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Started by Goon, June 11, 2016, 03:47:49 PM

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marom1963

Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2016, 07:06:40 PM
Let Mother Russia give them some tough love.  At least they are Europeans.  And I am sick and tired of babysitting a bunch of weak socialist layabouts.  No, I wasn't kidding.  Russia marched all the way to Paris in 1814.  They need to do it again in 2016 ... to sort out the German problem and the French problem.  Let the Scots, Irish and Welsh sort out the English problem ;-)  And let there be Czar Putin ... the Russians know how to do that ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PLRmnFOls

The men and women are magnificent ;-)
Actually, I've hoped for a long time that Russia would restore its monarchy - albeit in a constitutional form, w/the czar as a figurehead, though it would be a czaritsa, as the current pretender is a grand duchess ... Though most of Russia is in what is deemed Asia, I think that it should become part of the EU - that would be interesting. I would love to watch that. "Nyet!" would be a constant from Putin. That and "Da - you will!"
OMNIA DEPENDET ...

Baruch

#31
I simply don't understand Russo-phobia either.  If England can have a Queen, I see no reason why Russia can't have a Czar.  Republics aren't a solution ... Stalin and Hitler ran republics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0siryi0QsQ

I love military reviews ... even the Chinese ;-))
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

reasonist

#32
Quote from: Baruch on June 28, 2016, 07:27:46 PM
I simply don't understand Russo-phobia either.  If England can have a Queen, I see no reason why Russia can't have a Czar.  Republics aren't a solution ... Stalin and Hitler ran republics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0siryi0QsQ

I love military reviews ... even the Chinese ;-))

Privilege by birthright? Czar Putin and maybe Erdogan and Kim Jong-un as heirs? 300,000 deaths to get rid of the Romanovs; even the Russians wouldn't go for a repeat. What works well in Russia is 'panem et circenses', cheap Wodka available everywhere. It worked for the Romans and it works for the Russians and maybe even Europeans. I remember vividly 1968 when Soviet tanks rolled into Prague and crushed the 'Prague Spring' and Dubcek was ousted. Too much freedom I guess. schools were closed, panic took over when this all happened 30 miles from home. Hard to forget.
But then again, anything would be better than Sharia.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire

marom1963

Quote from: reasonist on June 29, 2016, 07:13:17 PM
Privilege by birthright? Czar Putin and maybe Erdogan and Kim Jong-un as heirs? 300,000 deaths to get rid of the Romanovs; even the Russians wouldn't go for a repeat. What works well in Russia is 'panem et circenses', cheap Wodka available everywhere. It worked for the Romans and it works for the Russians and maybe even Europeans. I remember vividly 1968 when Soviet tanks rolled into Prague and crushed the 'Prague Spring' and Dubcek was ousted. Too much freedom I guess. schools were closed, panic took over when this all happened 30 miles from home. Hard to forget.
But then again, anything would be better than Sharia.
The British got rid of Charles I - but brought back Charles II. Relative populations, more people died in the Civil War than did in the Russian Revolution ... I would not mind seeing a restoration of the dynasty. The State Funeral that was granted to the Imperial Family when the remains of the slaughtered czar and his family were laid to rest in Peter and Paul was touching and showed that the public still had affection for the Romanovs ... I do favor constitutional monarchy in those countries that are lucky enough to have them ...
OMNIA DEPENDET ...

Baruch

Failure to appreciate the finer points of European culture ... isn't my problem, I am not European.  If one were Austrian, one would think that one would have greater appreciation for one's allies at Austerlitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVgdFteJBw

The French tried to create a united Europe, even before the Germans ;-)
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

reasonist

Quote from: Baruch on June 29, 2016, 08:08:07 PM
Failure to appreciate the finer points of European culture ... isn't my problem, I am not European.  If one were Austrian, one would think that one would have greater appreciation for one's allies at Austerlitz.

The French tried to create a united Europe, even before the Germans ;-)

Good point, although the Russian help didn't work out so well. :-))
I was never into Monarchies, can't buy into the premise that someone not elected should be a ruler over people. Look at Switzerland. The Swiss system is the closest to a fair representation of the people. Stable for a very long time and neutral. No immigration problem and the crime rate is a fraction compared to Germany, France or even Austria. Their political system is a multi party representation and a few plebiscites in between elections for a direct say of the people.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire

Baruch

But what of the history of Switzerland?  Can anyone Tell?  Isolated little villages in narrow valleys, everyone made independent by the geography.  That doesn't happen on great plains, particularly if you have horsemen.  Small town New England

As an American, I of course am skeptical of monarchies.  But I don't mind if other people do it.  Switzerland was one of the models for the US government ... that and the Iroquois Federation and the Dutch Republic.  Greece was mountainous too, so it tended toward anarchic small states.  Once they were done killing each other, their various polities were replaced by Macedonian monarchy.  So which is more stable?  Greece didn't have independence until the 19th century, but a constitutional monarchy at that, until the 1960s.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

reasonist

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire