The Donald Stands Alone

[AllPurposeAtheist]

I'm more worried about the split among democrats in the HRC, BS fight which could open the door for a Trump presidency.  There seems to be just too many from both the HRC camp and the BS camps unwilling to back the other. I really wonder just how many Bernie supporters are willing to sit out the election and not vote at all and blame it all on HRC if trump wins..or vica versa..
I was never really ever worried about Cruz winning the general election. He played his hand long ago before he even announced his candidacy.

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I have yet to find a puking emoticon that is spewing enough vomit to properly convey what I feel for America right now.

Cruz would be even worse than Donald. I'm personally glad to see him gone.

[chill98]

I'm more worried about the split among democrats in the HRC, BS fight which could open the door for a Trump presidency. 
I was never really ever worried about Cruz winning the general election. He played his hand long ago before he even announced his candidacy.

I think the number of people, democrat and independent who do not like Clinton are under estimated when thinking about Nov.   The ones who think BOTH sides offer nothing new.

Trump isn't playing the game and stands out as something different.  If he starts acting like a grown-up, he is going to enchant those dem/blue leaning ind's vs Clinton.

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I think the number of people, democrat and independent who do not like Clinton are under estimated when thinking about Nov.   The ones who think BOTH sides offer nothing new.

Trump isn't playing the game and stands out as something different.  If he starts acting like a grown-up, he is going to enchant those dem/blue leaning ind's vs Clinton.

In the primary, Trump's opponents had to dance around his blatant bigotry to avoid offending the base. Clinton will have no such disadvantage, and can go straight for his throat. The sentiments that Trump panders to will not serve him in the general election.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Well, that's one piece of human garbage gone. Now to dump the Donald.

[SGOS]

What was all that talk about the Republican inner circle being out to kill Trump's nomination, whether he numerically won the nomination or not?  Is that still going to happen?  It's a dicey strategy to so openly flaunt the expressed desire of the voters.  I wonder if that was just some rumored hype the media seized onto?

[SGOS]

the Evangelicals either weren't influential enough or behind him in sufficient numbers to bring about his nomination. The takeaway from this for me is that the fundies are losing ground, and this is proof that their power in politics is (hopefully) waning.

I always thought of the evangelicals as a minority in the Republican Party, but a minority that is essential for the party's survival.  Without them, the party speaks panders primarily to the wealthy elite, and that's just not enough to win today.

[SGOS]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-former-rivals-split-on-his-emergence-as-040141384.html

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who had run against Trump earlier in the year, blasted him on Twitter and predicted Trump’s victory would get the party “destroyed” in the general election.

Well, maybe so, but Trump is the choice of the Republican voters.  Cruz is not.  How would nominating one of the guys that voters don't want be any better than nominating the guy they do want?

[Mike Cl]

It depends on how powerful Trump's campaign becomes.  I expect a close (<5 percentage points) election.  As mind-boggling as this is, that guy has incredible support.  And that was as an outsider to the Republican establishment.  After the GOP leadership and party loyalists get behind him, he's going to come at Hillary hard.  And what's more, expect his brand of stink to be the new Republican mainstay for years to come.

Yes, that may be the case.  Trump's weakness may be the apparent support he has.  He also has historic dislike %'s as well.  And if Hillary can build those dislike numbers, then it may be a cakewalk.  Or not......................

[stromboli]

Cruz represented something specific, a Dominionist with biblical aspirations. Donald has no specific agenda other than pushing the buttons that make his set group, the white "majority" (which no longer exists) flock to his banner. If the unions gather behind Hillary along with people not of the white fold, feminists and certainly Hispanics, Hillary can win.

We shall see. Much left to be settled. but don't count The Donald out, flim flam still sells in the U. S. 

[SGOS]

Cruz represented something specific, a Dominionist with biblical aspirations. Donald has no specific agenda other than pushing the buttons that make his set group, the white "majority" (which no longer exists) flock to his banner. If the unions gather behind Hillary along with people not of the white fold, feminists and certainly Hispanics, Hillary can win.

