So mutually respecful discussion?
I hate to be a bother, but I'm still not too clear on your stance here, as stated earlier in the discussion thread.
If I am claiming a thing and we are discussing it in a format similar to a debate then doesn't that mean that your are claiming the opposite thing, or at least also claiming a thing?
Also; you said I'm claiming a thing and you are testing it, but how can that be if this is a discussion and not a scientific hypothesis with controls? Is not a discussion two sides of the same coin, and as such if I claim one thing and you look to refute that claim, then indeed you are claiming a thing too, be it the opposite of my position or not.
Does this not make logical sense to you? And if not, could you please explain it through your perception that I might better understand how your position is a logical one. I only ask in hopes of honest profitable conversation, as to continue forward without fully understanding one another seems pointless, and dishonesty, even with ones self has the potential to be quite detrimental to the productivity of said conversation.
Lastly, this ironing out seamed necessary, and apropriate as I was to start it off, and really would like there to be an understanding on both our parts prior to continuing.
Peace, thanks for your understanding.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.