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Title: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 07:54:13 AM
EDITED: PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THIS THREAD IT IS A TEST!

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I bet religion is only evil because it is a conform-seeking without paying attention to common sense.

So is any idea with an ism. Communism. Capitalism (or consumerism if you want). Fascism.

Common to all of them, is that people will have to abandon their own thoughts, their own ideas and their own observations.

I think that we have to seperate spirituality from religion. Religion can and mostly do, contain spiritual elements. But that is just a part of religion. It is not what makes religion evil, what makes religion evil is its strict adherence to conformity.

Spirituality can be both literate and a belief in the supernatural. By literal spirituality, I refer to philosophical heureka-moments. The "Of COURSE! THAT's how it works!" or, as Archimedes would have said: Heureka!

I think religion is a product derived from heureka, and then mass-produced to consumers. But as with everything mass-produced to consumers, it lose its quality and freshness.
Religion is a type of canned heureka-moment!

Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 26, 2014, 08:29:00 AM
I might be too tired to figure out what you're talking about. I hope 3 hours of sleep wont kill me at work today....
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 08:53:35 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on November 26, 2014, 08:29:00 AM
I might be too tired to figure out what you're talking about. I hope 3 hours of sleep wont kill me at work today....

I will simplify my post, for the sake of you:

* Religion is evil because it is a method of conforming. Not because of it's spiritual elements.

* I divide Spiritual elements into two cathegories: a) Supernatural (belief in holy as well as unholy ghosts etc.) and b) Literature/philosophy.

* Philosophy provides you with a "heureka" moment, as Archimedes would have said it.

* Religion describes these heureka moments, and simplify them for the masses.

* When you get a heureka moment from religion, instead of seeking it from its original source (philosophy) it is comparable to fresh food vs. canned food.
Where religion is your canned food.

I hope you understand now.

I could simplify even better:

Religion is not the real thing. Philosophy has the real thing.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 26, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
Philosophy is not a "real thing" either. It's subjective. In fact, religions are different philosophies.

Sent from your mom.

Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 09:17:09 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on November 26, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
Philosophy is not a "real thing" either. It's subjective. In fact, religions are different philosophies.

Sent from your mom.



Depends on what I meant by "real thing". Coca Cola is the real thing. Baldur cola is not.

It's that type of "real thing". I wasn't refering to reality of the universe or life. I was refering to the heureka moment.

Religion is a canned version of philsophy. It does not provide with arguments.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 09:26:59 AM
I am not a troll, but I actually did a test on you.

I have noticed that since I came here, you people have talked down to me, and said everything I say is bullshit, out of touch, not worth discussing etc. etc.

So, I did a test here. I presented some arguments AGAINST religion. Carefully wrapped up like a christmas gift, but still, it was an argument against religion and pro-atheist.

Yet, you say I am wrong.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 26, 2014, 09:33:10 AM
Religion is a canned version of philosophy? That is the biggest load of shit I have seen all day. And I just shit out 2 boxes of Milk Duds, a box of Charleston Chew, and half a box of Tootsie Rolls that were washed down with a few bottles of porter stout. Let me ask you this; How often do you crap and fart?

I am sure people that has "found christ" or "found allah" had that heureka moment you are talking about. Even if the philosophy you are referring to in the op is being flexible with how you see things, that in it's self is a philosophy.

I'm out of this discussion. I may be exhausted, but this is conversation is turning stupid real fast.
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 09:26:59 AM
I am not a troll, but I actually did a test on you.

I have noticed that since I came here, you people have talked down to me, and said everything I say is bullshit, out of touch, not worth discussing etc. etc.

So, I did a test here. I presented some arguments AGAINST religion. Carefully wrapped up like a christmas gift, but still, it was an argument against religion and pro-atheist.

Yet, you say I am wrong.
Testing us? Who are you, Frosty? And I don't know about "not worth discussing" but everything you have posted, including this HAS been bullshit.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on November 26, 2014, 09:33:10 AM
Religion is a canned version of philosophy? That is the biggest load of shit I have seen all day. And I just shit out 2 boxes of Milk Duds, a box of Charleston Chew, and half a box of Tootsie Rolls that were washed down with a few bottles of porter stout. Let me ask you this; How often do you crap and fart?

