Jesus--a man of peace?

[Mike Cl]

That is a start.  If the G-d we seek ...................

Yes, that is the start.  I don't seek god or any god.  Once upon a time I did.  Not any more.  If there is a god out there, then he/she/it will have to make itself manifest in my life.  Otherwise god is a fiction.  All that I see, all that I know, suggests that god is not real, but a fiction--on every level.  For me that absence is proof there is no god. 

[reasonist]

A god as my creation, is as cruel as I am ;-(  And have I ever said I worship?  Again, too many stereotypes.

No, not you. Didn't say that. Didn't imply that. No stereotypes. It just makes no sense to worship a deity that is cruel.
A god as your creation? OK. I am a creationist. I believe that man created god.   ;-)))

[Baruch]

No, not you. Didn't say that. Didn't imply that. No stereotypes. It just makes no sense to worship a deity that is cruel.
A god as your creation? OK. I am a creationist. I believe that man created god.   ;-)))

Consider dialectic however ... a relationship can be symmetrical even if unequal.  It isn't just one directional.  Yes indeed, all people are creationists, but we aren't all Creationists.  This is why upper/lower case letters were invented.  And in a sense, the potential isn't real, because it isn't actual.  But isn't that just a metaphysical prejudice?  But without potentiality, there wouldn't be any actuality .. or reality.  In most secular contexts, the potentiality is called "one's nature".  As a human being, I can do many things, potentially.  But I won't actually do all of them.  So then is my unrealized nature ... an unreality?

[Blackleaf]

I agree. It's hard to see in our current state on a global level.

I have witnessed it on a smaller scale though as have others with me.

It's hard to see based on he actions of man.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Isn't funny how the creatures who are created in God's image are the greatest evidence against God's infinitely good nature?

[Mike Cl]

Consider dialectic however ... a relationship can be symmetrical even if unequal.  It isn't just one directional.  Yes indeed, all people are creationists, but we aren't all Creationists.  This is why upper/lower case letters were invented.  And in a sense, the potential isn't real, because it isn't actual.  But isn't that just a metaphysical prejudice?  But without potentiality, there wouldn't be any actuality .. or reality.  In most secular contexts, the potentiality is called "one's nature".  As a human being, I can do many things, potentially.  But I won't actually do all of them.  So then is my unrealized nature ... an unreality?

Nope--just an unused reality.

[popsthebuilder]

Isn't funny how the creatures who are created in God's image are the greatest evidence against God's infinitely good nature?

Think of the substance used

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[21CIconoclast]

popsthebuilder,

What was the "substance" used to create animals by your Hebrew Christian God, Yahweh?  More dust, maybe another rib from the male specie of a certain "kind" of animal?  Whats the latest spin on this, and do you know what kind of "dust" is your ancestor?

Oh, forgot, I have an orange bridge for sale in San Francisco, are you interested? Its a great money maker, and I'll give you good terms!

[marom1963]

It's better that we're made out of dust than made from preceding primates ... Somehow dust is better than primates ... That makes good sense. I like dust. It tells me how long it's been since I did any housekeeping.