Author Topic: Demolishing The Messiah Myth  (Read 3760 times)

Online Mr.Obvious

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2016, 04:51:29 AM »
Yes, the Holy Spirit is the divine messenger and he speaks to the believer. John 14:17   

No, that's an assertion. A claim at best; can you substantiate it?
E = Mc²

In the end, we are all standing in the dark,
trying to figure out why we are here.
But let us not choose one direction
without proof of where it is headed.

Check your pocket for matches
so we can observe and learn together
as fast friends and relative idiots.

Offline SGOS

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2016, 05:53:40 AM »
Yes, the Holy Spirit is the divine messenger and he speaks to the believer. John 14:17   

True identity is only possible in unparalleled acceptance.  Deepac Chopra     http://wisdomofchopra.com/

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2016, 10:03:15 AM »
Yes, the Holy Spirit is the divine messenger and he speaks to the believer. John 14:17   
Oh yeah, the Tooth Fairy have sex all the time, for I am a true believer!  Gotcha!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2016, 05:47:51 PM »
"When ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise" The game breaker will always be the Holy Spirit because he defies intellect, which is foolishness unto God. Why should God reveal himself to unbelievers? That is what the romans demanded; "Take yourself down from the cross if you are the real God"
I was once a sceptic, but I never closed my heart and mind to the possibility of an eternal God.
Now the evidence has been presented to me, I choose to share it with whomever may be interested.

 

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2016, 06:00:18 PM »
"When ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise" The game breaker will always be the Holy Spirit because he defies intellect, which is foolishness unto God.
That is the key right there.  It is so much easier to be ignorant and then to revel in it; thinking and reasoning is just so much harder.  Yep--theists are stupid and make a virtue of it.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2016, 09:44:49 PM »
Your logic is unassailable. The weatherman was wrong: therefore science is for morons.

Smart people, on the other hand, get their knowledge and predictions from God's big book of indisputable facts.
Paid Scientists could not be trusted with a very short term prediction, yet atheists give credence to a 13 billion year old hunch.

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2016, 10:14:28 PM »
That is the key right there.  It is so much easier to be ignorant and then to revel in it; thinking and reasoning is just so much harder.  Yep--theists are stupid and make a virtue of it.
Like I said, the Holy Spirit is the "game breaker," otherwise it becomes like a soccer player and a rugby player arguing about the shape of the ball.

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2016, 10:20:48 PM »
Like I said, the Holy Spirit is the "game breaker," otherwise it becomes like a soccer player and a rugby player arguing about the shape of the ball.
Yeah, that old Holy Spirit is pretty good.  But, from my experience, The Tooth Fairy, or The Invisible Pink Unicorn are more dependable. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2016, 11:10:38 PM »
Paid Scientists could not be trusted with a very short term prediction, yet atheists give credence to a 13 billion year old hunch.

I don't trust scientists either, but I trust the Pope even less.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2016, 11:12:04 PM »
"When ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise" The game breaker will always be the Holy Spirit because he defies intellect, which is foolishness unto God. Why should God reveal himself to unbelievers? That is what the romans demanded; "Take yourself down from the cross if you are the real God"
I was once a sceptic, but I never closed my heart and mind to the possibility of an eternal God.
Now the evidence has been presented to me, I choose to share it with whomever may be interested.

Ah, but the people here are not interested in your testimony.  But don't take it personally.  Aren't you dishonest?  Aren't you trying to get brownie points with G-d for evangelism?
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Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2016, 03:02:33 AM »
Ah, but the people here are not interested in your testimony.  But don't take it personally.  Aren't you dishonest?  Aren't you trying to get brownie points with G-d for evangelism?
If that was the goal I would go for Mormonism, as they have different levels of celestial happiness.
Why is it that discussing God with an atheist, is like debating with the devil?
Remember that line, "the devils greatest achievement has been convincing man that God doesn't exist"

Offline Shiranu

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2016, 04:16:43 AM »
Wow, you can't even correctly quote, "The Usual Suspects" most iconic line and you expect to be taken seriously?
"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." - Mahatma Gandi

Offline Shiranu

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2016, 04:19:52 AM »
Say Mr. "Holier than thou Aren't"...

Quote
“…even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness.” (2 Corinthians 11:14–15)


You seem a bit over the top in your righteousness... how do I know the bringing up of the devil wasn't your guilty conscious?
"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." - Mahatma Gandi

Online Mr.Obvious

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2016, 06:00:12 AM »
Remember that line, "the devils greatest achievement has been convincing man that God doesn't exist"




"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.”

He. As in the Devil. Not "HE" as in God.

And he hasn't done a good job. I know he exists. He's nice. We golf every other Sunday.
E = Mc²

In the end, we are all standing in the dark,
trying to figure out why we are here.
But let us not choose one direction
without proof of where it is headed.

Check your pocket for matches
so we can observe and learn together
as fast friends and relative idiots.

Offline Baruch

Re: Demolishing The Messiah Myth
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2016, 06:50:40 AM »
If that was the goal I would go for Mormonism, as they have different levels of celestial happiness.
Why is it that discussing God with an atheist, is like debating with the devil?
Remember that line, "the devils greatest achievement has been convincing man that God doesn't exist"

There is only one G-d, there is no Devil, or G-d is the Devil.  Why are people against arithmetic?  Monotheism means 1 god.  Or do you believe in fallen angels, archangels, etc.  In angelology of old, John the Baptist is a descended watcher named Sandalphon and Jesus is a descended watcher named Metatron ... but not nephelim ... John the Baptist and Jesus were celibate.  The Devil and his trumps aren't celibate, they like human women.  So do I ... so I must be Trumped ;-)
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