I am sure people that has "found christ" or "found allah" had that heureka moment you are talking about. Even if the philosophy you are referring to in the op is being flexible with how you see things, that in it's self is a philosophy.

I'm out of this discussion. I may be exhausted, but this is conversation is turning stupid real fast.Testing us? Who are you, Frosty? And I don't know about "not worth discussing" but everything you have posted, including this HAS been bullshit.

I am not Frosty. I don't even know who he/she is.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
I will add to this case, that the "test" is restricted to this thread only. I have not done this anywhere else on this forum.

However, on other forums, I regularly do such tests, if people react to me the way you people did it throughout my time on this forum.
It seems like I can't say anything that is not bullshit to you. Even if I said:

"Atheism is the way to go, religion is not good" I bet, you would still call my post a bullshit.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: Mister Agenda on November 26, 2014, 10:51:22 AM
There are many 'isms' I like. Metabolism, for one. Not every 'ism' is an ideology. Atheism and theism aren't ideologies, for instance, they are the conditions of not having or having a belief in some sort of supernatural God or gods.

When 'always' is put in a sentence, the odds of that sentence being true go down considerably, because any exception renders the sentence untrue. Is religion being evil when it engages in no-strings-attached charitable operations?
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: Mister Agenda on November 26, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
I will add to this case, that the "test" is restricted to this thread only. I have not done this anywhere else on this forum.

However, on other forums, I regularly do such tests, if people react to me the way you people did it throughout my time on this forum.
It seems like I can't say anything that is not bullshit to you. Even if I said:

"Atheism is the way to go, religion is not good" I bet, you would still call my post a bullshit.


Well, we ought not to agree with a post just because it's written by a fellow atheist. Atheists have no special immunity to being wrong.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: Mr.Obvious on November 26, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
Besides, none of us share the same opinions 100%. We are not 'one collective' here on this forum; not one organism that thinks the same thing on everything. I think it only natural to expect at least someone to call you out on saying bullshit no matter what you say at no matter which at least marginaly popular forum on the internet. So if you're going to say that 'philosophy has the real thing', no matter what you say about religion or atheïsm, you can bet money that some will respond in disagreement.

Serious question though. If you've come to the point that you're testing people you don't even know through the internet because you keep getting treated unfairly or at least you have the feeling that everyone is unfair to you, shouldn't it be time to look at what you might be doing wrong? From your explanation it's clear we're not the only forum that you feel does you wrong. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you feel that way.
Is it the way you phrase things, making them come out more vague and less interesting/convincing to your fellow forumgoers?
Do you perhaps have unfair expectations of other people on the internet? After all if you care so much about being taken serious by a bunch of assholes behind their computers like us, may that be sign that you need a lot of validation/recognition and think you automatically deserve it?
Are you maybe trying to hard to fit in? Because it appears like you're trying, definitely in your other threads, but don't understand the concept. When I joined this forum I tried to make it an as little deal as possible. Hell, I tried to avoid attention. I wanted to understand what kind of people were behind the avatars and tried to make myself at home. But I sure as hell didn't look at the people on this forum from the outside. Which meant that it didn't even cross my mind to lay out 'tests'.

Now I'm not a psychologist. And I don't know you. So I could very well be way off. But I do know that if I run into a recurring problem in my life, I ask myself questions before thinking everyone is against me. If you haven't done that already, which you might have, please concider that before telling us we've failed your biased and self entitled test.

If you really want to be concidered a part of this forum; chill. And foremost don't come to a sceptic's playground and expect to not get told why your argument sucks. It's gonna happen.

P.S. Your test is this vague and ill-phrased so called "pro-atheïst" argument. And you get one negative response to it; a response not even going against anything 'pro-atheïst' but rather against 'philosophy'... And that's your proof that no matter what you say is bullshit to us? Really?
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: Cocoa Beware on November 26, 2014, 12:52:37 PM
I dont think anything is truly good or evil.

Thats how religion tries to set it up, and it is a mistake.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: Thackerie on November 26, 2014, 01:30:58 PM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 09:26:59 AM
I am not a troll, but I actually did a test on you.

I have noticed that since I came here, you people have talked down to me, and said everything I say is bullshit, out of touch, not worth discussing etc. etc.

So, I did a test here. I presented some arguments AGAINST religion. Carefully wrapped up like a christmas gift, but still, it was an argument against religion and pro-atheist.

