Islam is a disgrace to life.

[FaithIsFilth]

Muslims are not a problem here in Canada. Some of these countries probably are bringing in a bit more people than they can handle, though, so I understand people in some countries having issues with the immigration. Muslims in Canada are not really causing any problems that I know of, though. Even our terrorists are complete gentlemen. We had two Muslim terrorist attacks in two days, with only soldiers killed and no innocent casualties.

Fuck Islam though. I have voted for a Muslim multiple times and I will again, but after seeing what the mayor of London is doing, I don't blame anyone if they say they would never vote for a Muslim. Letting his disgusting religion get involved with policy and banning certain ads because they "body shame" females. Disgraceful. You can not let your religion influence policy like that.

[drunkenshoe]

Could that be, because Canada is not a direct part of EU or in this sense Western international politics? 

If Canada had any means of benefits and profits tied to the club, Muslims would be making a lot of problems. Just wait for the required political climate shift. You'll see how things will change 180 degrees in a few months under right cricumstances.

Suddenly there will be a 'realisation' among the population how things were really bad, but auhorities have been lying to them for years.

Fuck Islam though. I have voted for a Muslim multiple times and I will again, but after seeing what the mayor of London is doing, I don't blame anyone if they say they would never vote for a Muslim. Letting his disgusting religion get involved with policy and banning certain ads because they "body shame" females. Disgraceful. You can not let your religion influence policy like that.

You are conflicting with yourself. If you are voting for a Muslim then you experienced that he-she can commit to the duty seculary -considering you are not insane, I am guessing that's the case-  without bringing his-her religion, but support others on something ridiculous as vowing on not vote for some person if his religion is a speific one at the other side of the world.

Directly connected to what I wrote up there, have you ever conisdered why this happens in Europe, but not in the Canada? No, not just a space thing.

Do you realise that besides the political-profit games, your country; your people; the culture as a whole has a completely different attitude towards migrants overall?

I personally know several people who emigrated to Canada and they love their country and they are loyal to it. Seriously, you cannot say one word against it. I haven't heard one uttered hatred against Canadians, its culture in any level or some story that would make people say "ah yeah well typical west". I am sure there are lots of unwanted events and I just personally haven't coincided any.


But over all the general impression is that Canada is neither US or nor EU and a far more civilised, secular country and a real country for migrants. It is actually right after Scandinavia in many levels. So there is no comparison with EU, esp with UK.

[FaithIsFilth]

Yeah, Canada is a really nice place and I like the attitude we have towards the people coming in. We are really accepting of different people, but at the same time, there are plenty of people who are not quite as accepting. We still have plenty of assholes. In my own family, you have my father who complains about these people coming in and receiving benefits, and both my parents after the Orlando shooting said that it was the Christian God sending the world a warning and punishing these people for their homosexuality.

As far as me seeing why some would be hesitant to vote for a Muslim, maybe that was a stupid comment by me, but Muslims on average do seem to take their religion more seriously than Christians do. I know there are plenty of Muslims who don't take their religion that seriously at all, but on average, they have a higher religiosity compared to Christians.

[drunkenshoe]

Oh certainly they do. I don't see muslims benign as a religious horde. NEVER.

But there are many other different factors in play why people start to embrace extremism. It's not like that's an easy life. Esp. in a Christian country.

[reasonist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-QX8LuKHA

[Baruch]

America and Europe are different situations.  If Washington DC did to America, what Berlin has done to Europe .. we gonna nuke somebody's ass.

[marom1963]

America and Europe are different situations.  If Washington DC did to America, what Berlin has done to Europe .. we gonna nuke somebody's ass.

What needs to happen - so, it won't happen - is that the EU countries have got to put their collective foot down. They've got to tell their Muslim populations that they must live according to European laws and customs or - get out. There will be no Sharia Law in Europe, like it or not. You can't have it, simple as that.We will not let you live that way here.

[reasonist]

What needs to happen - so, it won't happen - is that the EU countries have got to put their collective foot down. They've got to tell their Muslim populations that they must live according to European laws and customs or - get out. There will be no Sharia Law in Europe, like it or not. You can't have it, simple as that.We will not let you live that way here.

