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Title: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on August 26, 2014, 06:28:36 PM
I realized we don't really have a dedicated TV series thread and decided to make one.

Post here with your reviews/recommendations/etc. for any TV series you are watching. (put anime in the anime thread)

AND USE THE SPOILER CODE FOR ANYTHING THAT WILL RUIN SURPRISES FOR OTHERS!!!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on August 26, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
I just started watching the second season of Orphan Black. The first season was amazing and the second season is no less awesome. 11/10 would recommend.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: josephpalazzo on August 26, 2014, 06:49:39 PM
There's already a thread for Game of Thrones (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=1063.0). The reason there hasn't been any posting lately is because the season 5 won't start until Spring 2015.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 26, 2014, 06:50:06 PM
I'm not watching any TV-shows currently. (Waiting for the new season of GOT and I should finish watching the last half of Dexter, but I don't really want to...).
But I'm vowing to start rewatching my collection of X-files episodes; that show is awesome. Though, so far the only show I know in which stand-alone episodes are better than the ones relating to the overarching plot.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on August 26, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
lol I don't even watch game of thrones....
It would be silly of me to post other shows in there
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Post by: aitm on August 26, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
i'm a lazy fuck after coming home from work. I play with the dogs for about a half, then I cook dinner for all, then I watch whatever is on that normally produces laughter out of me. Thats my life....yeah.....I know.....yer jealous!  HA!
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Post by: Hydra009 on August 26, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
Games of Thrones, Walking Dead, Doctor Who.  Also, Robot Chicken and Rick & Morty.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on August 26, 2014, 10:58:33 PM
oh shit. I forgot that Doctor Who started this past week. WHAT KIND OF WHOVIAN AM I??????
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Post by: GrinningYMIR on August 26, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
I've been watching the simpsons marathon recently, that's about it besides the occasional GoT or Hockey game




2424!
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Post by: Solitary on August 27, 2014, 12:14:17 PM
I've been watching Orphan Black also.  :smile:
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Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on August 27, 2014, 05:53:21 PM
I hardly ever watch TV, but my brother in law gave me season 1 of Banshee a while back.  Fuckaroo, that was pretty epic!  No slow intro here, straight in with the action.  I loved it!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Green Bottle on August 27, 2014, 06:26:47 PM
I just got season 5 and 6 of The Shield off my mate to watch, 2 episodes in an its excellent as usual, the best cop show to come out of the us in my opinion, fkn love it.....
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Solitary on August 27, 2014, 11:09:49 PM
I just finished watching the final episode for the season of Tyrant. I thought there was going to be more, and I can't wait until it starts again. I've also been watching Outlander and Hell On Wheels.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 02, 2014, 02:52:13 PM
Gravity Falls:  I actually like it way more than I thought I would.

Plot:  Inquisitive little boy and wacky little girl (fraternal twins) move in with huckster great-uncle and uncover supernatural/paranormal mysteries.  Monster of the week-type stuff.  Nothing amazing but solid popcorn fare.

But it steadily gets better and better.  The jokes get better, supporting characters get fleshed out more, freakier mysteries, plus a couple overarching plots.  Slenderman even makes a cameo in an ostensibly children's cartoon as well as the voice actor for Morty from Rick and Morty.  Plus, dat season 1 finale and season 2 opener.  Now, I can't wait for new episodes.

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Notthesun on September 02, 2014, 03:25:06 PM
I watch way too many shows. Game of Thrones, The Good Wife, Breaking Bad, Bob's Burgers, Parks and Rec, and so on.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on September 02, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Yeah I just finished season 2 of orphan black. AMAZING.

I recommend it
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Post by: PJS on September 03, 2014, 07:16:15 PM
Over the summer I watched the entire Six Feet Under series. I thoroughly enjoyed most episodes. Currently watching the first year of The Wire and I am getting hooked.
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Post by: Desdinova on September 05, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
been watching a lot of soccer lately.  also louie.  football season is here so i will watch that as well.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: josephpalazzo on September 07, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
Lately, I've been watching, Under the Dome. Even though I missed the entire season 1, it's pretty easy to get into. The negative side: I find no particular character interesting; the positive side: Stephen King has kept the tempo just about right to keep up with the intrigue. So I'll be watching for a little while to see if it builds up nicely.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 07, 2014, 02:02:18 PM
Doctor Who's off to a pretty rocky start this season.  I really, really liked David Tennant and Matt Smith.  They were wacky, adventurous Doctors and the actors seemed to have a real yen for the role.  The 12th doctor just seems befuddled and sullen with none of the charm the character is known for.  And the writing has noticeably gone downhill.  I think I'm going to call it quits on the series for a while.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Solitary on September 07, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
Lately, I've been watching, Under the Dome. Even though I missed the entire season 1, it's pretty easy to get into. The negative side: I find no particular character interesting; the positive side: Stephen King has kept the tempo just about right to keep up with the intrigue. So I'll be watching for a little while to see if it builds up nicely.
It is interesting with intriguing plot twists.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on September 08, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
Doctor Who's off to a pretty rocky start this season.  I really, really liked David Tennant and Matt Smith.  They were wacky, adventurous Doctors and the actors seemed to have a real yen for the role.  The 12th doctor just seems befuddled and sullen with none of the charm the character is known for.  And the writing has noticeably gone downhill.  I think I'm going to call it quits on the series for a while.
I only saw the first episode so far this season. I hope the writing picks up...

I'm not sure how I feel about the new Doctor's character yet, so I won't say anything about that. I was a HUGE fan of Matt Smith's character and also a pretty big fan of Tennant's Doctor. I guess we will see how the rest of the season plays out.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: antediluvian on September 08, 2014, 02:34:44 PM
"The Overlander" STARZ.   Checkitout
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Jutter on September 08, 2014, 03:59:32 PM
Breaking Bad lives up to the hype. Great series. Best dramady I've seen since St Elsewhere.
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Post by: Shiranu on September 08, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
Seeing Overlander, watching Outlander from Starz. It's pretty good, English woman get's teleported back from 1940s Post-ww2 England into 1740's or so Scotland, right before the Jacobite uprising. It's mostly a culture clash where this strong, independent woman who was a combat medic is now having to blend into this very macho, misogynistic culture that is at war with "her" people.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 16, 2014, 03:02:27 AM
I started seeing Brooklyn nine nine.
It's hilarious, but for some reason, I can't watch an entire episode in one go. Perhaps sometimes it's just a bit too ridiculous for my taste.
Would recommend though.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 21, 2014, 01:52:00 AM
So I binged Doctor Who to see if it got any better.

After some really, really horrible episodes...  (Seriously, if I showed a complete newbie the Robots Of Sherwood or Listen, they would probably never watch the show again.  The TARDIS is essentially an infinite adventure seed - you can write whatever conflict you want literally anywhere/anywhen and have the Doctor get caught up in it - practically limitless potential wasted on really underwhelming episodes featuring Robin Hood then the Boogieman.  And really, evolution makes perfect predators and perfect hiders now?!  *Charles Darwin spinning in his grave*)

...THE SHOW GETS BETTER!

From Flatline to the finale is golden.  I think my main issue was that it's such a dreadfully cantankerous and unlikable Doctor, underwhelming villains, and complete lack of an overarching plot.  There's no real mystery or epicness, there's just stuff not happening then occasionally happening then it's over.  Woo hoo.  But thankfully, that all changed.

In Flatline, the Doctor is indisposed and Clara Oswald is trying to save the world against some actually pretty strange and unnerving alien invaders.  Then there's an okay episode involving lots and lots of trees.  Then there's the two-part finale, the very first episode this season that actually got me excited:

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And what's more, the Cybermen make their grand return.  I've always liked them.  They're very dispassionate and no-nonsense villains.  They destroy and assimilate.  They can curbstomp any army on the world and they're hilariously logical and matter-of-fact.  They're not too bright, but that doesn't matter when they have a good leader.  There's just so much about them that's strangely likeable rather than horrifying.  Sign me up for an upgrade!  *cranks up The Lion Sleeps Tonight and takes his place in the queue, marching in time with the song*
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on January 14, 2015, 07:00:44 PM
Doctor Who and QI.

I really like (or at least want to like) Capaldi, but I'm still far more a fan of Classic Who than I am of New Who.  I haven't seen the last several episodes of this season, but things seemed to be (finally) turning around.

Then again, after 'Kill the Moon', they HAD to get better, since that is a serious contender for the title of the single worst episode in the entire 51 year history of the show.


QI remains strong and just gets better year after year (though I dislike this year's bonus topic).


Outside of those two I stick with my DVDs, and BBC Radio 4.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: _Xenu_ on January 14, 2015, 09:14:05 PM
Just finished rewatching Buffy not too long ago. Now watching Sons of Anarchy on Netflix.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 14, 2015, 09:24:22 PM
So I binged Doctor Who to see if it got any better.

After some really, really horrible episodes...  (Seriously, if I showed a complete newbie the Robots Of Sherwood or Listen, they would probably never watch the show again.  The TARDIS is essentially an infinite adventure seed - you can write whatever conflict you want literally anywhere/anywhen and have the Doctor get caught up in it - practically limitless potential wasted on really underwhelming episodes featuring Robin Hood then the Boogieman.  And really, evolution makes perfect predators and perfect hiders now?!  *Charles Darwin spinning in his grave*)

...THE SHOW GETS BETTER!

From Flatline to the finale is golden.  I think my main issue was that it's such a dreadfully cantankerous and unlikable Doctor, underwhelming villains, and complete lack of an overarching plot.  There's no real mystery or epicness, there's just stuff not happening then occasionally happening then it's over.  Woo hoo.  But thankfully, that all changed.

In Flatline, the Doctor is indisposed and Clara Oswald is trying to save the world against some actually pretty strange and unnerving alien invaders.  Then there's an okay episode involving lots and lots of trees.  Then there's the two-part finale, the very first episode this season that actually got me excited:

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

And what's more, the Cybermen make their grand return.  I've always liked them.  They're very dispassionate and no-nonsense villains.  They destroy and assimilate.  They can curbstomp any army on the world and they're hilariously logical and matter-of-fact.  They're not too bright, but that doesn't matter when they have a good leader.  There's just so much about them that's strangely likeable rather than horrifying.  Sign me up for an upgrade!  *cranks up The Lion Sleeps Tonight and takes his place in the queue, marching in time with the song*

It's something you have to watch and invest in. Once you get in a groove of watching Doctor Who, it really grows on you. Ironically, that is the reason I don't really care about it anymore. They've taken so long to make new episodes. They do one a week for a few weeks and then the show is MIA for a the rest of the year.

I wonder why that is why I don't like Capaldi....


on another note, I just started binge watching 1992's Batman The Animated Series
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on January 14, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
I wonder why that is why I don't like Capaldi....

That's the great thing about the show, there's pretty much a Doctor for everyone.  I think Capaldi has great potential... but he hasn't lived up to it yet.  That's more an issue with the scripts than it is the performer -- the scripting was why I came to dislike the Tennant era, not the actor.

I'd like to see the show return to its old system of having a producer and a separate script editor.  We know Moff and Mark Gatiss work well together (Exhibit A: Sherlock) -- that might be a solution.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 15, 2015, 12:31:30 AM
That's the great thing about the show, there's pretty much a Doctor for everyone.  I think Capaldi has great potential... but he hasn't lived up to it yet.  That's more an issue with the scripts than it is the performer -- the scripting was why I came to dislike the Tennant era, not the actor.

I'd like to see the show return to its old system of having a producer and a separate script editor.  We know Moff and Mark Gatiss work well together (Exhibit A: Sherlock) -- that might be a solution.
That is true. Everyone has a different doctor that they have as their favorite. I personally liked Matt Smith's doctor over the popular choice of Tennant's 10th doctor, but hey... lol I do like the new master though. She's pretty nuts as she is supposed to be.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 15, 2015, 01:27:57 AM
I liked David Tennant slightly more than Matt Smith.  But Matt Smith really grew on me.  I loved seeing them onscreen together.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 15, 2015, 01:36:07 AM
I liked David Tennant slightly more than Matt Smith.  But Matt Smith really grew on me.  I loved seeing them onscreen together.
Matt Smith officially became my favorite with this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUZ50cAk_Lk
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 15, 2015, 03:08:56 AM
I just realized that the guy who plays the 12th Doctor was in The Fires of Pompeii episode as a native.  Wow.
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Post by: trdsf on January 15, 2015, 04:06:16 AM
And what's more, the Cybermen make their grand return.  I've always liked them.  They're very dispassionate and no-nonsense villains.  They destroy and assimilate.  They can curbstomp any army on the world and they're hilariously logical and matter-of-fact.  They're not too bright, but that doesn't matter when they have a good leader.  There's just so much about them that's strangely likeable rather than horrifying.  Sign me up for an upgrade!  *cranks up The Lion Sleeps Tonight and takes his place in the queue, marching in time with the song*

I always thought the originalmost Cybermen were the creepiest -- when they spoke, the actor would just drop their mouth open and then they would dub in a slightly frotzed monotone.  Very effective -- they did some very clever things back when they Beeb only gave them an effects budget of 6d... and expected change.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: wolf39us on January 15, 2015, 10:22:44 AM
Breaking Bad lives up to the hype. Great series. Best dramady I've seen since St Elsewhere.

This show was absolutely amazing.  I would recommend to anyone!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Desdinova on January 15, 2015, 10:28:30 AM
This show was absolutely amazing.  I would recommend to anyone!


Tell me about it.  I binge watched for about a month.  Once I finished it I had withdrawal symptoms.  Funny thing about this show is that it makes you feel so damned uncomfortable at times.  You almost fell like you shouldn't be watching but you HAVE to just to see what happens next.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 15, 2015, 11:01:52 AM
I'm binge watching Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis for the third time.  That's 15 years of episodes.  SG1 starts slow with some mundane episodes covering political issues that would seem more appropriate when the series started, but the episodes become more creative as the series progresses and keeps gaining strength through the last year.  I love how the false gods of primitive societies in the series so closely reflect the gods of Earth that are in vogue today.  The series constantly slams the ignorance involved in worshiping higher powers and probes the psychology of belief systems.  I'm guessing such insights would be censored by TV executives today.  I'll bet a dollar the writers were atheists. 
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Post by: Hydra009 on January 15, 2015, 12:31:15 PM
I really liked SG-1 and Atlantis, too.  The funny thing is, I snubbed SG-1 for years because it seemed like low-budget crap for its first few seasons.  I think it was season 4 that I finally got into it. 

I also thought the premise was a bit odd.  I mean, millions of people worshiping someone posing as a divine being and turning hostile the moment you speak against their belief?  Where do they come up with this stuff!

Atlantis was much better show, imho.  Less budget problems, a fresh setting, a more regular cast (looking at you, Michael Shanks) and Canadian know-how.  :P
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Post by: Shiranu on January 15, 2015, 02:34:53 PM
I'm just going to throw it out that I really did not care for Breaking Bad... it was okay, but way over hyped. To each their own.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 15, 2015, 02:45:58 PM
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I really liked SG-1 and Atlantis, too.  The funny thing is, I snubbed SG-1 for years because it seemed like low-budget crap for its first few seasons.  I think it was season 4 that I finally got into it. 

I also thought the premise was a bit odd.  I mean, millions of people worshiping someone posing as a divine being and turning hostile the moment you speak against their belief?  Where do they come up with this stuff!

Atlantis was much better show, imho.  Less budget problems, a fresh setting, a more regular cast (looking at you, Michael Shanks) and Canadian know-how.  :P

Yes, around season four they started to hit their stride, and during this last time through, I was paying attention trying to determine the point where it starts to take off.  It's more like a transition.  I could never name a particular episode.  It's just a crew finding their way.

And odd it is for sure.  You've got aliens with advanced technology like space ships and advanced weapons (but no aiming devices), and most of the time, they are living in tents and wearing animals skins and burlap with iron breast plates.  Huh?  I think what makes these incongruities tolerable is that the writing and the cast don't make any pretense at taking the whole thing seriously.  Some of the romantic interludes are loaded with sap to the point where I'll roll my eyes, and some of the episodes that are devoted to humor almost border on slapstick.  But through it all, it's still an engaging series that has a serious side to it in spite of all the "Aw, come on now" liberties it takes.

SG1 ran for 10 years, and while it was on, I never watched it.  I missed SG Atlantis, too.  I think I knew about them, but never bothered watching.  Atlantis has more polish and higher production values.  The Wraith that feed on humans are bit over the top for aliens, but the writers create interesting scenarios with them and thereby do a good job of salvaging something that tests the limits of believability.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 15, 2015, 02:56:33 PM
I'm just going to throw it out that I really did not care for Breaking Bad... it was okay, but way over hyped. To each their own.
Yes, nothing is going to be liked by everyone.  But having said that, I thought it was a work of art.  Although, I hated just about every character the writers created, at least at one time or another.  I finally ended up liking Jesse, even though he was a total loser, and I liked Walter White eventually, but I wanted to throttle both of them for never being able to do anything right for the first few episodes.  Oh wait.  I liked the shyster lawyer, Saul.  I always liked him.  Every episode he was in, was better for having him in it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 15, 2015, 03:44:34 PM
You've got aliens with advanced technology like space ships and advanced weapons (but no aiming devices), and most of the time, they are living in tents and wearing animals skins and burlap with iron breast plates.  Huh?  I think what makes these incongruities tolerable is that the writing and the cast don't make any pretense at taking the whole thing seriously.
What I loved about the Goa'uld was having a bunch of braziers in a space ship perfectly capable of electric lighting.  They had style.

And one thing that irked me is they have Teal'c say that the Christian God couldn't have been a Goa'uld.  Because he most definitely could have been.  "I am your celestial father!  Love me more than even your own family!  You shall have no other god before me!"  Killing off the rival Baal worshippers makes total sense.  Jesus could've been a subservient Goa'uld who broke away from his Father and was captured and executed.  And all the good stuff was from a Tok'ra who impersonated him before he could be revived or "ressurrected".

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SG1 ran for 10 years, and while it was on, I never watched it.  I missed SG Atlantis, too.  I think I knew about them, but never bothered watching.  Atlantis has more polish and higher production values.  The Wraith that feed on humans are bit over the top for aliens, but the writers create interesting scenarios with them and thereby do a good job of salvaging something that tests the limits of believability.
I liked the Wraith because they aren't evil for the hell of it, they have to feed on humans or they will die.  And they don't view what they're doing as wrong any more than we'd view having a steak as wrong.

That and I really liked Ford.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Desdinova on January 15, 2015, 04:50:49 PM
Did anyone ever catch Deadwood on HBO?  I've been watching it on Amazon and really like it.  I don't ever remember it being on back in the mid 2000's.
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Post by: eylul on January 15, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
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Post by: PJS on January 19, 2015, 03:10:03 PM
Finished all five seasons of The Wire recently. The show takes on big issues associated with urban America in a realistic and dark way. Somehow it doesn't depress but is incredibly intense and well worth watching. I can't think of a better or more important American drama. The character development and unfolding narratives are masterpieces. Each year takes a different slice of a city (Baltimore) but all themes intertwine.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 19, 2015, 04:20:38 PM
I just realized that the guy who plays the 12th Doctor was in The Fires of Pompeii episode as a native.  Wow.
They said that they are going to keep that in mind and somehow work that in to the story. Plus, Karen Gillen, the girl that played Amy Pond is also in that episode.
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Post by: Solitary on January 19, 2015, 04:46:37 PM
I've been watching a BBC series called Father Brown. Worth watching. Solitary
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Post by: Shiranu on January 19, 2015, 05:28:30 PM
Watching "The Tudors"... so, so very good.
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Post by: PickelledEggs on January 19, 2015, 06:04:57 PM
Watching "The Tudors"... so, so very good.
What channel is that on? I heard it was really good from a few different people.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on January 19, 2015, 06:11:16 PM
What channel is that on? I heard it was really good from a few different people.

Eh... the internet? :P

No but I think ShowTime. It's several years old now, but it's been really good... alot of European social-maneuvering and plotting and what not.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 19, 2015, 06:11:53 PM
Eh... the internet? [emoji14]

No but I think ShowTime. It's several years old now, but it's been really good... alot of European social-maneuvering and plotting and what not.
I have that channel. Lol

Sent from your mom.

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Post by: Mermaid on January 19, 2015, 08:22:49 PM
Downton Abbey!? Nobody else?

It's fantastic.
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Post by: SGOS on January 20, 2015, 08:17:51 AM
Downton Abbey!? Nobody else?

I love it.  I don't have TV so I watch it as soon as last season's DVDs are released.  I wait all year for this to happen, and  then I watch the whole season in one day.  Then I re-watch the whole series a week later, and then try to find some way to occupy myself for another year.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on January 20, 2015, 02:36:53 PM
I hear alot about it, but have never gotten around to watching it. Is it pre- or post- World Wars?
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Post by: PickelledEggs on January 20, 2015, 02:55:00 PM
I actually really enjoyed Downtown Abbey for the first couple episodes I watched... but then I started Orphan Black and immediately forgot about Downtown Abbey
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Post by: SGOS on January 21, 2015, 07:40:12 AM
I hear alot about it, but have never gotten around to watching it. Is it pre- or post- World Wars?
It starts before WWI, and overlaps the war for a couple of seasons.  The war ends and things at the Abbey go back to normal, which involves saving the Abbey and the aristocratic way of life that is threatened by modern times.

By the way, this is not a scenario that presents the aristocracy as evil.  The Downton Abbey family is actually quite wonderful and well liked by the servants who the owners of the Abbey feel a deep sense of responsibility for.  Of course, everyone is influenced by Victorian ideals that continually create problems with reality, and various social issues of the time period form sub plots throughout the series. 
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Post by: gussy on January 22, 2015, 10:45:09 PM
I'm going to heap a little more praise on The Wire.  I just finished it too and had to watch it again.  It takes place in Baltimore but it could be any city that has been experiencing urban decay.  It follows the police, drug dealers, white working class unions, politicians, schools and newspapers.  It is a window into these organizations that gives you an idea of their true workings.  It isn't pretty and the "good guys" rarely win but there are enough satisfying moments that it doesn't become too depressing.  Sometimes the story lines can get a little confusing but this is done intentionally.  Reading a Wiki recap of the episode afterwards can clear up any confusion.  Definitely worth the investment of time tough. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: gussy on January 22, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
New episodes of The Trailer Park Boys on Netflix.  After a long hiatus this show is back. Most of the cast is back too.  The formula is the same, the boys trying to stay out of jail while doing just about everything to get thrown back in.  It's on pay TV and the censorship is pretty much nonexistent this time around.  It can get a little greasy but sometimes life is greasy. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 23, 2015, 01:07:05 AM
New episodes of The Trailer Park Boys on Netflix.  After a long hiatus this show is back. Most of the cast is back too.  The formula is the same, the boys trying to stay out of jail while doing just about everything to get thrown back in.  It's on pay TV and the censorship is pretty much nonexistent this time around.  It can get a little greasy but sometimes life is greasy. 
YES! I thought I was the only person on the forum that watched TPB. No one gets my references and in fact, the reason I got my self sick (unintentionally) from pickled eggs and thus dubbed myself pickelledeggs is because of Bubble's love for the tasty fuckers.


(http://i.imgur.com/9K7wobN.gif)

BTW. If there are any stand-out details, don't reveal them. I have to download the series still and watch it...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mermaid on January 23, 2015, 07:42:16 AM
We've been watching Weeds. It started out pretty good but appears to be jumping the shark in the 5th season.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 23, 2015, 07:20:39 PM
We've been watching Weeds. It started out pretty good but appears to be jumping the shark in the 5th season.
weeds is a great show. i only saw a few seasons though because i discontinued Netflix...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on January 23, 2015, 08:58:03 PM
We've been watching Weeds. It started out pretty good but appears to be jumping the shark in the 5th season.

I really liked Weeds, but yeah I stopped watching around season 4 and never picked it back up so I don't know how well it ends.
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Post by: trdsf on January 24, 2015, 08:01:16 AM
Finally got caught up on the most recent Doctor Who (except for the holiday episode).

Definitely finding its feet again after a rough start.  Capaldi is growing on me.  The final two-parter was good, and I was delighted to have guessed right about the identity of Missy.  Still not as good as the Classic series.  And I don't care what the BBC says, this was Season 35, not Series 8, and Capaldi is the 14th Doctor, not the 12th.


--signed, a grumpy old Whovian who knows how to count.
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Post by: Hydra009 on January 26, 2015, 01:44:45 AM
Archer is back!  Sploosh!

I started rewatching the old episodes.  My favorite is when Archer casually whips out a gun on a plane and a sky marshal draws his pistol thinking that it's a hijacking.  Archer's response?  "It's okay, we're from ISIS"

Hahaha.  Classic Archer.
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Post by: PJS on February 16, 2015, 07:14:41 PM
Other than The Wire, the best show I've seen in the past year or two is probably Six Feet Under. Kind of a dark comedy,  well written and very well acted.
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Post by: Deidre32 on March 26, 2015, 03:47:56 PM
I think this weekend, I'll finally watch Walking Dead. lol I've not seen one episode of this! ^_^
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Post by: Desdinova on March 26, 2015, 04:48:04 PM
I think this weekend, I'll finally watch Walking Dead. lol I've not seen one episode of this! ^_^

Let me know how you like it! As a reader of the graphic novels, I though I would hate it.  But its a really good show.
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Post by: Desdinova on March 26, 2015, 05:00:28 PM
I started watching Spartacus: Blood and Sand recently.  Its' OK, not really impressed so far.  Lots of bewbs, so that's good I guess.  Lot's of penises too.
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Post by: C172 on April 09, 2015, 01:06:41 PM
I don't watch anything too regularly. Sports (soccer, mainly [MLS and CONCACAF mainly]), news (local or CNN), C-SPAN, Weather Channel.

Don't ever accept an invite to party at my house.
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Post by: antediluvian on April 09, 2015, 11:37:28 PM
True Detective - HBO
Fortitude - Pivot
Better Call Saul - AMC
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Post by: trdsf on April 12, 2015, 03:23:50 AM
I don't watch anything too regularly. Sports (soccer, mainly [MLS and CONCACAF mainly]), news (local or CNN), C-SPAN, Weather Channel.

Don't ever accept an invite to party at my house.
The Weather Channel is one of the few things I miss about cable.  Haven't had it in ten years (cancelled it shortly after getting an XM satellite radio, which service I still have).  I may get me a Netflix membership, though.  It's a damn sight cheaper than $50/month for cable that I rarely watched, for movies and TV that I can specifically choose.  I miss Mythbusters too, after all.  And I've seen the first episode of "House of Cards" and really want to see the rest.  Much to my surprise, it was actually as good as the original BBC version.
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Post by: Hydra009 on June 03, 2015, 08:36:18 PM
Any of you guys watch Vikings?  The pilot was pretty lackluster, but after a few episodes, I really started to get into it, and I'm glad I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZnDBlWNFi0

This one scene made me a fan of this series.  Vikings raid church.  The aptly-named Floki (he's the very image of the trickster god) drinks the communion wine out of curiosity at first, and then just to cheese off the churchgoers after seeing their reactions.  It's funny how they're more horrified over the wine than the butchery.

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/7e39b85e893860ffd7b76eab779fd5c7/tumblr_n2ftyrsZMi1rjn473o1_250.gif)

In short, Floki ftw.
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Post by: Shiranu on June 20, 2015, 11:09:45 PM
Binge watching M*A*S*H*.
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Post by: kilodelta on June 22, 2015, 05:28:08 PM
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Plus "Kyle, my guitar, gently weeps." What?
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Post by: peacewithoutgod on September 15, 2015, 12:51:46 PM
Game of Thrones is the only fantasy-themed show which I have really taken an interest in other than the Star Wars saga, mostly because it deals more with the grim realities of medieval politics, and the influence which religion has on this. The books are excellently written, if a bit long, and although I've read them all at least once, I still look forward to the show when it resumes.

Also I have been tracking The Americans, Homeland, Archer, Better Call Saul, House of Cards, and Real Time.
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 15, 2015, 01:58:18 PM
Game of Thrones is the only fantasy-themed show which I have really taken an interest in other than the Star Wars saga, mostly because it deals more with the grim realities of medieval politics, and the influence which religion has on this. The books are excellently written, if a bit long, and although I've read them all at least once, I still look forward to the show when it resumes.
I actually don't know of any non-GoT fantasy-themed tv shows at all except for Legend of the Seeker, which was pretty okay.  I guess it depends on how you define fantasy, which I take to mean a medieval setting with swords and sorcery.

While nothing can really match GoT, I've liked Vikings and Rome, two shows that sort of have a similar format.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on September 15, 2015, 02:49:33 PM
Has anyone seen this? The pilot is out.

Our lucifer gives the finger to the upstairs and takes a vacation in LA and after an incident decides to solve crimes with a former actress hot chick dedective. And of course, he speaks with a British accent.  :rotflmao:  Looks like it could be a new dumb soap to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4bF_quwNtw

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Post by: CrucifyCindy on September 17, 2015, 12:49:54 PM
Has anyone seen this? The pilot is out.

Our lucifer gives the finger to the upstairs and takes a vacation in LA and after an incident decides to solve crimes with a former actress hot chick dedective. And of course, he speaks with a British accent.  :rotflmao:  Looks like it could be a new dumb soap to watch.




It doesn't look very faithful to it's source material.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on September 17, 2015, 01:19:01 PM
It doesn't look very faithful to it's source material.

So, I have heard. I haven't read the comics (yet).

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/How-Lucifer-Going-Different-From-Comic-Books-73477.html

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If you’re coming to Lucifer to see the comic book, you are not going to see it. Let it go.
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Post by: CrucifyCindy on September 17, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
So, I have heard. I haven't read the comics (yet).

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/How-Lucifer-Going-Different-From-Comic-Books-73477.html

I will be taking a pass on this one because. Imagine if they made a Sandman tv show where Morpheus is some sort of hipster detective
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Post by: drunkenshoe on September 17, 2015, 03:27:10 PM
I will be taking a pass on this one because. Imagine if they made a Sandman tv show where Morpheus is some sort of hipster detective

Murder and mayhem would ensue in a global scale! And I would support it. They wouldn't daaaare!

I think they find Lucifer more suitable to play with as it's a spin off. Death and Lucifer feels more like Gaiman's way of keeping the sandman lot happy because it was wanted too much. Could they play Death the same way? Don't think so, she is family.

Yes, it is unfair to the work, but it is Hollywood, so who knows what will they choose fuck over next. Money.


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Post by: peacewithoutgod on September 17, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
I actually don't know of any non-GoT fantasy-themed tv shows at all except for Legend of the Seeker, which was pretty okay.  I guess it depends on how you define fantasy, which I take to mean a medieval setting with swords and sorcery.

While nothing can really match GoT, I've liked Vikings and Rome, two shows that sort of have a similar format.
On "fantasy", I tend to lump in tales of vampires, zombies, and werewolves because they've been moving more toward fantasy than horror. Another format they now combine is the soap opera...WTFE, take your pick of those themes, the volume of such series are boundless, and I can do without any of them.
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 17, 2015, 04:48:49 PM
I tend to lump all that stuff together under speculative fiction, and then assign subcategories as needed.  True, a lot of series with zombies/vampires/werewolves aren't horror as it is normally understood (intended to frighten)
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Post by: CrucifyCindy on September 18, 2015, 12:40:17 AM
Murder and mayhem would ensue in a global scale! And I would support it. They wouldn't daaaare!

I think they find Lucifer more suitable to play with as it's a spin off. Death and Lucifer feels more like Gaiman's way of keeping the sandman lot happy because it was wanted too much. Could they play Death the same way? Don't think so, she is family.

Yes, it is unfair to the work, but it is Hollywood, so who knows what will they choose fuck over next. Money.

I am kinda hoping that the DC Cinema Universe does include the Endless in some way. In fact I think they should be included if not that then let the DC Television Universe include them. I would love to see Destiny show up on Arrow (Constantine is coming back on Arrow by the way). But just do it right, it is all I ask...respect the source material.
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Post by: Draconic Aiur on September 18, 2015, 07:18:51 AM
Im at season 8 of supernatural
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Post by: drunkenshoe on September 18, 2015, 07:39:40 AM
I am kinda hoping that the DC Cinema Universe does include the Endless in some way. In fact I think they should be included if not that then let the DC Television Universe include them. I would love to see Destiny show up on Arrow (Constantine is coming back on Arrow by the way). But just do it right, it is all I ask...respect the source material.

They will. But I don't want to see Endless mixed up with others honestly. They can make spin offs with one by one or include them within some other fantasy I don't care. The should make Sandman first. I also think that is a good way respecting the source material.




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Post by: Shiranu on December 27, 2015, 08:37:27 PM
Binging Stargate Atlantis now... I remembered watching it as a kid and going back... I think it's good in a very nostalgia way.
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Post by: Hydra009 on December 27, 2015, 09:30:17 PM
Binging Stargate Atlantis now... I remembered watching it as a kid and going back... I think it's good in a very nostalgia way.
Oh man, I must've watched that series three times over, it was that good.  I liked how it had a separate but not completely disconnected existence from SG1 - so it can have its own setting and events but still draw upon Stargate lore (and occasionally, personnel).  I liked its general aesthetic - the sleek and high-tech Atlantis and Vancouver forest was really easy on the eyes.  And unlike SG1, it actually had the budget for great CGI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iMHh9Utm8Y).

The main cast was superb and had great chemistry.  Even the banter between Shepherd and Rodney was enjoyable.  They had some great moments together. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnikmqBJefw)

It had amazing villains.  The Wraith.  The Genii.  The Replicators.  Michael.  Todd (sorta).

Favorite episode by far:  Mortal Coil.  It really humanized the Replicators.  :P

Did it have its flaws?  Totally.  As soon as Teyla got knocked up, her character did a nosedive.  They did this ridiculous "but Teyla, you can't go on the mission! What about the baby?" stuff over and over again.  Most of the romance was fucking horrid, almost soap operaish at times.  I hated Lucious Lavin and was pretty underwhelmed by the Travelers.  The final confrontation with Michael was stupid.  The last season was really off in general, I don't know exactly how to describe it, but it felt off.  And the series finale was a goddamn trainwreck.

Despite its flaws, it was still the best scifi show on television for at least a couple years, imho.
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Post by: gentle_dissident on December 28, 2015, 01:47:56 AM
BattleBots got me to turn the TV on.

Carol Burnett gets my attention. I got the DVD set cheap 2nd hand

I watch Dr Who when the girls are streaming it.

We use an antenna. My GF keeps TV on in the background to deal with her anxiety caused by real life being a dystopia. Thankfully, she watches retro comedy, horror, and ScFi.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on December 28, 2015, 09:31:03 AM
Mom's obssessed with Fargo. I have read that it is really good, but can't look more scared of spoilers. Thinking about starting it, but then may be in vacation time. I haven't even seen Breaking Bad yet. :sad2:
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Post by: stromboli on December 28, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
Currently watching "The Expanse" on Sci Fi channel. Actually pretty good, interesting plots and a fairly realistic future setting of a political/military conflict between Earth, the moon and Mars with the asteroid miners (primarily on Ceres) caught in the middle. Plot devices galore and to me at least, gives a pretty accurate picture of what a near future (post-2300) situation might look like. Doesn't get into laser blasters and other wacky sci fi stuff but concentrates more on the interplay between different groups and a political/police mystery thrown in for good measure. Much better than the average for the sci fi channel.
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Post by: gentle_dissident on December 28, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
I'd like to check out "The Expanse", but SyFy wants me to install the vulnerable Flash. It's also pounding me with pop-unders that say they're my ISP and that I need to call them. It's been a long time since I've had cable, but I remember SciFi being pretty sleazy.
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Post by: stromboli on December 28, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
I'd like to check out "The Expanse", but SyFy wants me to install the vulnerable Flash. It's also pounding me with pop-unders that say they're my ISP and that I need to call them. It's been a long time since I've had cable, but I remember SciFi being pretty sleazy.

Sci fi channel is 95% BS crap. But some of their stuff occasionally raises the bar a tad. This will no doubt come out on DVD at some point or maybe Netflix, so hopefully you will be able to see it.
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Post by: LoriPinkAngel on December 28, 2015, 04:44:58 PM
Mom's obssessed with Fargo. I have read that it is really good, but can't look more scared of spoilers. Thinking about starting it, but then may be in vacation time. I haven't even seen Breaking Bad yet. :sad2:

Both are excellent but you can binge watch Fargo a lot faster than Breaking Bad.
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Post by: Munch on January 11, 2016, 03:44:08 PM
I've finally decided to get into Steven Universe on daily motion. Actually really loving the show.

I kind of came to the decision when I started to see gifs, images and videos of when peridot called yellow diamond a clod.

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/8703b7a000aacb436aca7f8e308cc265/tumblr_inline_o0mip6xJCj1s18x0o_500.gif)

I'd never seen steven universe before, but I knew this moment was awesome anyway.
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Post by: PopeyesPappy on January 11, 2016, 03:56:38 PM
Watched the first 4 episodes of The Shannara Chronicles over the weekend. I read The Sword of Shannara back in the 70s and liked it so I thought TV show might be good. Having a hard time keeping interested though.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on January 11, 2016, 04:26:38 PM
Both are excellent but you can binge watch Fargo a lot faster than Breaking Bad.

Note taken. :)
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Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on January 11, 2016, 11:56:55 PM
RWBY has taken a rather depressing turn these past three episodes. And it looks like it'll only get darker for from here.


Secretly a Warsie.
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Post by: Hydra009 on January 12, 2016, 12:51:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhQVB7SB2o

Heck yes.
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Post by: Shiranu on January 12, 2016, 02:04:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhQVB7SB2o

Heck yes.

I really... really need to catch up with that.

Unrelated note... just watched Legend of Korra episodes beginning 1 and 2... oh my god the art direction and mythology in that episode. One of my favourite episodes of any series ever.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on January 12, 2016, 01:19:54 PM
Watched the first 4 episodes of The Shannara Chronicles over the weekend. I read The Sword of Shannara back in the 70s and liked it so I thought TV show might be good. Having a hard time keeping interested though.

I have just seen this in your post and had no idea what it is. It's not very good, but not very bad either. It is entertaining. It will drag soon though. (I am just watching the first one.)
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Post by: PickelledEggs on January 12, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
I watched Heroes for the first time. It was good. season 1-3 were really good. 4 wasn't as good, but it was ok and still at the least, enjoyable.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on January 12, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
I watched Heroes for the first time. It was good. season 1-3 were really good. 4 wasn't as good, but it was ok and still at the least, enjoyable.

Aw, Heroes. :)
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Post by: drunkenshoe on January 13, 2016, 03:35:03 AM
First disappointment about The Expanse:

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Post by: LoriPinkAngel on January 13, 2016, 10:50:25 AM
There are so many shows I don't get to see because I only have cable with no extras.
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Post by: stromboli on January 13, 2016, 11:08:01 AM
I started watching the Expanse and liked it, but then I got the books and started reading. Haven't seen the last two episodes and I'm already way ahead in the books, on the second volume. I won't ruin it for you, but the story arc is way different than I thought it would be. Stick around, it will get interesting. I pretty much lost interest in the TV series.

There are a lot of mixed race characters in the book, but still too many white people. By that time in the future we should be a much more blended race than now. The Belters in the books are very much a mixed lot. What is also good about the books is they emphasize the physical differences that would occur from people living on earth and others in low gravity. The Belters speak a patois of mixed languages and they are tall and slender, which they would be in low gravity. Also the authors do a very good job of creating a political and cultural climate that is realistic. And the battles are realistic, not Star Trek zap em' with Phasers kind of stuff.

As far as realism, the Expanse does a better job than most of presenting a realistic near future environment. Some aspects of it I don't like, but I'll keep reading.

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Post by: drunkenshoe on January 13, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
I started watching the Expanse and liked it, but then I got the books and started reading. Haven't seen the last two episodes and I'm already way ahead in the books, on the second volume. I won't ruin it for you, but the story arc is way different than I thought it would be. Stick around, it will get interesting. I pretty much lost interest in the TV series.

There are a lot of mixed race characters in the book, but still too many white people. By that time in the future we should be a much more blended race than now. The Belters in the books are very much a mixed lot. What is also good about the books is they emphasize the physical differences that would occur from people living on earth and others in low gravity. The Belters speak a patois of mixed languages and they are tall and slender, which they would be in low gravity. Also the authors do a very good job of creating a political and cultural climate that is realistic. And the battles are realistic, not Star Trek zap em' with Phasers kind of stuff.

As far as realism, the Expanse does a better job than most of presenting a realistic near future environment. Some aspects of it I don't like, but I'll keep reading.

OK. I already liked it.

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Post by: Hydra009 on January 22, 2016, 09:29:10 PM
A couple morally questionable moments in TV shows that I thought I'd share:

In Star Wars Rebels, the rebels get captured and taken aboard an imperial ship.  Inevitably, they spring out of jail and take out the guards.  A stormtrooper has Ezra's lightsaber on his belt.  Ezra activates it and the stormtrooper freaks out, which is understandable given that there's a very hot, very sharp object in extremely close proximity to his groin.  Ezra retrieves his lightsaber and chops the terrified stormtrooper's gun in half and says something to the effect of "Calm down, I'm not going to hurt you."  The rebels clear off the ship and subsequently blow it up, certainly killing everyone aboard, including the previously spared stormtrooper.  Our heroes, ladies and gentlemen.  They won't kill you in cold blood, but they will blow you up.  Seems like a trivial difference.

In X-Men, humans who helped save Wolverine's life get arrested by some government anti-mutant agency, which inexplicably jails them alongside mutant prisoners.  Wolverine springs them from jail, and then springs everyone from jail.  And most of the inmates are mutants and we have no idea if they were justly or unjustly jailed.  For all we know, Wolverine just let out Magneto, Apocalypse, and Mister Sinister.  We just don't know.  Once again, pretty questionable heroics.
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Post by: josephpalazzo on January 23, 2016, 04:38:16 AM
I'm watching "Manhattan". Not completely a loyal depiction of the true events, but it does capture the era. The main character is a composite of different scientists working on the bomb. Oppenheimer is depicted as a creep, don't know how realistic that is. The series has its bag of secrecy, lies and betrayals but its main focus is on the moral dilemma that these scientists were facing at the time -creating a bomb that would change forever the political landscape and also making them in the process monsters.
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Post by: trdsf on January 27, 2016, 01:53:09 PM
There are so many shows I don't get to see because I only have cable with no extras.
I haven't had cable in ten years, and I have yet to see a show come along that makes me miss it.  The only thing at this point that could make me get cable again is if the new MST3K is picked up by a network and isn't easily available to watch online.
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Post by: Munch on February 05, 2016, 02:56:12 PM
Like with Steven Universe, I was late to begin watching Gravity Falls.

Now i'm like -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJI_NIrWnK4
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 05, 2016, 04:19:17 PM
Does anyone have anything on comedy? Not sitcom, but tv series.
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Post by: Draconic Aiur on February 06, 2016, 03:43:49 AM
Supernatural's cool they have rock n roll and demon chicks hell they even had angel chicks with a sex scene!
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Post by: Draconic Aiur on February 06, 2016, 03:48:31 AM
Merlin was good but it ended
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 06, 2016, 04:15:21 AM
Supernatural's cool they have rock n roll and demon chicks hell they even had angel chicks with a sex scene!

I have seen it, except the the last 2 seasons. It was my old soap. I have seen little of Merlin, but didn't get hooked.

I wish we got something really funny and different.

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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 09, 2016, 06:43:20 AM
Merlin had it's moments, but for some reason it always seemed like I wasn't watching the show itself, but rather a fanfic of the show.
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Post by: SGOS on February 09, 2016, 08:59:55 AM
I'd be interested in Better Call Saul.  He was my favorite Character in Breaking Bad, but I don't have Television.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 09, 2016, 09:34:49 AM
I have just started Breaking Bad yesterday for the first time. I am at S2 E3 right now. I love it. 
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Post by: SGOS on February 09, 2016, 09:43:50 AM
I have just started Breaking Bad yesterday for the first time. I am at S2 E3 right now. I love it. 
Has Saul showed up yet?  He comes in around the second or third season.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 09, 2016, 09:59:52 AM
Has Saul showed up yet?  He comes in around the second or third season.

Not yet.
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Post by: aitm on February 09, 2016, 12:40:15 PM
I only watch stuff that makes me laugh. I get enough drama during the day and in the news. So Big Bang Theory and reruns of an assortment of older comedies.....seriously.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 09, 2016, 02:33:27 PM
OK. Saul just arrived.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 14, 2016, 05:07:29 PM
I have just finished the first season of Fargo. It's very good. I heard that the second one wasn't that good, but after that it is pretty normal to think that with anything I guess,lol.

10/10
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Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on February 14, 2016, 08:46:08 PM
Finished watching the season 3 finale of RWBY. More questions than answers, as usual. All that angst and character death from the past month was worth it, though, because we finally got to see Ruby wipe that smug grin off of Cinder's face (http://i.imgur.com/wsFTpmn.gifv).
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Post by: kilodelta on February 15, 2016, 01:09:28 AM
Just started "Better Call Saul." Great beginning.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 15, 2016, 04:41:24 AM
Just started "Better Call Saul." Great beginning.

That character scares the hell out of me. Not funny. He is more dangerous than serial killers and gangsters. I will look at the show though.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 15, 2016, 06:23:38 AM
Started watching "Orange is the new black" with my gf this weekend. She absolutely loves it.
And I admit, it's a really good show. It's well written, engaging, has memorable characters and builds a unique atmosphere.
And yet, it's not quite for me... Somehow, it reminds me of work too much. Still, I will probably end up watching all episodes with the gf, because she hates watching these things alone.
But definitely a recommender for others.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on February 21, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
After a decade, "Malcolm in the Middle" is still funny. Thumbs up!
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 22, 2016, 12:28:38 PM
Gravity Falls is over.  /le sad

Oooh, Vikings!
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Post by: Munch on February 24, 2016, 06:48:36 PM
Just saw the final episode of gravity falls.. oooh man, that was a trip, good idea making the final episode a long one.

Just hope that will revisit the series eventually, the ending hinted a possibility, but dunno what else they can do with it now.

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Post by: drunkenshoe on March 21, 2016, 02:00:06 PM
Where is House of Cards? :/ Thought it would arrive in March.
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Post by: AllRight on March 21, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
Love Blacklist and HTGAWM, also binge watching Breaking Bad. On the lighter side Big Bang Theory, Mike and Molly, Broad City, anything on Adult Swim but Rick and Morty is a fave. Oh yeah, and Bob's Burgers. I know, I watch way too much tv.
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Post by: gentle_dissident on April 07, 2016, 05:21:49 PM
My GF showed me Call the Midwife, and I am hooked and transformed. The show has demonstrated love in a way I can feel and understand. The show also led me to Miranda Hart's show, which makes me laugh.

My unfortunate childhood and the semi-adult path it put me on made me a Jekyll and Hyde. Both my personalities were a nuisance to me. I speak of this in past tense, as these shows have brought me to a beautiful place where I feel whole. I've been spending most of my free time catching up.
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Post by: AkiraTheFighter on April 14, 2016, 07:48:29 PM
Here are some shows I watch:

Face Off
Game Of Thrones
Teen Wolf
Young and Hungry
Baby Daddy
The Goldbergs
The Simpsons
Family Guy
Scorpion
Marvel's Agents of Shield
The Vampire Diaries
My Little Pony
Power Rangers Dino Super Charge
The Big Bang Theory
2 Broke Girls
The Young and the Restless.
Super Sentai
Kamen Rider

In terms of classics I've recently completed all 10 seasons and 2 movies of The X-Files. I think it's a really awesome series from S01 - s06. S07 is where it goes down hill fast. None the less I thought season 8's ending would've been the perfect ending for the show. Unfortunately it has two others seasons and a movie after that. Though season 10 was good.

I'm currently watching The Lone Gunmen. A spin off to The X-Files. The ironic thing about The Lone Gunmen is that in the X-Files the FBI gets supernatural cases, but in The Lone Gunman they get normal cases.

Also I'm watching the 80's sitcom Perfect Strangers. It's ok but it has the same formulator in almost every episode.
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Post by: Nonsensei on April 14, 2016, 08:00:30 PM
I've been pretty depressed about the state of space sci-fi tv. There are some good shows that hit the airwaves every now and again, but most of them get prematurely canceled or never see a second season. Still pretty salty about stargate: universe. Can you believe its actually been over a decade since there was a star trek tv series running? That blows my mind.
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on April 15, 2016, 03:38:25 AM
I watched the first episode of the Wire.. Having been a heroin addict myself that first episode is pretty close to just the type of places I used to hang out in..The big difference is where I lived the police rode stotgun for the dealers I bought my dope from meaning they took money from the dealers to keep the DEA off them..protection racket.. Cops weren't interested in busting dealers when they could afford lawyers..They went for the low hanging fruit..Street level dealers and addicts who couldn't make bail or afford anything other than the Public Pretender..
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Post by: AkiraTheFighter on April 15, 2016, 07:07:31 PM
I've been pretty depressed about the state of space sci-fi tv. There are some good shows that hit the airwaves every now and again, but most of them get prematurely canceled or never see a second season. Still pretty salty about stargate: universe. Can you believe its actually been over a decade since there was a star trek tv series running? That blows my mind.

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Oh it's happening. Rumor has it is that it is taking place in the main universe and not the new movies universe. Which is sad in my opinion cuz I like the new movies and hate the TV series and Old movies.

Here is the showrunner: http://www.superherohype.com/news/364975-bryan-fuller-hired-as-showrunner-for-new-star-trek-series
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Post by: Bluewind on April 18, 2016, 02:50:03 AM
I use to have cable at my old house, but now I have antenna. Here are a few shows off the top of my head...

Shows that will cause me to hurt you if you talk during new episodes (nothing to spoil anything past the pilots)
* iZombie: A cool take on zombies where they can function as normal human beings as long as they eat brains regularly. Eating brains will temporarily give them the dominant personality trait of the person they ate and random visions of their lives. Liv works for the medical examiner's office and pretends to be psychic and helps solve murders while hiding what she really is and looking for a cure. It starts out okay, but gets great.
* Lucifer: The devil one day says FUCK THIS SHIT!, travels to the surface with a demon, and opens a club in LA. His brother who's an angel tries to force him to go back. The devil isn't evil and even has a good side. He finds a detective who is immune to his powers. He and the detective (who has no clue he really is the devil and not just mental) solve murders as Lucifer can get people to tell the truth and reveal their desires. I love how it shows that angels can be bad and Satan can be good. He hates how humans blame him for all their wrongdoing when he has nothing to do with their sin.
Big Bang Theory: It's funny, there's nerd and geek culture (with occasional hiccups), it's popular, and it's been on for years, so if you're just now hearing about it you haven't watched tv in a long time and also haven't read the people who posted before me :P The math on their boards is real math created by real scientists with a real meaning with formulas that actually grow, evolve, and change as the seasons go on which is a cool detail few notice. :)

Shows I watch regularly
The Flash
Gotham
Agent Carter
Family Guy
Legends of Tomorrow (only caught a few episodes, but it's kinda like Doctor Who crossed with The Avengers and a soap opera)
Reruns of The Closer and M*A*S*H

Shows that make me miss cable that I will be buying on DVD
Doctor Who
Rick & Morty
Archer
Another Period
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 18, 2016, 03:47:04 AM
I've been pretty depressed about the state of space sci-fi tv. There are some good shows that hit the airwaves every now and again, but most of them get prematurely canceled or never see a second season. Still pretty salty about stargate: universe. Can you believe its actually been over a decade since there was a star trek tv series running? That blows my mind.
Yeah, there's definitely a dearth lately.  It's feast or famine with scifi shows.  Sometimes, there's a bunch of em.  Sometimes, there's hardly any.  Right now, superheroes and fantasy are waxing and scifi is waning.  It might be a while till we get a slew of scifi shows, but they're coming.
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Post by: AkiraTheFighter on April 19, 2016, 12:16:18 AM
Completed "The Lone Gunmen" today and that was a disappointing series. Even though the show takes place in The X-Files universe, majority of the episodes are your basic CSI Miami type. The Lone Gunmen hardly go out in the field and when they do there is rare any action or thriller in them. Heck most of the action is doe by some one who's not a lone gunman, Ms Eve Adelle Harlet. Though coming up to the final 5 or so eps, they started to include some of the supernatural and mythology of the X-Files in it. And the action started to pic up a bit. But what I really didn't like is that the 12 episode ended on cliffhanger "To Be Continued" included in the end  and then the 13th and final episode is a filler ignoring what happened in the previous ep. And though the show was partly resolved in The X-Files Season 9 episode "Jump The Shark" and even though the 13th episodes is one of my most relatable ep in The Lone Gunmen, they could've used ep 13 to give it a good ending. a 2/5 in my book.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on July 08, 2016, 06:41:46 AM
Has anyone seen the new show "The Night of"? Not available anywhere yet. I am curious.
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Post by: Hydra009 on July 08, 2016, 01:40:02 PM
I've been on a history kick lately, and I was delighted to see that the History Channel still occasionally covers actual history.  They have a program called Barbarians Rising, which covers some of the famous enemies of the Roman empire:  Spartacus, Hannibal, Attila, Boudica, Geiseric, etc.

It's probably best to look at this as a work of historical fiction rather than a completely historically accurate depiction of events.  Historically, the Vandal sack of Rome was relatively bloodless, but the show has Geiseric stepping over tons of fleshly-slain citizens of Rome.  My biggest gripe is that Atilla is played as a bloodthirsty psychopath who leads purely by fear, which doesn't really jive with the historical accounts (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/nice-things-to-say-about-attila-the-hun-87559701/) - "a lover of war, yet restrained in action, mighty in counsel, gracious to suppliants and lenient to those who were once received into his protection."

Also, it's a bit bizarre to see CEOs and civil rights activists give commentary on historical figures.  When you need someone to talk about Hannibal, your first thought isn't to call up Jessie Jackson.

But the great thing about the miniseries is that some of the actors are top notch.  The actor who played Geiseric, Richard Brake, stole the show.  He seemed awfully familiar, so I looked him up.

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Same guy.
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Post by: trdsf on July 28, 2016, 12:15:10 AM
It's official, the revived MST3K has a home, and it's going to be on Netflix!

('Course, I was in on the kickstarter so I'm getting all the eps as free downloads anyway, but still, this is great news that they found a distributor!)
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Post by: JBCuzISaidSo on July 28, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
Wait, there's other TV besides Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead?

I suppose so......

Please also try:
* Preacher (AMC) http://www.amc.com/shows/preacher (http://www.amc.com/shows/preacher)
 -- Excellent, comic book based, dark and fun. I have high hopes for this one.
* Hell On Wheels (AMC) (just ended forever last week so start at 1/1) http://www.amc.com/shows/hell-on-wheels (http://www.amc.com/shows/hell-on-wheels)
-- Western. Outstanding cast, amazing characters, great show. You fucking missed it by days, asshole.
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Post by: Cavebear on October 26, 2016, 01:52:11 AM
What is wrong with Bob's Burgers!
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on November 13, 2016, 07:01:27 AM
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Oh it's happening. Rumor has it is that it is taking place in the main universe and not the new movies universe. Which is sad in my opinion cuz I like the new movies and hate the TV series and Old movies.

Here is the showrunner: http://www.superherohype.com/news/364975-bryan-fuller-hired-as-showrunner-for-new-star-trek-series
Except for the pilot, it's not going to be on TV though. It's supposed to be an online steaming thingy.
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on November 13, 2016, 07:03:57 AM
Just watched the pilot episode of Westworld. Awesome. Anthony Hopkins plays a major role. I plan on watching the second episode today.
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Post by: SGOS on November 13, 2016, 09:05:11 AM
Just watched the pilot episode of Westworld. Awesome. Anthony Hopkins plays a major role. I plan on watching the second episode today.

I'll have to wait for the DVDs, but the first Westworld (there were two, right?), was a highly entertaining movie.  An absolutely great premise and storyline.
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on November 13, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
It's pretty interesting. Very well done. In one scene near the end, an actor has to sit naked in a chair, facing Anthony Hopkins, and do a really intense act, as a robot who is having a malfunction, possibly becoming sentient.
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Post by: Hydra009 on November 13, 2016, 10:38:17 AM
Just watched the pilot episode of Westworld. Awesome. Anthony Hopkins plays a major role. I plan on watching the second episode today.
QFT.  Ed Harris is amazing, too.

For anyone who isn't familiar with Westworld, it's a really great show that I unfortunately can't discuss much without spoiling the hell out of it.  My spoiler-free synopsis is that it's like Deadwood mixed with Fallout 4.

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Post by: Solomon Zorn on November 15, 2016, 04:44:22 PM
Watched the second episode of Westworld.
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on November 15, 2016, 05:54:56 PM
Back in 1999, Frank Miller's and Geoff Darrow's Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot, became an animated series. I taped it, at the time, on VHS, but they are not very high quality tapes.

They were good enough, though, for me to watch them, and Silver Surfer, another great Fox animated series, years later, with my great nephew. Big Guy and Rusty went for 26 episodes, and Silver Surfer went for 13.

I just discovered that both have been released on DVD this year. My question is...DVD...why? I need a Blu-Ray disc! :blank:
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Post by: Hydra009 on November 15, 2016, 06:18:30 PM
Watched the second episode of Westworld.
Just caught the latest episode.  I didn't know if I'd really get into it until about episode 5.  Episode 6 cemented it.  It's a keeper.

When you get caught up, check out the theories.  Some of the fan speculations blew my mind.
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Post by: GSOgymrat on November 18, 2016, 01:32:52 AM
I finally got around to binge watching Stranger Things. Very good show.

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Post by: Hydra009 on November 18, 2016, 07:02:17 AM
I finally got around to binge watching Stranger Things. Very good show.
I watched one episode a day until about halfway through, then I watched it all one night.  It just gets so good.  I'm jonesing for season 2 so bad.
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Post by: Shiranu on November 18, 2016, 07:17:08 AM
Westworld. Oh my god, HBO, calm down with the outstanding series.
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Post by: Hydra009 on November 18, 2016, 09:00:02 AM
Westworld. Oh my god, HBO, calm down with the outstanding series.
I know, right?

The craziest thing about the series is that aside from a few glimpses of a train station, we have absolutely no idea of what things are like in the world outside the facility.  Or even if there's an outside world.

In fact, the guests for the facility arrive by train in an eeriely similar manner as the Westworld guests arrive by locomotive...
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Post by: SGOS on November 18, 2016, 09:48:59 AM
For what it's worth, and freely admitting it's irrelevant anyway, in the movie, I believe the actual arrival into West World was by stage coach.  The general area, Delos, consisted of three different theme parks separated by what looked a lot like California desert and had underground passageways between them.  I assume it was not a long walk over the barrens between the theme parks.  Presumably, the main characters escaped the sheriff by running outside the West World theme area, although there was no clear boundary around West World.  It just kind of transitioned into no man's land.

I am really looking forward to the HBO version.  The prospect of such a theme park captured my imagination when I first saw that movie.  And Michael Crichten became locked in my mind as some kind of creative genius who expanded the idea of a theme park gone wild into the Jurassic Park phenomenon.  Of the two movies, West World captured my imagination much more.  I don't want to dis Jurassic Park.  It was a wonderful movie.  But Jurassic Park was more like a zoo where you drive around gawking at dinosaurs, and eventually get caught in a park disaster. 

In West World you start out as participants in the park theme, rather than passive observers.  You are much more an integral part of the park itself, relating to other visitors, as well as the robots in one adult version of an imaginary children's game.  Even at my age, I have to ask myself, how much would I be willing to pay to experience such an opportunity to participate in such a grand version of make believe?  I might wipe out my entire savings for such fun.  Although, if things got out of hand, I'd want a refund.
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Post by: Cavebear on December 02, 2016, 06:54:29 AM
I would rather put my money in a garden I can enjoy all year.  I can only envision myself in movies as the "security guard who dies first"...  Any movie, anywhere.
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Post by: GSOgymrat on December 02, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
We are in the middle of watching The Crown on Netflix. Other than touring British landmarks, I have never been very interested in the Monarchy but this series is well written and has excellent acting.
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Post by: Hydra009 on December 03, 2016, 07:33:45 PM
Vikings is back!

(http://projectfandom.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Berserker-laugh-Vikings-3x8.gif)

Things are kinda slow since the timeskip forward, but it looks like things will pick up soon.
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Post by: PickelledEggs on December 14, 2016, 06:39:19 PM
Been watching HBO's OZ. Incredible series, almost done with season 2
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Post by: SGOS on December 15, 2016, 05:13:27 AM
While I only watch DVDs a year after a series airs, I'll just add that have watched Better Call Saul with intense interest.  It's only 10 episodes per year, and I just received year 2 last week from Amazon.  Then I limited myself to two episodes per day, and 5 days later I'm finished.  Now I have to wait another year for the next set of DVDs.  But of course I'll rewatch the first 20 episodes a couple of times before then.  The last episode was a cliff hanger, but I'm confident Slippin' Jimmy Saul will slide through it with barely a scratch.  His older brother is the moral epicenter of virtue, but the more I get to know him, he seems like he's the real dick in the family, not Shady Slippin' Jimmy.
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Post by: Hydra009 on January 02, 2017, 02:26:41 AM
I was just channel-surfing youtube and I came across a video talking about undeveloped Star Trek series - TV shows that might have been.

Here's one idea (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation) set far in the future (post-TNG), humanity has grown complacent and the Federation is in decline.  Many of its members have either left or only give it nominal support.  There's corruption, discontent, and sectionalism.  Any of that sound familiar?

Things get worse.  A new enemy appears, strikes a couple colonies and leaves without a trace.  A Federation plagued by internal problems and an enigmatic external threat - the show looked like it could have delivered some of that excellent social commentary that Trek is known for.  Sadly, it never came to pass.

Now we're getting Star Trek Discovery, a TOS prequel, in May.  You know, for a show centered around the future, it sure seems stuck in the past.  Don't get me wrong, I want it to do well.  I need it to do well.  If it bombs, we might not get another one.  *raises a mug of warnog*  Here's to hoping that it's an unusually good prequel.
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Post by: PopeyesPappy on January 06, 2017, 12:22:00 AM
History Channel's Vikings

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Post by: Hydra009 on January 06, 2017, 03:07:20 AM
Vikings.

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Post by: Hydra009 on January 13, 2017, 01:21:37 AM
I've been marathoning semi-historical classical/medieval shows lately, and I was wondering why there's such an abundance of Roman/British shows and a paltry amount about other people.

Wouldn't it be great to have a show about the Varangians? (vikings who settled in eastern Europe and modern-day Russia)  They wrecked the Khazars and rubbed elbows with the Byzantine emperor, Basil the Bulgar Slayer.  Now there's a bloody tale that could rival History Channel's the Vikings, which focuses on the vikings who raided England/France.

There are a ton of relatively obscure (at least to American audiences) parts of history that could make for amazing TV shows.  It'd certainly be welcome relief from the millionth Operation Overlord documentary, the latest in a long line of shows centered in England, and whatever reality TV garbage is currently festering on the withered husk of a channel ostensibly about history.
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Post by: _Xenu_ on January 13, 2017, 06:40:26 AM
I was just channel-surfing youtube and I came across a video talking about undeveloped Star Trek series - TV shows that might have been.

Here's one idea (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation) set far in the future (post-TNG), humanity has grown complacent and the Federation is in decline.  Many of its members have either left or only give it nominal support.  There's corruption, discontent, and sectionalism.  Any of that sound familiar?

Things get worse.  A new enemy appears, strikes a couple colonies and leaves without a trace.  A Federation plagued by internal problems and an enigmatic external threat - the show looked like it could have delivered some of that excellent social commentary that Trek is known for.  Sadly, it never came to pass.

Now we're getting Star Trek Discovery, a TOS prequel, in May.  You know, for a show centered around the future, it sure seems stuck in the past.  Don't get me wrong, I want it to do well.  I need it to do well.  If it bombs, we might not get another one.  *raises a mug of warnog*  Here's to hoping that it's an unusually good prequel.
I wish they would make another series centered around a station, like DS9, because that leads to more serialization instead of problem of the week type writing. If you watch DS9 all the way through, they never onced showed central engineering because most of the problems they dealt with were political. Also, I want to see what happens after the 24th century as well, but Star Trek seems to keep revisiting that and earlier times.
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Post by: Hydra009 on January 22, 2017, 10:53:42 PM
My reaction to the latest episode of Vikings:

(https://tvrecappersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/babyscared.gif)

They took things just a tad too far, imho.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 14, 2017, 06:33:13 AM
Only just started watching Stranger Things.
I like it, 4 and a half episodes in.
I think I went in with too high expectations though, as the first episode didn't really reel me in.
But from ep 2 on; bam. The kids have a great dynamic, and man; they can act. It's rare to see that  in kids that young.
Very well handled.
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Post by: trdsf on February 14, 2017, 11:49:21 AM
I wish they would make another series centered around a station, like DS9, because that leads to more serialization instead of problem of the week type writing. If you watch DS9 all the way through, they never onced showed central engineering because most of the problems they dealt with were political. Also, I want to see what happens after the 24th century as well, but Star Trek seems to keep revisiting that and earlier times.
I recommend Babylon 5 for an ongoing story about a space station where the universe is not reset at the end of each episode.  What happens, happens.
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Post by: Shiranu on February 14, 2017, 12:10:35 PM
Speaking of "Vikings" and what we would like to see, I would love to see a series with Western budgets doing something in India or China, either late Mughal in India (so the English could be involved) or in China as well. Their courts were just as insane, if not moreso, than ours in Europe.
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Post by: Notthesun on February 14, 2017, 09:47:11 PM
Anyone here seen The Leftovers? I started it last year. Watched both seasons in a week. Absolutely stunning. I don't think a show has ever impacted my life more than that show. Holy fuck it moved me. My second favorite show of all time.
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 14, 2017, 10:00:36 PM
Only just started watching Stranger Things.
I like it, 4 and a half episodes in.
I think I went in with too high expectations though, as the first episode didn't really reel me in.
But from ep 2 on; bam. The kids have a great dynamic, and man; they can act. It's rare to see that  in kids that young.
Very well handled.
Great series.  I can't wait for season 2.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 15, 2017, 04:48:53 PM
Great series.  I can't wait for season 2.

I was trying to find something witty to say.
But I just finished the first season.
And Halloween never seemed so far away.
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Post by: marom1963 on February 20, 2017, 04:36:02 AM
Recently I discovered the series Shameless: I feel like I know those people! I've been reveling in their seedy exploits  :pirate:
family emergency, everybody pulling together in a plot -
younger brother: But I don't have a bicycle!
elder brother: The clippers are in the junk drawer ...
So, naturally, the younger brother uses the clippers to steal a bicycle! There are no excuses for letting the family down!
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on February 27, 2017, 08:17:10 AM
I just finished watching Westworld over the weekend.

Blew my mind, with a six-shooter...literally.

Some fantastic storytelling, and a couple of truly unexpected twists, made for one hell of a ride.

I heard they aren't doing another season, right away. I'm not sure where they would go with it, from here.
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Post by: trdsf on February 27, 2017, 10:27:13 AM
The long national nightmare is over -- on April 14, Mystery Science Theater 3000 returns with an all new season!

Not known yet if Netflix is going to tease them out a week at a time or do a series dump.  Most betting is on 'series dump'.  Don't care.  New MST3K.  Couldn't be happier.  Well, I could be, but that wouldn't involve TV.
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 27, 2017, 12:33:42 PM
I just finished watching Westworld over the weekend.
Amazing, wasn't it?  I particularly liked the ending speech/scene.

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Blew my mind, with a six-shooter...literally.
Literally? (https://youtu.be/8Gv0H-vPoDc?t=2m44s)

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I heard they aren't doing another season, right away. I'm not sure where they would go with it, from here.
They're working on it, but there won't be a new episode until 2018.
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 27, 2017, 12:39:34 PM
Last night's Walking Dead was pretty good.

Eugene is my spirit animal.

https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/836225233283592192

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUMaYGnnVE
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on February 27, 2017, 02:49:24 PM
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They're working on it, but there won't be a new episode until 2018.
This morning, my sister and I were talking about the possibility of, Ford coming back as a robot, next season. Or the possibility, that it was a robot Ford who was shot. But I think either one is a cop-out. I hope they find some more great actors for the next run.[/spoiler]
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 27, 2017, 05:08:23 PM
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Post by: Sorginak on February 28, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
I watch too many shows.   The current list that is airing:

The Simpsons
The Walking Dead
Big Little Lies
Bellevue
The Real O'Neals
Teachers
Workin' Moms
The 100
Criminal Minds
The Magicians
Legion
Riverdale
Powerless
Emerald City

I know, right? How do I find time to do anything other than to watch television?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on February 28, 2017, 06:05:33 PM
Just saw the first episode of Westworld. Quite philosophical.
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Post by: Cavebear on March 02, 2017, 09:47:51 AM
I recommend Babylon 5 for an ongoing story about a space station where the universe is not reset at the end of each episode.  What happens, happens.

Forgive me for ressurecting on old post, but I agree completely.  Babylon 5 grew on me as I realized there were "arcs" of the plots.  Too few series of any sort have extended plot lines and I miss those. 

I only came to think of this as a cable channel stated Voyager again and I caught it just when 7 was brought onboard and they showed the episodes in order.  So watching her adjust reminded me of the arcs in Babylon 5. 

So much of all TV is episodic, resetting the characters to a sort of 0 point each time (no previous show having any effect on the next).  Its why I stopped watching scheduled TV.
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 03, 2017, 09:16:48 PM
Yeah, serial > episodic

Some shows straddle that line.  You don't have to be all caught up on Rick and Morty to understand most of the episodes, but it helps.
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Post by: Sorginak on March 07, 2017, 05:14:55 PM
The latest episode of The Walking Dead scared me near the end.

I fell in love with the first season of Emerald City.  I will watch the second season when it airs.

Riverdale is pretty awesome.  Some haters dislike the fact that it deviates from the comics, but that is the entire point.  It is a dark adaptation of the Archie comics.

I was thinking of removing Legion from my viewing list.  I am losing interest in it.

The Magicians just keeps getting better and better.

I will always stick with Criminal Minds because I just love that show and its characters.

The new season of The 100 seems promising so far.

Those educators on The Teachers are just funny.

The Real O'Neals remains funny as well.

Bellevue is a good show, even though some people were uncertain about the first episode.  I just love Anna Paquin and I will continue to watch it due to her in it.

Big Little Lies has two amazing actresses in it: Nicole Kidman and Reese Witherspoon.

And The Simpsons is just one of those animations that I cannot shake.


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Post by: Hydra009 on March 07, 2017, 05:39:03 PM
The latest episode of The Walking Dead scared me near the end.
Meh, I know a dumpster fakeout when I see one.  Imo, the scariest part of that episode was the accidental gunfire.

The earlier episode with Eugene and Dwight was scarier, especially in the beginning.  And Negan remains a very intimidating character.

The weird thing is a couple critics I watched loved the Rick & Michonne episode and weren't happy with the Eugene & Dwight episode, while I was the complete opposite.  I get the impression that people just rate episodes with their favorite characters well and episodes without their favorite characters poorly.
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Post by: Sorginak on March 07, 2017, 05:43:04 PM
I was not too excited about the relationship between Rick and Michone when it first started, because it seemed they did not fit together, but lately they have been growing on me.

Yeah, that gunfire last episode made me think the golfing truckers had tracked them down, but it was Michone's willingness to abandon all hope that scared me when she thought Rick was dead. 
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 07, 2017, 05:59:09 PM
I forgot all about the golfers.  Those poor, poor golfers.  They had it coming, didn't they?  Or did Rick and Michonne get a ton of dark side points?
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Post by: Sorginak on March 07, 2017, 06:01:08 PM
Did they actually harm the golfers or did they just steal from the back of the truck?
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Post by: Sorginak on March 07, 2017, 06:06:17 PM
I am more interested in what is going to happen with that all female community with all their guns.
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Post by: etienne on March 11, 2017, 09:36:58 AM
In this order:

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Post by: Hydra009 on March 11, 2017, 10:54:33 AM
Did they actually harm the golfers or did they just steal from the back of the truck?
Sorry for the late reply

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Post by: Sorginak on March 13, 2017, 04:18:14 PM
Regarding TWD.

Morgan has serious mental issues, and he simply keeps attempting to hide those issues with pacifism until he ends up exploding.

And now it's time for Carol to come back to who she's supposed to be. 
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 13, 2017, 06:05:47 PM
Morgan has serious mental issues, and he simply keeps attempting to hide those issues with pacifism until he ends up exploding.
Yeah, I love it.  The best part was when he flipped out and held a knife to his wrist.  It's only a matter of time until he paints a Khorne symbol on his forehead with blood.

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And now it's time for Carol to come back to who she's supposed to be.
She's awesome as hell.  Laify middle-aged housewife turned badass commando and one-woman army, goes through a Achilles in his tent (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Laconic/AchillesInHisTent) phase, then returns to the fold.  I can't wait till she gets back into the fight.
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Post by: Notthesun on March 15, 2017, 02:47:48 AM
So no one watches The Leftovers?
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 18, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
Loved the first episode of the new season of Samurai Jack.

He's back.
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Post by: Sorginak on March 20, 2017, 12:57:09 PM
The Walking Dead:

That was a refreshing revelation from Jesus.

Otherwise, it was a rather slow paced episode where not much happened up until the end. 
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 11:46:08 PM
The Walking Dead:

That was a refreshing revelation from Jesus.

Otherwise, it was a rather slow paced episode where not much happened up until the end.
Yeah.  It was like driving by a strip club, visiting the DMV for a couple hours, then walking up to the strip club door and getting told by the bouncer that they're closed for the night.  Teasing, tedium, blue balls.  Not my kind of episode.

The crazy thing is that the reviewers I watch loved it.  Apparently, some buildup and a couple heartfelt moments was all it took to win them over.  Maybe it's me, but I really wanted some shit to go down.  Not necessarily a character death, but I definitely wanted to see a big shootout.  Something, anything, to get this slow ass March To War into high gear.

I swear to Paul Monroe's dad, this season is padded to hell.  14 episodes corresponding to ~12 comics issues.  And the comics are only about 25 pages compared to the show's 47 minute runtime.  I guess the last episode had to set some stuff up for later, but damn, it really dragged.

It really bugs me how hot and cold this show is.  Great episode.  Boring episode.  Amazing episode.  Disappointing episode.  It throws my expectations all out of whack.
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Post by: Sorginak on March 22, 2017, 07:10:19 PM
I removed a few shows from my viewing list because I became bored with them, and then I added a few to my viewing list.

My most recent passion is American Crime.  That show is amazing.
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Post by: Sorginak on March 24, 2017, 07:02:27 PM
I just started watching Mr. Robot.  I tend to ignore good shows for a while, but I was hooked only minutes into the first episode even though the show has been running for two seasons with a third season on its way.  Someone made a comment regarding the show, and I shall repeat it here because I find it represents the show quite adequately.  Mr. Robot is "Dexter as a hacker."
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Post by: trdsf on March 25, 2017, 12:39:23 AM
T-minus three weeks to new episodes of MST3K.

I so completely can't fucking wait.

Oh, and we have trailer sign!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ct0Z2bQndM
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Post by: Sorginak on March 27, 2017, 06:38:56 PM
The only thing I have to state about The Walking Dead is that Sasha is failing epically.

But in less than a month Doctor Who returns.  About damn freaking time!
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 28, 2017, 03:09:02 AM
A lot of people liked it and said it was more like a "real" episode of Walking Dead.  I think a big part of that most of the cast got significant screentime for the first time in a long time.

A big problem this season has been a lot of bottle episodes - focusing on a few characters at one location at the expense of the others.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I can see how people who are avid fans of certain characters would get kind of frustrated when their character doesn't make an appearance, especially major characters like Rick and Daryl.

Imo, Game of Thrones does a pretty decent job at handling that problem - they rapidly alternate between 3 or 4 locations per episode.  The downside is they have to remind the audience what the character was up to previously and typically have a small time for something major to go down.  It's always go time - there's not a lot of time to take things in or have a lengthy arc in a single episode.

I'm kinda torn on bottle episodes.  I loved the one where Carol and Maggie were kidnapped and the one where Morgan got his aikido on.  But I also like the big group events, like the Terminus buffet and the Alexandria zombie parade.

I hope that the aftermath of the upcoming war keeps most of the surviving characters together.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 01, 2017, 12:51:56 PM
Holy crap guys, there's going to be a bunch of great TV on the air soon!

Walking Dead season 7 finale this weekend
Attack on Titan season 2 premiere this weekend
Archer season 8 premiere next week
Star Trek Discovery series premiere in about a month or two.  Not sure exactly when.

I'm so pumped!  It sucks that Rick and Morty has been delayed again and we won't be seeing season 3 until Jan 2018, but hey, quality takes time.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 02, 2017, 10:35:57 PM
HELL NO!!!!!!

The Walking Dead will not be finishing its season this spring.

Rather, after April 2nd, season 8 will not resume until this fall in October.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520211/episodes?year=2017&ref_=tt_eps_yr_2017

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFVCK!!!!!!

Do they really expect people to wait that long?

I can understand waiting that long after a season has ended.  Heck, even the Christmas holiday break is never this long.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 02, 2017, 11:33:10 PM
My bad in regard to the imdb link.  It seems that imdb doesn't know how to properly do things.  xD

It was the finale of The Walking Dead tonight.  The new season begins in October.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 03, 2017, 01:34:24 AM
TWD season finale

First 30 minutes:

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Last 30 minutes:

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Post by: Sorginak on April 03, 2017, 11:55:26 AM
That was one intense TWD season finale. 
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 05, 2017, 12:46:37 PM
Invader Zim is coming back on the air with a new TV movie!

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For those of you who don't know, Invader Zim was a short-lived cartoon show that got screwed over by the network, but became a cult hit.

It's about an alien invader determined to conquer humanity but too inept to actually pull it off, his unreliable and over-emotional robot companion, and the only human in the world committed to stopping zim - a young paranormal investigator whose social pariah status and inability to recover genuine evidence ensures that no one else believes him.

The show is set 20-minutes into the future and it was a brilliant combination of oddball humor and wacky hijinks with cool sci-fi technology (my personal favorite: a battlemech aptly named "Megadoomer") but it also had strong social commentary: a cynical look at most social institutions and a deeply misanthropic outlook.

In short, it was great.  And I'm excited that it's coming back.

Who knows, we might get the TV series back if this TV movie is a big hit.
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Post by: trdsf on April 05, 2017, 03:52:37 PM
Invader Zim is coming back on the air with a new TV movie!
Second best TV news I've heard!

The best, of course, is the return of MST3K next week.  :D
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Post by: Sorginak on April 07, 2017, 01:21:42 AM
It is sometimes hard to find a good syfy show.

I started so many only to stop watching them because I became bored.

At the end of season one of The Expanse, I told myself that I was not going to watch season two if (because so many shows are cancelled after the first season) or when it aired again.

Today, I was bored and decided to check out season two of The Expanse.

I was pleasantly surprised because it was much better than the first season.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 07, 2017, 06:10:29 PM
TWD:

https://www.facebook.com/TheWalkingDeadMemeBase/videos/1876348949271317/
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Post by: trdsf on April 09, 2017, 11:54:46 PM
Just watched the new MST3K.  Since it's still under embargo, all I will say is:

YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 10, 2017, 12:34:23 AM
Just watched the new MST3K.  Since it's still under embargo, all I will say is:

YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 14th must've come early this year.  Gratz on the early access.

My question:  do they still do the door sequence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_A7XFSfG3E)?
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Post by: trdsf on April 10, 2017, 08:47:12 AM
April 14th must've come early this year.  Gratz on the early access.

My question:  do they still do the door sequence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_A7XFSfG3E)?
Kickstarter early access.  And yes.  A much updated door sequence, too.

A couple expected cameos, and two surprise ones.  Jonah, Baron and Hampton have settled into the roles of two 'bots and a meat-puppet just fine.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 10, 2017, 07:55:21 PM
I am a huge nerd so I am very happy about this new show called Cosplay Melee. 
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Post by: Sorginak on April 15, 2017, 04:12:58 PM
Doctor Who is back!

I am watching the pilot of season ten right now.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 15, 2017, 05:31:08 PM
The new companion is a lesbian.

Though I think it might be refreshing to have a male companion instead while the Doctor regenerated into a woman.  Now that would be an interesting twist.

It seems that this new companion's mother was a companion of the Doctor.

Reflection seems to be the focus of this season.

Favorite quote of this episode:
"Hardly anything is evil.  But most things are hungry.  Hunger very much looks live evil from the wrong end of the cutlery.  Or do you think your bacon sandwich loves you back?"

It is an amazing beginning to a new season, overall.



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Post by: trdsf on April 17, 2017, 11:58:24 AM
With regard to the new MST3K on Netflix:

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*ahem*  That is all.  Please proceed with your day.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 17, 2017, 12:55:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7GAhnVwhA

If anyone had told me 20 years ago that Star Wars would be awesome again, I would've never believed it.
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Post by: Sal1981 on April 18, 2017, 04:06:09 AM
Finally watched Westworld, all 10 episodes. Did not disappoint.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 19, 2017, 12:15:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7GAhnVwhA

If anyone had told me 20 years ago that Star Wars would be awesome again, I would've never believed it.

I'll be honest, I went in kind of wanting to dislike the show.

I couldn't.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 19, 2017, 12:33:01 PM
I'll be honest, I went in kind of wanting to dislike the show.

I couldn't.
I didn't like the first couple episodes.  It seemed too kiddie and disney-ish.  It also had some pretty bad plot holes and characterization issues (Sabine's scant dialogue was particularly noticeable).  But the show steadily improved.  Now, I'd say it's filled the hole left by Clone Wars' abrupt cancellation.
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Post by: trdsf on April 19, 2017, 12:58:31 PM
I really can't think of anything that could make me interested in Star Wars again.  The original trilogy is still two and a half fun movies, but ugh.
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Post by: Shiranu on April 19, 2017, 09:02:11 PM
Rebels is amazing.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 20, 2017, 04:53:04 AM
I didn't like the first couple episodes.  It seemed too kiddie and disney-ish.  It also had some pretty bad plot holes and characterization issues (Sabine's scant dialogue was particularly noticeable).  But the show steadily improved.  Now, I'd say it's filled the hole left by Clone Wars' abrupt cancellation.

I know what you mean. Though even at the start, it had me hooked.
First episode though, I agree, one of the least well.
From the over-Obvious crush Ezra has on Sabine (luckily downplayed, yet not completely discarded later on as the series progresses), to the unlikely resolve to the initial conflict between the ghost crew for plot's sake, to the obviousness of setting and pitching the story. But this was a pilot and I often feel like pilot's require a more thorough look to give it a chance. If you look at the Community pilot, for example, if the entire show had been that quality, it wouldn't have stood out. But it had the potential for the rest of the show inside it. Same for this pilot: budding with potential, though it was still finding it's own way.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 20, 2017, 09:33:30 AM
As it progressed, the writing got a lot better and new villains were brought in.  Maul, Vader, and now Thrawn.  Star Wars lives and dies depending on the strength of its villains.  And the villains of Rebels have gotten much, much better.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 20, 2017, 11:19:32 AM
As it progressed, the writing got a lot better and new villains were brought in.  Maul, Vader, and now Thrawn.  Star Wars lives and dies depending on the strength of its villains.  And the villains of Rebels have gotten much, much better.

Yes.
So did twin suns piss you off too?
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 20, 2017, 11:49:52 AM
So did twin suns piss you off too?
No.  Actually, I kinda liked it.  I groaned when I saw there'd be yet another Maul episode.  His perpetually lingering presence had grown tiresome.  I laughed a little at the fight scene.  It was an anticlimactic fight, but it seemed appropriate that a waning power would be easily dispatched by a waxing power.  It wouldn't have made much sense to make it a nail-biter.

It's practically expected that every fight scene is going to be a close match to make it as thrilling as possible for the audience.  But that expectation met too often can also make it boringly predictable.  Every once and a while, it's important to subvert that expectation and have a curb stomp battle to either show off just how dangerous a new threat is or to show how much a villain has decayed.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 20, 2017, 12:12:13 PM
No.  Actually, I kinda liked it.  I groaned when I saw there'd be yet another Maul episode.  His perpetually lingering presence had grown tiresome.  I laughed a little at the fight scene.  It was an anticlimactic fight, but it seemed appropriate that a waning power would be easily dispatched by a waxing power.  It wouldn't have made much sense to make it a nail-biter.

It's practically expected that every fight scene is going to be a close match to make it as thrilling as possible for the audience.  But that expectation met too often can also make it boringly predictable.  Every once and a while, it's important to subvert that expectation and have a curb stomp battle to either show off just how dangerous a new threat is or to show how much a villain has decayed.

We finally find something to disagree on, hydra. :p

I didn't groan, having a feeling this would be maul's finale episode in any case. Unless they did Like a flahback. I guess I was just really banking on that expectation, that pay-off. Don't get me wrong, for example Indiana Jones unceromoniously shooting THE bragging oaf that brought a knife to a gunfight is hilarious. But there had been so much build-up... I feel blue-balled.

Diverting expactancies is fine. But they could have done it another way. Maybe have ben and maul duke it out, only to have ezra be THE one to finish maul off in an effort to save ben, showing off how his physique has dwindled while his mental abilities remained prime. Would've made for better emotional conclusion for both maul and ezra and could have gone to explain Why kenobi hardly moved in his final duel with darth vader.

But hey, that's just me.
Thrawn meeting an anticlimactic fate, as in legends (so I am told), I could see well enough. And it could work.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 20, 2017, 12:36:27 PM
We finally find something to disagree on, hydra. :p
It was bound to happen sooner or later.  But otherwise, generally agreed?  That's a very rare thing.  I've been known to court controversy by saying that the sky is blue and grass is green.

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I didn't groan, having a feeling this would be maul's finale episode in any case. Unless they did Like a flahback. I guess I was just really banking on that expectation, that pay-off. Don't get me wrong, for example Indiana Jones unceromoniously shooting THE bragging oaf that brought a knife to a gunfight is hilarious. But there had been so much build-up... I feel blue-balled.
Yeah, I can understand that.  The Indiana Jones scene works in part because the victim is just a mook.  Main characters deserve a more satisfying send-off.  I can sympathize with that idea.

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Diverting expactancies is fine. But they could have done it another way. Maybe have ben and maul duke it out, only to have ezra be THE one to finish maul off in an effort to save ben, showing off how his physique has dwindled while his mental abilities remained prime. Would've made for better emotional conclusion for both maul and ezra and could have gone to explain Why kenobi hardly moved in his final duel with darth vader.
Yeah, I was kinda miffed that Ezra and Kanan didn't play more of a role.

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Thrawn meeting an anticlimactic fate, as in legends (so I am told), I could see well enough. And it could work.
Spoilers!
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Post by: trdsf on April 20, 2017, 01:09:36 PM
The new MST3K just gets better and better.  Watched Avalanche last night, and everyone's settling so well in to their roles.  Great cameo by
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.  Today it will be The Beast of Hollow Mountain.

Life... is good.  :)
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Post by: Sorginak on April 20, 2017, 08:46:55 PM
I am a huge X-Files geek, having seen every episode of every season and every movie.

Season ten,
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the six-episode revival of the FBI conspiracy drama debuted January 24 2016.

The 11th season of The X-Files, this new run will air on Fox’s schedule either later this year or early next.

http://deadline.com/2017/04/x-files-returns-event-series-fox-1202073290/

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Post by: Sorginak on April 21, 2017, 07:37:23 PM
I have decided to watch Red Dwarf.

Thankfully, there are not twenty episodes per season so it will be relatively easy to catch up on it.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 22, 2017, 07:29:24 PM
Season Ten, episode two of Doctor Who

This episode is so my speed in life.

It basically deals with how corporate wants us to smile all the time as though nothing bad is ever happening.

What if I do not want to smile?  False smiles do not equate to happiness, after all.

Personally, I would rather not smile than to smile unnecessarily. 

Quote from the show: The Doctor, "You can't offend a machine."

The newest, though not in reference to post industrial evolution, scariest thing:

(http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Series-10-Trailer-2017-41emoji.jpg)

Oh, there's his screwdriver.

Another quote: The Doctor, "All traps are beautiful, that's how they work."

The conclusion is that corporate does not know how to properly deal with the real concept of grief.  Thus, they recommend burying it beneath false smiles, false happiness.

Another instance shown where guns do not help the situation, but instead make it worse.

Another quote:  The Doctor, "You know why I always win at chess?  I have a secret move.  I kick over the board."

Overall, brilliant freaking episode. 
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Post by: SGOS on April 23, 2017, 07:50:09 AM
Rotten Tomatoes lists Dr Who as the longest running TV series (36 seasons).  I've never watched an episode, and outside of this thread, never knew anyone that has.  Not that I'm never a latecomer, however.  I missed Dexter, Breaking Bad, and all 3 of the Stargate series during their initial airings, and now they are in my Top 5 list.  It never occurred to me to watch Dr Who.  I don't know why.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 23, 2017, 09:16:38 AM
Rotten Tomatoes lists Dr Who as the longest running TV series (36 seasons).

The original Doctor Who is twenty-six seasons long.  I only watched two seasons of the original before I somewhat lost interest.  Also, when there are forty episodes per season it is harder to find the time to catch up on it.  Not to mention the fact that some of the episodes were lost and one has to watch still pictures that accompany the audio that actually did somehow survive. 

The new Doctor Who is currently on its tenth season and I have seen every episode. 
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Post by: Sorginak on April 24, 2017, 09:26:19 PM
The Leftovers is one of those shows into which an individual is reeled.

I stopped watching after season one, and I found out that the third season will be the final season.  Therefore, I started watching season two, and I am just as much blown away as I was during the first season.

It is one of those shows that delves deeply into the realm of religion to the point of controlling the viewer's emotions.  It is not a religious show, but the connotations are deeply embedded into amazing characters and a superb story-line in reference to how people deal with their lives after a major portion of the world's population suddenly disappears one day.
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Post by: Munch on April 27, 2017, 04:14:35 PM
Never really got into it when it was first on, but seen how the newest series of samurai jack is out now, I've been binge watching older episodes to catch up.

Gonna confess, when it was first out, I thought the jack design was just professor utonium in samurai clothing.

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Post by: trdsf on April 28, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
The original Doctor Who is twenty-six seasons long.  I only watched two seasons of the original before I somewhat lost interest.  Also, when there are forty episodes per season it is harder to find the time to catch up on it.  Not to mention the fact that some of the episodes were lost and one has to watch still pictures that accompany the audio that actually did somehow survive.
Well, it depends on the series, how many episodes are in that year.  The early years, yeah, it was a brutal filming schedule and probably contributed to William Hartnell's early departure -- he was already in frail health, despite the fact that he was only 55 when he started the role (I was shocked when I found out he wasn't in his 60s or 70s already).

The earliest seasons had 40-45 half hour episodes; it was dialed back to 25-26 when Jon Pertwee took over in 1970, and then to the modern 13 or so when Colin Baker (whose tenure is much under-rated IMO) took the helm.  So even though Hartnell held the role for just over 3 full seasons, there were 134 individual episodes during that time; Tom Baker's seven years had "just" 172.

Somewhere I have a list of the episodes I think are best suited for getting into the more casual pace of the early episodes.  Some of them have aged like fine wine... a couple have aged more like mayonnaise.  No idea where it is, I'll have to re-create it.  I still consider the classic run superior on average -- since they only had an effects budget of sixpence and Auntie Beeb expected change, they had to get by on great writing and performances and couldn't plaster things over with splashy CGI.
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Post by: Sorginak on April 29, 2017, 10:55:11 PM
Season ten, episode three of Doctor Who called "Thin Ice"

They are in 1814 London.  Bill asks if it will be safe for her since she is black and slavery is still a thing.

As they change their clothes and traverse the city, she takes notice that there are more black people who are not slaves than she had expected.
 
Epic dialogue
Bill: Interesting.
Dr: What is?
Bill: Regency England.  Bit more blackness than they show in the movies.
Dr: So was Jesus.  History's a whitewash.

A bit of advice from the Dr. to Bill:
Always remember that passion fights, but reason wins.

LOL and then the Dr. proceeds to punch a man for insulting Bill for being a black woman.

Another good quote from the Dr:
Human progress isn't measured by industry.  It's measured by the value you place on a life.

Another good dialogue
Bill: You already know the answers.  Why are you even asking?
Dr: I don't know the answers.  Only idiots know the answers.

This show just gets better and better, and that's why I love it more than any other show on television.
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Post by: Cavebear on April 30, 2017, 07:04:20 AM
The Doctor shows the value of inconsistency.  And I'm not joking here.  Unpredictability combined with power and ability is very hard to overcome.
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Post by: mbncan2 on June 18, 2017, 12:36:53 AM
The Americans; Fargo; Animal Kingdom
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on July 07, 2017, 03:29:13 PM
Been rediscovering Jacob Bronowski and The Ascent of Man, which is more or less Cosmos with an anthropological/sociological bend, and much of the same creative team, including producer/director Adrian Malone, worked on both, so it's also stylistically very similar.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 07, 2017, 11:30:52 PM
The Doctor shows the value of inconsistency.  And I'm not joking here.  Unpredictability combined with power and ability is very hard to overcome.
My favorite Dr Who episode:

(https://amyyen.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/doctor-who-day-of-the-moon.jpg)

I forgot what it was about, though.
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Post by: Cavebear on July 11, 2017, 08:10:38 AM
My favorite Dr Who episode:

(https://amyyen.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/doctor-who-day-of-the-moon.jpg)

I forgot what it was about, though.

I don't much follow Dr Who anymore.  The actors became too "normal".  MY Dr Whos dressed outrageously and didn't really have any followers or friends.  They came, they went.  I gave up when K9 appeared.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on July 12, 2017, 07:01:41 AM
I don't much follow Dr Who anymore.  The actors became too "normal".  MY Dr Whos dressed outrageously and didn't really have any followers or friends.  They came, they went.  I gave up when K9 appeared.
Ooo, don't stop there, you'll miss the whole year when Douglas Adams was script editor.

For the record, my preferred Doctor is a wee, devious little shit -- so McCoy and Troughton, thanks.  And a side order of TBaker and CBaker for your minimum recommended daily allowance of vitamins W, T and F.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: simplyalex on July 13, 2017, 04:09:46 AM
Looking forward to watching 13 Reasons Why Season 2, time to see whether Jess will commit a suicide or not.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on July 18, 2017, 04:10:53 AM
The original Doctor Who is twenty-six seasons long.  I only watched two seasons of the original before I somewhat lost interest.  Also, when there are forty episodes per season it is harder to find the time to catch up on it.  Not to mention the fact that some of the episodes were lost and one has to watch still pictures that accompany the audio that actually did somehow survive. 

The new Doctor Who is currently on its tenth season and I have seen every episode.

The Christmas planet was OUTSTANDING!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 18, 2017, 09:33:53 PM
Orville

Good music, great ship models (even though it's been done before (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/52/c0/9b/52c09be817d56e742c0859b90d7b409d.png)), nice costumes.  The only problem is that it's entirely unfunny.

It plays everything so straight that I can't tell whether or not it's even trying to be funny.  There are jokes, but they're mostly throwaway lines, the sort of jokes you'd see in garfield or peanuts, not something that'll make a normal person laugh or even crack a smile.

It also has this weird vibe where the technology is super futuristic but everyone talks and acts as if it were the late 2000s.  I half expect someone to say "don't taze me, bro".  There's also this strange mix of futuristic and mundane technology - they've achieved FTL and are working on time control, but half their tech is no different from ours.  Weird.

And yet, despite these criticisms, it's still more entertaining than 90% of Enterprise and 50% of Voyager.  Don't ask me why.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on September 19, 2017, 03:45:24 AM
Orville

Good music, great ship models (even though it's been done before (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/52/c0/9b/52c09be817d56e742c0859b90d7b409d.png)), nice costumes.  The only problem is that it's entirely unfunny.

It plays everything so straight that I can't tell whether or not it's even trying to be funny.  There are jokes, but they're mostly throwaway lines, the sort of jokes you'd see in garfield or peanuts, not something that'll make a normal person laugh or even crack a smile.

The worst thing about Dr Who is that future tech never seems to actually advance much.  The enemies just get stranger.

It also has this weird vibe where the technology is super futuristic but everyone talks and acts as if it were the late 2000s.  I half expect someone to say "don't taze me, bro".  There's also this strange mix of futuristic and mundane technology - they've achieved FTL and are working on time control, but half their tech is no different from ours.  Weird.

And yet, despite these criticisms, it's still more entertaining than 90% of Enterprise and 50% of Voyager.  Don't ask me why.

Oops, forgot to add my own thoughts... 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on September 19, 2017, 12:20:12 PM
Been rediscovering a couple 'classics' from the 60s on Hulu -- Land of the Giants and Dark Shadows.  Forgot how much fun they were despite their shortcomings.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 19, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
Oops, forgot to add my own thoughts...
:eh:
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on September 19, 2017, 06:07:36 PM
:eh:

LOL, hey sometimes you just read posts and hit the button...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 19, 2017, 06:11:36 PM
There's modify button, too.  :whip:
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on September 19, 2017, 06:15:30 PM
There's modify button, too.  :whip:

Well, yeah but if you change a post after a reply it seems kind of unfair.  Confooses peoples.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sorginak on September 24, 2017, 09:25:47 AM
Well, yeah but if you change a post after a reply it seems kind of unfair.  Confooses peoples.

Not if you modify it before anyone can read it or reply to it.  As slow as this forum is, that doesn't seem to be a problem.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sorginak on September 24, 2017, 09:27:03 AM
Looking forward to watching 13 Reasons Why Season 2, time to see whether Jess will commit a suicide or not.

I decided against watching it because I was informed by someone I trust that it was a really stupid show. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sorginak on September 24, 2017, 09:28:01 AM
Orville

Good music, great ship models (even though it's been done before (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/52/c0/9b/52c09be817d56e742c0859b90d7b409d.png)), nice costumes.  The only problem is that it's entirely unfunny.

It plays everything so straight that I can't tell whether or not it's even trying to be funny.  There are jokes, but they're mostly throwaway lines, the sort of jokes you'd see in garfield or peanuts, not something that'll make a normal person laugh or even crack a smile.

It also has this weird vibe where the technology is super futuristic but everyone talks and acts as if it were the late 2000s.  I half expect someone to say "don't taze me, bro".  There's also this strange mix of futuristic and mundane technology - they've achieved FTL and are working on time control, but half their tech is no different from ours.  Weird.

And yet, despite these criticisms, it's still more entertaining than 90% of Enterprise and 50% of Voyager.  Don't ask me why.

I gave the show a whirl, and I am enjoying it.  I was not a fan of the end of episode three, but that's okay. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 25, 2017, 10:30:31 PM
I just saw the premier of Star Trek: Discovery.

It wasn't as horrific as I had heard it to be.  But it's not great, either.  It's...strange.

It feels like someone watched a highlight reel of several star trek series during a multi-day coke binge then decided to reconstruct it years later.

The plot doesn't make much internal or logical sense.  The characters are pretty dull.  But the effects and camera work is great.  Someone obviously put a lot of effort into this, but it wasn't the writers or half the bridge crew.

The show is a hot mess.  A very flashy, adrenaline-filled hot mess.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on September 25, 2017, 10:47:34 PM
Star Trek does seem to be getting a bit stale.  What were fabulous tales for the 1960s with thoughtful nods to the human condition, are no longer in, and with Marvel exploding onto the scene, Star Trek is just one of the lesser franchises, and Gene Rodenberry and his special feel for story telling are not behind it.  So it's just more special effects.  I will see it of course.  Not much to deliberate there. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on September 25, 2017, 10:55:05 PM
Star Trek: The Next Generation is and will always be the best series. (The movies sucked, though.)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 25, 2017, 11:12:28 PM
Star Trek does seem to be getting a bit stale.  What were fabulous tales for the 1960s with thoughtful nods to the human condition, are no longer in, and with Marvel exploding onto the scene, Star Trek is just one of the lesser franchises, and Gene Rodenberry and his special feel for story telling are not behind it.  So it's just more special effects.  I will see it of course.  Not much to deliberate there.
I dunno how much truth to there is to this, but I have a running theory that the success of sci-fi and superhero movies are inversely proportional - when one is waxing, the other is waning and vice versa.

They don't necessarily hurt each other's success directly - it's not like Marvel has it out for Star Trek or vice versa.  It could just be the case that both series are competing for much of the same audiences (and production resources), and one is going to take the lion's share while the other one goes hungry.

Also, superhero moves often have a bunch of scifi elements, so much so that they could probably be considered a sub-genre of sci-fi.  And there can only be so many sci-fi winners in a year.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on September 25, 2017, 11:23:39 PM
Star Trek does seem to be getting a bit stale.  What were fabulous tales for the 1960s with thoughtful nods to the human condition, are no longer in, and with Marvel exploding onto the scene, Star Trek is just one of the lesser franchises, and Gene Rodenberry and his special feel for story telling are not behind it.  So it's just more special effects.  I will see it of course.  Not much to deliberate there.

I understand that the Klingons in the next movie are going to be based off of Trump supporters...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 26, 2017, 12:09:33 AM
I understand that the Klingons in the next movie are going to be based off of Trump supporters...
The Klingons slightly annoyed me because they're packed like sardines in that bridge/auditorium and I only see like 3 guys tending to the ship.  Everyone else is just standing their in awed reverence or taking part in Mr. Drama Queen's little play.

They're supposed to be a starfaring people, but they act like cosplayers at a renaissance fair.

Wow, that was a lot harsher than I initially meant.  Gonna stand by it, though.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 02:35:07 AM
I just saw the premier of Star Trek: Discovery.

It wasn't as horrific as I had heard it to be.  But it's not great, either.  It's...strange.

It feels like someone watched a highlight reel of several star trek series during a multi-day coke binge then decided to reconstruct it years later.

The plot doesn't make much internal or logical sense.  The characters are pretty dull.  But the effects and camera work is great.  Someone obviously put a lot of effort into this, but it wasn't the writers or half the bridge crew.

The show is a hot mess.  A very flashy, adrenaline-filled hot mess.

I have never liked any new Star Trek series at first.  Given that, I saw the premiere of 'Discovery' but total accident last week and watched it.

I did not like it.  The Captain is fine.  The Science Officer is interesting (I kind of like his logic of being afraid of everything as an herbivore and prey).  The problem is that the Vulcan #1 is all wrong.

She is too militant and suggests a general Vulcan militancy (The Vulcan "Hello" to the Klingons) at a point when the Vulcans were culturally pacifist in the original Star Trek.  I think that is going to be a hard idea to get around given that "Discovery' is supposedly only 10 years before the original Star Trek.

Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 28, 2017, 11:50:23 PM
I just saw the second episode.  It's much better, imo.  Logic is still on vacation, but it's easier to understand what's going on and the battle was decently done.  There's even a glimmer of characterization and a faint hope that someday, it may even be good.

Such a shame, since this episode wasn't broadcast on basic cable, just the subscription website, where there's a much smaller audience.  Rules of acquisition #10 and #203.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on October 01, 2017, 04:19:09 AM
I just saw the second episode.  It's much better, imo.  Logic is still on vacation, but it's easier to understand what's going on and the battle was decently done.  There's even a glimmer of characterization and a faint hope that someday, it may even be good.

Such a shame, since this episode wasn't broadcast on basic cable, just the subscription website, where there's a much smaller audience.  Rules of acquisition #10 and #203.

I fully understand the temptation directors have to change the Vulcans and the Klingons, but I won't abide it. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 03, 2017, 11:45:14 PM
The latest episode was pretty much the prison fight scene from Watchmen ("I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!") and Doom 3.  Also, shrooms are the key to interstellar travel.  I wish I were joking.

Not featured: anything that remotely gives off Trek vibes.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on October 04, 2017, 03:50:06 AM
The latest episode was pretty much the prison fight scene from Watchmen ("I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!") and Doom 3.  Also, shrooms are the key to interstellar travel.  I wish I were joking.

Not featured: anything that remotely gives off Trek vibes.

Best killer criticism all month.  No Star Trek connection I can find.  You can't have the Vulcan be so wrong...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 06, 2017, 12:04:32 AM
This is really strange to say, but I think I like The Orville more than Discovery.  Yes, I'm serious.

Discovery is heavy on action and has a gritty sort of feel to it.  And not a good kind of gritty, either.  The kind of gritty that's kinda offputting.  Hell, half of one episode reminded me of Doom 3.  There's so much action and so little character and world development that I don't even really care about the outcome of said action.

Orville isn't the most thrilling show out there, but I think it captured a lot more of the aesthetics/themes of Trek.  Hell, we even get the occassional dilemma that Trek's known for.  Orville's comedic value is practically nonexistent but it's played so straight that it's difficult to tell if the jokes were intentional.  It makes for a passable Trek experience.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 07, 2017, 12:01:54 AM
Orville's 4th episode is friggin' great.  Not The Best of Both Worlds great or In The Pale Moonlight great, more like Blink Of An Eye good.  The plot is like an inverse Nightfall.  Curiosity, action, and humor.  Probably the best episode for someone who's on the fence to watch.

I'm sitting here in shock that the show I wanted to like - Star Trek Discovery - turned out to be kinda disappointing, but the show that I thought would be kinda crappy - The Orville - turned out to be actually pretty good.

My whole worldview is upside down over here.  What else are my first impressions completely wrong about??
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on October 07, 2017, 02:14:10 AM
Been watching Blacklist with James Spader lately.. Pretty hoakey premises, but too bad we don't have that kind of benevolent criminal knocking off the shitheads of the planet.. I actually kind of liked ol Red Reddington until he shot Mr Kapplan .. and the bitch Elizabeth Keen isn't nearly as likable as the series writers want the audience to believe.  They killed her then brought her back to life, but should have kept her dead. She reminds me too much of Sylvia's daughter who accused me of hitting her at a new years party a few years ago.. of course I didn't hit her, but probably should have.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on October 08, 2017, 03:44:33 AM
Been watching Blacklist with James Spader lately.. Pretty hoakey premises, but too bad we don't have that kind of benevolent criminal knocking off the shitheads of the planet.. I actually kind of liked ol Red Reddington until he shot Mr Kapplan .. and the bitch Elizabeth Keen isn't nearly as likable as the series writers want the audience to believe.  They killed her then brought her back to life, but should have kept her dead. She reminds me too much of Sylvia's daughter who accused me of hitting her at a new years party a few years ago.. of course I didn't hit her, but probably should have.

Discovery doesn't make Star Trek Sense.  Haven't seen the Orville.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2017, 10:51:45 PM
Discovery doesn't make Star Trek Sense.  Haven't seen the Oroville.

All the old Trekkies are supporting Oroville.  Even Patrick Stuart ;-)  They are lifting Oroville into Trekdom ... I wanted to like Discovery, but the only thing I like about it is the uniforms.  Very sharp ... they could get paper cuts getting in and out of them.  I like the tall alien on Discovery, but my daughter hates Sarak's adopted human daughter.  I won't say anything about Oroville (spoilers).
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on October 08, 2017, 11:57:57 PM
All the old Trekkies are supporting Oroville.  Even Patrick Stuart ;-)  They are lifting Oroville into Trekdom ... I wanted to like Discovery, but the only thing I like about it is the uniforms.  Very sharp ... they could get paper cuts getting in and out of them.  I like the tall alien on Discovery, but my daughter hates Sarak's adopted human daughter.  I won't say anything about Oroville (spoilers).

I saw the premier of 'Discovery.  The Vulcan is all wrong.  The captain is fine,.  I liked the tall alien with his extreme caution.  I assume that means his species were prey and the the idea that they achieved sentience is slightly fascinating.

But I won't pay a dime to watch it...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 09, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
Discovery doesn't make Star Trek Sense.  Haven't seen the Orville.
I recommend episode 4.  It's the episode that changed my opinion from meh to favorable.  Ordinarily, I wouldn't recommend skipping episodes, especially the premiere, but if you're familiar with TNG, you're already more or less up to speed.  Plus, the first couple episodes are fairly weak, imo.  The show didn't really hit its stride until 4.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on October 09, 2017, 01:45:56 PM
I recommend episode 4.  It's the episode that changed my opinion from meh to favorable.  Ordinarily, I wouldn't recommend skipping episodes, especially the premiere, but if you're familiar with TNG, you're already more or less up to speed.  Plus, the first couple episodes are fairly weak, imo.  The show didn't really hit its stride until 4.

Discovery isn't episodic.  It is designed to grow on you, eventually, like a space fungus ;-)  That is its strength and weakness.  Non-episodic shows (say ... Rome) are a very extended version of the Tolkien trilogy, except you don't have to wait a year between installments.  Very cinematic ... but weak on character development (which is easier in episodic format).  The weakness of The Orville" was in the premier, because they had to spend half of it introducing the odd-ball characters.  Comparing The Orville to Firefly is probably apt.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 09, 2017, 02:16:03 PM
Discovery isn't episodic.
I was talking about The Orville. :[

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The weakness of The Orville" was in the premier, because they had to spend half of it introducing the odd-ball characters.  Comparing The Orville to Firefly is probably apt.
In that very specific way, they may be similar.

But that's a pretty bizarre comparison since the two shows have virtually nothing in common except for space ships and speaking english, and that last one only holds true most of the time.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on October 11, 2017, 01:55:53 AM
I recommend episode 4.  It's the episode that changed my opinion from meh to favorable.  Ordinarily, I wouldn't recommend skipping episodes, especially the premiere, but if you're familiar with TNG, you're already more or less up to speed.  Plus, the first couple episodes are fairly weak, imo.  The show didn't really hit its stride until 4.

I'll consider that, but it has to get on cable or I'll never see it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 23, 2017, 09:02:49 PM
The Walking Dead is back!!!

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 04, 2017, 11:40:36 PM
The Walking Dead 8x02

I really liked this episode!  It actually feels like an all-out war.  And yeah, I gave them a pass and stopped counting ammo or else I'd drive myself crazy this episode.

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 06, 2017, 01:01:55 PM
The Walking Dead 8x03

I absolutely love The Kingdom!

They might have a goofy dramatic flair and other eccentricities, but they're good people with a strong, close-knit, capable community.  And their reliance on horses over vehicles highlights their pragmatic, unassuming nature.  Even their armor, which admittedly is poorly protective and ill-fitting, at least offers some protection and serves as a uniform to allow Kingdomers to recognize each other at a glance and helps them stand out from other survivors.

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on November 07, 2017, 03:13:19 AM
Stranger Things season 2 was pretty epic.

I love how the show boils up until the last two episodes. The boiling is intense and intriguing. And then the climax, it feels deserved and is just amazing.
And such great characters!
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on November 07, 2017, 01:57:52 PM
Stranger things speculation.
Contains spoilers up to and including season 2

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on November 07, 2017, 03:02:12 PM
Getting caught up on Doctor Who in time for the regeneration, and QI Series O is on.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 07:48:43 AM
Getting caught up on Doctor Who in time for the regeneration, and QI Series O is on.

I haven't seen the new Doctor. Read it is a female now.  I must not be looking around at the right times.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on November 12, 2017, 12:31:28 AM
I haven't seen the new Doctor. Read it is a female now.  I must not be looking around at the right times.
They haven't had her intro episode yet.  That'll be on Newton's Birthday (commonly celebrated as Xmas).
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 13, 2017, 03:17:21 PM
Walking Dead 8x04

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on November 15, 2017, 04:58:04 AM
They haven't had her intro episode yet.  That'll be on Newton's Birthday (commonly celebrated as Xmas).

Thank you.  Saved me 6 weeks of searching the screen TV guide looking for it until then. 

A female Doctor Who should be a very interesting new approach. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on November 15, 2017, 11:44:03 AM
Thank you.  Saved me 6 weeks of searching the screen TV guide looking for it until then. 

A female Doctor Who should be a very interesting new approach.
It's been floated a couple times.  Tom Baker infamously trolled his retirement announcement by offering his best wishes to his successor "whoever he or she may be".  They considered a female Doctor to try to reinvigorate the show after Colin Baker.  And of course there was a lot of buzz that Smith's successor might be either a woman or a non-white actor (I was hoping for Sue Perkins personally).  I suspected the reason they regenerated the Master into Missy was to test the waters.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on November 15, 2017, 12:13:30 PM
It's been floated a couple times.  Tom Baker infamously trolled his retirement announcement by offering his best wishes to his successor "whoever he or she may be".  They considered a female Doctor to try to reinvigorate the show after Colin Baker.  And of course there was a lot of buzz that Smith's successor might be either a woman or a non-white actor (I was hoping for Sue Perkins personally).  I suspected the reason they regenerated the Master into Missy was to test the waters.

Well I certainly will be prepared for acceptance.

With the acknowledgement that there have been male Doctors I did not like and there could be the wrong woman as The Doctor.  But time heals many dislikes.  I hated ST:TNG at first, but loved ST:Voyager from the get-go.

The right person, the right quirky characteristics, the right attitude, and I'm on board...  But one thought...  Oh please don't let the new Doctor dress all frilly.  I'd gag.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on November 15, 2017, 12:41:56 PM
Well I certainly will be prepared for acceptance.

With the acknowledgement that there have been male Doctors I did not like and there could be the wrong woman as The Doctor.  But time heals many dislikes.  I hated ST:TNG at first, but loved ST:Voyager from the get-go.

The right person, the right quirky characteristics, the right attitude, and I'm on board...  But one thought...  Oh please don't let the new Doctor dress all frilly.  I'd gag.
They've revealed her outfit.  It is not frilly (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41928500).  It's a throwback to the quirkier and idiosyncratic styles of the original series, and there are a number of sartorial shout-outs to previous Doctors.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on November 15, 2017, 12:49:21 PM
They've revealed her outfit.  It is not frilly (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41928500).  It's a throwback to the quirkier and idiosyncratic styles of the original series, and there are a number of sartorial shout-outs to previous Doctors.

OUTSTANDING!  I love the "long trench coat" idea.  I was thinking "lab coat", but that's close.  Might there be a scarf?  Or is this one all utterly practical?  That might be too much like the previous Doctor.  There has to be something odd.  Interesting...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on November 15, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
OUTSTANDING!  I love the "long trench coat" idea.  I was thinking "lab coat", but that's close.  Might there be a scarf?  Or is this one all utterly practical?  That might be too much like the previous Doctor.  There has to be something odd.  Interesting...
The stripes on the shirt and coat are roughly the colors of the Fourth Doctor's first couple scarves (I know, I've knit two of them).  The coat is the color of the Seventh Doctor's first jacket, but cut long like Baker's or Smith's.  There's been a lot of discussion about a scarf in the fandom -- on a different forum I belong to, I pointed out that she has one, if she can remember where she hung it up a few regenerations back.  `:)`

I think it's an outfit that's psychologically reminiscent of Pat Troughton's or Tom Baker's: it says "You're going to underestimate me, and then I'm going to crush you."
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on November 15, 2017, 01:20:55 PM
The stripes on the shirt and coat are roughly the colors of the Fourth Doctor's first couple scarves (I know, I've knit two of them).  The coat is the color of the Seventh Doctor's first jacket, but cut long like Baker's or Smith's.  There's been a lot of discussion about a scarf in the fandom -- on a different forum I belong to, I pointed out that she has one, if she can remember where she hung it up a few regenerations back.  `:)`

I think it's an outfit that's psychologically reminiscent of Pat Troughton's or Tom Baker's: it says "You're going to underestimate me, and then I'm going to crush you."

I don't know the Doctors like you do.  But I like your analysis.  I can at least remember them when you mention them.   
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on November 24, 2017, 08:36:50 PM
JOY!!!

Netflix announced MST3K Season 12!

WE'VE GOT MORE MOVIE SIGN!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on November 24, 2017, 10:59:03 PM
Descendants of the Sun is on Hulu... after Taboo, that will be next.

Taboo: Pretty fucking good. Set in Victorian London, psycho get's caught in a 4 way corporate war between the East India Company, the Crown, the States and his own self interest. Tom Hardy is great. Would recommend if you like gritty period pieces and corporate/political scheming.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 04, 2017, 12:16:19 AM
The Walking Dead 8x7

A very odd episode with a lot of questionable character moments.  But hey, we at least got to see some much-anticipated action and things finally change a little.

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on December 04, 2017, 01:15:44 AM
Just finished watching Midnight Sun on Hulu.. Very well done series from France and Sweden staring Leïla Bekhti.. Very good and hot Algerian born actress..also watched Below the Surface from Denmark.. Much better series than 99% of the crap produced here..
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Post by: Luther Martini on December 10, 2017, 10:46:16 AM
I am looking forward seeing to "Peaky Blinders" season 4.  Currently being broadcast on BBC, it will be on Netflix later this month.  I am re-watching season 3 in anticipation of the new episodes.
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Post by: Hydra009 on December 12, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
The Walking Dead
Season 8 mid-season finale

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TalkativeDirtyHarvestmen-size_restricted.gif)

Goddamn it, Gimple.  You done messed up.

This show has gone downhill a little lately, but it's had its moments, so I've been letting things slide.  And shocking deaths are a big part of the appeal this show, but there's a way to do that correctly.  This wasn't that.  It didn't pull the heartstrings, it just made me roll my eyes and wonder aloud if the writing staff was composed entirely of walkers.  It didn't shock me, it just disappointed me.

And I've been singing the praises of All Out War to my brother, who's kinda iffy on the show.  It's such an amazing part in the comics that any decent adaptation would make for fantastic TV.  I sound like a crazy person when I tell him how amazing this scene or that scene will be on TV because what actually makes it onscreen is such a pale imitation of the source material that, well, I sound crazy to be so rapt in anticipation.

