Author Topic: A Case for Innocence  (Read 3272 times)

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2016, 02:59:54 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This is, of course, much ado about nothing.  If the skirt were off, then it would be simply a rather large bikini--and they would have thought her quite modest then.  Especially for a model.  It is only a matter of a point-of-view, nothing more.
Yes, that is the point I make as well. Hence, the deeper exploration.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2016, 03:01:43 PM by gentle_dissident »

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2016, 03:02:39 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
It's all nonsense. No one can get through a day w/o lying about something. We make ourselves feel better by categorizing most of our lies as "white lies." Nonetheless, we are being dishonest.
Fact is, hypocrisy is the true currency of human society. This has always been so, and I suspect that it will always be so.
Accusations are hurled at this group or at that group - fact is, we're all guilty of something.
Children are NOT innocent. As the least powerful members of society, they are the most in need of lies, cheating, and ruses in general. You may have been naive as a child, my pet, but were you were not honest - be honest about it, pookhums. If you weren't trying to get over on your teachers, you were trying to get over on mom and dad, then later your bosses at your lousy part time job.
I'll repeat myself: the World is a Used Car lot, and we all keep the shiny parts turned out and the dents tucked in.
We're all full of shit - and anyone who says he is not - is really loaded.
I'm so sick of the bull. I'm tired of the "I'm honest" come on. No one's honest. You can't survive by being honest. Somewhere, some time, you've at least got to bend the truth a bit, and you know it.
What's the big deal? It's like being embarrassed at the porn shop when you bump into your neighbor there. Why be embarrassed? Your neighbor's as "guilty" as you are, and the two of you should have a nice chat and maybe swap parts of your collections!
I agree with most of that.  Except, what is 'truth'?  Is it totally objective all the time?  My truth may not be your truth.  That house may be called red by most, except if it is the correct shade (or incorrect shade) it looks green to me.  So, the truth of the color of that house is that it is red---or green.  Both can be true.  "Does this blouse look good on me", my wife asks of her favorite blouse.  I reply "Yes, it looks great!"--except it looks decent, at best.  Yeah, I could tell her that and it would be upsetting for her.  And for her friends who like that blouse on her as well.  So, am I lying when I say 'yes'?  I guess--but I think of it as being smart.   But you are correct, humans do lie quite a bit and about things they don't need to or shouldn't lie about.  So, when I'm asked if I'm honest, I reply usually with--'most of the time.'  And leave it at that.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2016, 03:10:18 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I agree with most of that.

I've been looking forward to your own words.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
what is 'truth'?

What is "is"?

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
"Does this blouse look good on me", my wife asks of her favorite blouse.  I reply "Yes, it looks great!"--except it looks decent, at best.  Yeah, I could tell her that and it would be upsetting for her.

I've never played that game with my GF.

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2016, 06:03:55 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I've never played that game with my GF.
What games do you play with your GF?

I'm curious--what is truth?
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2016, 06:08:40 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
What games do you play with your GF?

We last played a wooden version of Booby-Trap.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm curious--what is truth?

I hope you find it.

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2016, 06:17:53 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
We last played a wooden version of Booby-Trap.

I hope you find it.
Booby-trap (yes, lots of infantile jokes pop up in my head when I type that--but that's just me), I've heard of it but have not played it.  My wife and I like to play Boggle often--the 5 x 5 version.  We especially like it in the back yard (we don't have a blade of grass, but a huge organic veggie/herb/flower/fruit tree garden).  In the spring and fall it is ideal!

Truth--yeah, I guess it is mostly, if not always, relative--if it even exists.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2016, 06:19:25 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Well of course it is, but I think your missing the point, that is assuming I'm reading the add correctly.  The add is a subliminal appeal to the loss of innocence, because the loss of innocence in this case, is that it's fun, exciting, and sexy to call attention to your panties, and supposedly only Calvin Klein can provide the right equipment to do that for you.

Fuck that!  My standards are low, but I do have them...............I'm not wearing panties!    :uchicken:  LOL!

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2016, 07:09:05 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Truth--yeah, I guess it is mostly, if not always, relative--if it even exists.
We discover truths like a scientist discovers laws. The truth is, we've strayed from the discussion of innocence found.

Re: A Case for Innocence
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2016, 07:20:04 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
After I posted this, I thought you might show up to rant about it. Thank you for coming.
You're welcome ... Next time, send an invitation, and I'll do some raving, too.
OMNIA DEPENDET ...

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk