya as his queen-bride and they have a baby together called Jon Syrio Stark (the pornborn) - if that happens, on that day I'll make the Field of Fire look like one of Hot Pie's ovens!!!  :mad:

Deidre32

Quote from: Hydra009 on August 21, 2017, 08:32:18 PM
From what I've heard about production, they really are flying by the seat of their pants.  Instead of relying on pre-existing books, they're basically just working off of bullet point plot structure and filling in the gaps themselves.  They're also trying hard to wrap up loose ends (the HMS abandoned plotlines has officially been sunk this season) and speed towards the end.

I really hope George has things planned out much better in his books.  Especially his trademark subversion of fantasy expectations and elaborate, detailed plots that presumably must have a huge payoff.

Because, I swear to the Seven, if I read that Sam steals Excalibur from the Citadel after tricking the archmaester with the classic "look behind you, there's a dragon" and then personally slays like 50 white walkers by himself, is immediately handed the crown, and he takes dragonrider Arya as his queen-bride and they have a baby together called Jon Syrio Stark (the pornborn) - if that happens, on that day I'll make the Field of Fire look like one of Hot Pie's ovens!!!  :mad:

LMAO, too funny. But, yea, I agree! It better not be an absurd ending, and where is Theon Greyjoy!!!??? Did they forget about him? One episode left, how will they tie him in. I'm seeing more of Sam than him.
The only lasting beauty, is the beauty of the heart. - Rumi

Hydra009

Quote from: Deidre32 on August 21, 2017, 09:14:01 PMLMAO, too funny. But, yea, I agree! It better not be an absurd ending, and where is Theon Greyjoy!!!??? Did they forget about him? One episode left, how will they tie him in. I'm seeing more of Sam than him.
Yeah, I've been wondering that, too.  I've seen more of Hot Pie than him so far, lol.  Maybe the next episode?

Hydra009

Question for everyone about the lastest episode:

[spoiler]Which character's death really hit you in the gut?  Thoros?  Viserion?  Benjen?  Unnamed wildlings?

Describe that character's personality in a couple words, then click the next spoiler tag.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Did you have a hard time coming up with anything?  Me, too.[/spoiler]

Sylar

Quote from: Hydra009 on August 21, 2017, 10:31:30 PM
Question for everyone about the lastest episode:

[spoiler]Which character's death really hit you in the gut?  Thoros?  Viserion?  Benjen?  Unnamed wildlings?

Describe that character's personality in a couple words, then click the next spoiler tag.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Did you have a hard time coming up with anything?  Me, too.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I hated Benjen's death. I wouldn't say "really hit me in the gut", but I hated it. Why does he always show up out of nowhere to save the Starks? What the fuck is he doing in the North all alone?

His plot has nothing to it besides show up at really convenient times to save the day. I realize they have to end his plot somehow, but they could've at least given us some insight into his character. Also, did they ever tell us how he became half walker half human? I do not think they ever did.[/spoiler]
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." --Oscar Wilde

Deidre32

[spoiler]Viserion[/spoiler]

Sad sad sad face
The only lasting beauty, is the beauty of the heart. - Rumi

Sorginak

Wow, only one more episode.  They shortened this season. 

pr126

I have seen some clips on Youtube on GoT. A veritable gore fest.
Not my scene, thanks. Although I did like LoTR.

GRRM is one sick puppy. But he knows what the market wants.
Blood and gore with sex.

Enjoy.