Yet, you say I am wrong.

Wow. A christian being disingenuous. Surprise. Surprise.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: Jason78 on November 26, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 07:54:13 AM
I bet religion is only evil because it is a conform-seeking without paying attention to common sense.

No.  Religion is evil because it encourages people to believe things that are not true.   And then they act on those beliefs as if they were true.

Picking a random religion as an example:  Jehova's witnesses will refuse a blood transfusion, even though it's perfectly safe.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: Jason78 on November 26, 2014, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 09:26:59 AM
I am not a troll, but I actually did a test on you.

That'll teach me to read the entire thread before posting.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil"
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 02:42:21 PM
I promise you, I will never do such a test again.
Enough is enough.

Excuses won't help me either.
But i'm sorry anyway
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TRICK!
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 02:47:40 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 26, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
Besides, none of us share the same opinions 100%. We are not 'one collective' here on this forum; not one organism that thinks the same thing on everything. I think it only natural to expect at least someone to call you out on saying bullshit no matter what you say at no matter which at least marginaly popular forum on the internet. So if you're going to say that 'philosophy has the real thing', no matter what you say about religion or atheïsm, you can bet money that some will respond in disagreement.

Serious question though. If you've come to the point that you're testing people you don't even know through the internet because you keep getting treated unfairly or at least you have the feeling that everyone is unfair to you, shouldn't it be time to look at what you might be doing wrong? From your explanation it's clear we're not the only forum that you feel does you wrong. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you feel that way.
Is it the way you phrase things, making them come out more vague and less interesting/convincing to your fellow forumgoers?
Do you perhaps have unfair expectations of other people on the internet? After all if you care so much about being taken serious by a bunch of assholes behind their computers like us, may that be sign that you need a lot of validation/recognition and think you automatically deserve it?
Are you maybe trying to hard to fit in? Because it appears like you're trying, definitely in your other threads, but don't understand the concept. When I joined this forum I tried to make it an as little deal as possible. Hell, I tried to avoid attention. I wanted to understand what kind of people were behind the avatars and tried to make myself at home. But I sure as hell didn't look at the people on this forum from the outside. Which meant that it didn't even cross my mind to lay out 'tests'.

Now I'm not a psychologist. And I don't know you. So I could very well be way off. But I do know that if I run into a recurring problem in my life, I ask myself questions before thinking everyone is against me. If you haven't done that already, which you might have, please concider that before telling us we've failed your biased and self entitled test.

If you really want to be concidered a part of this forum; chill. And foremost don't come to a sceptic's playground and expect to not get told why your argument sucks. It's gonna happen.

P.S. Your test is this vague and ill-phrased so called "pro-atheïst" argument. And you get one negative response to it; a response not even going against anything 'pro-atheïst' but rather against 'philosophy'... And that's your proof that no matter what you say is bullshit to us? Really?

That's one of the best posts I've read so far on this forum.

As to if I think about why I fail in every social encounter, all I can tell you is that I do, and I do ask what I'm doing wrong, but how and why is not a matter for this forum or this thread.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TRICK!
Post by: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
Fact of the matter is, I originally did not intend to make this a test. But I turned it into a test, because I wanted to know if people react negatively to me no matter whatever I say.
When I realized my OP was taken with negative response, I chose to turn it into a test in a desperate hope of not ridiculing myself even further. Turned out to be a huge counterattack on myself.

Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TRICK!
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 26, 2014, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
Fact of the matter is, I originally did not intend to make this a test. But I turned it into a test, because I wanted to know if people react negatively to me no matter whatever I say.
When I realized my OP was taken with negative response, I chose to turn it into a test in a desperate hope of not ridiculing myself even further. Turned out to be a huge counterattack on myself.


AKA: "Everyone got pissed off at me due to my lack of judgement..... Sike! It's a joke!"
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TRICK!
Post by: aitm on November 26, 2014, 08:55:06 PM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 02:49:50 PM
Fact of the matter is, I originally did not intend to make this a test. But I turned it into a test, because I wanted to know if people react negatively to me no matter whatever I say.
When I realized my OP was taken with negative response, I chose to turn it into a test in a desperate hope of not ridiculing myself even further. Turned out to be a huge counterattack on myself.


Sometimes in life, no matter how hard we try or want it to happen, it simply won't. I fear even though you have tried, that this place is not for you. Perhaps in the future....but not now. Sorry, but that is life. Continue at your own risk.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TRICK!
Post by: Mermaid on November 26, 2014, 09:07:16 PM
Attention whoring fuckery.

Yes, I am profane today. SUE ME.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: mediumaevum on November 27, 2014, 01:58:03 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on November 26, 2014, 09:07:16 PM
Attention whoring fuckery.

Yes, I am profane today. SUE ME.

Actually, I don't want to be attention-seeking. Apparently I am, but I don't want to. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on November 27, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
QuoteI am not a troll, but...
Just like Best Buy isn't trolling the public with their Black Friday sale where if you show up 2 hours before they open you get a chance to get a ticket to shop early to buy shit for the same price (or higher) that you could have bought cheaper 3 weeks ago! 
No..not trolling at all.. :naughty:
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Johan on November 27, 2014, 10:13:33 AM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 09:26:59 AM
So, I did a test here. I presented some arguments AGAINST religion. Carefully wrapped up like a christmas gift, but still, it was an argument against religion and pro-atheist.

Yet, you say I am wrong.
Yes. Because the bogus argument you presented is weak. It has NOTHING to do with who posted it. It has EVERYTHING to do with what was said.

I will probably regret trying to explain this to you but here goes anyway. Your argument was that religion is evil because it requires conformity. That is simply not a very good argument. Conformity isn't the problem. If you take conformity out of society you get anarchy. No one wants that.

If you want people to stop disregarding your arguments, put your energy into learning to make better arguments rather than trying to prove its all some bullshit conspiracy against you personally.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on November 27, 2014, 10:20:46 AM
There you go trying to get medium to grasp logical thinking again.. It's a lost cause..
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: mediumaevum on November 27, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on November 27, 2014, 10:20:46 AM
There you go trying to get medium to grasp logical thinking again.. It's a lost cause..

It's not a lost cause.

To Johan: I will try my best, but before I do so, I will have a small break from this forum.
I will use that break to learn how to present arguments, learn a little philosophy and so on.

Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Berati on November 27, 2014, 06:42:53 PM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 26, 2014, 07:54:13 AM
EDITED: PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THIS THREAD IT IS A TEST!

FYI, Every atheist forum I have participated in over the years has had christians showing up pretending to be atheists. They always do this because of the false notion that we will always stick up for each other. Like we're some kind of unified group. And that because of this we will easily be led astray by flawed arguments as long as they are anti religious.
These tests never work... ever.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Moralnihilist on November 27, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
Ive been quiet on the forum for a while, just content to sit back and read. However the OP seems to have quite a set of balls on him(her?). Exactly what were you expecting to achieve on an Atheist forum(people who are generally capable of thought) with an obviously loaded and bullshit "test"? And secondly what the hell makes you think that you are in any position to "test" us? Do you honestly think that you are the first religiotard to come here with that bullshit?

Atheists(especially on here) are a large and diverse group. We don't fit into the traditional group mind of religious people. In fact some of the biggest "fights" on this forum are between Atheists. We fucking LOVE to argue and call bullshit. Your "test" was just that pure unadulterated weapons grade bullshit.

Recently(since Sabrina left) the only religious people that come here kick up a shit storm and then bitch and moan about how bad they are being treated. Frankly Id love to see all the stupid fuckers banned, including the retarded OP. Just give the little retards one fucking shot, the second they prove to be as dumb as the rest insta-hammer.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: mediumaevum on November 28, 2014, 02:09:48 AM
Quote from: Moralnihilist on November 27, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
Ive been quiet on the forum for a while, just content to sit back and read. However the OP seems to have quite a set of balls on him(her?). Exactly what were you expecting to achieve on an Atheist forum(people who are generally capable of thought) with an obviously loaded and bullshit "test"? And secondly what the hell makes you think that you are in any position to "test" us? Do you honestly think that you are the first religiotard to come here with that bullshit?

Atheists(especially on here) are a large and diverse group. We don't fit into the traditional group mind of religious people. In fact some of the biggest "fights" on this forum are between Atheists. We fucking LOVE to argue and call bullshit. Your "test" was just that pure unadulterated weapons grade bullshit.

