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Title: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 09:58:07 PM
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/115-million-verdict-in-hulk-hogan-sex-tape-lawsuit-could-wipe-out-gawker/

Good riddance to that shitty network of unethical clickbait glorified blogs. Now if he could kill buzzfeed next...
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 10:00:17 PM
Bonus of lulzy pictures.
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 10:02:13 PM
Moar
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 10:03:36 PM
And moar
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 10:04:54 PM
And moar
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: Shiranu on March 19, 2016, 10:15:08 PM
Buzzfeeds YouTube is hilarious, they better go no where.

Also... Who the fuck wants to watch that?
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 19, 2016, 10:15:08 PM
Buzzfeeds YouTube is hilarious, they better go no where.

Also... Who the fuck wants to watch that?

In the trial they had to argue how was hulk hogan's cock newsworthy. The trial was livestreamed it was hillarious watching hack journos squirm.
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 10:39:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CQ5qgvu.jpg)

Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: Hydra009 on March 19, 2016, 11:51:09 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 19, 2016, 10:15:08 PM
Buzzfeeds YouTube is hilarious, they better go no where.
Yeah, I love the videos where people eat snacks from other countries.  Like Americans trying Canadian snacks.  That's great.

But the gawker articles are terrible (http://rankings.gawker.com/assassinations-ranked-in-order-1469061264) and can go diaf though.
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: GSOgymrat on March 20, 2016, 12:18:45 AM
Quote from: mauricio on March 19, 2016, 09:58:07 PM
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/115-million-verdict-in-hulk-hogan-sex-tape-lawsuit-could-wipe-out-gawker/

Good riddance to that shitty network of unethical clickbait glorified blogs. Now if he could kill buzzfeed next...

Mauricio, given your many posts against censorship and for online speech I'm a bit surprised you side against Gawker on this issue. I don't side with Gawker, your post was just unexpected.


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/19/hulk-hogan-lawsuit-win-takedown-gawker

... But Denton’s attempts to apply extreme openness to others could cost the ruin of his company. Like the jurors in Florida, the public is now far less likely to side with the media over privacy issues. It’s an empathetic shift, some argue, that has come from having to manage public and private identities on and offline.

“The public has seen the damage that online speech can do, and is getting sick of the media and becoming very pro-privacy,” said Samantha Barbas, a law professor at the University at Buffalo. “The public is becoming disenchanted with freedom of speech and this verdict is a reflection of that.”
 
New laws prohibiting “revenge porn”, or growing calls for “the right to be forgotten” are signals of the same shift, she said.

Last month, US sportscaster Erin Andrews was awarded $55m against Marriott Hotels, after a Tennessee jury found the chain had not protected her from being filmed in the shower by a stalker. Last week, a Pennsylvania man pleaded guilty and now faces five years in prison for dumping a trove of nude celebrity images, some including actor Jennifer Lawrence, in 2014 â€" an event now thought of as a turning point in attitudes toward celebrity privacy.

Throughout the Hogan trial, Denton maintained Hogan’s sexual activities were of legitimate public interest. “We believed the story had value,” Denton said. “That it was true, that it was a story honestly told, and that it was interesting to millions of people.”
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 20, 2016, 12:36:29 AM
Give it time and yelling FIRE in a crowded movie theater will be protected speech. The problem is we elect very lazy legislators who will take the easy way every time if it means a shitload of campaign cash and even lazier without the cash.
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: mauricio on March 20, 2016, 12:45:28 AM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on March 20, 2016, 12:18:45 AM
Mauricio, given your many posts against censorship and for online speech I'm a bit surprised you side against Gawker on this issue. I don't side with Gawker, your post just unexpected.


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/19/hulk-hogan-lawsuit-win-takedown-gawker

... But Denton’s attempts to apply extreme openness to others could cost the ruin of his company. Like the jurors in Florida, the public is now far less likely to side with the media over privacy issues. It’s an empathetic shift, some argue, that has come from having to manage public and private identities on and offline.

“The public has seen the damage that online speech can do, and is getting sick of the media and becoming very pro-privacy,” said Samantha Barbas, a law professor at the University at Buffalo. “The public is becoming disenchanted with freedom of speech and this verdict is a reflection of that.”
 
New laws prohibiting “revenge porn”, or growing calls for “the right to be forgotten” are signals of the same shift, she said.

