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Title: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on September 28, 2014, 12:03:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHnCtl6uO9c
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: stromboli on September 28, 2014, 12:25:53 PM
I wish that were true.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 28, 2014, 12:32:12 PM
There are lots of reasons why that couldn't realistically work.

*  Square-cube law (godzilla couldn't support its own weight and neither could city thoroughfares)
*  It would be very, very difficult for the ecosystem to support a Godzilla species.
*  Even assuming the failure of conventional arms, Godzilla would still be vulnerable to the elements, starvation, poisoning, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cesaPTik_Q
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on September 28, 2014, 12:45:36 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 28, 2014, 12:32:12 PM
There are lots of reasons why that couldn't realistically work.

*  Square-cube law (godzilla couldn't support its own weight and neither could city thoroughfares)
*  It would be very, very difficult for the ecosystem to support a Godzilla species.
*  Even assuming the failure of conventional arms, Godzilla would still be vulnerable to the elements, starvation, poisoning, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cesaPTik_Q
He would be vulnerable to the Toyota motor company because the maps beat him..
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on September 28, 2014, 11:38:30 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 28, 2014, 12:32:12 PM
There are lots of reasons why that couldn't realistically work.

*  Square-cube law (godzilla couldn't support its own weight and neither could city thoroughfares)
*  It would be very, very difficult for the ecosystem to support a Godzilla species.
*  Even assuming the failure of conventional arms, Godzilla would still be vulnerable to the elements, starvation, poisoning, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cesaPTik_Q
Stop ruining my fun with your sciency science shit! :P
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 29, 2014, 06:26:11 AM
Gawdzilla DOES exist.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: SGOS on September 29, 2014, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 29, 2014, 06:26:11 AM
Gawdzilla DOES exist.
Of course he does.  We just have to deal with it.  There's no use pretending he's a fake.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on September 29, 2014, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 28, 2014, 12:32:12 PM
There are lots of reasons why that couldn't realistically work.

*  Square-cube law (godzilla couldn't support its own weight and neither could city thoroughfares)
*  It would be very, very difficult for the ecosystem to support a Godzilla species.
*  Even assuming the failure of conventional arms, Godzilla would still be vulnerable to the elements, starvation, poisoning, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cesaPTik_Q
Square cube law I'll give you, but it would be very easy for the oceanic ecosystem to support a Godzilla sized creature.

Edit: you must remember by most accounts Godzilla is the only of his kind. He's a mutant. One Godzilla would be easy to support.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: stromboli on September 29, 2014, 10:27:15 PM
Godzilla exists. all those breath, frightened Japanese schoolgirls,uh, students running breathlessly with their skirts flying to reveal their luscious legs I mean, what's not real about that?
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: aitm on September 29, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
you are all being ridiculous...everyone knows that real monsters only attack america.....stoopid posers.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on September 29, 2014, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: aitm on September 29, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
you are all being ridiculous...everyone knows that real monsters only attack america Japan.....stoopid posers.
FIFY.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: EvanGalea on October 03, 2014, 05:26:56 PM
I remember we once happened to have a little known person called rob ford here in Canada. I guess he is like our godzilla. Both like to destroy cities.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: stromboli on October 03, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: EvanGalea on October 03, 2014, 05:26:56 PM
I remember we once happened to have a little known person called rob ford here in Canada. I guess he is like our godzilla. Both like to destroy cities.

Darn. I thought Rob Ford was lovable and cute. Like a drug addled Porky Pig.

Oh, btw; I made some comments vis a vis you being a Canadian when you first came on here. I used to live in an apartment house with some guys from Alberta, whose dad owned a wheat farm (Mormons). They were devoutly non Mormon. every comment I made was a quote from them. Loved them some Molson, they did. Great guys. Nothing posted was meant in any way to be anti Canadian.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on October 03, 2014, 07:08:03 PM
Undoubtedly a republican congressman would go on the Sunday talking head circuit to proclaim "WE'LL DO ANYTHING TO SAVE AMERICAN LIVES and by the way Obamacare is a jobs destroyer.. WORSE THAN GODZILLA!"
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: EvanGalea on October 03, 2014, 09:01:29 PM
Quote from: stromboli on October 03, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
Darn. I thought Rob Ford was lovable and cute. Like a drug addled Porky Pig.