Recently(since Sabrina left) the only religious people that come here kick up a shit storm and then bitch and moan about how bad they are being treated. Frankly Id love to see all the stupid fuckers banned, including the retarded OP. Just give the little retards one fucking shot, the second they prove to be as dumb as the rest insta-hammer.

Firstly, I would like to say that throughout my time on this forum, I have never contested Evolution, I have never claimed one particular religion to be true or above others, I have never claimed the Biblical, Islamic or just about any other religious text to be true and contested scientific findings.

What I did, was to present people with the opinion that there MAY BE more to the universe than what we are currently capable of knowing today. That was all I did.
But that simple statement pissed off all of you people on this forum.

Secondly, Atheists may have political disputes. They may even disagree on science/research and hence the results or conclusions of experiments. I agree so far.
But if ANYONE try and come here (this forum) and bring forth just a little, tiny, micro-argument in favor of something that you Atheists are against, (atheism btw. means lack of belief, not anti-belief, but in this forum, you are all against, say, religion or just about anything that doesn't fit into your worldview!) you get pissed off to the extend of not resorting to arguments and decent discussions.
Instead, you stoop to a level of throwing about you with "bullshit!"-statements.

Thirdly, you don't even know what a retard is. If I was retarded, I would not even be able to write a sentence in a second language. And throwing about you with "you are retarded"-statements isn't arguments either, you are simply making yourself worth less than one capable of Darwin Awards.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Munch on November 28, 2014, 03:40:53 AM
I'm all for giving people chances. On the religious aspect I believe anyone can wake themselves up from the Bullshit dogma they've been trained into following, and see that it's the same crap all over the world.

But there are chances, and then there are just helpless causes, and no amount of teaching science, history or rational, analytical thinking will help such people.

Sorry op, you didn't achieve anything here.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Moralnihilist on November 28, 2014, 03:45:20 AM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 28, 2014, 02:09:48 AM
Firstly, I would like to say that throughout my time on this forum, I have never contested Evolution, I have never claimed one particular religion to be true or above others, I have never claimed the Biblical, Islamic or just about any other religious text to be true and contested scientific findings.

What I did, was to present people with the opinion that there MAY BE more to the universe than what we are currently capable of knowing today. That was all I did.
But that simple statement pissed off all of you people on this forum.

Secondly, Atheists may have political disputes. They may even disagree on science/research and hence the results or conclusions of experiments. I agree so far.
But if ANYONE try and come here (this forum) and bring forth just a little, tiny, micro-argument in favor of something that you Atheists are against, (atheism btw. means lack of belief, not anti-belief, but in this forum, you are all against, say, religion or just about anything that doesn't fit into your worldview!) you get pissed off to the extend of not resorting to arguments and decent discussions.
Instead, you stoop to a level of throwing about you with "bullshit!"-statements.

Thirdly, you don't even know what a retard is. If I was retarded, I would not even be able to write a sentence in a second language. And throwing about you with "you are retarded"-statements isn't arguments either, you are simply making yourself worth less than one capable of Darwin Awards.

Lets take this one point at a time shall we junior?

Point 1(your firstly): Never said you did ergo: non sequitur.
What you DID do was pose a bullshit loaded "test" to prove some preconceived notion you had about us. And Im not the only one to call you on it.

Point 2(your secondly):
Quit trying to play the victim card. YOU chose to come here a website CLEARLY called ATHEISTforums.com and spout off your particular brand of bullshit woo and somehow you expect to be taken seriously? Do you have a functioning brain cell? Now my brain works just fine and I know for a fact that what would most likely be ANOTHER atheist coming to mock or preach at religotards on THEIR website would be met with the same level of disdain that you have thus far been met with. ESPECIALLY if I proceeded to "test" some bullshit "theory".

Oh and by the way fuckstain I am WELL aware of what atheism is. The issue I have taken with your retarded ass is(and Ill make it simple for you) is your presumption that you have some new thing that we haven't heard of and that you can educate us. So yes my little retard when the ten thousandth religotard comes in and pulls the exact same play as the previous 9,999 other religotards, surely even for someone with your limited comprehension can see how annoying that gets.

Point 3(your thirdly):
Well shithead, if it walks, quacks, and looks like a duck chances are it isn't a dog. Again I didn't come to, what would be to a person capable of thought, a hostile environment and presume to spout off some bullshit, unproven, uneducated "theory". That would be your retarded ass.