The TV version has steadily lost a lot of what made it a great drama.  Unless it rekindles that magic, it's in for a swift decline.  And while this isn't the first crack, it is the first breach in the wall.
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Post by: Hydra009 on December 14, 2017, 09:37:02 PM
And now for something completely different, a joke that made my day.  Hell, probably my week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c7FL9QV1bs
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Post by: Cavebear on December 18, 2017, 09:38:19 AM
In the barbershop a few days ago, there was and old episode of Bonanza.  I could see it was old; Adam was there.  It was embarrassingly horrible.  Like a soap opera.  Bad plot, bad acting, actors speaking the lines out of timing.

And yet, I know I watched it with my family in the 60s and thought it was great.  How times change...
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 12, 2018, 09:17:47 PM
Been watching a lot of Scandinavian crime fiction on MHz Choice (roku channel)
There are some really great series coming from Scandinavia lately.. Much better than the typical slop on TV from Hooeywood..  You might think that the Scandinavian countries were the most crime ridden places on the planet, but they just have a lot of great crime novelists..
One series from Germany is The Weissensee Saga
A series based on a couple of families in East Germany before the fall of the wall.. One family are Stazi agents, the other disidents .. Great story..
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Post by: Baruch on January 13, 2018, 05:30:51 AM
Been watching a lot of Scandinavian crime fiction on MHz Choice (roku channel)
There are some really great series coming from Scandinavia lately.. Much better than the typical slop on TV from Hooeywood..  You might think that the Scandinavian countries were the most crime ridden places on the planet, but they just have a lot of great crime novelists..
One series from Germany is The Weissensee Saga
A series based on a couple of families in East Germany before the fall of the wall.. One family are Stazi agents, the other disidents .. Great story..

Remember when Hollywood fired all their writers because they went on strike?  Damn liberals ;-)
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Post by: SGOS on January 13, 2018, 10:59:17 AM
And now for something completely different, a joke that made my day.  Hell, probably my week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c7FL9QV1bs
LOL  I knew something was going to happen, but that took me by surprise.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 13, 2018, 11:04:54 AM
Been watching a lot of Scandinavian crime fiction on MHz Choice (roku channel)
There are some really great series coming from Scandinavia lately.. Much better than the typical slop on TV from Hooeywood..  You might think that the Scandinavian countries were the most crime ridden places on the planet, but they just have a lot of great crime novelists..
One series from Germany is The Weissensee Saga
A series based on a couple of families in East Germany before the fall of the wall.. One family are Stazi agents, the other disidents .. Great story..
I'd never thought about Scandinavian film making until they came up with something called "Let the Right One In," which was surprisingly good even with the subtitles.  And then Hollywood remade it with the American version called "Let Me In," which wasn't near as good.  I may have mixed up the titles, but the Scandinavian one was better, IMO.
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 14, 2018, 01:33:20 AM
I REALLY enjoy the MHz choice channel.. It has films and series from all over Europe. It's a great break from the typical fare from the US and GB and for about 8 bucks a month it's worth it and better yet NO FUCKING COMMERCIALS!  NONE-AUCUN-KEINER-GEEN-INGEN

Ok..I used google translate for the word none..  -1 brownie point
And let's face it folks..American remakes of just about any film originally made elsewhere almost always sucks..and don't whine about having to read subtitles.  You might even learn how to cuss in multiple languages..
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Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 11:54:59 AM
I'd never thought about Scandinavian film making until they came up with something called "Let the Right One In," which was surprisingly good even with the subtitles.  And then Hollywood remade it with the American version called "Let Me In," which wasn't near as good.  I may have mixed up the titles, but the Scandinavian one was better, IMO.

I can't help it.  3 words I never imagined I would see together.

Scandanavian
Crime
Fiction
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 27, 2018, 12:53:59 PM
I rewatched some DS9.  It just now struck me how 90% of that show was characters having conversations.  And for the most part, they were interesting conversations.  There's a great mix of characters, with a variety of different backgrounds and perspectives.  It felt cosmopolitan in a way that no Trek has before or since.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
I rewatched some DS9.  It just now struck me how 90% of that show was characters having conversations.  And for the most part, they were interesting conversations.  There's a great mix of characters, with a variety of different backgrounds and perspectives.  It felt cosmopolitan in a way that no Trek has before or since.

Well, basically, it was a space city, not just a ship.  I liked Odo.  I didn't like Sisko much, especially after they made him sort of deistic.
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Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 04:50:16 PM
Well, basically, it was a space city, not just a ship.  I liked Odo.  I didn't like Sisko much, especially after they made him sort of deistic.

I liked Garak vs Bashir.  Sisko was a prequel to the Obama deity.  Odo?  You just wish you could sleep in a bucket ;-)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 28, 2018, 11:28:13 AM
I just finished watching the third year of Better Call Saul, since year 3 just came out on video.  That took three days.  I tried to space the episodes out to savor them, but it's far too interesting for me to do that.  Year 1 and 2 were maybe a bit slow, but still highly interesting, but as often happens the crew is finding it's stride, and 3 really shows that.  I'm not sure if I over evaluate Better Call Saul because of my love affair with Breaking Bad, but I suppose I don't really care why I like it.  I'm now into watching the year over again to savor it some more.  I hate waiting a whole year for he disks, but then waiting for the next episode when there are only 10 in a season would drive me nuts too.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 28, 2018, 01:17:20 PM
I liked Odo.  I didn't like Sisko much, especially after they made him sort of deistic.
I'm most fond of the aliens in that series; Garak, Quark, Odo, Kira, and Gul Dukat.  They have such fascinating backstories and perspectives that conflict to varying degrees with Starfleet ideals.

The prophet stuff rubbed me the wrong way, but I grew to like Sisko.  The scenes were he plays hardball are a real treat.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on February 02, 2018, 02:29:45 AM
I'm most fond of the aliens in that series; Garak, Quark, Odo, Kira, and Gul Dukat.  They have such fascinating backstories and perspectives that conflict to varying degrees with Starfleet ideals.

The prophet stuff rubbed me the wrong way, but I grew to like Sisko.  The scenes were he plays hardball are a real treat.

Sisko was a good hard negotiator.  Quark grew.  Odo was always a bit weird.  Among the things I always enjoyed about all the Star Trek shows was that they always managed to come up with some special character who was "different".  Too many other sci-fi shows just had some human with antennas.  From Spock to the Voyager Doctor, each was interesting and unique.  And each explored what it meant to be "intelligent".
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on February 10, 2018, 07:26:33 PM
Watched 2 episodes of the Netflix series Altered Carbon. It's very Blade Runner-esque.
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Post by: Cavebear on February 13, 2018, 09:42:11 AM
Sisko was a good hard negotiator.  Quark grew.  Odo was always a bit weird.  Among the things I always enjoyed about all the Star Trek shows was that they always managed to come up with some special character who was "different".  Too many other sci-fi shows just had some human with antennas.  From Spock to the Voyager Doctor, each was interesting and unique.  And each explored what it meant to be "intelligent".

I will easily admit that the first time I saw the 1701 Enterprise in 1967, I was in awe of anything they did.  I was 17.  But as time went on, I grew and they didn't really.  Until New Generation.  And then DS9 and Voyager.  And then the movies.

I began to study the special characters.  Spock, Data, Guigan, the Doctor, Odo, 7 of 9.  They were all very different, but each was exploring some part of our human nature.  Someday, I may write about that.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 14, 2018, 05:08:04 PM
I heard netflix came out with a great anime series.

Three episodes into kakegurui, I'm starting to suspect people meant devilman crybaby.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on February 16, 2018, 08:13:20 PM
Have ya'll seen Black Mirror?

Currently watching the first season, and it's quite an intriguing hypothetical about how Internet has changed the society.
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Post by: GSOgymrat on February 21, 2018, 02:45:54 PM
I'm psyched for season 2 of Legion.

https://youtu.be/D9UcfgkU8hk
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on March 06, 2018, 09:59:17 PM
The Walking Dead

Simon is my new favorite character (after Gavin)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on March 06, 2018, 10:24:11 PM
TWD 8x10 The Lost and the Plunderers

I dunno what happened in the writers' room, but they actually upped their game a lot.  We got some decent drama without chewing the scenery.  The plot was mostly sensible - events proceeding from prior events in a believable way.  And it was all in-character, too!  What a rare treat.  Has that nice classic TWD aroma.  My compliments to the chef.
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 12, 2018, 03:21:39 PM
TWD 8x11

Mildly disappointing, but it set up exciting future events.

Tara and company carried the idiot ball this time around.

I'm really liking Negan's more subdued performances his half-season.  That guy was a gloriously hammy magnificent bastard in the comics, but the tv audience is much less tolerant of that stuff.  C'est la vie.

I can't say I loved Gabriel's B-plot, but the ending was gloriously ironic.  Didn't see that coming, lol.

If TV Eugene doesn't do what comic Eugene did at around this point, I'm going to be very disappointed.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 12, 2018, 03:27:07 PM
Star Wars Rebels did something relatively few kid-shows do well, in my humble opinion.
It nailed the ending.
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 12, 2018, 03:36:52 PM
Star Wars Rebels did something relatively few kid-shows do well, in my humble opinion.
It nailed the ending.
I'm still a couple episodes behind, but it's in my queue!  I've heard good things.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 12, 2018, 03:55:06 PM
I'm still a couple episodes behind, but it's in my queue!  I've heard good things.

Ah, I'll bite my tongue for now.

Ps. I've become more appreciative of kenobi vs maul. Unrelated to the finale. Just saying.
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Post by: Sal1981 on March 12, 2018, 05:48:35 PM
I'm psyched for season 2 of Legion.

https://youtu.be/D9UcfgkU8hk
(https://puu.sh/zGgL2.png)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 05:41:31 PM
If you are reading a thread about anything you haven't seen, spoilers are your own problem, LOL!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 26, 2018, 01:18:07 PM
Revisited avatar The last airbender.

I used to think it Was The Best cartoon of all time.

Watching it again, i am Swayed, however.

It is The best show of all time. Period.
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Post by: Baruch on March 26, 2018, 06:49:09 PM
Revisited avatar The last airbender.

I used to think it Was The Best cartoon of all time.

Watching it again, i am Swayed, however.

It is The best show of all time. Period.

But were you SJWed by the choice of actor for the prime role in the live action movie?

It is elemental, my dear Mr Obvious.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 26, 2018, 07:00:06 PM
But were you SJWed by the choice of actor for the prime role in the live action movie?

It is elemental, my dear Mr Obvious.

Don't care for that abomination.
Don't care about it either, as a result.

Initial groans, yes. But; crap is crap, and it doesn't destroy what is not crap.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on March 26, 2018, 07:10:59 PM
Don't care for that abomination.
Don't care about it either, as a result.

Initial groans, yes. But; crap is crap, and it doesn't destroy what is not crap.

How did you like Golden Compass?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 26, 2018, 07:21:21 PM
How did you like Golden Compass?

Never seen nor read it.
Trailer wasn't interesting.
Reviews even less so.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on March 27, 2018, 03:18:48 AM
Never seen nor read it.
Trailer wasn't interesting.
Reviews even less so.

Well I might go with "Spirited Away".  That was really good.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on March 27, 2018, 06:15:51 AM
Well I might go with "Spirited Away".  That was really good.

I have yet to meet with anyone who didn't like that one.
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Post by: trdsf on March 27, 2018, 01:57:15 PM
Well I might go with "Spirited Away".  That was really good.
I still haven't gotten around to seeing that, and I have always liked Miyazaki's work.  I think I'll set aside some time for it soonish.
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 29, 2018, 02:52:09 PM
TWD 8×13

I loved the first 15 minutes of this episode.  The action scenes in All Out War have been pretty damn good for the most part.

However, the show really struggles in other areas.  Case in point: last week's implausibly effective zombie ambush.

So after a big battle, our redshirts gather together to sleep on the floor.  And wouldn't you know it, a zombie sneaks up on them and bites a sleeping person.  Kinda strange that not one person in twenty was awake and watchful, but whatever.  Then another zombie FALLS DOWN THE FRIGGIN STAIRS and no one immediately wakes up.  Instead, the group of zombies have gotten three, maybe four people before people finally start to wake up and fight them off.  It's utter pandemonium with people ineffectually struggling against the zombies until our intrepid heroes rush in and save the day.

This is a writing trick I call "make the Redshirts incapable to make the protagonists look good".  TWD has had too much of this going on.

The protagonists should be (somewhat) more capable - but that's because they've done more and seen more.  They have the advantage of experience.  But the redshirts aren't supposed to lag too far behind them - they've seen their share of action, too.  Ideally, you want your protagonists to be agents of change who tip the scales in a conflict, not babysitters for people who are literally too dumb to live.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 12, 2018, 08:53:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QgfP9jL.jpg)

Granted, the finished product may look completely different...but I gotta say, this is one of the few DC shows I would actually be interested in watching and them looking like crap is throttling my mild hopes in the crib.  (let's just say that I would NOT be a blue lantern candidate, lol)
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Post by: Cavebear on April 12, 2018, 09:19:58 PM
I still haven't gotten around to seeing that, and I have always liked Miyazaki's work.  I think I'll set aside some time for it soonish.

It is slow at points, but worth it by the end. 
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 20, 2018, 12:30:13 AM
Ah, I'll bite my tongue for now.
[member=25474]Mr.Obvious[/member] Okay, I've finished Star Wars Rebels.  You may fire when ready.  :)

My review is that the series finale is better than the last 3 Star Wars movies put together.  Surpassed all my hopes.  Very dramatic, very touching, very inspirational, very...unexpected.

“Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Post by: Blackleaf on April 20, 2018, 09:39:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/QgfP9jL.jpg)

Granted, the finished product may look completely different...but I gotta say, this is one of the few DC shows I would actually be interested in watching and them looking like crap is throttling my mild hopes in the crib.  (let's just say that I would NOT be a blue lantern candidate, lol)

They all look terrible, especially Starfire, who has that "does your mother know you're wearing her drapes" kind of look. From what I've heard, it sounds like they're changing her personality too. Now she's a bad ass, no nonsense type. If that's true, they clearly don't understand the character at all. And what's the deal with dyeing their hair all these bright colors? Did they think that green hair was a substitute for green skin? They don't look like super heroes. They look like they just came from Hot Topic.
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Post by: trdsf on April 20, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
They all look terrible, especially Starfire, who has that "does your mother know you're wearing her drapes" kind of look. From what I've heard, it sounds like they're changing her personality too. Now she's a bad ass, no nonsense type. If that's true, they clearly don't understand the character at all. And what's the deal with dyeing their hair all these bright colors? Did they think that green hair was a substitute for green skin? They don't look like super heroes. They look like they just came from Hot Topic.
The cosplayers actually do the better job of looking like the actual comic book characters than the cartoon or live-action portrayals do.

Now, there *is* actually a good reason for not making Beast Boy his proper comic book color in live-action TV -- green screen special effects.
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Post by: Blackleaf on April 20, 2018, 02:09:49 PM
The cosplayers actually do the better job of looking like the actual comic book characters than the cartoon or live-action portrayals do.

Now, there *is* actually a good reason for not making Beast Boy his proper comic book color in live-action TV -- green screen special effects.

Wouldn't the hair still be a problem for green screen?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on April 20, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
Wouldn't the hair still be a problem for green screen?
It may be a safe shade; I'd've thought it would be problematic too, but bluescreen is also an alternative.  It's one they couldn't use in Supergirl when they started introducing Legionnaires -- there was a certain amount of fansquawk over Brainiac 5 being blue.  But, realistically, they couldn't leave him green and then bluescreen because then the lead character's costume disappears...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 20, 2018, 06:26:50 PM
It may be a safe shade; I'd've thought it would be problematic too, but bluescreen is also an alternative.  It's one they couldn't use in Supergirl when they started introducing Legionnaires -- there was a certain amount of fansquawk over Brainiac 5 being blue.  But, realistically, they couldn't leave him green and then bluescreen because then the lead character's costume disappears...

What is wrong with the lead character's costume disappearing (if you know what I mean)?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on April 24, 2018, 05:32:55 PM
[member=25474]Mr.Obvious[/member] Okay, I've finished Star Wars Rebels.  You may fire when ready.  :)

My review is that the series finale is better than the last 3 Star Wars movies put together.  Surpassed all my hopes.  Very dramatic, very touching, very inspirational, very...unexpected.

“Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Yeah, hit 'em where they aint...  And I loved that scene in 'Battleship' where the American guy confused the Chinese Sun Tzu with the Japanese guy... 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 24, 2018, 07:02:34 PM
Yeah, hit 'em where they aint...  And I loved that scene in 'Battleship' where the American guy confused the Chinese Sun Tzu with the Japanese guy...

Any modern Japanese guy would have memorized Sun Tzu.  Japanese learn from anyone, and from China long before the stupid Americans.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 24, 2018, 08:53:03 PM
Yeah, hit 'em where they aint...
That drives me crazy.  In strategy games, I'm often assembling a grand army to launch a massive assault.  In the meantime, my outposts get harassed by pathetic forces that I could crush in an instant if they were anywhere near my army.  So instead, I have to rely on several regional armies to maintain my borders while a much diminished main army assaults the enemy.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 24, 2018, 09:02:46 PM
That drives me crazy.  In strategy games, I'm often assembling a grand army to launch a massive assault.  In the meantime, my outposts get harassed by pathetic forces that I could crush in an instant if they were anywhere near my army.  So instead, I have to rely on several regional armies to maintain my borders while a much diminished main army assaults the enemy.

The Barbarians are annoying, particularly when sacking your capital city ;-)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 25, 2018, 11:26:10 AM
I started binge watching Stargate SG1 for the ___ time.  I've lost track, maybe about the 6th or 7th, give or take.  The reason for the comment is that I'm amazed at myself for liking this series as much as I do.  It never gets old (for me).  I know all the stories, but forget a few of the minor details, but every time I watch it, it just makes me happy and creates a powerful visceral experience.  This last binge happened because I watched the original movie with James Spader and Kurt Russell instead of Shanks and Anderson.  I originally saw the first movie years ago, and it did nothing for me, but watching it with the knowledge of the series and seeing how the two interconnect so well, and now knowing what the mishmash of happenings that take place in the movie actually mean, I actually liked the movie.

The series starts a little slow.  Without knowing how the series would evolve, I would not have been surprised if the network had cancelled it after the first couple of seasons, but it apparently struck a nerve, and continued on to become one of my favorites, maybe my favorite.  At first, the idea of walking through portals to the far reaches of the universe seemed too absurd, but now in the context of science fiction, it makes perfect sense.  And the stories engage me over and over again.  I never bothered watching one episode of the series on TV, because the movie left me so cold.  I took an interest much later, as I sometimes do.  I'm happy that I have the disks and can binge watch.  I'd go a little nuts waiting a week for the next episode.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 25, 2018, 12:26:02 PM
At first, the idea of walking through portals to the far reaches of the universe seemed too absurd, but now in the context of science fiction, it makes perfect sense.
I got prepped for that with Sliders.  It's an amazing plot device.  Want to shoot the next episode in the desert?  The team jumps through the portal and lands in the desert.  Any location you can think of (and make a convincing set for) you can make happen onscreen easily.  Want to pinch some pennies and reuse the SG1 set?  The teams jumps in the portal and gets spat out at Cheyenne mountain in an alternate dimension.  Cha-ching!

When you think with portals, you get unlimited story possibilities (great for writers) at a snappy pace (great for the audience) and on budget (great for producers).  Everyone wins!
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Post by: SGOS on April 25, 2018, 01:45:34 PM
I got prepped for that with Sliders.  It's an amazing plot device. 
OK, I am unfamiliar with Sliders, but I looked it up on Amazon, and there are 5 seasons.  Is this what you refer to or is there a movie you are talking about?  I'm going to order it, because the concept sounds like something I would like.

Along similar lines is Jumper, which I don't think got rave reviews, while I very much enjoy it.  There are a couple of weak points in the story, which I don't know how I would fix if I were in charge, but the concept is unique.  A high school kid realizes that he can simply jump (actually dematerialize and rematerialize) to any place on Earth, which opens up a lot of interesting situations.  Have you seen that one? 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on April 25, 2018, 02:32:20 PM
Well, on the subject or TV... farewell and RIP Bob Dorough.  Who's that?

The guy who created Schoolhouse Rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i2AN2CC-60
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 25, 2018, 07:38:45 PM
OK, I am unfamiliar with Sliders, but I looked it up on Amazon, and there are 5 seasons.  Is this what you refer to or is there a movie you are talking about?  I'm going to order it, because the concept sounds like something I would like.

Along similar lines is Jumper, which I don't think got rave reviews, while I very much enjoy it.  There are a couple of weak points in the story, which I don't know how I would fix if I were in charge, but the concept is unique.  A high school kid realizes that he can simply jump (actually dematerialize and rematerialize) to any place on Earth, which opens up a lot of interesting situations.  Have you seen that one?

The first season was very good, but then the writing got weak ...
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 25, 2018, 11:43:27 PM
OK, I am unfamiliar with Sliders, but I looked it up on Amazon, and there are 5 seasons.  Is this what you refer to or is there a movie you are talking about?  I'm going to order it, because the concept sounds like something I would like.
Yes, that's it.  But watch out!  Sliders has a very mixed reception.  You might like it or you might hate it.

On one hand, it was an innovative concept for the time (mid-late 90s).  Arguably, it paved the way for a lot of sci-fi series, including SG-1.  And the core group is very likable and they have a lot of fun banter.  And it had a great season arc at around season 3.

On the other hand...the show has aged very poorly.  20+ year old special effects that weren't all that impressive even during those times.  For the most part, really hackneyed, unimaginative worlds and plots.  Drinking game: take a swig every time Quinn and co get captured, foment a rebellion, and/or the timer messes up.  2 episodes in one sitting = kidney failure.  And for the love of all things holy, burn season 4+5.  They're not worth your time, I guarantee it.  The show started declining pretty early on and seasons 4 and 5 are pure cancer.  Its cancellation was well deserved.

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Along similar lines is Jumper, which I don't think got rave reviews, while I very much enjoy it.  There are a couple of weak points in the story, which I don't know how I would fix if I were in charge, but the concept is unique.  A high school kid realizes that he can simply jump (actually dematerialize and rematerialize) to any place on Earth, which opens up a lot of interesting situations.  Have you seen that one?
Yes.  It struck me as pretty derivative, but interesting.  I appreciate that they at least tried to do their own thing with it.  I didn't care for the paladin stuff, though.  It was a great concept, but it didn't really work for me for some reason.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 25, 2018, 11:59:13 PM
Also, my head canon is that Rick from Rick and Morty stumbled across the gang from Sliders when they 'slid' into Rick's home dimension.  Rick stole their timer, perfected the technology, then shoved them into a portal that lead to an Earth still ruled by dinosaurs.  The Sliders characters are all dead, ripped apart by a hungry Albertosaurus
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 26, 2018, 02:44:07 AM
Yes, that's it.  But watch out!  Sliders has a very mixed reception.  You might like it or you might hate it.

On one hand, it was an innovative concept for the time (mid-late 90s).  Arguably, it paved the way for a lot of sci-fi series, including SG-1.  And the core group is very likable and they have a lot of fun banter.  And it had a great season arc at around season 3.

On the other hand...the show has aged very poorly.  20+ year old special effects that weren't all that impressive even during those times.  For the most part, really hackneyed, unimaginative worlds and plots.  Drinking game: take a swig every time Quinn and co get captured, foment a rebellion, and/or the timer messes up.  2 episodes in one sitting = kidney failure.  And for the love of all things holy, burn season 4+5.  They're not worth your time, I guarantee it.  The show started declining pretty early on and seasons 4 and 5 are pure cancer.  Its cancellation was well deserved.
I ordered season 1 and 2, rather than the whole series, just in case.

Yes.  It struck me as pretty derivative (Jumper), but interesting.  I appreciate that they at least tried to do their own thing with it.  I didn't care for the paladin stuff, though.
Yeah, the paladin stuff was one of those things I don't know how to fix, because hero movies need a foil, but getting rid of Samuel Jackson's wig would be a place to start.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 26, 2018, 09:08:38 AM
I ordered season 1 and 2, rather than the whole series, just in case.
Good.  It peaked in season 3, imo.

And looking back, some season 4 episodes were pretty good, so that season wasn't complete garbage, though it definitely started declining here.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 27, 2018, 06:38:21 AM
We are mesmerized by British baking shows, such as The Great British Baking Show and The Big Family Cooking Show Down. The opposite is Nailed It-- total trash.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 27, 2018, 08:41:58 AM
I remember an episode of Northern Exposure where Holling got a satellite dish, and Shelly became TV zombie, eventually gravitating to the shopping channels where she spent their entire honeymoon budget buying trinkets.

But to get back to gymrat's post, there was another one where all the guys were watching nothing but sports at the bar.  Finally in a rage, Holling turned off the TV, and to a wall of disgruntled disgust, announced that no one could watch anymore TV because he hated sports, including his home country's Canadian hockey.  So a few days later, everyone ended up watching cooking shows, and seemed to be content, as long as the TV was on and they could be drinking beer while discussing cooking.  Holling didn't seem to have problems with that.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 27, 2018, 01:07:25 PM
Two kinds of people.  Those who can function with the TV on, but music off.  And those who can function with music on, but the TV off.  My ex and I were opposites.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 10:30:15 AM
Did you ever notice the similarity between Daniel Jackson in SG1 and Kramer on Seinfeld?  Both of them are always getting other people to do stupid things that end in disaster.  Talk about drinking games.  How about taking a shot every time the following scenario happens:

Colonel O'Neill says something like, "We wait here until nightfall.  On my command, we will do [whatever.]"
Without even looking in O'Neill's direction, Jackson gets up and heads down the hill. 
O'Neill says, "Daniel, get back here.  We wait until dark,"
Jackson replies, "I'm going now."
O'Neill in aggravation asks, "Why now, Daniel?"
Jackson says, "Because I have to."  <---  [drink shot here]
Then everyone gets captured by the enemy and ends up about to die, or as slaves in a naquadah mine.  Of course O'Neill saves everyone, including Daniel, who should have been left under the pile of rocks in the mine collapse for all the good he does.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 11:15:51 AM
"Come on Daniel.  We're headed back through the stargate."
"Wait, Jack.  I have to study this room.  It offers clues to an ancient civilization."
"Daniel, if we don't leave now we're going to be sucked into a black hole in three minutes."
"No, Jack!  You don't understand.  We have to stay.  This room may even tell us the meaning of life."
[drink shot]
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 28, 2018, 02:25:08 PM
Daniel is a bit of a bleeding heart, which is bad in his line of work because they encounter tons of natives who invariably suffer from oppression or existential threats.  He wants to intervene all the time, but realistically, that's impossible.

Though the Stargate project succeeds beyond all expectation in a large part due to befriending powerful natives, so there's a decent case that could be made for interventionism.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 28, 2018, 02:27:03 PM
Daniel is a bit of a bleeding heart, which is bad in his line of work because they encounter tons of natives who invariably suffer from oppression or existential threats.  He wants to intervene all the time, but realistically, that's impossible.

Though the Stargate project succeeds beyond all expectation in a large part due to befriending powerful natives, so there's a decent case that could be made for interventionism.

Capt Kirk knew, you violate the Prime Directive very selectively, not every episode.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 03:49:57 PM
Sometimes in the inextricable situations that Daniel creates, some form of unimaginable luck comes out of nowhere and saves the day.  When he falls because of his illogical actions, he falls upwards.  That's the kind of guy you need fighting aliens.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 28, 2018, 05:30:41 PM
When he falls because of his illogical actions, he falls upwards.
You can say that again. 
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Not sure that I have to mark that with a spoiler. It's been over 10 years since that show ended.  Anyone who wanted to watch it presumably got around to it by now.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 07:07:07 PM
You can say that again. 
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Not sure that I have to mark that with a spoiler. It's been over 10 years since that show ended.  Anyone who wanted to watch it presumably got around to it by now.
Probably doesn't matter.  There are so many episodes, you will never know in which one/ones it's going to happen.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: aitm on April 28, 2018, 08:00:40 PM
I remember an episode of Northern Exposure where Holling got a satellite dish, and Shelly became TV zombie, eventually gravitating to the shopping channels where she spent their entire honeymoon budget buying trinkets.

But to get back to gymrat's post, there was another one where all the guys were watching nothing but sports at the bar.  Finally in a rage, Holling turned off the TV, and to a wall of disgruntled disgust, announced that no one could watch anymore TV because he hated sports, including his home country's Canadian hockey.  So a few days later, everyone ended up watching cooking shows, and seemed to be content, as long as the TV was on and they could be drinking beer while discussing cooking.  Holling didn't seem to have problems with that.

In my opinion  NE was one of the most under-rated shows of all time. A wonderful cheeky fun romp with the occasional somber moment only to be ripped in the next scene. Enjoyed that show.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 28, 2018, 08:06:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCCbLTSMyRA

Their masks have a long snout...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 08:39:20 PM
Their masks have a long snout...
I remember that moment.  I haven't gotten to it yet in my current binge.  There must be two or three hundred episodes in the entire run.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 28, 2018, 08:52:46 PM
I remember that moment.  I haven't gotten to it yet in my current binge.  There must be two or three hundred episodes in the entire run.
214 episodes and 2 direct-to-dvd films.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 28, 2018, 09:07:07 PM
In my opinion  NE was one of the most under-rated shows of all time. A wonderful cheeky fun romp with the occasional somber moment only to be ripped in the next scene. Enjoyed that show.
I've never looked at it's ratings, but no one I know seems to underrate it.  It was so successful and so unique that I would think someone would try to mimic it, not necessarily as an Alaska thing, but the quirky strangeness, the combination of drama, comedy, and unexplainable episodes that may have been supernatural, or just dreamed.  I can't think of another series like it.  I seldom followed many series back when I had a TV, but I would follow the better ones when I had time.  Northern Exposure was the one show I would set aside a whole night for so I wouldn't miss it.

