I prefer the 24 hour clock ( in the USA is often know as the military clock). Do you guys prefer the 12 hour clock or the 24 hour clock? The 24 hour clock is the best.
I prefer the mistake free 24hr clock too.
I used to use the 24 hour style when I was younger, but somehow slipped out of it.
I prefer the 24 hr. clock too. And I prefer no daylight savings, too.
I use the 12 hour clock because that's what everyone else uses. When you tell a woman you will pick her up for a date at "1900 hours", it will weird her out, and you don't want to weird a woman out, especially on a first date. But the 24 hour clock is superior, and has several advantages.
It's less confusing; Think about setting the alarm on your phone. How many times have you set the hour and the minute, but forgot to do the AM/PM part because you assumed it was set to AM?
It is a bit more useful for computer programming tasks, which granted, does not affect a lot of people.
Who ever thought up the 12 hour concept didn't think it all the way through. Why would you have the same designation for two totally different times every day? Sure, you can go through the extra step of designating AM or PM, but that's not very mathematically elegant.
I agree . The 24 hour clock is less confusing. There isn't any confussion for example with 7 am vs 7 pm. The hours after 18:00 are night hours . The first 6 hours of the day are part of the night hours. Most people in the USA aren't used with the 24 hour system. I always set my casio g shock watches with the 24 hour display.
The 24 hour clock is better, as is the metric system.
I'm good with either. Liked the 24 hour clock in the Navy, but trying to explain it to people who don't use it is not worth the effort, so I generally refer to civilian time when asked. Zulu time? forget about it. :naughty:
I prefer the 12-hour clock, as it's what I was immersed in growing up in the US and am surrounded by in the American-English speaking part of the world.
Here in Taiwan people use the 12-hour clock when speaking, but in print and written form (business hours, showtimes, appointment times etc.) times are invariably written in the 24-hour form. I hate having to "do the math" each time (simple though it may be) to translate it into the 12-hour form I'm used to. It sucks when I misread 15:00 as 5:00 pm.
It's worse in Thailand: they have a 6-hour clock with 4 time periods in the day. 8:00 p.m. is song thum--"two thumps (of the dharma drum)"--recalling the timing system used by monks.
24 hour.
I like clock faces, infact I've got an intrest in steampunk design, gears and clock designs.. but in terms of practically, a 24 hour digital clock has never failed me, and it doesn't tick either.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 24, 2015, 09:17:20 AMThe 24 hour clock is better, as is the metric system.
Emphatically agreed. And yes, no DST. Mistake-free scheduling plus sane units and measurements would be so nice. I'm so sick of mixed units in the US.
Quote from: Munch on February 24, 2015, 10:03:21 AM
24 hour.
I like clock faces, infact I've got an intrest in steampunk design, gears and clock designs.. but in terms of practically, a 24 hour digital clock has never failed me, and it doesn't tick either.
Totally agree. even old me thinks Steampunk is awesome.
(http://www.biwatercooler.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Steampunk.jpg)
Twenty years in the USN, sometimes I never saw the sky for days at a time. Without military time I couldn't tell if I was missing a sunny day or a starry night.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on February 24, 2015, 12:09:02 PM
Twenty years in the USN, sometimes I never saw the sky for days at a time. Without military time I couldn't tell if I was missing a sunny day or a starry night.
Sounds like a Machinist.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 24, 2015, 09:17:20 AM
The 24 hour clock is better, as is the metric system.
Eh I prefer Imperial Standard. You can half, quater, third, etc inches and feet, unlike metric.
I prefer 24 hour time. I use it on all my personal time keeping devices. Though, I translate it without a thought when speaking to nasty ass civilians in situations where 24 hour time is not expected.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 24, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
Eh I prefer Imperial Standard. You can half, quater, third, etc inches and feet, unlike metric.
It can be a quarter to four, or a quarter after four. Some people say a quarter OF four. But I don't know what that means.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 24, 2015, 12:40:51 PMEh I prefer Imperial Standard. You can half, quater, third, etc inches and feet, unlike metric.
It's still all over the map. 12 inches in a foot. 3 feet in a yard. 1760 yards in a mile. And that's just distance. Let's face it, if this wasn't a system we were born into, it'd never make sense. Hell, I've been using it all my life and it still seems pretty screwy.