Wow you can write in a second language. Cute. This is somehow supposed to "prove" that you aren't retarded? You apparently haven't heard of high functioning mental retardation, Autistism, or Savant Syndrome to name a few. Obviously it is not I who does not understand the word retard.

Now kindly take a long slow fuck off of the end of my dick. Im done with your retarded ass.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: mediumaevum on November 28, 2014, 05:23:42 AM
Quote from: Moralnihilist on November 28, 2014, 03:45:20 AM
Lets take this one point at a time shall we junior?

Point 1(your firstly): Never said you did ergo: non sequitur.
What you DID do was pose a bullshit loaded "test" to prove some preconceived notion you had about us. And Im not the only one to call you on it.

Point 2(your secondly):
Quit trying to play the victim card. YOU chose to come here a website CLEARLY called ATHEISTforums.com and spout off your particular brand of bullshit woo and somehow you expect to be taken seriously? Do you have a functioning brain cell? Now my brain works just fine and I know for a fact that what would most likely be ANOTHER atheist coming to mock or preach at religotards on THEIR website would be met with the same level of disdain that you have thus far been met with. ESPECIALLY if I proceeded to "test" some bullshit "theory".

Oh and by the way fuckstain I am WELL aware of what atheism is. The issue I have taken with your retarded ass is(and Ill make it simple for you) is your presumption that you have some new thing that we haven't heard of and that you can educate us. So yes my little retard when the ten thousandth religotard comes in and pulls the exact same play as the previous 9,999 other religotards, surely even for someone with your limited comprehension can see how annoying that gets.

Point 3(your thirdly):
Well shithead, if it walks, quacks, and looks like a duck chances are it isn't a dog. Again I didn't come to, what would be to a person capable of thought, a hostile environment and presume to spout off some bullshit, unproven, uneducated "theory". That would be your retarded ass.

Wow you can write in a second language. Cute. This is somehow supposed to "prove" that you aren't retarded? You apparently haven't heard of high functioning mental retardation, Autistism, or Savant Syndrome to name a few. Obviously it is not I who does not understand the word retard.

Now kindly take a long slow fuck off of the end of my dick. Im done with your retarded ass.

This forum is so unmoderated that I will leave by myself.

The fact that you can come up with every personal attack, even though the rules on this forum clearly states you can NOT, and yet it has not a single consequence for you:

QuoteDo you have a functioning brain cell?

QuoteOh and by the way fuckstain

Quoteyour retarded ass

QuoteWell shithead

And lastly:

QuoteNow kindly take a long slow fuck off of the end of my dick.

I will tell everyone about this AtheistForums.com. That it has rules, it has moderators, and the moderators allow the breaking of rules and allow personal attacks.

Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: mediumaevum on November 28, 2014, 05:39:08 AM
And, btw.
QuoteYou apparently haven't heard of high functioning mental retardation, Autistism, or Savant Syndrome to name a few.

It's called autism, not autistism. Autism and savant syndrome is not mental retardation.

You just proved yourself to be stupid and ignorant.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Berati on November 28, 2014, 08:44:32 AM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 28, 2014, 02:09:48 AM

But that simple statement pissed off all of you people on this forum.

Instead, you stoop to a level of throwing about you with "bullshit!"-statements.

Actually, I agree with you that there are some assholes on this site who are far to quick with the ad hominems. Who think they're clever wordsmiths if they weave profanity into insults. But that's the internet for you. Especially if you try to discuss religion or politics. You need a thick skin to stick around here and that's true even if you're an atheist so don't take it personally.
If you can ignore them you'll find some reasonable folk here as well.

If you want a more highly moderated atmosphere, there are other sites. There was a danish atheist site that was far more civil than this site. Not sure if it's still around.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 28, 2014, 09:16:36 AM
If you want to bring up rule number 5 like you did in our announcements section, you can also bring up number 10; no trolling... which it very much seems like you've been doing.

You post stupid shit, you ask for a religious person's response... that's just a few examples of why we would assume you are a troll. Don't behave like a troll and expect to not be treated like one.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Munch on November 28, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
We have had a few people come on the site here full on saying they are religious and want to either make some religous statement among a group of atheists from the safety of there anonymity, or they try to at least get a balanced understanding of why people are atheists, which honestly is a fair question for anyone to ask, if they simply ask it and don't insinuate something from it.