Last month, US sportscaster Erin Andrews was awarded $55m against Marriott Hotels, after a Tennessee jury found the chain had not protected her from being filmed in the shower by a stalker. Last week, a Pennsylvania man pleaded guilty and now faces five years in prison for dumping a trove of nude celebrity images, some including actor Jennifer Lawrence, in 2014 â€" an event now thought of as a turning point in attitudes toward celebrity privacy.

Throughout the Hogan trial, Denton maintained Hogan’s sexual activities were of legitimate public interest. “We believed the story had value,” Denton said. “That it was true, that it was a story honestly told, and that it was interesting to millions of people.”


I don't neccesarily agree with the court decision since i have not looked at it deeply, so i do not know what the actual arguments were. But honestly it does not stop me from enjoying the schadenfraude, kind of like that "activist" bahar mustafa that got in legal trouble for tweeting #killallmen and her racist statements about white people. I think hate speech laws are bullshit and defend her right to be a shithead, but god it felt good to see her hoisted up on her own petard. I do think publishing private sextapes is unethical, but of course we could think of various scenarios where the ethics get into a gray area when the tape is of public interest, but you still have to try to minimize harm and breach of privacy. So it definitly is a more nuanced discussion around the ethics of publishing sextapes and the different factors that go into it and that is separate from what the actual laws should be too. But currently im just celebrating the destruction of a network that has contributed to the corruption of the very important profession of journalism.  And having gawker be finally held accountable in some way for the bullshit they have pulled is satisfying.
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: GSOgymrat on March 20, 2016, 12:59:50 AM
I wonder if nude photos of Donald Trump were leaked whether they would be considered of legitimate public interest given he insinuated he was well endowed in a televised national presidential debate.

I certainly hope my musings never become reality.
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: Hydra009 on March 20, 2016, 02:04:38 AM
Quote from: mauricio on March 20, 2016, 12:45:28 AMthe very important profession of journalism
Now there's a phrase I haven't heard for a long time.  :P
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: drunkenshoe on March 20, 2016, 04:51:09 AM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on March 20, 2016, 12:18:45 AM
Mauricio, given your many posts against censorship and for online speech I'm a bit surprised you side against Gawker on this issue. I don't side with Gawker, your post was just unexpected.

That's because of Gawker taking sides with SJWs in GamerGate. It's 'the enemy'. It has nothing to do with Hulk Hogan's sex tape. It's about supporting his MRA team. He just saw the name Gawker. If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't even notice the Hogan case. :lol:







Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: Baruch on March 20, 2016, 09:01:59 AM
There was a trial years ago, where a Texas jury found over $1 billion damage against Texaco (an oil company), that basically put them out of business.

While I approve of private lawsuits (this being better than assassination teams) ... I am surprised nobody commented on whether the jury award amount is excessive or not.
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: SGOS on March 20, 2016, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 20, 2016, 09:01:59 AM
I am surprised nobody commented on whether the jury award amount is excessive or not.

After that woman sued McDonalds when she spilled coffee on herself, my attitude toward excessive jury awards is not to expect a jury award to make sense.  Often times, the judge has some power to reset the amount of the award.  Not that I have a better solution to this situation, which I care little about to begin with.  Should I care?
Title: Re: $115 million verdict in Hulk Hogan sex-tape lawsuit could wipe out Gawker
Post by: Baruch on March 20, 2016, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: SGOS on March 20, 2016, 09:16:25 AM
After that woman sued McDonalds when she spilled coffee on herself, my attitude toward excessive jury awards is not to expect a jury award to make sense.  Often times, the judge has some power to reset the amount of the award.  Not that I have a better solution to this situation, which I care little about to begin with.  Should I care?

Conservatives of course, would ban all private lawsuits, particularly class action lawsuits.  They despise common people, especially on juries.  They much prefer pre-biased jurists who went to the same Ivy League school as they did.  On the other hand, there is general unfairness in the amount of award ... maybe we should just declare corporate execution for corporate persons (the SCOTUS fiction)?  That way we would have uniformity for malfeasance, even if Draconian.  Then again, today we don't bother to prosecute malfeasant business executives, we fine their company, the government gets the award rather than the damaged party, and the corporation takes the fine off of their income taxes (if they bother to pay any).