Author Topic: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?  (Read 979 times)

Offline Jannabear (OP)

Imo in places like america we need egalitarianism, in places like saudi arabia we need feminism (Not this 3rd wave feminism shit, real feminism), and in places like UK, where 3rd wave feminism has gone mad, we need an MRA movement.
Thoughts?

Offline Baruch

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 02:35:09 AM »
France is the only country to support egalitarianism.  They are the only Western country actively suppressing religion.  English speaking countries all support feral capitalism.  Germany supports feral immigrants.
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Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 06:03:13 AM »
France is the only country to support egalitarianism. 

French supports egalitarianism if it is speaking French and if you are a European.  Same goes with British, German with plus racism...pretty much every continental European culture.

Scandinavian countries by far are the only countries that could be defined as civilised egalitarianist countries on the planet. From migrant rights to the general laws which really counts.

Canada comes after those at the other side of the world. Continental Europe? I would say Netherlands and Belgium, but compared to continental Europe, not Scandinavia.






Offline Jannabear (OP)

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 07:15:55 AM »
French supports egalitarianism if it is speaking French and if you are a European.  Same goes with British, German with plus racism...pretty much every continental European culture.

Scandinavian countries by far are the only countries that could be defined as civilised egalitarianist countries on the planet. From migrant rights to the general laws which really counts.

Canada comes after those at the other side of the world. Continental Europe? I would say Netherlands and Belgium, but compared to continental Europe, not Scandinavia.
Saying someone supports egalitarianism except for these people is like saying someone isnt racist except they hate black people, it makes no sense.

Offline Cavebear

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2016, 08:41:28 AM »
France is the only country to support egalitarianism.  They are the only Western country actively suppressing religion.  English speaking countries all support feral capitalism.  Germany supports feral immigrants.

Wow, you are a Franco-Socialist who still thinks France is the center of the world.  And you hate immigrants!  "Feral Immigrants"?  I am beginning to understand you better now.
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Offline Baruch

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2016, 09:39:54 PM »
You are misreading me ... but I am OK with that.  I was responding to a rather liberal OP, not to some Trump supporter.  And no, I don't support how Germany is handling ME immigrants.  They need to blow them all back to Hell where they came from (but not literally, a nice bus ride to Turkey would be fine).  At least if I were German, I would be strongly Nazi by now, and Jewish too!
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Offline Atheon

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2016, 11:45:29 PM »
Different degrees and forms of feminism are needed in different countries.

In the US, where women have mostly attained equality, it's needed because there are powerful right-wing and religious forces out there who want to roll back the advances and revert women to second-class citizenship.

In Sudan, it's needed because young girls get their clitorises sliced off against their will. Not to mention rape and other forms of oppression.
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Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2016, 12:46:25 AM »
All of them.

Offline Shiranu

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2016, 12:49:05 AM »
All of them.

Beat me to it by a minute...
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Online Mr.Obvious

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2016, 02:58:12 AM »
Justified egalitarianism is welcome in Every country, imho.
And when dealing with justified causes and valid reasons, MRA and feminist pointes are a part of egalitarianism.
And as we live in ever changing (and learning) societies, I think there Will always be Some  necessity for egalitarianism, feminism and MRA. not agreeing with Every point made in their name doesn't take that away.
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Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2016, 03:45:21 AM »

Canada comes after those at the other side of the world. Continental Europe? I would say Netherlands and Belgium, but compared to continental Europe, not Scandinavia.

As a country, i'd dare to say belgium tries to provide decent rights for all and attempts to provide for those who need their basic needs provided for, whilst Aiming for an egalitarian framework. But with a failing and old social system in place and from working with THE minimum provided (as deciding if one should get it or not is part of my job), I couldn't honestly call us a greatest example.

Proverty begets poverty. I see it day by day. No money. No chances. No opportunities. No sympathy  from the working class. No hope. The poor grow more poor still.
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Offline Baruch

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2016, 07:31:22 AM »
Sympathy vs discipline.

In the Roman days when we all had a Pater Familias ... if you didn't work, the Pater Familias would have you beaten for laziness.  He took care of his own, so the Emperor wouldn't have to take care of him.  All societies are based on work, and for some people, all work is slavery (particularly if you are a Patrician).  Of course I am sympathetic to the disabled ... but in olden times they would have died early, because the support network was minimal.  But there is evidence that even Romans took care of their family members (but probably expected them to contribute what they could, not play with their iPhones all day).  The slaves (hired help) didn't get that kind of treatment, they weren't family.  In any society in any age ... woe to you if you have no family.  To some degree, the government can be the family for those people today ... but still contributing to the common good should be required, even if it is only filling pot holes.  The wealthy and powerful will always escape the virtue of work ;-)
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Offline Sal1981

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2016, 11:12:25 AM »
We need egalitarianism everywhere. I look at feminism (real feminists, not the 3rd wave one, which is basically a supremacist movement) and MRA as two sides of the same coin.
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Offline aitm

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 11:30:48 AM »
The argument eventually degrades into specific point by point definitions of what "equal opportunity" means. To some equal opportunity is simply being able to walk into a place of business and apply for a job. To others, it is necessary for equal to be equal that equality must be not just available but measured and handicapped so that each person offers the exact same abilities...albeit with aforementioned handicaps.
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Offline Baruch

Re: In what countries are feminism, MRA, and egalitarianism valid?
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 07:12:38 PM »
The argument eventually degrades into specific point by point definitions of what "equal opportunity" means. To some equal opportunity is simply being able to walk into a place of business and apply for a job. To others, it is necessary for equal to be equal that equality must be not just available but measured and handicapped so that each person offers the exact same abilities...albeit with aforementioned handicaps.

We all have equal opportunity, when we are embryos (mostly, excepting genetic and embryological defects).  We also have equal opportunity when we are corpses (I don't count a big funeral or no funeral at all, to be about the deceased ... it is about the survivors).  Beyond that, America is a piece of lying shit.  At least when Russia is a lying shit, I am less likely to be taken in (being American and all).
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