The decline of christian faith in the US

[Solomon Zorn]

While I'm glad to see Christianity on the decline, I am alarmed to see Islam on the rise. If I have to be dominated by a religion, I prefer the hypocrisy of Christianity, to the stifling stranglehold of Islam.

[Baruch]

People rationalize, but they aren't rational.

People objectify, but they aren't empirical.

People are psychological individually, and cultural socially.

Bohemians (cultural minorities) are at odds with the dominant culture, by definition.  But in being from and opposite, they are no more free than a fish is dry.

So we have people going to Star Trek conventions instead of Santiago de Compostela.  Jedi is a recognized religion in GB.  At least some of science fiction is positive and optimistic.  But it has a dark side, where dystopia is the fixed idea rather than utopia.  People like Elon Musk are megalomaniacs, and such people always have a following.  Into an individual delusion swirls the group think, like Jonestown or abolishing currency (as seen on Star Trek).  My sympathies are with the Farengi not the Federation, with Brexit not Schengen.

I read an on-line cartoon, where the heroine is a villain (anti-hero of Euripides), where self-interest, self-defense, personal autonomy are put in a positive light, where the Nietzschean supermen don't withdraw to Colorado, where the technology is more advanced than the trains of Dagny Taggart ... instead all of humanity, special or ordinary, expand across the galaxy, providing the space necessary to allow experimentation and reduce conflict.  A planet for every ideology, including robotically enforced communism, to wild west capitalism.  Lebensraum without aliens to dispossess or enslave.  But I don't mistake it for reality.

[drunkenshoe]

While I'm glad to see Christianity on the decline, I am alarmed to see Islam on the rise. If I have to be dominated by a religion, I prefer the hypocrisy of Christianity, to the stifling stranglehold of Islam.

That's only because in the ocuntry you live, the federal state is the almigthy 'god'. And the rest is playing along two version of a one game.

If one day -hopefully never- if Christianity gets in charge, you could closely observe that there is actually no difference whatsoever at all.

[Baruch]

Chauvinism and jingoism ... can change clothes all they want, but they remain what they are.

[drunkenshoe]

Chauvinism and jingoism ... can change clothes all they want, but they remain what they are.

Well world has a long way to go till even the atheists and seculars get that nationalism is a cult. Doesn't realy matter how you name it. Semantics dipped in politics. EW

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Anybody ever see people acting like Christ?

[Baruch]

Anybody ever see people acting like Christ?

Only homeless people could, and I don't know any of them to be particularly nice ... but then I don't know many of them.  Basically they aren't all right in the head ... which is part of why they are homeless.

[Mike Cl]

Anybody ever see people acting like Christ?

Christ no!

How would than look???  A guy giving away all of his worldly goods--or somebody going into a church and beating up people who put money in the basket--or a guy pitting his mother against his father or brother--or...................?????????????????????????????

[Pipu.Diiding]

Christ no!

How would than look???  A guy giving away all of his worldly goods--or somebody going into a church and beating up people who put money in the basket--or a guy pitting his mother against his father or brother--or...................?????????????????????????????

This dude better be wearing a white long dress walking around investing in people.

Why 'investing' in people?
Because people in the faith subconsciously don't go around just helping people, they expect something in return.

It's just something they do but don't admit.


But then again, if I see a guy wearing a white dress and pretty long hair, Id probably think he's homosexual.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

This dude better be wearing a white long dress walking around investing in people.

Why 'investing' in people?
Because people in the faith subconsciously don't go around just helping people, they expect something in return.

It's just something they do but don't admit.


But then again, if I see a guy wearing a white dress and pretty long hair, Id probably think he's homosexual.

But what about the 12 guys who follow him around, party with him and sleep in the park with him?

[Pipu.Diiding]

But what about the 12 guys who follow him around, party with him and sleep in the park with him?

That's easy, think Snow White and the 7 Dwarves. ;)
Except the dwarves don't have a large house for Snow White to stay in.

[Mike Cl]

But what about the 12 guys who follow him around, party with him and sleep in the park with him?

Wouldn't that be his posse?            Or his fellow escapees from Napa State????

[Pipu.Diiding]

But what about the 12 guys who follow him around, party with him and sleep in the park with him?

I think he should rephrase to
"Sleep with him" in the park.

[Mike Cl]

But what about the 12 guys who follow him around, party with him and sleep in the park with him?

Would that be Macarther's Park?? 

[Pipu.Diiding]

Would that be Macarther's Park??

Depends, does Macarther's Park condone LGBT PDA? To the extend, they don't mind them making love in the park at night?

Note: Jesus and the apostles could be moaning like wolves while making love though. Honestly, if you were the owner of the park, would you allow it?