I would not walk into a church and make sweeping statements of peoples faith being bullshit, because a church is a place they can gather all they want and preach it among themselves, thats fine. And while as an atheist I would never want to be accused of any gathering place for atheists to be like a church, it is still a gathering spot for people of a like mind, and so coming here knowing 98% of the people here don't in any possible way agree with your beliefs, and making ham fisted statements about it, is frankly insulting.

Like I said, if you come here, asks some questions, share your experience and why you feel the way you do, that is fine, it can open up debates between theists and atheists and maybe even share some common ground. But anyone coming here preaching, or trying some mind games with an atheist community, you pretty much deserve ridicule for trying that on.

Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: stromboli on November 28, 2014, 04:15:53 PM
He'll be back. When the butthurt wears off, he will come back and try again.We are like catnip to his kind.
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Jason78 on November 28, 2014, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: Moralnihilist on November 28, 2014, 03:45:20 AM
Lets take this one point at a time shall we junior?

Point 1(your firstly): Never said you did ergo: non sequitur.
What you DID do was pose a bullshit loaded "test" to prove some preconceived notion you had about us. And Im not the only one to call you on it.

Point 2(your secondly):
Quit trying to play the victim card. YOU chose to come here a website CLEARLY called ATHEISTforums.com and spout off your particular brand of bullshit woo and somehow you expect to be taken seriously? Do you have a functioning brain cell? Now my brain works just fine and I know for a fact that what would most likely be ANOTHER atheist coming to mock or preach at religotards on THEIR website would be met with the same level of disdain that you have thus far been met with. ESPECIALLY if I proceeded to "test" some bullshit "theory".

Oh and by the way fuckstain I am WELL aware of what atheism is. The issue I have taken with your retarded ass is(and Ill make it simple for you) is your presumption that you have some new thing that we haven't heard of and that you can educate us. So yes my little retard when the ten thousandth religotard comes in and pulls the exact same play as the previous 9,999 other religotards, surely even for someone with your limited comprehension can see how annoying that gets.

Point 3(your thirdly):
Well shithead, if it walks, quacks, and looks like a duck chances are it isn't a dog. Again I didn't come to, what would be to a person capable of thought, a hostile environment and presume to spout off some bullshit, unproven, uneducated "theory". That would be your retarded ass.

Wow you can write in a second language. Cute. This is somehow supposed to "prove" that you aren't retarded? You apparently haven't heard of high functioning mental retardation, Autistism, or Savant Syndrome to name a few. Obviously it is not I who does not understand the word retard.

Now kindly take a long slow fuck off of the end of my dick. Im done with your retarded ass.

I'm going to print this out and frame it. :)
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Moralnihilist on November 28, 2014, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: mediumaevum on November 28, 2014, 05:39:08 AM
And, btw.
It's called autism, not autistism. Autism and savant syndrome is not mental retardation.

You just proved yourself to be stupid and ignorant.

Oh Im "stupid and ignorant".....

Lets see:
Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder.
In DSM-5, "mental retardation" has a new name: "intellectual disability (intellectual developmental disorder)," the first section in the neurodevelopmental disorders chapter. The change is due to a gradual call for destigmatization among clinicians, the public, and advocacy groups. Also included in this chapter are communication disorders -- formerly phonological disorder and stuttering -- which include language disorder, speech sound disorder, childhood-onset fluency disorder, and a new condition characterized by impaired social verbal and nonverbal communication called social (pragmatic) communication disorder. Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), specific learning disorder, and motor disorders (eg, Tourette disorder) are also included, as is the new DSM-5 diagnosis, autism spectrum disorder(http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/803884_3)

Savant syndrome is a rare, but extraordinary, condition in which persons with serious mental disabilities, including autistic disorder, have some ‘island of genius’ which stands in marked, incongruous contrast to overall handicap. http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/364/1522/1351.full

So to quote you:

QuoteYou just proved yourself to be stupid and ignorant

So now all we are left with is a typo. Is that the best you really have?
Title: Re: "Religion is always evil" DISCLAIMER: TEST
Post by: Munch on November 29, 2014, 06:57:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZzXJdkw.jpg)