what would be an actually good reason to believe in a god.

[Sorginak]

So Trump isn't the anti-Christ as long as at least one person disagrees?

The anti-christ has to be liked by everyone; he will be someone by whom even the theists are fooled. 

[doorknob]

How do they know the anti christ isnt a she?


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[Sorginak]

How do they know the anti christ isnt a she?


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Considering that the Judeo-Christian religions are patriarchal in nature, they would immediately distrust any woman in charge.  Thus, discounting her as being the anti-christ since the anti-christ would gain the trust of everyone.

[Unbeliever]

I think the ancient  Roman Catholic Church may have been the anti-Christ, given that their first pope was the only one of the disciples who denied Jesus three times. I bet they even have a ritual Christ-denial before becoming pope.

[Baruch]

But there is logical evidence against logically inconsistent [G]ods. If a God with mutually exclusive characteristics is posited, then logic denies its existence.

Humans are inconsistent ... so we must not exist.  Only Vulcans exist.  Putting logic over faith, is what got Abelard and Heloise into trouble, that and concupiscence.

[Baruch]

Considering that the Judeo-Christian religions are patriarchal in nature, they would immediately distrust any woman in charge.  Thus, discounting her as being the anti-christ since the anti-christ would gain the trust of everyone.

There already was a legendary female Pope, so the anti-Christ has already come and gone over 1000 years ago.  Pope Joan.  But that defies the "popularity" meme.

[Baruch]

I think the ancient  Roman Catholic Church may have been the anti-Christ, given that their first pope was the only one of the disciples who denied Jesus three times. I bet they even have a ritual Christ-denial before becoming pope.

Not only that, but in tradition they still show a Pope Candidate chair, that has a hole in the bottom, so a deacon can check the candidate for female parts (see Pope Joan).

[fencerider]

some day we 'may' find out.  But until that time, for me, the total and complete lack of evidence just screams fiction--a Creator God who leaves no traces whatsoever, is and must be, a fiction.  When/if the day comes when proof suddenly appears, I will then change my way of thinking and embrace this God for all I'm worth.

I was agreein with you until that last part. If a real god shows up just happens to be the Christian god, well, we got some issues to work out before any embracing is going on. Course if its another god that shows up; still gonna have to do a little bit of talkin to get my approval.

[Cavebear]

But there is logical evidence against logically inconsistent [G]ods. If a God with mutually exclusive characteristics is posited, then logic denies its existence.

Actually, I suspect there is no "then" involved.  Almost any logic denies the existence of a deity.

[Mike Cl]

I was agreein with you until that last part. If a real god shows up just happens to be the Christian god, well, we got some issues to work out before any embracing is going on. Course if its another god that shows up; still gonna have to do a little bit of talkin to get my approval.

Well, I have to agree on that point--was being a little factious, tho.  But if any god showed up I would like a little explaining going on. :)

[Blackleaf]

For a while after losing my faith, I wanted to find out that God was real. Now that I realize how evil the Christian god would be if he were real, I don't think I want that any more. The Christian god can screw himself. Literally. I think he's the only god who can do a three-way with himself.

[Baruch]

Actually, I suspect there is no "then" involved.  Almost any logic denies the existence of a deity.

Deities are unreasonable (even if they exist).  They are not un-logical ... hence theology.  Theology makes the unreasonable, logical.

[Unbeliever]

Well, I have to agree on that point--was being a little factious, tho.  But if any god showed up I would like a little explaining going on. :)

Yeah, just like Lucy, any god's got lots of 'splaining to do...

[Unbeliever]

I think he's the only god who can do a three-way with himself.

Wow, tickets could be sold! It'd be the biggest blockbuster in the history of the universe!

[fencerider]

and then there is Hydra with many heads. and Vishnu with many hands. freekin godly orgy