Sweden has started that already. 80,000 immigrants will be deported in the next few weeks. People had enough. Other countries will surely follow.
The rape epidemic has become unbearable, this is the logical consequence. It shows how cultural differences are sometimes insurmountable.
Hopefully the US (and Canada) take to heart what is happening in Europe and learn from that experience.

[marom1963]

Sweden has started that already. 80,000 immigrants will be deported in the next few weeks. People had enough. Other countries will surely follow.
The rape epidemic has become unbearable, this is the logical consequence. It shows how cultural differences are sometimes insurmountable.
Hopefully the US (and Canada) take to heart what is happening in Europe and learn from that experience.

About time. You can't let people come into your house and start breaking up the furniture and not do anything about it.

[Baruch]

What needs to happen - so, it won't happen - is that the EU countries have got to put their collective foot down. They've got to tell their Muslim populations that they must live according to European laws and customs or - get out. There will be no Sharia Law in Europe, like it or not. You can't have it, simple as that.We will not let you live that way here.

But if the majority becomes Muslim, are you then anti-democratic?  What if the first act of democratic Islam is to abolish democracy in favor of Saudi monarchy?  What you say is ... "this is Sparta, not Athens".  Who won that Peloponnesian War anyway?  Sparta did, with Persian assistance.

[reasonist]

But if the majority becomes Muslim, are you then anti-democratic?  What if the first act of democratic Islam is to abolish democracy in favor of Saudi monarchy?  What you say is ... "this is Sparta, not Athens".  Who won that Peloponnesian War anyway?  Sparta did, with Persian assistance.

It certainly seems to be heading that way in Europe. Once Muslims have majority voting power, it will be the last free and democratic election. Sharia will be implemented and common law abolished. We (they) have to end the 'politically correct' bs and name it for what it is. A brutal and very obvious takeover of European values and cultures with it's end goal of their demise. The majority of immigrants don't have the slightest inclination for assimilation. The Koran forbids it as apostasy. Not sure if it is too late already but deport any single males, keep only families who's patriarch has skills useful to the local economy. That way crime, especially rape, is curtailed. Arrest any clerics that propagate hate speech and unrest. Secure the borders and be selective who gets to come in. Stop child support payments after the third child. Maybe this would slow the birth rate and create a more balanced demographic.
Radical? Maybe but I can't see any other solution to curb the influx and lower the crime rate....

[pr126]

I think that Europe has passed the point of no return.

The flood of migrants will not stop. There is no will to stop it anyway.
An economic collapse will trigger some very unpleasant situations.
Socialist welfare and unlimited immigration is unsustainable.

[Baruch]

What Europe needs, is for the US to pull out and Greater Russia to be formed all the way to the Atlantic.  Putin has balls.  Borrow his.

[reasonist]

What Europe needs, is for the US to pull out and Greater Russia to be formed all the way to the Atlantic.  Putin has balls.  Borrow his.

Not sure if you are kidding...two words come to mind instantly: autocracy and corruption. Over half the population in Russia want their communism back. That's not a good sign. Putin has balls all right but he is walking a tight line after Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Because of sanctions the economy is in shambles and the Ruble is sinking. If you would ask western European folks, they would cringe at the idea of a Russian Europe.

[Baruch]

Not sure if you are kidding...two words come to mind instantly: autocracy and corruption. Over half the population in Russia want their communism back. That's not a good sign. Putin has balls all right but he is walking a tight line after Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Because of sanctions the economy is in shambles and the Ruble is sinking. If you would ask western European folks, they would cringe at the idea of a Russian Europe.

Let Mother Russia give them some tough love.  At least they are Europeans.  And I am sick and tired of babysitting a bunch of weak socialist layabouts.  No, I wasn't kidding.  Russia marched all the way to Paris in 1814.  They need to do it again in 2016 ... to sort out the German problem and the French problem.  Let the Scots, Irish and Welsh sort out the English problem ;-)  And let there be Czar Putin ... the Russians know how to do that ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PLRmnFOls

The men and women are magnificent ;-)