We shall see. Much left to be settled. but don't count The Donald out, flim flam still sells in the U. S. 

We know he's good at tapping into the desires of the conservative voters.  Next, he has to appeal to the liberals.  If he can, then he gets to do whatever he wants, and at that point, I have no idea what to expect.  We know he can amass a fortune, and bully for that.  According to a blurb I heard on NPR a while back, everything he touches doesn't turn to gold, and much of his fortune, as is the case with the rest of Corporate America, has been amassed by the deep pockets of the government.  One of his casinos now headed towards bankruptcy, was built on outrageous promises of backing that convinced a local board to help fund his project.  The backing never came.  He scaled back his plans, took a bunch of government revenue, and built a failing project.  But of course, most of the money came from taxpayers.  It's hard to imagine him as a statesman working for the good of others.  I don't expect him to help America much.  But then, few politicians help much.  Nothing that I know about him signals anything positive for the commoners or the middle class.  So far his promises that appealed to Republicans are just pipe dreams.  He's good at selling himself.  Beyond that, I don't see much of anything else.

[Hydra009]

What was all that talk about the Republican inner circle being out to kill Trump's nomination, whether he numerically won the nomination or not?  Is that still going to happen?

They tried.  Clearly, it didn't work and now they're stuck with him.  Their main problem was that the vote was split among several fundie candidates and they wouldn't drop out to pool their votes with one candidate until it was too late.

[Hydra009]

Yes, that may be the case.  Trump's weakness may be the apparent support he has.  He also has historic dislike %'s as well.  And if Hillary can build those dislike numbers, then it may be a cakewalk.  Or not......................

Hillary has rather large disapproval numbers herself.  Although not as bad as Trump, it's still bad.  Dems need to wake up and smell the coffee.  This isn't going to be a cakewalk.  And although Trump's primary rhetoric was terrible, it wasn't directed at us.  Expect him to run to the center and to do a fairly convincing job of it.  If Hilary doesn't get broader appeal, she might even lose this race and give us Supreme Leader Trump.

[stromboli]

We know he's good at tapping into the desires of the conservative voters.  Next, he has to appeal to the liberals.  If he can, then he gets to do whatever he wants, and at that point, I have no idea what to expect.  We know he can amass a fortune, and bully for that.  According to a blurb I heard on NPR a while back, everything he touches doesn't turn to gold, and much of his fortune, as is the case with the rest of Corporate America, has been amassed by the deep pockets of the government.  One of his casinos now headed towards bankruptcy, was built on outrageous promises of backing that convinced a local board to help fund his project.  The backing never came.  He scaled back his plans, took a bunch of government revenue, and built a failing project.  But of course, most of the money came from taxpayers.  It's hard to imagine him as a statesman working for the good of others.  I don't expect him to help America much.  But then, few politicians help much.  Nothing that I know about him signals anything positive for the commoners or the middle class.  So far his promises that appealed to Republicans are just pipe dreams.  He's good at selling himself.  Beyond that, I don't see much of anything else.

Not as hard to amass a fortune when you inherit millions from your dad. He has also declared bankruptcy a few times. What bothers me most about Trump is that he puts himself ahead of any other agenda, including environmental ones. I truly fear he would blow off Global Warming as president, along with other needful issues.

[Mike Cl]

Hillary has rather large disapproval numbers herself.  Although not as bad as Trump, it's still bad.  Dems need to wake up and smell the coffee.  This isn't going to be a cakewalk.  And although Trump's primary rhetoric was terrible, it wasn't directed at us.  Expect him to run to the center and to do a fairly convincing job of it.  If Hilary doesn't get broader appeal, she might even lose this race and give us Supreme Leader Trump.

What does scare me is that America seems to revel in being stupid.  The Stupid Fucking Americans are large in number and like the theists, reasons and logic don't exist in their heads.  So, yeah, Hillary does need to pay attention and run a good campaign.