I think I stumbled onto it one night close to beginning. It was the episode where patient number 9 dies in the doctor's waiting room, and the town adopts the corpse even though no one knew who he was or where he came from, puts him out on a picnic table because the ground is too frozen to dig a grave, and takes turns guarding the body so that wolves don't drag him off like they did to old Ed or whatever his name was when he died in the winter, as Maurice pointed out to volunteers.  I was hooked with that one episode.  I felt like I had stumbled onto something worthy of following religiously, and it turned out to be just that.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 29, 2018, 01:12:27 AM
Twin Peaks, mocked in the Twin Beaks Sesame Street episode ;-)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on April 29, 2018, 09:04:45 AM
When Northern Exposure came to an end, maybe before then, I wondered what would happen to the cast.  I later stumbled onto Rob Morrow playing a detective on some ordinary cop show typical of the TV garbage of the previous 20 years.  It seemed like Morrow had fallen from stardom to mediocrity, and I actually felt sorry for him having to settle for such and unimportant role.  It was like he was trying to pay his rent the way Nicolas Cage has ended up.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 19, 2018, 09:56:45 PM
For the record, I can't express my level of contempt in a literal way right now with what I've just seen. I'll let the video after speak for me.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 19, 2018, 11:18:08 PM
For the record, I can't express my level of contempt in a literal way right now with what I've just seen. I'll let the video after speak for me.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/zimwiki/images/c/c1/Why.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150430011524)

Yeah.  F that art style in particular.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on May 21, 2018, 03:25:22 AM
Just started Atlanta... holy fucking shit, it's good. Is there any Donald Glover project that isn't instantly golden? This dude is literally become THE man of this generation.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on May 21, 2018, 06:43:41 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/zimwiki/images/c/c1/Why.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150430011524)

Yeah.  F that art style in particular.

The Chibis are coming, they are coming for youuuuuu

Zim was an antidote to chibiness
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on May 21, 2018, 09:37:22 AM
For the record, I can't express my level of contempt in a literal way right now with what I've just seen. I'll let the video after speak for me.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
(https://i.redd.it/f96squ0274yy.jpg)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: GSOgymrat on May 22, 2018, 05:12:48 PM
From CBS, the premise:

A podcast-hosting, self-proclaimed “pesky atheist who wants to make you think” (Brandon Micheal Hall) isn’t so sure what to think when he’s friended by God on Facebook and then poked to help strangers for reasons that aren’t immediately clear. The truth is there’s more to this story than our hero or anyone else knows.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XfmicoyZw&t=238s
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 22, 2018, 07:11:16 PM
From CBS, the premise:

A podcast-hosting, self-proclaimed “pesky atheist who wants to make you think” (Brandon Micheal Hall) isn’t so sure what to think when he’s friended by God on Facebook and then poked to help strangers for reasons that aren’t immediately clear. The truth is there’s more to this story than our hero or anyone else knows.
As if I needed another reason to stay away from Facebook.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on May 22, 2018, 09:54:16 PM
As if I needed another reason to stay away from Facebook.
As if I needed another reason to stay away from network TV.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on May 22, 2018, 10:08:10 PM
From CBS, the premise:

A podcast-hosting, self-proclaimed “pesky atheist who wants to make you think” (Brandon Micheal Hall) isn’t so sure what to think when he’s friended by God on Facebook and then poked to help strangers for reasons that aren’t immediately clear. The truth is there’s more to this story than our hero or anyone else knows.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XfmicoyZw&t=238s

I give it two episodes...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 23, 2018, 11:31:48 AM
(https://i.redd.it/f96squ0274yy.jpg)

I think this guy explains what it is pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OyUy1XeAVA

This is what has happened to western animation. Now don't get me wrong, I like steven universe, I like my little pony and gravity falls and can understand the like for adventure time and rick and morty even if I don't really watch them.

However, those were original creations, and while the same kind of style was in many of them, I just overlooked the fact because they are all pretty good creations.

This however is what happenes when someone, who claimed to be a fan of an original show, but just didnt' get what made it popular, decides to put his own tone on the material, trying to appeal to those who like the current animation style of today, while just saying fuck you you the original.

When you have people who put everything into making thundercats look good in 2011.:

(https://i.gifer.com/KMr4.gif)(https://media3.giphy.com/media/nEDYTEnUGPgNq/giphy.gif)(http://i44.tinypic.com/whhjs.gif)

You know, a proper homage to it, for them to cancel this show halfway into the second season, just to replace it with this shit that makes the characters look like their made out of silly putty, then you know the fucker who put this together just didn't get what made people like the original.

It be like making a batman cartoon with this design.

(https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--GrkQg08B--/t_Preview/b_rgb:484849,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1458774690/production/designs/456099_1.jpg)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on May 23, 2018, 04:18:08 PM
i blame the Lego Batman movie.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on May 23, 2018, 07:12:52 PM
I think this guy explains what it is pretty well.
I tuned out when he started going on about SJWs, however... it's pretty clear to me, even as someone who didn't grow up on this series, that this is completely fucked up.  It looks like it was drawn by a kindergartener -- an average one, not a kindergartener who can actually draw.  I compare it to my having grown up reading (among others) Teen Titans comics... and then looking at the shitpile that is 'Teen Titans Go'.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 23, 2018, 08:12:44 PM
I tuned out when he started going on about SJWs, however... it's pretty clear to me, even as someone who didn't grow up on this series, that this is completely fucked up.  It looks like it was drawn by a kindergartener -- an average one, not a kindergartener who can actually draw.  I compare it to my having grown up reading (among others) Teen Titans comics... and then looking at the shitpile that is 'Teen Titans Go'.

yeah that's pretty much it. Its also the fact the original teen titans series, which I didn't watch but can see why it was so popular, was brought to an end after 5 seasons, just to be replaced with this crap, because it doesn't require thought or heavy planning to mass produce something that only keep making so many episodes for, as its aimed at very young children.

I mean, who wants to hear stories of the girl who struggles to keep the demonic evil inside of her due to her demon fathers influence, or the emotional struggle of someone having to let go people they cared for when their memory was wiped, NAH, LETS HAVE EPISODES ABOUT TOILET FUN AND PANCAKES!

This is a massive pet peeve for me, this dumbing down for children crap people like this do. I was 6-7 then the original thundercats was on tv, and while the stories are a little corny as were the morals at the end of each episode, it wasn't dumbed down for kids as badly as it is today, likewise neither was transformers, or he-man, kids watched those shows in the 80s where their was action, fighting, characters in relationships, inner turmoil.

Its these people who think they need to dumb down cartoons, like cartoon network, because kids are to dumb to get more complex stories then 'singing about waffles'.

maybe george carlin hit the point perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaTy38X0jvU

keep kids dumb, dumb kids make dumb adults and easier to control.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on May 23, 2018, 08:22:13 PM
I mean, who wants to hear stories of the girl who struggles to keep the demonic evil inside of her due to her demon fathers influence, or the emotional struggle of someone having to let go people they cared for when their memory was wiped, NAH, LETS HAVE EPISODES ABOUT TOILET FUN AND PANCAKES!
Exactly.  The whole Trigon arc was a brilliant bit of storytelling, and Raven was a great character because of her struggles, not despite them.

This is why my personal mantra with regard to my writing is "full creative control".  Because I'd rather turn down a multimillion dollar contract than let some hack completely fuck up characters I have lived with for nearly thirty years.

Also, if you dumb things down for kids, you end up with dumb kids.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 23, 2018, 08:53:46 PM
It be like making a batman cartoon with this design.

(https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--GrkQg08B--/t_Preview/b_rgb:484849,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1458774690/production/designs/456099_1.jpg)
WTF happened to Supe's face?!  Someone call Clayface 'cause that guy needs a plastic surgeon pronto!

Tangential thing that I think [member=25792]Munch[/member] will be interested in:

(https://i.redditmedia.com/7u-vnXJGXQjkKxVHgV73L1h7ZrN0Dh4iA5iyKif5Vdk.png?fit=crop&crop=faces%2Centropy&arh=2&w=960&s=48d1c09b44a0d4e9eaf0290deba35689)

(https://www.dramafever.com/st/news/images/50fc4cab-7b19-4f96-9203-d29616cbd007.png)

Granted, these are pretty oversimplified, but broadly (very, very broadly) I find this to be a pretty accurate depiction of how western animation norms have changed over the years.

Particularly noticeable is how newer shows have a more "rounded" look.  If it's difficult to tell if a character has elbows, it's a fairly safe bet that it's a cartoon from the 2010s.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 24, 2018, 05:33:14 AM
I don't even mind the kind of styles in animation now when creating new and unique shows like say Steven universe, adventure time, gravity falls, their new concepts so the style of drawing becomes part of their identity.
It doesn't work when a pre established product, which became popular, suddenly gets molded into a new current style that doesn't match its old style.

I loved shows like batman the animated series, x-men, gargoyles, they had unique styles that gave them their quality, but more so they were cartoons with a serious, real world tone to them, so they couldn't be given a goofy, slapstick style of animation.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/33a8a1b8187e36e731893652e3e1aaba/tumblr_mzximmR8pb1sl5leko4_r1_400.gif)

That's why I wouldn't want these kind of shows made today, and looking at what they did to thundercats highlights perfectly why that is.

I mean hell, one of the early episodes of gargoyles had one of the main characters, Broadway, who visited their human friend Elisa, and playing around with her gun after he watched a western, he accidentally shot her. not a lazer gun either, a proper gun, she was bleeding on the floor, and she nearly died in hospital. You just can't make a story like that and show now grounded it is in a goofy, slapstick style of animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf1vNNBdzJs
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 24, 2018, 09:24:44 PM
This is a good video on the problem with this premise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZBmYOCWJ9o&feature=youtu.be&t=1m56s
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 24, 2018, 09:46:15 PM
This is a good video on the problem with this premise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZBmYOCWJ9o&feature=youtu.be&t=1m56s
Oof.  There's lazy and then there's Sizemore-tier laziness. (a writer who essentially photo-copied characters from work to another)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 24, 2018, 10:05:14 PM
Oof.  There's lazy and then there's Sizemore-tier laziness. (a writer who essentially photo-copied characters from work to another)

Makes me think of the comic book artist Greg Land, who drew some works for marvels ultimate series, and was notorious for drawing most female characters in the comics by tracing porno images

(https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50062/1001229484/original/greg-land-_swipes_-everybody-from-sandra-bullock-to-famous-porn-stars-to-everyone-in-betwee-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 24, 2018, 10:20:40 PM
Makes me think of the comic book artist Greg Land, who drew some works for marvels ultimate series, and was notorious for drawing most female characters in the comics by tracing porno images.
I remember that.  Good times.

Apparently, a lot of MTG cards were based on real people:

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/252818CounterspellIceAgePics.png)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on May 25, 2018, 09:06:54 AM
The Teen Titan change was a real bummer!  I mean, they weren't real special as teens, but as comic strip characters?  BLAH! 

I don't need Prince Valiant quality drawings.  But this new garbage is "Nancy" quality or worse.  I LIKE simple animation.  The Simpsons are just fine with me.  You aren't watching for the quality animation.  But its the plots and jokes you want there.  I love Phineas and Ferb (et al) for the humor, not the art.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 15, 2018, 10:30:31 AM
(https://i.redd.it/wyumelahl1a11.jpg)

A guy can dream.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 15, 2018, 11:19:41 AM
(https://i.redd.it/wyumelahl1a11.jpg)

A guy can dream.

Are they still making and remaking that game?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 15, 2018, 10:03:33 PM
Are they still making and remaking that game?
Are you talking about Containment Breach?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 16, 2018, 02:10:16 AM
Are you talking about Containment Breach?

Yes, based on this, innit?

I tried to join The wiki-group or whatever it was called, once, years ago.
Great lore.
I got declined.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 16, 2018, 09:07:34 AM
Yes, based on this, innit?

I tried to join The wiki-group or whatever it was called, once, years ago.
Great lore.
I got declined.
The wiki group is the source of all things SCP, including Containment Breach.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on July 17, 2018, 04:36:25 AM
That looks vaguely like the remake of The Prisoner.  I tried to discuss it with a friend who loved the original (as did I) and he was so annoyed he refused to speak about it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on July 17, 2018, 07:20:22 AM
That looks vaguely like the remake of The Prisoner.  I tried to discuss it with a friend who loved the original (as did I) and he was so annoyed he refused to speak about it.
The remake was ill-conceived, but not terrible.  I mean, Ian McKellan.  I think they'd've made a better go of it had the remake just been its own thing and not molded as a remake.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 17, 2018, 07:35:48 PM
The remake was ill-conceived, but not terrible.  I mean, Ian McKellan.  I think they'd've made a better go of it had the remake just been its own thing and not molded as a remake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdsrOJNeMFs

Can't mix American and English languages ;-(  The original was interesting because it wasn't American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwLjN5ArUVU

Most original take on the Deep State.  The true Resistance ... "I am not a number!"
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on July 21, 2018, 07:45:00 AM
The remake was ill-conceived, but not terrible.  I mean, Ian McKellan.  I think they'd've made a better go of it had the remake just been its own thing and not molded as a remake.

Yeah, sometimes a rip-off can be better than a bad redo...  BTW, I watched 'Day Of The Doctor' and 'No More' about the end of Gallifree and loved the 4 hours...  Looking forward to seeing how the Doctor does as a woman.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on July 21, 2018, 09:48:33 PM
Yeah, sometimes a rip-off can be better than a bad redo...  BTW, I watched 'Day Of The Doctor' and 'No More' about the end of Gallifree and loved the 4 hours...  Looking forward to seeing how the Doctor does as a woman.
The funny thing is, regeneration was a completely ad hoc play by the BBC.  Doctor Who was spectacularly popular, but William Hartnell was too unwell to continue the role -- in some of his later episodes, you can see him struggling with his lines, but they had to keep the shot because their schedules were so tight.

So Doctor Who is dominating the British airwaves in 1966 and Hartnell can't continue, so they decided to see if they could get away with just directly replacing the main actor and handwaving it away as him being an alien.  At the time, they had none of the twelve regenerations per Time Lord backstory built yet -- that didn't really get settled until the Pertwee era.  But they got away with it.  :)

I'm looking forward to the Jodie Whittaker era -- friend of mine is a fan of Broadchurch, in which she starred with David Tennant, and says she's fantastic (to borrow a Ninth Doctor catchphrase).  I have a "two years to own the role" policy for new Doctors and really, there aren't any I dislike, although there are some I like a lot better than others.  I'm really hopeful that she's going to be in the Pat Troughton/Tom Baker/Sylvester McCoy mold of "first you underestimate me, then I destroy you" Doctor, and the outfit they've chosen for her definitely looks back to the classic series.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 22, 2018, 03:51:10 PM
Has nobody ever talked about this program before?  It is like Big Bang Theory ... with software ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69V__a49xtw
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 23, 2018, 10:21:49 PM
**Photosensitive epilepsy warning**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dIwGAYcWk

Heh, this show is going to be such a gigantic trainwreck.  I'm so excited!  I'm super interested in it now since I plan on using this as MST3K fodder - just sit with a friend and rip this a new one in real time.  This is going to be the perfect so-bad-it's-hilarious show!  The jokes practically write themselves.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on July 24, 2018, 12:16:50 AM
**Photosensitive epilepsy warning**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dIwGAYcWk

Heh, this show is going to be such a gigantic trainwreck.  I'm so excited!  I'm super interested in it now since I plan on using this as MST3K fodder - just sit with a friend and rip this a new one in real time.  This is going to be the perfect so-bad-it's-hilarious show!  The jokes practically write themselves.

Ugh, there's nothing I hate so much as crapsack universes where everything is violent and angsty and awful.  And Akiva Goldsman is dead to me ever since I, Robot.  I consider him the Jack Kevorkian of script doctors.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 24, 2018, 04:35:17 AM
Has nobody ever talked about this program before?  It is like Big Bang Theory ... with software ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69V__a49xtw
Except Big Bang Theory show is a pile of garbage show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxFPmF1puW4
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 24, 2018, 05:48:57 AM
Deflection?

Yes, BBT has aged poorly.  But then so have I.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on July 24, 2018, 11:56:40 AM
**Photosensitive epilepsy warning**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dIwGAYcWk

Heh, this show is going to be such a gigantic trainwreck.  I'm so excited!  I'm super interested in it now since I plan on using this as MST3K fodder - just sit with a friend and rip this a new one in real time.  This is going to be the perfect so-bad-it's-hilarious show!  The jokes practically write themselves.

Problems:

1. "Fuck Batman." OMG.

2. Raven is just fucking bland. She was my favorite of the Teen Titans cartoon characters, and now she has no personality. Similar problems exist for the other characters too. Looks like Starfire doesn't resemble her original self at all, but is being played as a "badass." Seriously?

3. Speaking of Starfire, she's a fire bender now?

4. I like how they cut away just before we can see Beast Boy transform into his badly animated CGI animal form.

5. They're turning every character into a tragic hero. Gone are the interesting, varied personalities that played off of each other so well in the cartoon. Now they're just going to be competing for the role of most tortured hero.

6. This show looks like it's going to be a worse trainwreck than Teen Titans GO, which means it'll probably get at least five seasons...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on July 25, 2018, 06:32:35 PM
The funny thing is, regeneration was a completely ad hoc play by the BBC.  Doctor Who was spectacularly popular, but William Hartnell was too unwell to continue the role -- in some of his later episodes, you can see him struggling with his lines, but they had to keep the shot because their schedules were so tight.

So Doctor Who is dominating the British airwaves in 1966 and Hartnell can't continue, so they decided to see if they could get away with just directly replacing the main actor and handwaving it away as him being an alien.  At the time, they had none of the twelve regenerations per Time Lord backstory built yet -- that didn't really get settled until the Pertwee era.  But they got away with it.  :)

I'm looking forward to the Jodie Whittaker era -- friend of mine is a fan of Broadchurch, in which she starred with David Tennant, and says she's fantastic (to borrow a Ninth Doctor catchphrase).  I have a "two years to own the role" policy for new Doctors and really, there aren't any I dislike, although there are some I like a lot better than others.  I'm really hopeful that she's going to be in the Pat Troughton/Tom Baker/Sylvester McCoy mold of "first you underestimate me, then I destroy you" Doctor, and the outfit they've chosen for her definitely looks back to the classic series.

I have some doubts.  Part of the male Doctor has been his disinterest in the female companions (except River Song) sexually and I'm not sure that will work with a female Doctor.  Though the same disinterest might remain, it wouldn't quite be the same.

But I do look forward to seeing the change.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on July 27, 2018, 05:53:54 AM
The first season was very good, but then the writing got weak ...

Yes, that's it.  But watch out!  Sliders has a very mixed reception.  You might like it or you might hate it.

As I said, I ordered seasons 1 and 2.  Gee that was a long time ago, and put them aside as I had gotten involved with some home improvement projects.  I forgot that I even had them, but remembered when I noticed them still in the plastic wrapped cases in my video library a couple of weeks ago.  I liked them, not blockbuster total immersion kind of like, but definitely worth the purchase.

I wasn't sure through season one, as it seemed a bit too much like childish fantasy, rather than more serious sci fi.  Things like intentionally running into the vortex and then fearfully yelling and screaming until they shoot out tumbling and groaning and crashing into each other on the other end.  By season two, I had adjusted to the tongue in cheek format, and the oftentimes face palm worthy presentation, which may or may not have been intentional.  I have three episodes left of season two, which I'm trying to space out and savor as it will be 10 days before I get season three, which has been sold out at most locations.  I bought it from some outfit I had never heard of, and am looking forward to it. 

When I finish season three that will probably be enough. Almost every review says what you guys have said, but are much more emphatic about how the series fell off a cliff under new but hopelessly misdirected and destructive network management, with the cast walking away from the project and having to be replaced.  I can also see season three using up all of my redundancy tolerance.  I have mixed reactions to every episode being a new dimension that has to be escaped from before one of the foursome is killed or lost.  Wouldn't most dimensions be less dangerous than that, at least some?

It is fun anticipating the new surprises in each new place, and when I'm done, I'll watch it again and see if season doesn't jar me as much as it did the first time around, now that I know what to expect.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on July 27, 2018, 06:19:02 AM
Deflection?
Yes, BBT has aged poorly.  But then so have I.
It never got off the ground for me, so I never watched it age.  It just seemed like a 1980s sitcom.  OK, not quite that bad.  The late 70s and early 80s were the years television networks tested the limits of how much crap they could put out and still keep people watching.  I think there was a global conspiracy between networks:  "If you don't produce anything worth watching, then we won't either."  The term "T and A" (kiddie porn) came out of that period.  The trend was broken with Cheers, when some network decided to break out of the mold of low end mediocrity and create something interesting, even cerebral by comparison.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 27, 2018, 11:53:08 AM
I wasn't sure through season one, as it seemed a bit too much like childish fantasy, rather than more serious sci fi.
The 90s was a different time.  The novelty of it and the lack of clear expectations means the tone's all over the place, especially for the first season.

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Things like intentionally running into the vortex and then fearfully yelling and screaming until they shoot out tumbling and groaning and crashing into each other on the other end.
The show did a terrible job of conveying it (probably because the actors would likely have broken a leg) but the portal is a hell of bumpy ride and it basically catapults them out the other side.  Heaven help you if you sprint or jump into it.  I still have no clue why they do that.  Or why they open the portal and then have a wistful and time-consuming goodbye before finally departing.  I'd be super worried about that portal closing on me before I'm through!

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I have mixed reactions to every episode being a new dimension that has to be escaped from before one of the foursome is killed or lost.
Just wait till at least one of the crew is always captured and they're always instigating a revolution.  Or the timer is running out and they have to reunite before time runs out or be stuck there for decades.

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Wouldn't most dimensions be less dangerous than that, at least some?
Some are.  They sometimes refer to them off-hand when they're being chased by an allosaurus or giant ant or something.  "Why couldn't we have stayed at the cheeseburger and milkshake planet, Q?" - Rembrandt.

Imo, this is a tale told by the Sliders to us, so naturally, they skip the boring parts.

But realistically, most dimensions would absolutely be dangerous to the Sliders.  They really lucked out in the show that most Earths are only very slightly diverged from Earth Prime.  If it was truly a random Earth, they'd plop down on barren or inhospitable planets regularly.  And even ones with people and technology like ours would have very different histories and cultures.  It'd be practically impossible to find anyone who speaks English, let alone people who take US currency.  And say hello to Montezuma's revenge.  And whatever plague is endemic there.

Realistically, they wouldn't last a week.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 27, 2018, 12:59:13 PM
I liked the original lead of Sliders .. because I like the actor ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-LImUsiexU
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on July 30, 2018, 12:02:55 AM
Looks like the original Teen Titans show, the good one, is coming back. And the live action show is now officially dead on arrival. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdRgD5ytPCk
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 30, 2018, 12:17:24 AM
And the live action show is now officially dead on arrival. lol
Aww.  :'(  They probably could've saved a couple bucks by running their idea past a focus group or something.  Seems like that would've been the prudent thing to do before hiring people and starting filming.

Writer:  "And then Robin jumps down on a car in that classic superhero landing (hell on the knees, though).  The criminals say 'Where's Batman?' for some reason while shooting at him.  You know the old saying, 'shoot first, ask questions later?'  Well, I went with both.  Then Robin kicks their asses, snaps a guy's neck, then says 'F Batman'"

Focus group:  "Who's he saying that to?  Is he talking to the corpse or is he a crazy guy who talks to himself?  Cause either way..."

Screen Rant is going to have a field day with the Pitch Meeting.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 30, 2018, 06:27:50 AM
Looks like the original Teen Titans show, the good one, is coming back. And the live action show is now officially dead on arrival. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdRgD5ytPCk

Happy 91%

9% sad, I realize I'm never going to get around to finishing my fanfiction...
I never thought this would happen; i tried so hard to fit it into the canon and make it a possible future for the show...
Now: impossible.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9850493/1/The-art-of-trying
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 30, 2018, 07:06:06 AM
Belgianwritersblock?  Sounds Dutch ;-)

My daughter liked to write fan fiction when she was younger.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on July 30, 2018, 01:36:52 PM
Happy 91%

9% sad, I realize I'm never going to get around to finishing my fanfiction...
I never thought this would happen; i tried so hard to fit it into the canon and make it a possible future for the show...
Now: impossible.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9850493/1/The-art-of-trying

You could think of it as an alternate universe sort of thing, like Star Wars' extended universe, Dragon Ball GT, or...comic books in general actually. If you think about this way, the show's return could even free you up to do crazy stuff you know would never be done in canon.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 31, 2018, 11:27:57 PM
Happy 91%

9% sad, I realize I'm never going to get around to finishing my fanfiction...
I never thought this would happen; i tried so hard to fit it into the canon and make it a possible future for the show...
Now: impossible.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9850493/1/The-art-of-trying
Alternate reality.  A period of time between two episodes.  People who read fanfictions just want interesting and entertaining takes on their favorite shows and aren't too terribly worried about how it fits into canon.  They understand that future episodes are going to contradict earlier fanfics.  So no one's going to bust your balls if small details don't sync up or if the timeline gets screwy.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 01, 2018, 12:32:12 AM
Alternate reality.  A period of time between two episodes.  People who read fanfictions just want interesting and entertaining takes on their favorite shows and aren't too terribly worried about how it fits into canon.  They understand that future episodes are going to contradict earlier fanfics.  So no one's going to bust your balls if small details don't sync up or if the timeline gets screwy.

Oh i know. It's purely psychological on my end.
But it's that i prefer to write within The rules set by The canon.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 03:42:28 AM
Looks like the original Teen Titans show, the good one, is coming back. And the live action show is now officially dead on arrival. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdRgD5ytPCk

Anything other than the existing Teen Titans Go! would be good.  I liked the old one OK.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 01, 2018, 03:45:24 AM
You could think of it as an alternate universe sort of thing, like Star Wars' extended universe, Dragon Ball GT, or...comic books in general actually. If you think about this way, the show's return could even free you up to do crazy stuff you know would never be done in canon.

Breaking canon is a serious thing.  It might get new viewers but it really confuses and upsets existing ones.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on August 01, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
But it's that i prefer to write within The rules set by The canon.
I always preferred to explore the nooks and crannies the original creator(s) didn't poke into.  I avoided using canon characters as much as possible and just took advantage of a pre-built world to play in.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on August 06, 2018, 02:44:47 PM
But realistically, most dimensions would absolutely be dangerous to the Sliders.  They really lucked out in the show that most Earths are only very slightly diverged from Earth Prime.  If it was truly a random Earth, they'd plop down on barren or inhospitable planets regularly.  And even ones with people and technology like ours would have very different histories and cultures.  It'd be practically impossible to find anyone who speaks English, let alone people who take US currency.  And say hello to Montezuma's revenge.  And whatever plague is endemic there.

Realistically, they wouldn't last a week.
Other dimensions depicted in Sci Fi usually include the concept of a growing number of dimensions, where altered decisions create a new dimension with cumulative effects.  Why was General Landry in Stargate, now the president in a new dimension instead of the general at SG1?  The cumulative effects of altered decisions and actions led to different paths and outcomes. 

But here is what dawned on me after I started thinking about you comment of two weeks ago.  Most all of the visitations depicted in sci fi seem to be to dimensions where the branching just started in recent history.  There's still a Hammond, Landry, and a Malloy, but none of the dimensions include an Earth where no life formed.  They only seem to visit dimensions where something changed the events within the last 30 years or so.  OK, sliders takes it a bit farther than that sometimes.  Considering the random events that occur in 5 billion years, the actual number of other dimensions would be infinity-plus for lack of another way to describe it.  The chance of landing on a civilized dimension similar to ours would be infinitesimally small.  But you have to make a show that interests people.

On another note, season three of Sliders really takes off for me.  It's still heavier on fantasy than most sci fi, but I am really happy I heard about the series.  I'd like to know how they get home, but I've already decided from reviews that I won't be watching season 4 and 5.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on August 06, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
I'm not sure if Sliders even subscribed to the branching multiverse theory.  All we really knew is that these dimensions are different, they don't necessarily branch off from a common history.
Although in the show, most dimensions did branch off within in the last 50 years or so.  Only a few were totally alien.  Perhaps their journey wasn't completely random.  Maybe they were guided...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on August 06, 2018, 05:48:15 PM
I'm not sure if Sliders even subscribed to the branching multiverse theory.
I recall them discussing multiverse theory in a very early episode.  All I can remember was thinking how much it sounded like SG1.  I'd have to re-watch the episodes to see if branching was mentioned.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on August 06, 2018, 10:18:46 PM
Come to think of it, there is no reason to assume most dimensions of the multiverse would even contain our Earth.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on August 07, 2018, 12:14:35 PM
Patrick Stewart is working on a new Star Trek series with Captain Jean-Luc Picard.

I'm so pumped about this!  Imo, Star Trek has been sliding downhill since DS9, a decline that arguably started during DS9's last season.  Voyager had its moments, but imo never topped TNG/DS9.  Enterprise was wretched, and Discovery...I've already forgotten it existed.

This new series could be that shot in the arm the franchise desperately needs.

And one of the best things about this series is that we'll finally get a show that isn't a prequel!  Admittedly, I'm assuming this.  But how else could you bring a semi-noticeably older Picard back on screen?