(http://www.aonghascrowe.com/storage/Oatmeal_comic_2.JPG.scaled1000.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1369523633793)
And while we're at it, I propose abolishing commas in large numbers. Use spaces or use scientific notion or GTFO.
1000000 = 1 000 000 = 10^6
Metric is so much better it's ridiculous that we don't use it everywhere. I had a Fiat (metric) and a Pontiac I needed screws for of different sized, It took me about 15 minutes to find the right ones for the Pontiac, and just a glance to find the metrics, and the display was 4 times bigger trying to find the ones for the Pontiac. And 24hr time is better if you are a moll. :eek: :biggrin:
It doesn't make much sense to divide the day in 2 periods of 12 hours. There is 24 hours in a day. So counting the hours in the 24 hour format makes the most sense. The ancient romans and jews counted the hours in 2 periods of 12 hours from sunset to sunset. But it was very inaccurate because the sunset hour change during the year. The sunset is later in the summer .The sunset is earlier in the last months of the year .
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 24, 2015, 01:57:53 PM
It's still all over the map. 12 inches in a foot. 3 feet in a yard. 1760 yards in a mile. And that's just distance. Let's face it, if this wasn't a system we were born into, it'd never make sense. Hell, I've been using it all my life and it still seems pretty screwy.
(http://www.aonghascrowe.com/storage/Oatmeal_comic_2.JPG.scaled1000.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1369523633793)
I'm not saying it's always better to use imperial standard, just that I prefer using it. WHY CAN'T YOU LET ME MAKE THINGS HARD FOR MYSELF???? lol
Quote from: leo on February 24, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
It doesn't make much sense to divide the day in 2 periods of 12 hours. There is 24 hours in a day. So counting the hours in the 24 hour format makes the most sense. The ancient romans and jews counted the hours in 2 periods of 12 hours from sunset to sunset. But it was very inaccurate because the sunset hour change during the year. The sunset is later in the summer .The sunset is earlier in the last months of the year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Well fuck. I guess I'm now for the use of decimal time.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 24, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
Eh I prefer Imperial Standard. You can half, quater, third, etc inches and feet, unlike metric.
So you prefer the 12 hour or the 24 hour clock?
The decimal clock looks cool.
Quote from: leo on February 24, 2015, 07:32:43 AM
I prefer the 24 hour clock ( in the USA is often know as the military clock). Do you guys prefer the 12 hour clock or the 24 hour clock? The 24 hour clock is the best.
I prefer the 24 hour system having spent 13 years in the military. I set all my clocks to the 24 hour system (except those antique clocks that cannot be reset) and have no problem switching back and forth between them so if I am dealing with most people I use the 12 hour clock (obviously I live in the US).
Robert
Either is fine for me except when my brain suddenly can't subtract 12 for reasons unknown.. I've always wondered why the clock can't be metric with 10 hours, 100 minutes, 100 seconds, etc.. I once designed and made such a face for a clock, but the movements are all designed for 12 and 24..the second hand never landed on the right indices.. Perhaps I should have used a continual movement..
Wwll duh..just saw the decimal clock.. We need decimal threads so I don't have to click on the next page..
I can't sleep with the ticking of a 12 hour regular clock, and it's easier to instantly recognize the time in the morning.
I use the 24 hour clock on my phone for instance when setting the alarm or alerts but if im meeting my pal at 14.00 hours ill say, meet me at 2 etc......
Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 24, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
Eh I prefer Imperial Standard. You can half, quater, third, etc inches and feet, unlike metric.
You can half a meter. It's called half-a-meter (or a half-meter).
But I guess it's what you're used to.
Btw, I usualy prefer 24-hour clock in talking with others and on my phone. But I like my watches and clocks in 12-hour style.
24 hour clock. No question what time of day you mean.
And while we're at it, do away with daylight savings.
Quote from: trdsf on April 26, 2015, 03:33:31 AM
24 hour clock. No question what time of day you mean.
And while we're at it, do away with daylight savings.
I FUCKING hat daylight savings. What the hell does it save???? Nothing--it costs us money and productivity every time!
I'm not a fan of the decimal clock. 12 is already better than 10 (http://"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6xJfP7-HCc") as a base, why would we switch the one system we have that actually uses it?
I'm retired, don't need no stinking clocks, and I especially don't need an alarm clock.
Quote from: Feral Atheist on April 26, 2015, 10:51:01 AM
I'm retired, don't need no stink clocks, and I especially don't need an alarm clock.
I don't need an alarm clock either--except I have two of them, wrapped in fur. They know when 5 am rolls around and then, so do I.
I'm in the USA, I always use the 24hr clock.
Quote from: wolf39us on April 27, 2015, 08:39:43 AM
I'm in the USA, I always use the 24hr clock.
Quote from: Mike Cl on April 26, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
I don't need an alarm clock either--except I have two of them, wrapped in fur. They know when 5 am rolls around and then, so do I.
I usually have to wake my fur wrapped alarm clock up when I get up (he's almost 12) and if he has a need and gets me up with a need, he also wants to go back to bed.
Quote from: Feral Atheist on April 27, 2015, 08:03:54 PM
I usually have to wake my fur wrapped alarm clock up when I get up (he's almost 12) and if he has a need and gets me up with a need, he also wants to go back to bed.
My two guys are young--2/3 yrs old, so I guess I'm stuck with the 5 am wake up call for quite some time. I guess it doesn't help that as soon as I get up we go for our mile jaunt.
Quote from: SGOS on February 24, 2015, 01:15:43 PM
It can be a quarter to four, or a quarter after four. Some people say a quarter OF four. But I don't know what that means.
Although I prefer the 24 hr clock and have no trouble translating back and forth. When someone says it is "a quarter of some hour" it simply means 15minutes before the hour.
What confuses me is someone says "half 4" I have no idea whether it means half past an hour or another 30 minutes before some hour.
You have 24 hour clocks when you are a global enterprise, like the military or a multi-national corporation. No other way to synchronize people.
I have no problem with either and get quite frustrated with those that can grasp it's simplicity. But I must admit I get more annoyed at people that cannot understand the equal simplicity of using the clock for directions..."check out that shit at 8:30.....wut?....really dude?
Quote from: aitm on November 13, 2016, 10:14:49 PM
I have no problem with either and get quite frustrated with those that can grasp it's simplicity. But I must admit I get more annoyed at people that cannot understand the equal simplicity of using the clock for directions..."check out that shit at 8:30.....wut?....really dude?
https://youtu.be/rUHZZwuybiY?t=19s (https://youtu.be/rUHZZwuybiY?t=19s)
(Indiana jones plane dogfighting o'clock joke)
12-hour. With a 24-hour clock, I always have to do the math.
I even missed a flight once because I saw 18:00 and thought 8:00.
Quote from: Atheon on November 13, 2016, 10:47:46 PMWith a 24-hour clock, I always have to do the math.
Only if you've internalized the 12-hour clock and have to convert the 24-hour time to 12-hour format to understand it. When you've internalized a 24-hour clock, you no longer need to convert unless someone else is supplying 12-hour times.
Didn't take me long to adapt to the military time-keeping system, I just had to remember to add 13.
Or was it subtract 13?
24 hour clocks are more logical to me. We are used to 12, and it seems logical to have 3:30 happen twice a day, but it's hardly logical at all, and it's cumbersome. 3:30 in the afternoon or at night? Easy fix, just add AM or PM to the time, but why add extra data just to make a cumbersome system more cumbersome to be useable. And another thing that confuses me on a 12 hour clock is what time is it when it's exactly 12:00 oclock? Is it AM or PM? I usually think 12:00 AM means midnight, but it could just as easily be afternoon. Because the natue of 12:00 is actually a state of transition. The 24 hour clock dispenses with these trivial but awkward details.
When I worked for the Forest Service, we worked on a 24 hour clock, and when we worked around the clock, as in fighting fire, the 24 hour clock added a level of clarity that eventually became more apparent with use.
I didn't used to, but after working as a medical transcriptionist for an xray / ultrasound company, I've grown to love the 24hr clock. We were NOT allowed to make "time" mistakes and could easily be fired for HIPAA violations for incorrect time stamps.
24 Hour really is just a "better" clock. My phone, car, computer etc all are in 24hr time. I live in the USA
Edit: I just realized that I've already responded to this thread on page 3. Had no clue this was a necro'd thread!
12 hour clock for my watch
24 hour clock for anything usefull
My devices are all configured to 24 hour.
I'm French. In Western Europe (Except in UK. Some geographers consider UK in Northern Europe. I haven't opinion about the localisation of this place) we user 24 hour clock system therefore I'm using it as most people do.
I have another reason to use it. This system is more accurate. If you use 12 hour clock without "am and pm". It became complicate to use on a text. Of course if you say to anyone in the street "What time is it ?" 12 hour clock is accurate.
Since I can generally tell whether it is AM or PM (and I mean generally, I have been confused on a few late nights) I like the 12 hour clock.
The idea of 13 o'clock vaguely bothers me.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 17, 2016, 06:59:37 AM
Since I can generally tell whether it is AM or PM (and I mean generally, I have been confused on a few late nights) I like the 12 hour clock.
The idea of 13 o'clock vaguely bothers me.
Try this:
2:33 PM (no, wait, it was AM. Or maybe not, maybe it WAS PM and I just forgot. Anyway, it was "2:something sometime."
vs.
14:33
Why not the 10 hour clock with 100 minutes per hour, 100 seconds per minute? Why? It makes sense so it's prohibited.
After all, it was a French idea and everyone knows the French are weird.
And for those still stuck on 24 hour time it has a built in confusion. Which dial means what? See how easy this is ?
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q490/atheola/clock-french-republic.jpg)
All time divisions are arbitrary. Habituation, on the other hand, is set in stone. On the griping hand if things get bad enough anybody can learn a new system.
2*12 hours ... 60 mins per hour, 60 sec per min ... Babylonian that.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on November 17, 2016, 11:38:36 AM
Why not the 10 hour clock with 100 minutes per hour, 100 seconds per minute? Why? It makes sense so it's prohibited.
After all, it was a French idea and everyone knows the French are weird.
And for those still stuck on 24 hour time it has a built in confusion. Which dial means what? See how easy this is ?
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q490/atheola/clock-french-republic.jpg)
Thanks for this discovery. I did never knew the existence of this weird clock system even if I'm French.
For those who are lost with AM and PM. Do you know AM and PM are abbreviations in Latin language ?
AM = ante meridiem
(Before noonday , Before midday)PM = post meridiem
(After noonday , After midday)
Yeah, 5th grade, 1960.
One day, I had to work from 3pm till midnight. I was told to work the next day from 7 to 12. I showed up at 7pm only to get fussed out for being 12 hours late. So yeah, 24-hour clock for me.
Then there's Calvin:
Wingman: Enemy Fighters at 3 o'clock!
Calvin: So we've got about 45 minutes?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 19, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
Then there's Calvin:
Wingman: Enemy Fighters at 3 o'clock!
Calvin: So we've got about 45 minutes?
Was that after his airplane cockpit was glued shut? Afficianado...
Quote from: Cavebear on December 02, 2016, 05:34:33 AM
Was that after his airplane cockpit was glued shut? Afficianado...
I think Mrs. Wormwood did that?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 02, 2016, 08:35:15 AM
I think Mrs. Wormwood did that?
No, Calvin got glue everywhere. I have a stack of Calvin and Dilbert books at my bedside and I alternate reading them before I turn in. I think I saw the airplane disaster just last week.
Quote from: viocjit on November 19, 2016, 06:07:35 PM
Thanks for this discovery. I did never knew the existence of this weird clock system even if I'm French.
Metric navigation based on a 100 degree circle, with each degree divided into millidegrees.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 02, 2016, 08:45:43 AM
No, Calvin got glue everywhere. I have a stack of Calvin and Dilbert books at my bedside and I alternate reading them before I turn in. I think I saw the airplane disaster just last week.
I was implying that Mrs. Wormwood would happily lock Calvin up so he didn't disrupt her class.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 02, 2016, 09:26:09 AM
I was implying that Mrs. Wormwood would happily lock Calvin up so he didn't disrupt her class.
Oh well, a Ms Wormwood fan like you would probably claim anything. Unlike a certain boy and tiger. You probably like Rosalyn too. ;)
Which do you like better, the dadisms or snow sculptures?
Quote from: Cavebear on December 02, 2016, 10:23:48 AM
Oh well, a Ms Wormwood fan like you would probably claim anything. Unlike a certain boy and tiger. You probably like Rosalyn too. ;)
Which do you like better, the dadisms or snow sculptures?
I liked the snow barrier he built across the drive-way. Dad should have run with it and called in snow-bound that day.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 02, 2016, 10:50:45 AM
I liked the snow barrier he built across the drive-way. Dad should have run with it and called in snow-bound that day.
Calvin WAS a MASTER with snow...
Quote from: Cavebear on December 02, 2016, 11:27:44 AM
Calvin WAS a MASTER with snow...
The butchered snowmen was a classic.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 02, 2016, 11:33:50 AM
The butchered snowmen was a classic.
There were so many. The snow goons who multiplied, the snow goons who picketed Dad near the driveway, the hanged snowman, the cannon-shot snowman, the iced backyard, the snow snake eating Calvin, etc...
Lemme just add that 24 hour clocks mean no more suffering one of my particular linguistic pet peeves, "eight a.m. in the morning". Yes, you said a.m., I assumed that meant in the morning, you're not talking about eight p.m. in the morning!
24 is the most logical. I haven't internalized it yet and still have to do some mental math to convert, but holy shit why are we still using the 12 hour system? Same deal really, but why are we still using the imperial system for measurements in the US?
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on January 06, 2017, 12:29:03 AM
24 is the most logical. I haven't internalized it yet and still have to do some mental math to convert, but holy shit why are we still using the 12 hour system? Same deal really, but why are we still using the imperial system for measurements in the US?
12 or 24, it is all related to Babylonian sexegismal. Metric was invented by France .. enough said ;-)
The 24 hour clock does make more sense, but in the US people who use it are either military or weird.
Quote from: widdershins on January 06, 2017, 10:26:55 AM
The 24 hour clock does make more sense, but in the US people who use it are either military or weird.
Redundant.
I grew up in a military family. My dad, a navy man of 20 years, uses 24 hour clock on everything. He gets mildly annoyed whenever it is called military time.
Quote from: BettaPonic on January 14, 2017, 09:28:23 PM
I grew up in a military family. My dad, a navy man of 20 years, uses 24 hour clock on everything. He gets mildly annoyed whenever it is called military time.
The Soviet Union was weird ... they had a 24 hour clock, but started it at noon instead of midnight ;-)
I prefer the 12 hour clock.
I recall a joke from many years past. A somber news anchor reports that it is 9 pm in Washington DC, 1 am in London, and a squeaky voice comes in and says it is 9:38 in Baltimore MD...
Sorry, we Washington folks don't like Baltimore. LOL!
But seriously, if you can't tell whether it is 4 am or 4 pm, you are in a heap of trouble...
Granted, decimal seems better.
Semi-related: the guys at Bible Reloaded were reviewing a movie that they expected to be 1 hour and 15 minutes long and were dismayed to learn was almost 2 hours long. What gives?
DVD label: "Runtime: 115 minutes"
:embarrassed:
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 20, 2017, 01:39:23 AM
Semi-related: the guys at Bible Reloaded were reviewing a movie that they expected to be 1 hour and 15 minutes long and were dismayed to learn was almost 2 hours long. What gives?
DVD label: "Runtime: 115 minutes"
:embarrassed:
They think the world was created in 4004 BC ; they aren't real good at measuring time.
The DVD was labeled correctly, the Bible Reloaded guys goofed.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 20, 2017, 01:39:23 AM
Semi-related: the guys at Bible Reloaded were reviewing a movie that they expected to be 1 hour and 15 minutes long and were dismayed to learn was almost 2 hours long. What gives?
DVD label: "Runtime: 115 minutes"
:embarrassed:
I do that to myself all the time. I know all about 60 minutes in an hour, and have sufficient math skills, but when I see "115 minutes", I gravitate to automatically thinking a hour and a few minutes. In fact, I had to reread your post a couple of times, just to see the error.
Another good reason for decimal time.