Elizabeth Warren Drank The Kool Aid

[marom1963]

Trump has ideals, and he does business for a living.


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Right-leaning ones - which is OK, if you lean to the right. Hillary has left-leaning ones.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

Right-leaning ones - which is OK, if you lean to the right. Hillary has left-leaning ones.

Is one inherently better than the other?


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[marom1963]

Is one inherently better than the other?


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No. It's a matter of the hood ornament that one wants for the nation.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

No. It's a matter of the hood ornament that one wants for the nation.

I see, so you're just racist against orange people like Trump.[emoji13]


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[marom1963]

I see, so you're just racist against orange people like Trump.[emoji13]


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Well, boil them down, and they're both fairly centrist, especially Trump, but Clinton, too. I happen to lean more to the left, so I'd choose a left-leaning hood ornament before I'd choose a right-leaning hood ornament. But, to tell the truth, I won't be devastated if Trump wins. He's still a New Yorker - still a Democrat in Republican clothes - still essentially a centrist.

[marom1963]

We'd've been better off w/a constitutional monarchy. Then our hood ornament could have been royal instead of political. It would have kept the muck off the flag and the vomit where it belongs - in the Congress and the Cabinet. We could have had a sweet old bag that everybody loves, waving at the crowds for our national symbol, instead of a head of state like Dubya. The Founders should have ignored Washington and have gone ahead as planned and invited one of George #3's sons over to be our king. William would have been the perfect choice. Good constitutionalist - and a brood of bastards to choose from to sit on the throne when he croaked.

[Baruch]

Trump has ideals, and he does business for a living.


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Why is being an honest businessman a disqualification?  Why is being a dishonest businessman a disqualification?  I would think the former is a disability in politics, and the latter would be a strong endorsement.  But business of America is Business ... Coolidge.  Of course socialists will disagree, but there are FEMA camps for them.  Of course one doesn't have to a bigoted clown to be a dishonest businessman ... which is why I would hesitate to vote for Trump.

And no, Hillary doesn't get business done.  If she had, then even if it was too late, she would have dropped the 101st Airborne into Benghazi and killed everything that moved ... and if she were Teddy Roosevelt, she would have not only done that, but led from the front.

I don't expect people who aren't White or who aren't male ... to endorse White males ... in today's PC politics, the gays can't vote for Hillary either, unless she comes out as lesbian, with pictures of her with Warren as proof ;-)

[Baruch]

We'd've been better off w/a constitutional monarchy. Then our hood ornament could have been royal instead of political. It would have kept the muck off the flag and the vomit where it belongs - in the Congress and the Cabinet. We could have had a sweet old bag that everybody loves, waving at the crowds for our national symbol, instead of a head of state like Dubya. The Founders should have ignored Washington and have gone ahead as planned and invited one of George #3's sons over to be our king. William would have been the perfect choice. Good constitutionalist - and a brood of bastards to choose from to sit on the throne when he croaked.

Most people don't recognize that Washington pulled a bloodless coup de etat ... in 1787.  Patrick Henry was furious.  Washington wouldn't have made a king, because his family situation didn't have much virility in it.  Same with Franklin and Jefferson.  Adams would have made a good king, he defended the British soldiers accused after the Boston Massacre ... and he had good genes.  His dynasty was the first, 130 years before the Kennedy clan.

It is a difficult technical question, if the HoS should be ceremonial or practical.  Some states have a ceremonial President and a practical PM ... unlike GB where the ceremonial office is inherited, not elected.  The American Revolution was tailor made for Washington, who was the only available candidate with any real experience (who wasn't fighting on the British side).  The Constitution of 1787 was tailor made for Washington, who in effect was the military dictator of the US in 1783, since Congress was bankrupt and there was no SCOTUS.  Like Cincinnatus, he followed the Roman Republic example, dropping the dictatorship and returning to his plantation.  But then was responsible for restoring conservative order since the US of 1783 was a failed state, and accepted the position of Consul.  In Roman republican terms, dictatorship is limited in time, for national emergency only.  That is the problem with modern dictators, is they can't give up the power once the have it.  Even if they go Augustus like Napoleon did, there is always a bridge too far if you don't retire at your peak.

[Baruch]

I see, so you're just racist against orange people like Trump.[emoji13]


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Since Boehner established the style, it seems that orange people are hip ;-)

[Baruch]

Is one inherently better than the other?


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They both involve bombing Brown folk, taking their resources, and pissing the in face of Russia and China.  Really not very good policies ;-(

[stromboli]

[Baruch]

I am OK with women wearing anything they want, or nothing at all ;-)  But I am not OK with sociopaths, no matter what they wear.  We don't need another Messalina or Agrippina (wives of Emperor Claudius).  A Livia would be OK (wife of Augustus) ... she didn't hesitate to kill people who got in her way, and got away with it.

There won't be any true freedom in the US, until we have elected a drag queen ;-)  Too bad Conchita Wurst isn't eligible ;-))

[stromboli]

Tried to find a flattering picture. Best I could do. She and Angela Merkel can rock the room together.

[marom1963]

Most people don't recognize that Washington pulled a bloodless coup de etat ... in 1787.  Patrick Henry was furious.  Washington wouldn't have made a king, because his family situation didn't have much virility in it.  Same with Franklin and Jefferson.  Adams would have made a good king, he defended the British soldiers accused after the Boston Massacre ... and he had good genes.  His dynasty was the first, 130 years before the Kennedy clan.

It is a difficult technical question, if the HoS should be ceremonial or practical.  Some states have a ceremonial President and a practical PM ... unlike GB where the ceremonial office is inherited, not elected.  The American Revolution was tailor made for Washington, who was the only available candidate with any real experience (who wasn't fighting on the British side).  The Constitution of 1787 was tailor made for Washington, who in effect was the military dictator of the US in 1783, since Congress was bankrupt and there was no SCOTUS.  Like Cincinnatus, he followed the Roman Republic example, dropping the dictatorship and returning to his plantation.  But then was responsible for restoring conservative order since the US of 1783 was a failed state, and accepted the position of Consul.  In Roman republican terms, dictatorship is limited in time, for national emergency only.  That is the problem with modern dictators, is they can't give up the power once the have it.  Even if they go Augustus like Napoleon did, there is always a bridge too far if you don't retire at your peak.

HoS = ceremonial. My opinion, anyway. A few essential reserve powers for emergencies. But, then, I favor monarchy ... I believe that Washington would have, too, if he had had a son. Nobody is that much of a saint.

[Mike Cl]

Trump has ideals, and he does business for a living.


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Trump has ideals?? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))  Yeah--if you have it and Trump wants it, it will be his.  His ideal is his bottom line--no matter how he gets it or who he stiffs along  the way--that's why he has 3500 civil laws suits against him--he does not always pay his bills.