I'm also hoping that it serves to pass the torch to a younger character, like in Batman Beyond.  Old man Picard works with a younger apprentice.  The wise old man gets the command choices, while the brash youngster has to handle the action scenes - a perfect melding of the old (strategy, diplomacy, hard choices) and new (pew pew pew, running around like a spaz) styles of Trek.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on August 07, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
The final episode of the final ST series will review that all the episodes were just a spazzed out holodeck malfunction.  I told Commander Data to stop messing with it!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 12, 2018, 07:52:38 AM
Kim Possible on the Disney Channel.  Love it.  Saw the "Graduation" episode twice and cheered both times.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on August 15, 2018, 11:12:57 AM
Refamiliarizing myself with TNG in anticipation of the sequel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Zc8Co2H3w

Patrick Stewart really carried that show.  It was bad in some ways (lol at Marriott, some garbage episodes) but amazing in other ways (Borg, emphasis on diplomacy, bonhomie between the main cast)

I also really liked that one lightning effect.  :)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on August 29, 2018, 06:00:05 PM
I love the new ducktales series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt4IlxFVT-g
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on September 14, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZaBIfJmrgE

I was never much of a dr who fan, I watched a few episodes of it in the 1980s, and watched most of the Christopher Eccleston seasons and about half of the David Tennant seasons, Not watched much of it since then, maybe caught a few episodes here and there, I heard Peter Capaldi was alright, but never watched any of his.

When i first heard about the doctor being a woman, I first thought it was a weird choice, but gave them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they could pull it off if they gave the character the same kind of integrity they did like with Eccleston or Tennant and... NOPE, it became bloody obvious why the BBC went in this direction, so blatant in it the early warning signs were already forming during Capaldi's run of the doctor.

There is showing progressive ideas, and then there is just spreading descent and hating on someone for their gender, like this is doing now. For that reason I'll never watch another dr who episode. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on September 14, 2018, 09:03:24 PM
Coming off the back of this, and aiming this at all forms of media, tv, movies, comics, games, this being a huge pet peeve of mine lately, but why.. just why is there this insistence, that in order to have strong diverse roles in these mediums, strong female leads, strong black roles, strong gay/trans roles, that the only way to do that in some peoples minds is to undermine others in order to do it, make men appear weaker, make white people appear weaker, make straights appear weaker.

This isn't good writing or directing, if you need to disempower one group, in order to make the other feel empowered. This is social justice engineering at best.

You want an example of strong female characters who don't emasculate men? Look at woman woman in the animated justice league TV show or in the comics. Look at shows like buffy the vampire slayer, or Ripley in aliens, or The Bride in kill bill. These are all strong female leads that don't need to resort to pissing on masculinity in order to feel strong themselves. Infact woman woman in the justice league unlimited series was one of my favorite incarnations of the character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPThqQTueM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FltJckwjMco

In a setting like this, you have strong male role models, like superman and batman, and you have wonder woman on the same footing as them showing herself as an actual symbol of how strong a woman is, without needing to emasculate her male teammates. This is how you do an empowering female role model, not the garbage modern day BBC or Marvel comics produces.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 23, 2018, 01:12:52 PM
Sooo... they're rebooting the Avatar The Last Airbender as a live action series.
With the original team of creators involved, so it won't turn out all M. Night Shyamalan-ny.
While I'm sure what they'll wind up producing will be better than that pile of garbage: the question remains, to me.
Why? What's the point?

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it'll turn out swell. But I don't think it'll top the original. And if it don't top it; isn't it just a cash-grab?
It was bad enough when Shyamalan turned it into an inferior product. I don't want the creators to do the same.
I'll still start watching it. Give it a chance. Hope they prove me wrong. But I don't have a lot of hope.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 23, 2018, 01:24:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPThqQTueM
Whoever drew that monk had quite a fun time with it, lol.  I feel like I owe him/her a drink.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on September 23, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
For that reason I'll never watch another dr who episode.
I will wait to see how she performs in the role before I decide whether I think casting Jodie Whittaker was a mistake; that seems to me to be the fairer and more evidence-based way rather than pre-deciding it was a mistake on no reason to do with the actor's actual ability.

I haven't seen her act before; however, I have it on reliable authority that she was really good in Broadchurch, and in any case I have a standing policy of giving a new Doctor two series before I decide whether I like them or not.  The casting motives — real or alleged — are of relevance only if the actor (or actress) is not good in the role.

If they can give it the fun of the original series again — something largely lacking in the new run — I'll be delighted.  That's all that matters to me.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on September 23, 2018, 04:01:18 PM
I will wait to see how she performs in the role before I decide whether I think casting Jodie Whittaker was a mistake; that seems to me to be the fairer and more evidence-based way rather than pre-deciding it was a mistake on no reason to do with the actor's actual ability.

I haven't seen her act before; however, I have it on reliable authority that she was really good in Broadchurch, and in any case I have a standing policy of giving a new Doctor two series before I decide whether I like them or not.  The casting motives — real or alleged — are of relevance only if the actor (or actress) is not good in the role.

If they can give it the fun of the original series again — something largely lacking in the new run — I'll be delighted.  That's all that matters to me.

I'm awaiting for October 7th for the new Doctor.  It could be interesting.  I will have a mind-change regardless.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on September 25, 2018, 05:03:13 AM
I'm literally just discovering how many people believe Daenerys is a villain in Game of Thrones, and just how... passionate... they are about how evil she is.

I just... what? She is no saint, but she is practically Gandhi compared to any other ruler. And don't like her, fine, that's cool, but I mean... people are legit like... furious about it and will go off at you if you dare say she is anything other than the most horrible human to ever exist (lol).

I get being passionate about entertainment, but that is just taking it too far.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 25, 2018, 06:26:36 AM
I'm literally just discovering how many people believe Daenerys is a villain in Game of Thrones, and just how... passionate... they are about how evil she is.

I just... what? She is no saint, but she is practically Gandhi compared to any other ruler. And don't like her, fine, that's cool, but I mean... people are legit like... furious about it and will go off at you if you dare say she is anything other than the most horrible human to ever exist (lol).

I get being passionate about entertainment, but that is just taking it too far.

You know, ... I'm not in the camp that says she is evil. I think GoT already simply offers 'antagonists' for more complex than simply 'evil'. But... I do think it could've worked in the way GRR Martin set up his story. He's constantly turning the perspective on characters, and turning the one he's been building up into the final villain, would've been totally in line with all the other developments we've seen.
And seen from the 'proper' (couldn't find a better, more neutral word) angle, she would be an evil agressor. She's invaded city after city, laying waste to what many felt were their way of living and culture (discussions on how barbaric their abolished practices were aside), she has three monsters of 'children' that she loves that have devoured innocents and will, most likely do so again sometime in the future (unless something stops them), she does not (yet) represent democracy but a despotic rule (just another turn on the wheel she has not yet broken though she says she will, but what are promises from rulers to the common-folk?), she lands on Westeros with a foreign host and hardly any 'local' backing, a girl that wasn't even born in Westeros spilling blood and life through burning and war to claim a throne she feels like she is due for no better reason than any other lordling that aspires to sit it ...

Up so far as the books went, I could have seen the paradigm shift happen
With how the show went, after that, however, not so much anymore.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on September 25, 2018, 07:33:55 AM
I'm awaiting for October 7th for the new Doctor.  It could be interesting.  I will have a mind-change regardless.
The idea of a female Doctor actually goes back nearly 40 years.  I came to the show around 1982, and the reverberations from Tom Baker's retirement announcement wherein he impishly offered his best wishes to his successor "whoever he or she may be" were still bouncing around the fandom.  And in the mid-80s when ratings were flagging and Colin Baker was just not popular, the show's creator Sidney Newman rather more seriously urged the BBC to pick a female Doctor (https://doctorwhowatch.com/2015/06/15/doctor-who-creator-sydney-newman-wanted-a-female-doctor/) to give the show a new lease on life.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 25, 2018, 11:22:09 AM
I'm literally just discovering how many people believe Daenerys is a villain in Game of Thrones, and just how... passionate... they are about how evil she is.
The show version was a lot harsher towards Dany, and yeah, there's a reason they react that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI-nmNcC1Go

Their crime?  Dany thinks they might be behind the Sons of the Harpy killings.  Might be.

Before that, Dany met an envoy from Yunkai who offered her a crate of gold and jewels for her to buy a fleet of ships to leave their territory and go to Westeroes to reclaim her throne.  She declined the offer, kept the gold/jewels, and then threatened the envoy's life.  Suffice it to say that Dark Side points were gained that day.

I'm not sure if even Cersei would do what Dany has done, though Cersei seems to be growing more cartoonishly evil per episode, so I suppose anything's possible.

So yeah, a lot of show fans don't like Dany.  Go figure.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: GSOgymrat on September 25, 2018, 12:03:54 PM
I read the first three books of the Game of Thrones series and gave up. I don't think I have ever given up on a series but after 3000 pages I still wasn't enjoying the story. Because so few of the characters are sympathetic and so many are killed off I stopped investing in their fates. I should have stopped after the first book but I succumb to the sunken cost fallacy. It didn't help that everyone I know insists this is on par with Lord of the Rings. My brother says the TV series is better than the books.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on September 25, 2018, 12:39:46 PM
I read the first three books of the Game of Thrones series and gave up. I don't think I have ever given up on a series but after 3000 pages I still wasn't enjoying the story. Because so few of the characters are sympathetic and so many are killed off I stopped investing in their fates.
I don't blame you.  I wasn't a fan of how the later books kept getting more and more distant from the main characters in Westeroes.  It seemed to lose focus.

I don't hate the worldbuilding, but there's a time and a place for that.  When GRRM announced a book specifically geared towards worldbuilding/lore, I was glad.  Now that seems to be all he does.

Not even the Gods know how far that pushed back Winds of Winter. 

Of course, it's not my place to tell him what he does with his own franchise, but I can't help but point out the obvious - if this franchise hadn't have ballooned out of control, he would have likely wrapped up the main story now and GRRM could pursue any additions at his leisure without having to divide his time between different books.

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My brother says the TV series is better than the books.
There's a certain appeal to the show.  It's much more easily digestible and it gives great visuals.

That said, the show skips over a ton of very interesting characters and their perspectives (Patchface, Victarion, Lady Stoneheart, Jon Connington, etc), there are major deviations from the book narrative that are rightly held in contempt (Dorne, Euron, Stannis, etc), and the latter seasons seem to suffer from poor writing - how much of that is the source material and how much of that is D&D remains to be seen.

Gods, I would have loved to hear the horn Dragonbinder in the show.  That was a magical moment in the books.
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Post by: Blackleaf on September 26, 2018, 12:05:01 PM
I'm literally just discovering how many people believe Daenerys is a villain in Game of Thrones, and just how... passionate... they are about how evil she is.

I just... what? She is no saint, but she is practically Gandhi compared to any other ruler. And don't like her, fine, that's cool, but I mean... people are legit like... furious about it and will go off at you if you dare say she is anything other than the most horrible human to ever exist (lol).

I get being passionate about entertainment, but that is just taking it too far.

The show may be foreshadowing that her family curse may have been passed down to her. She's somewhat reasonable right now, but there are signs she may be turning into her father, the Mad King. If that's the case, John Snow might become conflicted about where his loyalties lie, especially if he learns he carries the same heritage as her and therefore has a claim to the throne. Hell, maybe Daenerys will learn about Snow's heritage first and try to kill him in a preemptive strike.

Also, there is one more thing to keep in mind about the series: The author. George R. R. Martin has said before that he doesn't believe the good and evil dichotomies of most stories are realistic, that most people lie somewhere in the middle. So don't be surprised if one of the characters who starts off a hero turns out to be the villain in the end, or vice versa.
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 29, 2018, 03:39:43 PM
Final Space 7/10

When I saw the teaser for it, I was pumped.  It looked like everything I wanted - a great mix of space action and comedy.

When I saw the first episode, I was very disappointed.  I swear to IPU, this series has amazing artists and animators who wake up every day and work magic.  It also has decent writing.  But whoever does the dialogue - both the writers and voice actors - play in a kiddie pool of their own turds.  I've never seen a bigger discrepancy of talent on a show in my entire life.

The lead makes Jar-Jar Binks look good.  Nothing he says or does is in any way funny.  I honestly hope he dies.

I couldn't watch any more.  Months later, I returned to this series and gave it another chance.  It's actually not bad.  Not amazing, but not bad.  If you can stomach the fecal stench of the first two episodes, I promise that it gets better.

*edit - I strongly recommend watching it muted with subtitles on.  Or I would if the non-dialogue sounds weren't good.  It's kind of a lose-lose situation.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: GSOgymrat on October 23, 2018, 02:05:30 PM
Streaming wars.

https://youtu.be/EWkDZ51yrUg
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on October 24, 2018, 08:20:35 AM
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Or ... it'll incentivize collectivization of streaming content on a single platform ...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on October 24, 2018, 12:38:00 PM
Or ... it'll incentivize collectivization of streaming content on a single platform ...

One stream to rule them all and in the darkness bind them.
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Post by: SGOS on October 24, 2018, 01:52:07 PM
That's the trend in recent innovations of our system.  Instead of increasing profit by expanding market share or outdoing competitors, the new strategy is to find new ways to nickel-dime consumers.  If it works, that's great (Yay capitalism), but more and more I find myself ending my participation in the non-essentials.  If I feel like I'm starting to get fucked, I don't play.  It's amazing how easy it is to do without those things I considered addictions.  But obviously, I'm not setting any trends, and companies still seem to be able to scam enough customers to make their boardrooms happy.  They still send me junk mail.  So I know they want me to play with them, but they won't play by my rules.  So sadly, it's sayonara.  One of my favorite corporate jokes are these new services offered by companies that you can buy for a few dollars a month.  But they aren't new at all, they are just the ordinary costs of providing service that the company had to pay to do business in the first place.

My most recent declaration of corporate retaliation I'm waging on Costco.  I'm no longer paying them $75 dollars a year to shop in their store  That's not even like an extra service.  Granted their inventory is huge, but their selection is worse than the average corner deli.  For example, you want to buy soup?  They have it in warehouse quantities stacked in huge unopened crates 20 feet high.  But you only get two choices.  It's Chicken Noodle or Tomato.  I've done the math, and when all is said and done, I can save about $50 a year after I pay for the membership and the extra gas it takes to make a 200 mile round trip to their store twice a year to stock up and make the trip worthwhile.  I've taken my receipts to my local Walmart and compared prices.  I can save $25 a trip to Costco, but waste an entire day while doing it.  But then I'm not buying for a family. 

In fairness, if you ever buy hearing aides, buy a membership and get them at Costco.  Their service and professional care impressed me, and I saved about $800.  2 1/2 years later, I had a problem with one of them, and they were still totally covered by warranty.  Other things not so much.  I recently, bought a set of Michelin Tires at my local tire dealer for what Costco was selling them, and I don't have to pay him to shop in his store.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on October 24, 2018, 07:52:14 PM
But ... but ... it is unpatriotic not to shop in stores owned by squillionaire X who supports the D party or squillionaire Y who supports the R party.  Fascism means you don't get a choice.  You will be told how much health insurance to buy each month from the political corrupt monopoly ... oh, we already do that!!.  This needs to be extended to all other products.  Gotta keep the GDP high.  Don't have money?  We will give you credit to buy what you can't afford, and the prices we set, and at the interest rate we set.  Remember We Say So Corp from Dinosaurs (tv show)?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 25, 2018, 02:14:57 AM
The Walking Dead:  Season 9, Episode 3 Warning Signs

I just watched an actually pretty good episode of The Walking Dead.  I'm in shock.

Plenty of character moments, some tense/shocking moments, an unexpected death, continuity nods, in-character characters, moral ambiguity, a generally coherent story throughout.  There's even a payoff.  Did they finally switch to unleaded coffee at the writers' room?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on October 28, 2018, 11:40:24 AM
I came across this article today: http://sciencenordic.com/was-rape-common-middle-ages

It's short, but basically it challenges the idea spread by Game of Thrones that rape was common during the "Dark Ages," which the author George R. R. Martin said he based his stories on. In the article, they say that rape was likely not common in the Nordic regions because it was a serious crime back then. They also say that the Catholic church had a vice grip on society at the time, which described sexual assault as a sin.

You've probably already spotted the obvious problems with this logic. First, just because rape was considered an evil act doesn't mean it wasn't common. Second, using the defense that the Catholic church was in power does not help their case. When Catholic priests are infamous for raping the vulnerable, including children, it doesn't really matter whether they say rape is sinful or not, does it?

They say that 1/4 women are victims of sexual assault. If that's true (and admittedly, I haven't checked the data on that), then how much more common was it in an age where women were considered lesser beings than men? Are we supposed to believe that women were treated any better when they came out as victims then than they are now?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on October 28, 2018, 07:01:47 PM
I came across this article today: http://sciencenordic.com/was-rape-common-middle-ages

It's short, but basically it challenges the idea spread by Game of Thrones that rape was common during the "Dark Ages," which the author George R. R. Martin said he based his stories on. In the article, they say that rape was likely not common in the Nordic regions because it was a serious crime back then. They also say that the Catholic church had a vice grip on society at the time, which described sexual assault as a sin.

You've probably already spotted the obvious problems with this logic. First, just because rape was considered an evil act doesn't mean it wasn't common. Second, using the defense that the Catholic church was in power does not help their case. When Catholic priests are infamous for raping the vulnerable, including children, it doesn't really matter whether they say rape is sinful or not, does it?

They say that 1/4 women are victims of sexual assault. If that's true (and admittedly, I haven't checked the data on that), then how much more common was it in an age where women were considered lesser beings than men? Are we supposed to believe that women were treated any better when they came out as victims then than they are now?

Single women are targets in any society.  In traditional culture your father or brothers would protect you, unless you were a fallen woman.  See Romeo & Juliet?  Rape was common in Rome, because any owner of either sex, could have sex at will with slave property of either sex.

So did women, in pagan society have more respect because of goddesses?  Not if you were a slave, and not if you had no male relative to protect you.

What happens in fiction today, reflects present attitudes, not actual anthropology.  That would be a lecture, not a movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyYabeOcKgQ

Yes, my Scandinavian relatives ;-)  Most of my ancestors in any region were peasants or slaves of course ... but not all of them.

Here is one of my gad-about royal ancestors from 1900 years ago ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5aGonRe91I

Here is another, historical, Welsh heroine ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLpgDZk00zg

Gerald of Wales is another relative, we both descend from Nest ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv0NK6xBWm4

A modern view of some of Gerald's stories from his Irish trip ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXGL3E7E7X8
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on October 28, 2018, 10:32:28 PM
I came across this article today: http://sciencenordic.com/was-rape-common-middle-ages

It's short, but basically it challenges the idea spread by Game of Thrones that rape was common during the "Dark Ages," which the author George R. R. Martin said he based his stories on. In the article, they say that rape was likely not common in the Nordic regions because it was a serious crime back then. They also say that the Catholic church had a vice grip on society at the time, which described sexual assault as a sin.

You've probably already spotted the obvious problems with this logic. First, just because rape was considered an evil act doesn't mean it wasn't common. Second, using the defense that the Catholic church was in power does not help their case. When Catholic priests are infamous for raping the vulnerable, including children, it doesn't really matter whether they say rape is sinful or not, does it?

They say that 1/4 women are victims of sexual assault. If that's true (and admittedly, I haven't checked the data on that), then how much more common was it in an age where women were considered lesser beings than men? Are we supposed to believe that women were treated any better when they came out as victims then than they are now?
I'm not super up on the statistics/records, but the general consensus is that real medieval history was pretty violent.  (Though of course that varies quite a lot by the specific place and time)  Maybe not quite as high a body count and frequent as in GoT, but it's up there.  And note rape in Game of Thrones is usually associated with war.  GRRM decided that if he was going to cover war, he had to cover rape because they're so closely connected in real life.

“And then there’s the whole issue of sexual violence, which I’ve been criticized for as well. I’m writing about war, which what almost all epic fantasy is about. But if you’re going to write about war, and you just want to include all the cool battles and heroes killing a lot of orcs and things like that and you don’t portray [sexual violence], then there’s something fundamentally dishonest about that. Rape, unfortunately, is still a part of war today. It’s not a strong testament to the human race, but I don’t think we should pretend it doesn’t exist.

I want to portray struggle. Drama comes out of conflict. If you portray a utopia, then you probably wrote a pretty boring book.” - GRRM
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on October 29, 2018, 12:06:41 AM
I particularly like this part of the article: "He has also been criticized for using sexual assault almost exclusively to develop his male characters. The women are merely victims."

lolwut? Did they completely forget Daenerys Targaryen? Forced into a marriage by her brother in exchange for power, she kills her brother and becomes the legendary "mother of dragons," leading an army of savages and slaves. What about Sansa Stark, who after being forced into two marriages with men she hated, and dragged all across the country by Petyr Baellish, outsmarts "Little Finger," killing him and becoming one of the most influential leaders of the people of the North? Or Brienne of Tarth, the female knight who knew she was as good as any man and has consistently proved her bad ass self countless times? The author of the article seems to think that George R.R. Martin has these sexist portrayals of women, but most of his cool characters are women, and their rape or attempted rape were not defining moments for them. If anything, those moments showed how strong they were, and how much they could take and still keep fighting.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: pr126 on October 29, 2018, 01:23:47 AM
Apu from the Simpsons is tossed into the memory hole, becomes an unperson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsH4hxiv0o
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on October 29, 2018, 04:08:02 AM
Apu from the Simpsons is tossed into the memory hole, becomes an unperson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsH4hxiv0o

I think all TV should be shut down, for stereotyping White males ;-)

As far as sexism goes ... I like strong characters, of either gender.  A man doesn't have to be effeminate (unless he is also a serial killer aka Dressed to Kill).  A woman doesn't have to be masculine (unless it is about steroid cheating in the Olympics).
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Post by: GSOgymrat on October 30, 2018, 11:19:09 AM
In the spirit of Halloween, I'm watching The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. So far it is pretty good. I do like the animated opening credits.

https://youtu.be/vsb8_KiUPqM
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on October 30, 2018, 06:58:26 PM
Looks like a New England stereotype ;-)  The very beginning shows ... it is a dentist's nightmare.  All those bleeding gums!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on November 28, 2018, 07:02:44 PM
Rewatching Star Trek: TNG...

Fuck, I miss the era of television that was almost more a stage play than a movie. The sets all look like something that would have been just as at home on a stage than on television, several of the actors were classically trained actors whom's delivery was very classic and grandiose (and particularly Sir Patrick Stewart's and John de Lancie's performances stand-out in this)...

I don't know, when you compare television today to this era... T.V. today seems far more akin to some multi-million dollar movie production, with admittedly better acting (since you don't have to exaggerate your tone and features for people farther away to hear or see them) and better graphics, and maybe that's okay... but there is something just innately romantic about the classical stage performance that has been part of human history for at least 2500 years, and it's a shame that even within my generation it's something that's been almost completely lost in popular media.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 29, 2018, 10:33:46 AM
I miss that, too.  I don't mind the more movie-like quality of current TV - it's not better or worse, just different, but I do get bouts of nostalgia with TNG and Babylon 5.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on November 29, 2018, 12:20:44 PM
MST3K is back for Season 12!

<insert video of trdsf doing the Happy Happy Joy Joy dance. No, don't look, what has been seen cannot be unseen.>
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: GSOgymrat on December 03, 2018, 04:18:44 PM
I know this is old news for people in Britian but I am enjoying Derren Brown's Netflix specials. Manipulating people into murder or taking a bullet is pretty disturbing.

https://youtu.be/doFpACkiZ2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpUpNv9uNSI
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on December 03, 2018, 07:42:07 PM
MK Ultra is a surprise?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on January 09, 2019, 04:57:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFNbCcyFkk&app=desktop&persist_app=1

Interesting video. I don't watch modern Simpsons, I'd say I fell off the Simpsons wagon around season 15-16, but found myself rewatching older episodes I taped back then. A series you can look at between when it began and how it is today, it's weird, since the characters despite sounding and looking the same, just don't feel the same anymore.

When I first watched the show, I remember originally hating homer, nowhere acted with his family and others. Yet as time went on and I grew up, I began to find him hilarious in context of the show itself. I can still watch those early seasons and like the characters including homer, because those early seasons had charm and relatability.

But I can't do that with Simpsons today, the characters are like parodies of their former selves. Homers become a copy of Peter Griffin, which ironically family guy started out similar to Simpsons but ended up going down an apathetic and amoral route, so you can see how they play off each other now in trying to be the most obnoxious in an effort to keep ratings.

I'll keep rewatching classic Simpsons time to time, but yeah, fuck what this shows turned into.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on January 09, 2019, 07:23:59 PM
Lisa became the evil feminist power behind the couch.  Don't trust anyone who plays saxaphone, like Bill Clinton.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on January 09, 2019, 08:29:24 PM
Lisa became the evil feminist power behind the couch.  Don't trust anyone who plays saxaphone, like Bill Clinton.

And homer became jerkass homer.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/337/716/618.png)

pretty much all the main characters became stereotypes without depth, and the background characters are now cardboard stand ins instead of once interesting characters. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2019, 05:18:45 AM
And homer became jerkass homer.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/337/716/618.png)

pretty much all the main characters became stereotypes without depth, and the background characters are now cardboard stand ins instead of once interesting characters.

Neo-lib propaganda at its best.  You realize, that any show that is popular, is infiltrated by the propaganda arm of the security services, right?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 10, 2019, 03:50:28 PM
So I'm watching an old Game of Thrones season 7 video where the caster goes over alleged season 7 leaks and dismisses most of it as illogical, absurd, fanfic-quality stuff. 

Plot twist: that leak was accurate af, making the video inadvertently hilarious.  *eats popcorn*
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 23, 2019, 05:47:10 PM
watched the first two episodes of 'Titans' on netflix.

I didn't need it to be the 'teen titans' cartoon. I really didn't.

But for now, I was expecting... I dunno... more?

I'll keep watching for now. But I've heard Cyborg ain't in it, or not much. And that Garfield only changes into a tiger... I can get that budgetwise, for the CGI... but still... Seems to me like maybe then you should've gone with Victor over garfield and have garfield be a normal character that ends up getting his powers by the end of the first season. That way you can include him in the second, if it's a hit and you have the budget for it.
But maybe he'll turn out essential for the story of season 1, I dunno. Haven't seen much of him yet.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on January 23, 2019, 07:59:51 PM
watched the first two episodes of 'Titans' on netflix.

I didn't need it to be the 'teen titans' cartoon. I really didn't.

But for now, I was expecting... I dunno... more?

I'll keep watching for now. But I've heard Cyborg ain't in it, or not much. And that Garfield only changes into a tiger... I can get that budgetwise, for the CGI... but still... Seems to me like maybe then you should've gone with Victor over garfield and have garfield be a normal character that ends up getting his powers by the end of the first season. That way you can include him in the second, if it's a hit and you have the budget for it.
But maybe he'll turn out essential for the story of season 1, I dunno. Haven't seen much of him yet.

I expect Cyborg isn't in it because they're trying to create the illusion that it's set in the same universe as the DCU films, even if it isn't technically in the same canon. In the DCU, Cyborg is in the Justice League, so he's already got a team. And they probably don't have it in the budget to bring in Ray Fisher for cameos, especially with that tin foil CGI body he's got.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 24, 2019, 01:07:34 AM
I expect Cyborg isn't in it because they're trying to create the illusion that it's set in the same universe as the DCU films, even if it isn't technically in the same canon. In the DCU, Cyborg is in the Justice League, so he's already got a team. And they probably don't have it in the budget to bring in Ray Fisher for cameos, especially with that tin foil CGI body he's got.

I c... Kind of like how THE defenders don't go against THE mcu.

Well, it don't improve THE show.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 24, 2019, 12:38:24 PM
*slaps roof of The Vikings*
This bad boy can hold so many almost dead characters in it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on January 24, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
I expect Cyborg isn't in it because they're trying to create the illusion that it's set in the same universe as the DCU films, even if it isn't technically in the same canon. In the DCU, Cyborg is in the Justice League, so he's already got a team. And they probably don't have it in the budget to bring in Ray Fisher for cameos, especially with that tin foil CGI body he's got.
Also, I seem to recall that Cyborg will be on the upcoming Doom Patrol ... which doesn't make a lot of sense because that team already has Robotman.  Well, we'll see what they do with it. Looks like it's going to be the Morrison DP rather than the original team, so I may have finally found a supers show I'll watch.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Draconic Aiur on January 31, 2019, 11:12:43 AM
Riverdale is looking good, but it has that twilight zing (fuck) and that Joesy and the Pussycats are not diverse. Needs more Jughead.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 31, 2019, 11:32:39 PM
Vikings s5e20 Ragnarok

I'm going to be as brief as possible and not spoil anything important, but I just have to get this off my chest.

This is by far the worst episode of the entire series.  Maybe the worst medieval TV episode ever.  I'm talking Razzie-tier stuff.

For starters, this is the most poorly conceived siege battle I've ever seen in my life.  The siegers' gameplan is twofold:  1) run at the wall with your bollocks blowing in the breeze 2) bring a battering ram completely unsupported and unprotected (dafuq?!), then eventually bring shields to protect the ram

Also, lie in wait within spitting distance of the gates while remaining stealthy, then light a F*&$KING FLAMING ARROW while still staying stealthy (??!!), then run at the wall while screaming like a complete moron and ruining the element of surprise.

And oh my god, the characters.  I won't spoil anything, but there's scenery chewing galore.  The characters in that 300 movie were more dynamic and compelling.  Simply put: brave characters aren't, scheming characters aren't, intelligent characters aren't.  Several secondary characters with hours of screentime don't have any payoffs at all. 

There's simply no satisfaction or resolution to be had.  Life is pain and unhappiness and then you die.

There's also an intentionally vague ending that's supposed to be deep but actually comes across as obfuscation for obfuscation's sake.

I honestly thought that this show would become something great, that there'd be some sort of amazing payoff.  And while it has had its moments of greatness, it has been subtly declining for quite some time now.

