Author Topic: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.  (Read 19214 times)

Offline trdsf

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #165 on: February 17, 2017, 11:29:18 AM »
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That is still a lazy thinker's answer.
There's a reason I consider philosophy to be only marginally less pointless than theology.  :)
Sir Terry Pratchett, on being told about the theory that the universe is a computer simulation: "If we all get out and in again, would it start to work properly this time?"

Offline Baruch

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #166 on: February 17, 2017, 12:45:06 PM »
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There's a reason I consider philosophy to be only marginally less pointless than theology.  :)

Contemplating your navel is useful, if you need to clean the lint out ;-)
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Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #167 on: February 17, 2017, 01:26:30 PM »
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That is still a lazy thinker's answer.
Philosophy is weight-lifting with helium balloons anyway.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #168 on: February 17, 2017, 03:48:25 PM »
Philosophy is OK when it comes to morality or ethics, but when it comes to physical reality no philosopher has ever known enough to know what they were talking about, and so should steer clear of it. Unfortunately, they haven't.
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Offline Baruch

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #169 on: February 17, 2017, 06:40:40 PM »
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Philosophy is OK when it comes to morality or ethics, but when it comes to physical reality no philosopher has ever known enough to know what they were talking about, and so should steer clear of it. Unfortunately, they haven't.

Natural philosophy = modern science.  The scientists just don't want to be as kooky as Newton anymore.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #170 on: February 19, 2017, 02:38:13 AM »
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Natural philosophy = modern science.  The scientists just don't want to be as kooky as Newton anymore.

Natural philosophy is the pre-scientific attempt to combine nature and spirit.  It does not equate to modern science.
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Offline Baruch

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #171 on: February 19, 2017, 08:56:35 AM »
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Natural philosophy is the pre-scientific attempt to combine nature and spirit.  It does not equate to modern science.

So you invented the reflecting telescope, analyzed light into the rainbow, invented calculus before Leibniz, developed celestial mechanics into a true science, discovered the universal law of gravitation, and were master of the mint?  But Newton was also an alchemist and a Revelations interpreter.  So for you only a pure atheist like Feynman is a real scientist?
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Offline Cavebear

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #172 on: February 23, 2017, 04:00:38 AM »
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So you invented the reflecting telescope, analyzed light into the rainbow, invented calculus before Leibniz, developed celestial mechanics into a true science, discovered the universal law of gravitation, and were master of the mint?  But Newton was also an alchemist and a Revelations interpreter.  So for you only a pure atheist like Feynman is a real scientist?

Newton was one of the transitioners of natural science to modern science.  He made great strides, but also had pre-scientific ideas.
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Offline Baruch

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #173 on: February 23, 2017, 05:55:21 AM »
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Newton was one of the transitioners of natural science to modern science.  He made great strides, but also had pre-scientific ideas.

We are 1000 years in the past (of 1000 years from now) ... we are hopelessly primitive to.  With Progress (tm) we will have even smarter phones in the future.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #174 on: February 23, 2017, 11:07:37 AM »
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We are 1000 years in the past (of 1000 years from now) ... we are hopelessly primitive to.  With Progress (tm) we will have even smarter phones in the future.

Your statement means "today".  Feel free to engage in primitive beliefs.  I do not.
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Offline Baruch

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #175 on: February 23, 2017, 12:22:32 PM »
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Your statement means "today".  Feel free to engage in primitive beliefs.  I do not.

So get the bone out of your own nose, before you get it out of mine (Jesus).
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Offline Cavebear

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #176 on: February 26, 2017, 10:15:08 AM »
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So get the bone out of your own nose, before you get it out of mine (Jesus).

You need to identify the bone.  Only then can we discuss it.  And I'll bet the only response you can manage is a non-sequitor.
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Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #177 on: February 26, 2017, 10:22:47 AM »
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Philosophy is OK when it comes to morality or ethics, but when it comes to physical reality no philosopher has ever known enough to know what they were talking about, and so should steer clear of it. Unfortunately, they haven't.
"No philosopher came out of a debate with more than he went in with." Jubal Harshaw.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Offline Cavebear

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #178 on: February 26, 2017, 10:32:18 AM »
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"No philosopher came out of a debate with more than he went in with." Jubal Harshaw.

Far from me to argue with Jubal.  But I will if I get a chance.  He would appreciate that.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: World Will End July 29th. You Have been Warned.
« Reply #179 on: February 26, 2017, 12:22:34 PM »
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You need to identify the bone.  Only then can we discuss it.  And I'll bet the only response you can manage is a non-sequitor.

New Guinea men use a boar's tusk thru the septum ... ouch!  Not my fault that you don't know head hunter culture.  This is why I always stayed away from them, when they called me at work, offering me a new job ;-))
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