So, you think trump is xenophobic.

[Jannabear]

a few thousand people die in a decade and a half, we spend hundreds of billions, millions of people die in africa, we dont use tax dollars to help them.
We call trump xenophobic, yet we ignore millions of people dying because they dont live here.

[Johan]

You should switch to decaf.

[Shiranu]

xen·o·pho·bi·a
ËŒzenəˈfōbÄ"É™,ËŒzÄ"nəˈfōbÄ"É™/
noun
intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.

[stromboli]

a few thousand people die in a decade and a half, we spend hundreds of billions, millions of people die in africa, we dont use tax dollars to help them.
We call trump xenophobic, yet we ignore millions of people dying because they dont live here.

You might actually do some investigating before posting a topic.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/opinion/where-does-aid-money-really-go/

Editor's note: Charles Lwanga Ntale is director for Africa for Development Initiatives, a not-for profit organization that focuses on the role of information in ending poverty by 2030. Investments to End poverty can be downloaded at www.devinit.org
(CNN) -- What is the value and impact of international aid? In an era of global austerity, this is a question that is frequently posed by policymakers and the citizens they represent.
The truth is, it is actually quite hard to measure. But there are important questions about both the quantity and quality of aid that must be answered.

Contrary to popular perception, aid is not one homogenous entity or a single transfer of money from donor to recipient countries. The term "international aid" actually covers a wide variety of things, including food and commodities, advice and training, and debt relief.
In 2011 -- the last year we have comprehensive data for -- total development aid from rich countries stood at nearly $150 billion, according to the Investments to End Poverty report. Only $59 billion identifiably involves the transfer of actual cash to, for example, recipient governments, NGOs operating on the ground or special project fund

Aid in kind makes up another $25 billion. Most of this is food aid, which is used to tackle acute hunger -- but even this form of aid is not without controversy. Many donors avoid shipping actual food to developing countries, aware that it destroys local markets and harms local farmers.
Research demonstrates that food aid can be poor value for money, especially when food grown in donor countries is shipped to the developing world. Sorghum shipped from the United States is 200% more expensive than it is in Chad and almost 100% more than in Sudan, according to Development Initiatives calculations. Despite this, the United States and Japan continue to make extensive use of food shipments.

Large amounts of aid money never actually leave rich countries.

Perhaps even more surprising is the fact that large amounts of aid money never actually leave rich countries.
As much as $22 billion -- or 20% of bilateral aid spending -- is spent on activities in donor countries or put towards the cancellation of debt. This includes funds to cover housing, food and other services for the first 12 months of refugees' stay in the donor country. It also includes public spending on universities to cover the costs for students from developing countries. In 2011, $4.5 billion was spent on refugee costs, $3.5 billion on university costs and around $7.5 billion on debt relief.
As important as these expenditures may be, they do not result in any transfer of resources to developing nations. These schemes may of course be beneficial to recipient countries in the long term -- for example, contributing to capacity development if students return to their countries. But it is undeniable that these schemes are at odds with the common perception of aid as financial support transferred from donor to recipient countries to fight poverty.

These different elements of aid obviously have very different effects on economic development and growth. A dollar of cash will have a very different impact to a dollar's worth of food or a dollar's worth of a consultant's time. It is difficult to understand just how bundling all of these items into one lump sum can allow us to draw meaningful and reliable conclusions about the value of aid.

This lack of clarity was part of the motivation for Investments to End Poverty -- a major new report that analyzes aid in all of its complexity. At Development Initiatives we reviewed each individual record of foreign aid from OECD donors over the period 2006-2011 -- over a million rows of data. Now, for the first time ever, we can see just how much aid flows between specific countries and, crucially, what that aid consists of.

The results are striking. For example, according to our calculations, Italy and Denmark both gave very similar levels of bilateral aid, just above $2 billion, in 2011. But almost 70% of Italy's aid stayed in the country, spent on refugee costs and debt relief, whereas around 70% of Denmark's aid resulted in a transfer of resources to developing countries.
On the recipient side, some countries that appear to receive considerable funds in fact receive a lot less than advertised. Our research found that of the $7.5 billion in aid reported as given to the Democratic Republic of Congo in 2011, more than $5 billion was not transferred to that country, and consisted instead of debt relief.
All of this matters because we are at a crossroads in international development. In the last few decades, we have seen unprecedented progress in alleviating poverty, as recognised by world leaders meeting at the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September. There is a growing consensus that we can end extreme poverty by 2030.

The truth is that we cannot meet this goal without international aid. While FDI and remittances undoubtedly contribute to economic growth in developing countries, aid is the only international resource flow which can be targeted explicitly to improve the lives of the poorest people around the world.

In sub-Saharan Africa alone, 400 million people live in extreme poverty and require interventions that are targeted and complementary to existing support to lift them out of it. Without the support of international aid, most poor people will be left behind.
If we want to maximize the impact and reach of international aid, we need to ensure that every dollar is spent as efficiently as possible. We can only do this with better information and a clear understanding. Then policymakers in both donor and recipient countries can make better and more informed decisions, and civil society can better monitor progress and hold them to account.

Aid comes in a variety of forms and used for different purposes. Literal billions from many different countries is put towards aid in just Africa- there happen to be other 3rd world countries with "issues"

To complicate matters you can throw in global warming and the loss of crops and water sources, corrupt national and local governments siphoning off funds, not to mention corrupt officials all along the line getting their cut.

Aid isn't just food or money, but much more. It makes sense to educate people from 3rd world countries to deal with economic and social issues. Better to educate an engineer to build a water system than dump money into a local economy that simply gets chewed up by corrupt politicians. 

There is a wealth of information on the internet concerning the topic. You might consider looking it up.

[Nonsensei]

And all I can think of is SGDQ where a bunch of white american kids are playing video game speedruns on twitch for donations for doctors without borders. They're closing in on a million dollars this year.

[Jannabear]

You might actually do some investigating before posting a topic.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/opinion/where-does-aid-money-really-go/





Aid comes in a variety of forms and used for different purposes. Literal billions from many different countries is put towards aid in just Africa- there happen to be other 3rd world countries with "issues"

To complicate matters you can throw in global warming and the loss of crops and water sources, corrupt national and local governments siphoning off funds, not to mention corrupt officials all along the line getting their cut.

Aid isn't just food or money, but much more. It makes sense to educate people from 3rd world countries to deal with economic and social issues. Better to educate an engineer to build a water system than dump money into a local economy that simply gets chewed up by corrupt politicians. 

There is a wealth of information on the internet concerning the topic. You might consider looking it up.

Then my point still would stand in that we should help them, i guess it would be better to focus on educating them then to focus on feeding them specifically?

[baronvonrort]

Would the exact opposite of a Xenophobe be someone who promiscuously embraces foreign cultures while snobbishly rejecting their own culture?

[Hydra009]

Would the exact opposite of a Xenophobe be someone who promiscuously embraces foreign cultures while snobbishly rejecting their own culture?

Xenophilia (affection for foreign culture/people) is the polar opposite of xenophobia.  It doesn't necessarily involve a dislike of local culture/people.

In terms of harm, one predilection is way more harmful than the other.  Xenophobia is associated with a lot of day-to-day misery as well as the most heinous crimes imaginable.  Xenophilia is associated with jetsetting and an atypical affection for foreign tv/music/movies.  One involves learning new languages, the other involves learning die neuordnung.  It's not particularly difficult to deduce which activity is more enriching.

[Atheon]

a few thousand people die in a decade and a half, we spend hundreds of billions, millions of people die in africa, we dont use tax dollars to help them.
We call trump xenophobic, yet we ignore millions of people dying because they dont live here.

The problems in Africa are chiefly enabled by corrupt, authoritarian governments. Much of the money and aid that gets sent there ends up in the pockets of corrupt government officialdom, as well as warlords, paramilitary groups, rebels, mega-corporations, etc. etc.

That being said, organizations like Doctors Without Borders and the International Red Cross are still able to make a tangible difference. They're definitely worth donating to.

[jakeeey]

If I believed in charity I'd believe that it starts at home.


When we can house, feed, educate and medically treat all of the children in our host nations (which we don't), I'd support looking outward to others.


I'm sure that won't be a popular viewpoint, but nonetheless it's the one I hold.




Jake :)