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Hobbies and Photos / Re: The Poetry Thread
« Last post by Solomon Zorn on Today at 07:59:38 AM »
All of the above a very nice.
Choosing fire or choosing ice.
Or an albatross or a snowy woods.
But I prefer Seuss.
"Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening," is my favorite Robert Frost poem.

My all-time favorite poem, though is this one: "Richard Cory," by Edwin Arlington Robinson.
Hobbies and Photos / Re: The Poetry Thread
« Last post by Solomon Zorn on Today at 07:51:58 AM »
No reply is possible.   I stand in awe and sadness.  Tipping a hat would be insufficient and weak.  I bow.
Thanks, Brother. The first two people that I read it to, in person, got visibly choked-up, at the end.
Film, Music, Sports, and more / Re: YES
« Last post by Solomon Zorn on Today at 07:39:46 AM »
It's 2 minutes past sunrise on Sunday, and as usual, I'm listening to my "YES Church" playlist: 4 hours of my favorite YES songs.
Simple math: the US is spending 18% of it's GDP on health care with miserable results. The countries with universal healthcare spend around 10-11% of their GDP and EVERYBODY is covered for EVERYTHING! In numbers, the US would safe 1.4 trillion dollars a year with the same concept.
Too bad for insurance companies and their shareholders. Taking care of the sick should never be a 'business' in the first place!
I wish there was an option here to put all your posts into "ignore".
The "ignore" button, is located in the top right corner of your frontal lobe. Just don't read his posts, or at least don't respond. If you feed the stray cat, it will keep coming back to your door.
Hello, guys.

I am new to the forums and would like to introduce myself.

I'm a religious researcher.

I recently finished writing a book regarding religious matters, with a huge potential to cause a stir, and since I know that due to my proposal I will be attacked by fundamentalist zealots and blind believers, I'm working on building contacts with open minded people who could support me in this enterprise.

I’ll be honest with you, I’m not exactly an atheist. The reason why I’m here is because I do prefer an honest atheist than a hypocrite believer. It is impossible to argue with blind believers when it is about questioning religious dogmas.

I'll later start a discussion about my book. I'm trying to get it published.
Keep in touch if you feel interested. I have plans to give away the book for free in places like this forum.
Thank you!

PS: I've read the RULES and I know about the advertising restrictions. I DID NOT COME HERE TO ADVERTISE NOR TO SELL ANYTHING!
Welcome to the forum.

Since you have labeled yourself a "religious researcher," I'm immediately curious about your background / education.
General Discussion / Re: Being of low intelligence (among other things)
« Last post by Cavebear on Today at 06:28:28 AM »
Absolutely, patently false.

I agree.  Getting mental health assistance is just the same as getting physical health assistance.  Professionals know what they are doing.
General Discussion / Re: I, too, noticed this a while back:
« Last post by Cavebear on Today at 06:22:35 AM »
General Discussion / Re: Questions about getting a phd
« Last post by Cavebear on Today at 06:19:23 AM »
Ok, I'll give you the rundown of my education so far:

Prior to last semester, I had a 3.74 GPA. Last semester I made a C in my first computer science class and shot my GPA down to a 3.48. I suppose I can always retake this class and get it back up there.

I'm currently at CC, and my state's CCs have a program that, if you complete the associate of science degree, it will transfer seamlessly as a junior to virtually all public (and some private) universities in the state.

Recently, the head of the computer science department at a university in my state visited our computer science class and spoke about his school and their program. The school itself is not particularly renowned (though it's a perfectly good school), but their school of computer science is very highly renowned. They offer the only undergraduate degree in bioinformatics (the field I'm interested in) in the state. They award full scholarships to students who complete the transfer degree program with a qualifying GPA. Mine is sufficient. I only have 8 more courses counting the ones I'm taking this semester to graduate with my associates degree. Then I'll be transferring.

My dream school is Vanderbilt. This is the school I'm aiming for for grad school. The head of the computer science department of the university mentioned above has two phds from Vanderbilt. He personally tries to help high achieving students get there, and I believe that if I make it clear to the department heads what my goals are, and do very well, they will help me to achieve it.

Of course the damning dark spot on my record will be the horrendous experience I had on my first college attempt back when I first started college. I flunked nearly everything, taking some classes several times and never passing them. I made no progress and it was just a complete failure of unbelievable proportions. I took a four-year gap and started at my current college. Since then my grades have been good.

So, what do you think? Go for it, or give up the dream?

Go for it.  Persistence is worthwhile.  Universities are good at forgiving early grade problems because young adults change.  When I went back to the State University after 20 years, they eliminated my early failures with the stroke of a pen.  "Like it never happened" as one commercial says.

I took hard seminar classes with dedicated seniors and some grad students in the classes and sailed right through.  I was actually "the smartest guy in the room" in spite of having been kicked out 20 years earlier for poor grades.  I was a poor student the first time around; I changed. 

What they care about is "What can you learn now?".

What degree you get is determined by what you want.  I wanted a BS in Government and Politics and I got it.  I could have gone farther without much effort, but I didn't feel a need to do that.

And don't mistake a degree for knowledge.  You can have either or both.

A brief story as evidence...  At a Thanksgiving dinner, I was seated across the table from some guy I knew nothing about.  A bit of conversation regarded human migration to North America and we ended up talking for 2 hours.  He assumed I had a PhD on the subject.  Unknown to me, he was the Anthropology Chair at a State University.  And my brother in law's brother.  LOL! 

He was so shocked that I "only" had a BS in Government and Politics that he bugged my sister for the 3 days he stayed there to make sure I wasn't kidding him.  He said I knew more than most of his grad students.  Well, I'm an avid amateur.  Which is why I mention that knowledge and degrees aren't exactly the same.

So do you want the degree or the knowledge?  Knowledge is easier to acquire.
Religion General Discussion / Re: Goddidit Vs Naturedidit
« Last post by Cavebear on Today at 05:44:45 AM »
Since the spherical shape was the most widely supported during the Greek Era, efforts to determine its size followed. Plato determined the circumference of the Earth (which is slightly over 40,000 km) to be 400,000 stadia (between 62,800 and 74,000 km or 46,250 and 39,250 mi) while Archimedes estimated 300,000 stadia (48,300 km or 30,000 mi), using the Hellenic stadion which scholars generally take to be 185 meters or  1⁄10 of a geographical mile. Plato's figure was a guess and Archimedes' a more conservative approximation.[/i]

Copernicus first proposed the earth wasn't the center of the solar system and he did buck the religious orthodoxy of the time but he was hardly and atheist. Not long ago big bang cosmology offended the orthodoxy in our time. 

I do trust the scientific method of truth and fact finding. Its not a scientific fact that:
Its naturalistic forces all the way down
That naturalistic forces did cause themselves to exist
That naturalistic forces could cause themselves to exist.
That naturalistic forces alone could cause a universe with laws of physics that would ultimately allow sentient life.
That time always existed.
That there are other universes.

The reality is neither science nor human knowledge knows the big ticket answers to the most basic philosophical questions we can ask. Why are we here? How did our existence come about? Why is there something rather than nothing? Was it planned or happenstance? Opinions abound among us in this forum buts facts are hard to come by. Do I agree we should continue to pursue those answers employing the scientific method? Absolutely. Let the chips fall where they will.

Eratosthenes, a Greek librarian, determined the earth's circumference to be 40,250 to 45,900 kilometers (25,000 to 28,500 miles) by comparing the Sun's relative position at two different locations on the earth's surface.  A simple matter of geometry.  I love that guy!

Of your other questions, we can't know the answers but can make some better guesses than theisms.  We are here because we have preceeding simpler forms that became more complex.

Time exists beyond our mere perception.

Natural forces don't need  cause, intent, or direction. 

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