"If Youre Liberal and You Think Hillary Clinton Is Corrupt and Untrustworthy..."

[FaithIsFilth]

The thing is, both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are good people, though -- and that's what some seem to be forgetting.

LMAO. Hillary is worse than someone who has raped dozens of children. Hillary is worse than any so called terrorist. Hillary is worse than a serial killer. These people only ruin lives. Hillary ruins entire countries. Good person? Wow.

[stromboli]

There are positives with Hillary. She has been Sec. of State, a Senator and lived in the White House for 8 years. And I'm pretty sure there was a lot of input by her when Bill was the prez. You also get Bill back in the White House. Worked for the DOD under Bill and retired before Obama was elected, so I've seem Repubs and Dems from the DOD window. Bill did a better job than Bush by far. And everybody forgets that he was the last president to balance the budget.

She gets my vote. And as far as "pants on fire" pretty sure The Donald's pants are pure Asbestos.

[widdershins]

I think all politicians are corrupt, untrustworthy, insincere, liars, cheats, cons...the list goes on for a while.  There's no such thing as an honest politician.  Honest people don't stand a chance at the polls.

That being said, it is well established that Republicans have been throwing shit at this particular wall for some years just HOPING some of it would stick.  Much of it ridiculous shit.  They've even blamed her for her husband's infidelity.  America currently has this weird relationship with Republicans where they do something so obviously underhanded that we all know it's underhanded, but they claim it's for some noble purpose and, for some reason, if we call bullshit we're the bad guys, even when some of them admit the underhanded intent.

[Hydra009]

Even if Bernie is a 9 and Hillary is a 6.5, it still doesn't change the fact that he fought for the support of a political party that he simultaneously bashed the entire time.

Not bashed, criticized.  And apparently for good reason.  The DNC picked their candidate before anyone cast a vote.

He is a very good presidential candidate, I still feel, but he is not a democrat.

This precisely sums up the Democratic Party's problem.  Good and democrat should be synonymous, but they're not.

Hillary, in contrast to Bernie seems like a steaming pile of shit because he chose to run for the Democratic nomination and fought so closely.

He went from 1% to nearly matching Clinton in the polls.  1828 pledged delegates to 2203.  And with neither the big donors nor the DNC behind him.  And all this from an avowed socialist to an electorate that disturbingly often confuses democratic socialism with communism or nazism.  What does such a close fight say about the strength of Hillary Clinton's campaign?

So now, because of the "Bernie or bust" people, we might as well start ringing in the bells for Trump's inauguration ceremony now. #trump2016 here we come.

There's still time.  The primaries are just now wrapping up.  In fact, trying to court Sanders supporters while the Sanders campaign is still ongoing might've been a tad presumptuous and off-putting.

Instead of attempting to write hagiography for Clinton, instead I just present her platform, which isn't terribly dissimilar from Sanders.  When Sanders calls it quits, here's another platform that's almost as good.  You'll get way more supporters if you rally behind the platform, not the person.  The Clinton camp has been barking up the wrong tree on that one for a long time now, and I hope they change their strategy before it's too late.

[gentle_dissident]

And also. I feel like continuing to bash Hillary makes our chances much higher for Trump to be elected.

Whose fault is that?

[stromboli]

^Hydra said it better than I could. Sanders as the candidate would win- I have 2 died in the wool, Fox watching Republican sisters that would both vote for him. But personally I think he needs to get behind Hillary now. If he were the VP it would bring in a lot of votes and would solidify the party. Elizabeth Warren has the same level of popularity. Her as VP would also be a win.

[gentle_dissident]

But personally I think he needs to get behind Hillary now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSM

[Baruch]

Guess I'm not a liberal.

Hillary isn't either.  Bernie was ... maybe.

[Baruch]

Whose fault is that?

Yes, if Nader had't run, then Gore would have been Emperor for life!  All hail the hanging Chad!

[Baruch]

^Hydra said it better than I could. Sanders as the candidate would win- I have 2 died in the wool, Fox watching Republican sisters that would both vote for him. But personally I think he needs to get behind Hillary now. If he were the VP it would bring in a lot of votes and would solidify the party. Elizabeth Warren has the same level of popularity. Her as VP would also be a win.

If Warren accepts VP under Hillary ... then she has drunk the Kool-aide ... and she is dead to me.  Bernie would be interesting, but he won't take it ... and Hillary's backers won't let her make that offer.

[Hydra009]

But personally I think he needs to get behind Hillary now. If he were the VP it would bring in a lot of votes and would solidify the party. Elizabeth Warren has the same level of popularity. Her as VP would also be a win.

Yeah.  AFAIK, there are no more primaries left other than D.C., and that's not going to change anything.  He clearly doesn't have the delegates.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

I think the fallout of this election is going to have drastic consequences, regardless of the winner.

[stromboli]

If Warren accepts VP under Hillary ... then she has drunk the Kool-aide ... and she is dead to me.  Bernie would be interesting, but he won't take it ... and Hillary's backers won't let her make that offer.

Actually I don't see EW accepting the offer to be VP. She had/has some specific agendas that would be better served in other areas. Dept. of the Interior? Don't know. Anything that gets a handle on Wall Street and the Dept. of Education. She has been an ardent Bernie backer. We shall see.

[stromboli]

I think the fallout of this election is going to have drastic consequences, regardless of the winner.

Agreed.

[Flanker1Six]

Clinton sucks! 

Trump sucks! 

I said Clinton sucks first!

Well, I said Trump sucks louder!   

MOM!!!!! 

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result than before is what?   

Chumpin' for Trump in '16!

or

Hookers United Horin' for Hillary in '16! 

Johnson/Weld in '16!   

Sorry!   Couldn't help myself!  LOL!