Oh, btw; I made some comments vis a vis you being a Canadian when you first came on here. I used to live in an apartment house with some guys from Alberta, whose dad owned a wheat farm (Mormons). They were devoutly non Mormon. every comment I made was a quote from them. Loved them some Molson, they did. Great guys. Nothing posted was meant in any way to be anti Canadian.

Don't worry, I'm not hurt. Even if I was hurt my free healthcare would cover it.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: stromboli on October 03, 2014, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: EvanGalea on October 03, 2014, 09:01:29 PM
Don't worry, I'm not hurt. Even if I was hurt my free healthcare would cover it.

:biggrin:
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on October 04, 2014, 08:20:54 AM
If Godzilla were real Americans by the millions would cross the Canadian border in search of medical attention because our health coverage probably has a disclaimer that won't cover us in case of ocean going monster attacks..
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: EvanGalea on October 05, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Okay, just don't expect our military of like 3500 soldiers with 1980's gear to protect you very well.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on October 05, 2014, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on October 04, 2014, 08:20:54 AM
If Godzilla were real Americans by the millions would cross the Canadian border in search of medical attention because our health coverage probably has a disclaimer that won't cover us in case of ocean going monster attacks..
If it was winter we couldn't get there unless we drove over the RVs with Ontario plates.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: stromboli on October 06, 2014, 01:27:25 AM
Probably off topic, but I saw more Canadian plates at Glacier National Park than US ones. And they nicer cars.  :sad2:
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on October 06, 2014, 06:08:38 AM
Quote from: stromboli on October 06, 2014, 01:27:25 AM
Probably off topic, but I saw more Canadian plates at Glacier National Park than US ones. And they nicer cars.  :sad2:
Fucking terrorists.. It's a plot to undermine our lack of healthcare..
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: EvanGalea on October 06, 2014, 06:22:13 PM
Back on topic, I heard from someone there was once plans for a godzilla anime. It would be quite a coincidence if godzilla rose up to attack japan at the time it aired there.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: stromboli on October 06, 2014, 10:21:35 PM
Godzilla is real. All those movies are to prepare us mentally when it becomes obvious and they can't hide it anymore.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Poison Tree on October 07, 2014, 02:12:41 AM
In defense of nuking Godzilla (http://www.vox.com/2014/5/19/5730782/godzilla-realism-nukes-offense-defense)

QuoteThere's no higher power that governs Godzilla's relationship with humanity. Godzilla can flatten whole cities without breaking a sweat. It's literally impossible to tell what he's thinking because he can't communicate in any known language. So rational governments who want to survive have little choice but to prepare for war with Godzilla.

More than just prepare, in fact: strike first. Think about scope conditions 2 and 3, the ability to harm and communication. Whatever Ken Watanabe's Godzilla-worshipping scientist says, there's no way to actually confirm that Godzilla's intentions towards humanity are peaceful.

Moreover, once he does turn on humanity, nuking him becomes prohibitively costly. You'd have to target whatever city he's wrecking, spreading fallout throughout your own country. It's in every nation's interest to take him out before they're forced to make that choice.
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on October 07, 2014, 04:29:36 AM
That's it then.. We need an all out nuclear war against every city on earth remotely close to an ocean.. Say...anything even close to within say 5000 miles and all of humanity has to huddle together somewhere around central Eurasia.. I knew that the easy solution was right under our noses all along..
Title: Re: Alternate History: What if Godzilla were real?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on October 07, 2014, 06:13:09 AM
Quote from: stromboli on October 06, 2014, 10:21:35 PM
Godzilla is real. All those movies are to prepare us mentally when it becomes obvious and they can't hide it anymore.
One of my cousins says pretty much the same thing every time we have a big UFO movie. "Close Encounters" was a forecast.