what would be an actually good reason to believe in a god.

Started by doorknob, August 13, 2016, 02:28:20 PM

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Cavebear

Quote from: Unbeliever on February 21, 2017, 07:03:16 PM
All you need is a super-soaker full of water to douse her...

Yeah, all the lion ever had to do was pee on the witch...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on February 23, 2017, 03:40:43 AM
Yeah, all the lion ever had to do was pee on the witch...

Wrong movie.  Ever get lost in your wardrobe? ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

doorknob

Quote from: Baruch on February 23, 2017, 06:00:51 AM
Wrong movie.  Ever get lost in your wardrobe? ;-)

Well in Epic Movie He does do a duch oven. So he could have peed on the witch and they just didn't show it.

Cavebear

Quote from: doorknob on February 23, 2017, 11:31:56 AM
Well in Epic Movie He does do a duch oven. So he could have peed on the witch and they just didn't show it.

There are probably some things I don't want to know the details of!  LOL!
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

doorknob

hey thanks for killing my thread!

"A good reason to believe in god is...

to not go to hell!"

LMAO

yeah thanks mom! I log that one away!

Blackleaf

Quote from: doorknob on March 23, 2017, 06:44:30 AM
hey thanks for killing my thread!

"A good reason to believe in god is...

to not go to hell!"

LMAO

yeah thanks mom! I log that one away!

You know, one thing I realized recently was the Christian God's similarity to Nebekenezer. At least the fictional version of him from the Bible. Both give the same ultimatum: Worship me or burn. The only differences are that God is supposed to be the good guy, while Nebekenezer is supposed to be the bad guy, and God burns you forever while Nebekenezer's only burns you until you die (which is pretty quickly, considering the people keeping the fire burning couldn't even get close to it). I guess God gets a pass because...he's god.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Baruch

Quote from: Blackleaf on March 23, 2017, 12:07:02 PM
You know, one thing I realized recently was the Christian God's similarity to Nebekenezer. At least the fictional version of him from the Bible. Both give the same ultimatum: Worship me or burn. The only differences are that God is supposed to be the good guy, while Nebekenezer is supposed to be the bad guy, and God burns you forever while Nebekenezer's only burns you until you die (which is pretty quickly, considering the people keeping the fire burning couldn't even get close to it). I guess God gets a pass because...he's god.

Good point ;-)  Book of Job makes the same claim.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: doorknob on March 23, 2017, 06:44:30 AM
hey thanks for killing my thread!

"A good reason to believe in god is...

to not go to hell!"

LMAO

yeah thanks mom! I log that one away!

If someone is actually a sociopathic monstor that just wants to rape and kill and 'sin' and make others suffer all for personal gain, but doesn't because he believes he'll get it back infinite-fold. Then yeah, I hope that person never loses religion.
Other than that, I couldn't really tell.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Baruch

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 23, 2017, 01:38:35 PM
If someone is actually a sociopathic monstor that just wants to rape and kill and 'sin' and make others suffer all for personal gain, but doesn't because he believes he'll get it back infinite-fold. Then yeah, I hope that person never loses religion.
Other than that, I couldn't really tell.

All of us are crazy and equal, but some are crazier and more equal than others.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 23, 2017, 01:38:35 PM
If someone is actually a sociopathic monstor that just wants to rape and kill and 'sin' and make others suffer all for personal gain, but doesn't because he believes he'll get it back infinite-fold. Then yeah, I hope that person never loses religion.
Other than that, I couldn't really tell.

But what if they realize that they can sin all they want and just repent afterwards?
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Blackleaf on March 23, 2017, 08:16:06 PM
But what if they realize that they can sin all they want and just repent afterwards?

Then even that doesn't hold up.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Sorginak


Cavebear

Quote from: Sorginak on March 24, 2017, 01:50:13 AM
According to religion it does.

Yeah, repent in your last moments and you are saved.  And I mean that dying repentance can be real and serious.  So Stalin repents and his sins are forgiven?  Give me a break.

Well, I suppose it is better than paid indulgences...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Sorginak

Quote from: Cavebear on March 24, 2017, 03:15:38 AM
Yeah, repent in your last moments and you are saved.  And I mean that dying repentance can be real and serious.  So Stalin repents and his sins are forgiven?  Give me a break.

Well, I suppose it is better than paid indulgences...

Considering how religion and its belief systems are veritable myths, I think we have nothing to worry about in regard to actual theistic criminals cheating the system.  However, I also understand how theistic individuals only think in terms of their theism, actual reason escaping their little minds, so speaking in terms they understand can be considered beneficial except that those ignorant, illogical apologist arguments just seem to keep getting in the way.