Now I pray to Odin that this show gets cancelled soon.  This show would be grateful for the manner of it and welcome the valkyries to carry it home.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on February 01, 2019, 07:43:57 PM
Ever see The Warlord (1965)?  Has Charleton Heston and Richard Boone, and pretty good Viking (Frisian) vs Norman action.

Good siege action.  Mr Obvious should know, it is his country ... Flemings vs Walloons.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on February 02, 2019, 09:32:49 AM
Been watching Perry Mason a lot lately. Good show, although some episodes have definitely aged better than others.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on February 02, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Been watching Perry Mason a lot lately. Good show, although some episodes have definitely aged better than others.

All you need is a good investigator, a smart secretary and the willingness to see the truth for what it is.  That and make the District Attorney look bad.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on February 03, 2019, 08:12:49 AM
Been loving the replays of Samurai Jack!  They are being shown in order on Cartoon Network at 8 pm est.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 03, 2019, 01:36:52 PM
Samurai Jack is legend. I really liked the older seasons.
And I really loved 95% of the last season.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on February 04, 2019, 01:11:34 AM
Samurai Jack is legend. I really liked the older seasons.
And I really loved 95% of the last season.

That ending, though...

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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 04, 2019, 03:49:20 AM
That ending, though...

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That's why I said 95% :p

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Post by: Munch on February 04, 2019, 06:58:26 PM
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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on February 04, 2019, 09:26:25 PM
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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on March 01, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
Samurai Jack is legend. I really liked the older seasons.
And I really loved 95% of the last season.

What part did you not like about the last?  I only ask because I loved it all.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 01, 2019, 05:05:03 PM
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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on March 01, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
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I think they were offerred limited time for the ending.  But at least they gave an ending.  I'll give 4 of 5 just for that. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 01, 2019, 07:15:59 PM
I think they were offerred limited time for the ending.  But at least they gave an ending.  I'll give 4 of 5 just for that.

Actually; if I remember correctly when they approached him they asked the creator; how many episodes do you need to wrap up a final season?
And he came back with 10 real quick. He could have gotten more if he felt he could use it or if he wanted too.

He agrees it felt rushed, but it was the ending he always envisioned and was ultimately happy with:
https://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/10/12/16459622/samurai-jack-season-5-finale-genndy-tartakovsky

I would have gone with a different one. But I agree: I'm glad it got wrapped up and that the story was given a finish. And I still look fondly at this show. It is truly amazing.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on March 04, 2019, 06:10:00 AM
Actually; if I remember correctly when they approached him they asked the creator; how many episodes do you need to wrap up a final season?
And he came back with 10 real quick. He could have gotten more if he felt he could use it or if he wanted too.

He agrees it felt rushed, but it was the ending he always envisioned and was ultimately happy with:
https://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/10/12/16459622/samurai-jack-season-5-finale-genndy-tartakovsky

I would have gone with a different one. But I agree: I'm glad it got wrapped up and that the story was given a finish. And I still look fondly at this show. It is truly amazing.

THAT is interesting.  I get little info from the inside.  And I've noticed there are many episodes I never saw originally.  Tonight I watched XXXVI (?) where the origin of Aku (as a shard of a godly battle against evil in the far past) was explained.  I sure never saw THAT one before.

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Post by: Hydra009 on March 04, 2019, 12:34:42 PM
The Orville pitch meeting

Writer:  Our show is going to be like TNG but better.
Producer:  How?
Writer:  You know how TNG skirted around LGBT issues?  Well, ours are going to be front and center.  We're also going to have lots of gay characters.
Producer:  Very progressive.
Writer:  And you're going to hate them for being sexist.
Producer:  *shock and confusion*  Is that progressive?
Writer:  *shrugs*  I don't even know anymore.

Writer:  You know how TNG had Best of Both Worlds, where the Borg really put the hurt on the Federation?
Producer:  Yeah, the fans really loved that two-parter.
Writer:  Well, we're going to do that but better.  It's going to be super duper dark, too.
Producer:  Oh my god.  And The Orville is a comedy, right?
Writer:  Sometimes it is.  Other times, it'll keep you up at night because you can't sleep because your alarm clock looks like two red eyes staring at you.
Producer:  I'm pretty sure that's just you.
Writer:  I haven't slept since 2006 and I write all the episodes while watching TNG while high out of my mind.
Producer:  Well, I'm sold.
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Post by: Cavebear on March 07, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
The Orville pitch meeting

Writer:  Our show is going to be like TNG but better.
Producer:  How?
Writer:  You know how TNG skirted around LGBT issues?  Well, ours are going to be front and center.  We're also going to have lots of gay characters.
Producer:  Very progressive.
Writer:  And you're going to hate them for being sexist.
Producer:  *shock and confusion*  Is that progressive?
Writer:  *shrugs*  I don't even know anymore.

Writer:  You know how TNG had Best of Both Worlds, where the Borg really put the hurt on the Federation?
Producer:  Yeah, the fans really loved that two-parter.
Writer:  Well, we're going to do that but better.  It's going to be super duper dark, too.
Producer:  Oh my god.  And The Orville is a comedy, right?
Writer:  Sometimes it is.  Other times, it'll keep you up at night because you can't sleep because your alarm clock looks like two red eyes staring at you.
Producer:  I'm pretty sure that's just you.
Writer:  I haven't slept since 2006 and I write all the episodes while watching TNG while high out of my mind.
Producer:  Well, I'm sold.

Actually, I would support anyone who could write stage directions for Patrick Stewart (stare angrily left, pull down shirt, and no one collapse in giggles AND I MEAN YOU MCFADDEN) while high...
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Post by: drunkenshoe on March 13, 2019, 03:29:04 AM
I have just seen a couple of episodes from Norsemen. Norwegian made, Netflix.

Descendants of Vikings making fun of Vikings and Viking culture in a low budget, absurd comedy, sitcom style. It's simple, hillarious.
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Post by: Unbeliever on March 13, 2019, 01:35:39 PM
Good Lord! I just went to youtube to check it out, and it's hilarious indeed!

The guy in the trailer I'm watching is trying to give his dead brother a good old Viking send off, putting him on a raft filled with wood, pushing it out into the water and shooting fire-arrows at it to burn it up. But he can't hit the damned thing! Everyone's standing around looking embarrassed by this idiot trying again and again to hit the raft, but his arrows keep falling short! Finally the thing is too far to even shoot at, so he makes some lame excuse and walk off.

I think I'll check out some more of that if it keeps being that funny.

Heck I might as well post it:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hk_rdfSCS0&list=PLilUWkNfXo_jIhLUFV6fEF61gTi4yFr1z

Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on March 13, 2019, 07:50:17 PM
How come Norwegians are speaking English?  Culture appropriation!!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on March 13, 2019, 08:26:20 PM
They did the episodes in Norwegian first, then made the same episodes in English.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2019, 03:17:42 AM
They did the episodes in Norwegian first, then made the same episodes in English.

If they are bi-national, are they also bi-sexual? ;-)
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Post by: mosstoss on March 15, 2019, 02:35:35 AM
I just finished watching the first season of Kidding, and I really liked it. Carrey may be too eccentric for some, but I've always found him subversive and profound. Kidding is no exception. It's a tense, heavy show. Looking forward to the second season.

Also just started watching the third season of True Detective. I really liked the first two seasons, and I'm curious how the third one might pan out.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on March 15, 2019, 10:46:17 AM
Alias Grace. It's good.

---Spoilers ahead----

Apperantly, it's a real story. I dunno how to describe it. Good lines and conversations. (Made from Margaret Atwood's novel based on the events.) In a nutshell, an abused young women is convicted of killing two people, also aiding and abetting. And then there is this young, naive yankee psychiatrist literally losing his mind over her, because he can't decide if she is guilty or innocent. What is it in the end? That men are turned on by homicidal young women? We live in a far too different era to get into that catharsis I guess. Or it's me.     

Bad jokes aside, if you ask me after all the traumas she lives through, at some point after losing the only person actually treated her good and helped her dies in a bad way, she produces a split personality and that personality kills. That's why they imply. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on March 15, 2019, 07:39:59 PM
Ayn Rand, in her youth (1920s) was turned on by a prisoner who was in jail for murder.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on March 17, 2019, 05:13:05 AM
Good Lord! I just went to youtube to check it out, and it's hilarious indeed!

The guy in the trailer I'm watching is trying to give his dead brother a good old Viking send off, putting him on a raft filled with wood, pushing it out into the water and shooting fire-arrows at it to burn it up. But he can't hit the damned thing! Everyone's standing around looking embarrassed by this idiot trying again and again to hit the raft, but his arrows keep falling short! Finally the thing is too far to even shoot at, so he makes some lame excuse and walk off.

I think I'll check out some more of that if it keeps being that funny.

Heck I might as well post it:

Missing the boat with fire arrows sounds rather realistic...  I bet it happened often enough to make the idea mostly symbolic.  LOL!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on March 20, 2019, 04:17:07 AM
Love, Death and Robots. - Netflix 

Super! Don't miss it. 

It's a series of around 10 min, various style, independent animated stories. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on March 20, 2019, 01:41:01 PM
Wow, indeed! I was just checking it out at youtube, and it's definitely a "don't miss" kind of thing. More visual stimulation than a jab in the eye with a sharp stick!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 20, 2019, 06:10:27 PM
https://youtu.be/NUVMw0FSmyw

the hype is real
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on March 23, 2019, 11:30:57 AM
Wow, indeed! I was just checking it out at youtube, and it's definitely a "don't miss" kind of thing. More visual stimulation than a jab in the eye with a sharp stick!

It's very good, isn't it? I loved all of the stories. I can watch that kind of series forever. They should make thousands of them,lol.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 23, 2019, 09:00:10 PM
Watching THE umbrella academy. It's pretty solid so far.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 25, 2019, 06:05:56 PM
Just finished ep 6.
it's hypnotically good
Kudo's on the acting. On the dialogue. On the story. (Finally a timetravel story which, so far, doesn't irritate me. Even if it makes little sense.) And on the epic soundtrack.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on March 25, 2019, 08:16:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb8wQNAftYc


This looks intriguing! Lot's of fun, too.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on March 27, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
The Walking Dead 9x15 The Calm Before

There are three flashbulb scenes from the comics that I wanted to see on TV - scenes so pivotal and heart-wrenching that they make or break whole story arcs.  We already got the prison raid and Negan's introduction, next is the infamous pike scene.  It's basically The Walking Dead's equivalent of The Red Wedding.

And man oh man, was it every bit as chilling as I expected.  They changed up who exactly dies, and I kinda wish they had stuck more closely to the comics there and killed off *certain* people we're more attached to, but it was still pretty good.

The show really nailed Alpha and made her a much more menacing and intimidating villain than she ever was in the comics.  Same with Beta.  I'm very happy with how they've handled them so far.

It's funny, just as a lot of The Walking Dead's cast has walked away and the TV show seems to be dying (4 million live viewers), the show itself has actually been pretty good.  The staff has said that because they don't know how long the show's going to last, they're throwing everything they've got into the episodes and not holding any stuff back (dragging plotlines out).  About damn time.  If they had done that a few seasons ago, the show might not be dying right now.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 28, 2019, 03:17:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb8wQNAftYc


This looks intriguing! Lot's of fun, too.

She be a recommendation, that she be, aye.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 28, 2019, 07:33:59 PM
You know...

They are remotely not the same show... But I watched the umbrella academy and now I've finally gotten around to watching the third or fourth episode of Titans.

Still, watching Titans, a show about a dysfunctional team of superheroes, I can't help but compare it to TUA. Maybe because, despite it's many more serious themes and different sense of humor, TUA has a levity that Titans misses. Especially when you compare Titans to Teen Titans the cartoon.

And in and by itself... Titans isn't bad. Not per se. I like the basic story so far. It's not very creative yet, but it works. I like the acting well enough. It's not ground-breaking, but it suffices.  I like the soundtrack somewhat, despite it not being memorable. The fighting is okay. The camerawork smooth enough to not be noticed...
But that's kind of the thing; in and by itself it's worth watching, but it never exceeds what is acceptable. It never rises up into awesomeness. It is bland in it's 6.5 out of 10. And yet it feels like less because there are so many better things you automatically compare it to.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 01, 2019, 11:40:39 PM
I actually really liked the latest Walking Dead because in this one we finally come to grips with the everyday hardships of living in the post-apocalypse - it's not the zombies that kill ya, it's the cold and starvation and disease and despair.  Really depressing, but true.

Humans are extremely reliant on technology to keep us warm at night.  Without that, it's rough going.  Sure, you'd be okay for a while - you can bundle up and hunker down somewhere, but when the roof starts leaking and rats tear holes in the walls and mildew starts setting in, that's no beuno.  Add to that whispering zombies, and it's pretty much gg.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 02, 2019, 02:22:55 AM
But what if the zombies are Grateful Dead fans? (sarc).
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on April 02, 2019, 03:33:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb8wQNAftYc


This looks intriguing! Lot's of fun, too.
It's OK I guess. I've seen 7 episodes. Somewhat averagely paced on the developing story.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 02, 2019, 06:37:17 AM
It's OK I guess. I've seen 7 episodes. Somewhat averagely paced on the developing story.

Huh, I really enjoyed it a lot. A lot of the humor worked for me, and I got invested in the characters.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 13, 2019, 12:40:34 PM
Recently got into Indian "real crime" drama.  Very well done cop show, dramatized real cases.  Fear and hope.  Real serious crimes, like murder, rape etc.  Everything is happening in modern India.  And the cops always get their suspects.  The failings of human beings are the same everywhere, the propaganda of Cops Lives Matter is everywhere.

eg: Crime Patrol Dastak - Ep 972 ... is one of many that have English subtitles for the Hindi spoken.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 16, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
Russian Doll.

Super. I loved it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X3HKEC68EM


Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 17, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Titans

Really? I mean: really?!

After your first season in which you almost masterfully balance on the thin line between watchable and good enough to at least invest in the characters, you decide to leave it on a cliffhanger? You haven't earned a goddamned season cliffhanger!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 08:15:29 PM
Russian Doll.

That cunt will grow on you, I promise.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 09:25:58 PM
Russian Doll.

That cunt will grow on you, I promise.

The preview I just saw ... great exercise in paranoia.  Doesn't she know the most dangerous place in the house is the bathroom?  Why multiple deaths on the stairway?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 10:09:07 PM
Fuck you.

They made her say: "...Kind of the black hole meets They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?...”

Now explain this to the kids here. Without the obvious.


Millennials are the actual 'horses' you know, right?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on April 18, 2019, 12:32:50 AM
I think it's time for me to finally watch Firefly. Also started Cowboy Bebop for the first time a week ago...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 18, 2019, 01:01:24 AM
Fuck you.

They made her say: "...Kind of the black hole meets They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?...”

Now explain this to the kids here. Without the obvious.


Millennials are the actual 'horses' you know, right?

You criticize my black praise of the movie, or my observation that the pratfalls on the stair are a bit repetitive and therefore a bit droll?

They Shoot Horses Don't They ... that is a 1969 movie about 1930s abusive competitions.  Don't see your point.

Or is the movie in question a commentary on Eternal Return by Nietzsche?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on April 18, 2019, 01:26:38 AM
I think it's time for me to finally watch Firefly. Also started Cowboy Bebop for the first time a week ago...

Careful. Somebody royally fucked up when it came to the order the episodes were aired. They're all jumbled up. Also, the show got cancelled, most likely do to the previously mentioned fuckup. But there is a movie that ties up loose ends and essentially gives us the ending the writers had in mind, albeit with significantly less buildup.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on April 18, 2019, 06:51:10 AM
I think it's time for me to finally watch Firefly. Also started Cowboy Bebop for the first time a week ago...

I LOVED COWBOY BEBOP!  Where are you watching it from the start?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 19, 2019, 12:09:37 PM
You criticize my black praise of the movie, or my observation that the pratfalls on the stair are a bit repetitive and therefore a bit droll?

They Shoot Horses Don't They ... that is a 1969 movie about 1930s abusive competitions.  Don't see your point.

Or is the movie in question a commentary on Eternal Return by Nietzsche?

Because it's none of it. That line sums up the situation she is in perfectly. It's a good show. Also, I love They Shoot Horses Don't They very much. And that was a drunk post, want me to delete?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 19, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
GLOW

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 19, 2019, 12:51:54 PM
Turkish wrestling ... big guys all oiled up with olive oil ... very ancient.  So you should be culturally attuned to real wrestling.  A Turkish wrestler who faked a bout, would he have to shave off his proud mustache? (rhetorical question).
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 19, 2019, 01:06:53 PM
Turkish wrestling ... big guys all oiled up with olive oil ... very ancient.  So you should be culturally attuned to real wrestling.  A Turkish wrestler who faked a bout, would he have to shave off his proud mustache? (rhetorical question).

I haven't really watched honestly. Like they have always been there forever. About faking, I have no idea, but I don't think he wold survive during the match though,lol. They are called pehlivan(s).

But that Glow show is good. I am watching the second season.

E: Also, Zoya Destroya is your kind of woman, Baruch! :p LOOOL
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 19, 2019, 03:19:53 PM
Yeah, I like Russian women.  I like most women (for their visual appeal).  But that is superficial.  Personalty and character matter more.  See I am not a misogynist.  I just won't excuse bad behavior by anyone.  So under current conditions I can't support feminism (which I would normally do) because it is a hyper-partisan echo chamber.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 19, 2019, 03:51:26 PM
Zoya Destroya is a fake wrestling character of a character in a comedy show. She is not a Russian woman. It's Americans making fun of American culture. It's funny. Yes, I don't think most people in the forum would like it, but it is good. It's about people. Also, I am sure feminists can do without your support, sweety. Don't worry. Relax. Personally, I stopped caring who supports what some time ago. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on April 19, 2019, 04:35:30 PM
Zoya Destroya is a fake wrestling character of a character in a comedy show. She is not a Russian woman. It's Americans making fun of American culture. It's funny. Yes, I don't think most people in the forum would like it, but it is good. It's about people. Also, I am sure feminists can do without your support, sweety. Don't worry. Relax. Personally, I stopped caring who supports what some time ago.

I know that.  The older American culture was a movie about roller derby (Whip It), and prior to that, the real thing (started in 1935).  I remember the real thing.  And there are still some teams still playing.  Of course this was mocked with male athletes in the scifi Rollerball (1975), redone in 2002 (coed version).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUxK1mNups

Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on April 20, 2019, 04:06:09 AM
I LOVED COWBOY BEBOP!  Where are you watching it from the start?

Hulu!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on April 20, 2019, 05:04:05 AM
I know that.  The older American culture was a movie about roller derby (Whip It), and prior to that, the real thing (started in 1935).  I remember the real thing.  And there are still some teams still playing.  Of course this was mocked with male athletes in the scifi Rollerball (1975), redone in 2002 (coed version).

Really? That is the movie you connected to 'Whip it'?

Do you understand the story movies like Whip it are telling? It's about team spirit, competiton, rivalry. It's about kids working their ass for something; learning their limits; competition; learning to lose, betrayal, friendship, rivalry... and winning. Struggle. Winning doesn't mean shit without that process. It's basically necessary skills for life to survive. Of course you don't need physical activity to learn these, but it is the simplest form. Also the simplest way to put in a movie to tell a story. It's action, emotion... Catharsis. Controlled physical struggle is the best way to tell this. 

Why did they start to make these movies with girls, young women? Because if you are living on this planet, you should know that traditionally they are the least encouraged group for a struggle of the sort. We learn most of the things playing games as kids. Boys are always more likely to be encouraged to learn competition; their limits; learning to lose, betrayal, friendship, rivalry... and winning. Struggle.   

Life experience tells me that any kid that have gone through some sort of struggle, hardship and team work is always far more likely to be a contributing, healthy individual. Because they develop self-respect, integrity at a young age. It's very simple. Monkey see, monkey do. We need to introduce stories to children that they can relate and see themselves in. That's how human works. It's pretty much like Bards and Ollaves have done in ancient times.   

And you connect a story like that to what exactly? 

And this doesn't have an age limit either. That's why GLOW is a good show. The creators of the show make those characters do the silliest, stupid things and through that they are underlying something very important about human nature. Fuck politics, fuck -isms. Everything is about being part of something, making yourself real doesn't matter, what is it that you are doing. And this is not something we can do by ourselves. We need other humans to accomplish this. It's the same about the male characters. It's just they are more women than men.

   
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 18, 2019, 06:56:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib_Y72V7-bc

Wow this show looks like garbage.

Batman: I am vengeance, I am the night, I am batman

Batwoman: I'm a WAMAN

Also, "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work" she says as she takes the identity, suit and headquarters of a man.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on May 18, 2019, 12:42:46 PM
Sorry, any woman, in a cat suit, even if not Catwoman is ... meow!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on May 18, 2019, 01:16:08 PM
So, they put the "her" in "hero"? You couldn't pay me to watch that. Well, maybe if you paid me enough...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 18, 2019, 01:39:12 PM
nah, I'd sooner go broke, unless it was an insane amount, and even then i'd do something like donate it to a men's sexual health organisation out of karma.

remember when movies like alien had trailers telling us how ripley was a super amazing because she was waman? Or how Rooney Mara in girl with the dragon tattoo was 'what the world needs!', or how wonder woman 'didn't need no man to be strong'? No? neither do I.
you can't make this shit up..
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on May 18, 2019, 02:23:42 PM
Proof that feminism isn't progressing, it is digressing.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on May 18, 2019, 03:23:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib_Y72V7-bc

Wow this show looks like garbage.

Batman: I am vengeance, I am the night, I am batman

Batwoman: I'm a WAMAN

Also, "I'm not about to let a man take credit for a woman's work" she says as she takes the identity, suit and headquarters of a man.

OMG. I hate when they try to mix feminism with comic books. It's never going to accurately portray the real issues, which makes the message pointless, and it's going to alienate many of the fans. I see this as nothing more than a marketing ploy from executives who don't give a shit about the real issues. We've got serious issues that need to be addressed in America, such as new legislation in multiple states effectively equating abortions with murder, threatening to put women and doctors behind bars for life. Meanwhile, CW is giving us this diet Batman in spandex saying, "I'm not letting a man take credit for my hard work." Fucking hell.

EDIT: I like how they have this woman find all of Batman's gear, takes it and uses it herself, and complains that Batman is getting the credit. Seriously?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on May 18, 2019, 04:11:02 PM

EDIT: I like how they have this woman find all of Batman's gear, takes it and uses it herself, and complains that Batman is getting the credit. Seriously?

Really, this just comes down to awful writing. Think about how they wrote miles morales Spiderman, that was well written, and in the movie adaptation it played to the alternative reality notion of the character. He wasn't trying to take the place of Peter Parker Spiderman, he was being his own person with the Spiderman title (also it didn't make something out like 'I'm black Spiderman, that's my character trait!')

If there going to make a story of someone else taking on the mantle of a famous character, the key point any writer should do is at least make the character likeable, give them a personality.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 20, 2019, 12:58:47 PM
New season of Westworld (I dunno why it's even called that anymore, but whatevs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deSUQ7mZfWk

I dunno how I feel about focusing so heavily on the wider world and humans.  On one hand, I love all the 200-years in the future technology, but on the other hand, it kinda loses its punch when it's everywhere.  In Westworld, the juxtaposition of cowboy technology and futuristic technology was breathtaking.  Without that juxtaposition, it just seems like pretty generic sci-fi.

Also, I don't know who this guy is and I desperate hope his story is extremely compelling, otherwise this season is going to tank hard.  The first (and somewhat the second) seasons set a very high standard for characters, storytelling, and acting.  If it's just going to be Fight Club in the future, I'm out.  Then again, if you told me an Indian wandering around an arid landscape would be the best episode of the series, I would have thought you were crazy.  So maybe I'm judging too hastily.

I'm torn about this trailer.  I want to be positive about this, but there's a lot here that could go wrong.  Guess I'll have to watch to find out.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on May 20, 2019, 01:11:32 PM
Yes, you'll have to collapse the wave function.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 20, 2019, 02:06:06 PM
Yes, you'll have to collapse the wave function.
If there's a really good twist, it could totally win me over.  And Westworld has had some great twists - almost too many.  At this stage, the twist could be not having a twist.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on May 22, 2019, 04:58:16 AM
Yeah, I like Russian women.  I like most women (for their visual appeal).  But that is superficial.  Personalty and character matter more.  See I am not a misogynist.  I just won't excuse bad behavior by anyone.  So under current conditions I can't support feminism (which I would normally do) because it is a hyper-partisan echo chamber.

I assume you said "See I am not a misogynist" self-jokingly because most of what you say supports that you are...  All your after-statements indicate such.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on May 22, 2019, 07:25:18 AM
I assume you said "See I am not a misogynist" self-jokingly because most of what you say supports that you are...  All your after-statements indicate such.

Only in your liberal imagination.  Women are terrible, but because they are human, not because they are women.  That is misanthropic.  Get it right!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on May 22, 2019, 01:38:37 PM
If there's a really good twist, it could totally win me over.  And Westworld has had some great twists - almost too many.  At this stage, the twist could be not having a twist.
Yeah, that would be a positive negative!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on May 27, 2019, 03:14:26 PM
(https://i.redd.it/hyr2caphms031.jpg)

I could actually really go for this right now.  I need a good semi-historical/fantasy series right now.

Plus, I could probably learn Korean before Winds of Winter comes out.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on May 31, 2019, 11:55:45 AM
Only in your liberal imagination.  Women are terrible, but because they are human, not because they are women.  That is misanthropic.  Get it right!

Well if you want to debate about whether you are "misanthropic" rather than "misogynistic", that is up to you.  Personally,  I don't like either.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on May 31, 2019, 10:13:04 PM
Well if you want to debate about whether you are "misanthropic" rather than "misogynistic", that is up to you.  Personally,  I don't like either.

Misogynist
Misandrist
Misanthrope …

They are the exceptions that prove the rule … no good people.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Draconic Aiur on June 01, 2019, 04:05:35 AM
Watched Good Omens the TV show rated it 10/10
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on June 01, 2019, 01:36:59 PM
Misogynist
Misandrist
Misanthrope …

They are the exceptions that prove the rule … no good people.

Exceptions don't prove rules - they disprove them.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 01, 2019, 06:56:24 PM
Exceptions don't prove rules - they disprove them.

Only if you are a peasant.  The king is an exception, and he rules ;-)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on June 01, 2019, 07:12:01 PM
Does the inch prove the ruler?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on June 01, 2019, 07:40:08 PM
Watched 6 episodes of DC's Doom Patrol on HBO.

Too much 4th wall-breaking for my taste, but watchable.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 01, 2019, 10:06:47 PM
Does the inch prove the ruler?

Only if you are a worm ;-)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on June 05, 2019, 06:45:36 PM
Started watching the dragon prince on recommendation.
Ep 1 was definitely good enough to warrant continuation.
Frame rate was weird, but might've been my connection.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on June 06, 2019, 06:11:42 AM
Misogynist
Misandrist
Misanthrope …

They are the exceptions that prove the rule … no good people.

Had to look up "Misandrist".  And saw I SHOULD have recognized the meaning.  "andri".  Should have just sat down and thought about it first before looking it up.  Oh well...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 06, 2019, 07:18:44 AM
Misandrist ... what a feminist says doesn't exist.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on June 06, 2019, 07:19:55 AM
Watched a Black Mirror episode with Miley Cyrus in it. I was disappointed.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on June 16, 2019, 08:48:41 PM
Watched the 6 episodes of Dimension 404. It was canceled.

All 6 episodes were they pretty much poked fun at the Internet age mish-mashed together with Outer Limitseque/Twilight Zone vibe.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on June 22, 2019, 06:01:21 PM
Just finished love, death + robots

It was swell. It really was.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on June 25, 2019, 12:11:41 AM
Season 2 of Final Space starts very soon.

And I've gotta say, I was very impressed with the first season overall.  The show's voice acting makes me want to claw my ears off, most of the jokes didn't land, but the overall plot and character structure is damn good and it helps that the animation looks good.

How do I describe it?  Imagine a kiddie pool.  You walk into it and it barely even covers the tops of your feet.  Then you walk a little farther and suddenly, it's 10 feet deep.  Not the deepest pool ever, but it's pretty damn deep.  It is, without a doubt, much deeper than you expected.  And down at the very bottom of the pool is a school of bio-luminescent fish calling your name.  They lead you further down than the bottom.  You vision starts to blur and your heart pounds in your chest.  You look up and you see a ray of light shine down upon you through the water.  You swim up and up and up for what seems like hours until you finally breach the waves.  You look around.  Ocean as far as the eye can see.  You wake up.  You jump out of bed, kicking off live fish flopping under the covers.  Your alarm clock introduces himself as Hue in a measured tone.  The cookies are almost ready...

That's Final Space.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on June 25, 2019, 11:13:04 AM
Legion 3rd season has begun!


EDIT: It's just as deliciously weird as the 2nd season.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2019, 07:19:55 PM
Watched Good Omens the TV show rated it 10/10

Got to watch it too, devilishly funny.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 05, 2019, 12:59:42 AM
Hope you all had a good independence day.

For us it was a deliverance: gonna watch stranger things s3 tonight!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Minimalist on July 05, 2019, 01:53:32 AM
I've been binge-watching The Orville, Season 1.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 06, 2019, 07:01:35 AM
We finished half of season 3 of stranger things. Liking what I'm seeing so far. I bet we're going to finish this season before the weekend is through.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 06, 2019, 12:58:33 PM
On HBO they recently aired the first episode of Loudest Voice, a story about Roger Ailes of Fox News.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 08, 2019, 05:51:19 PM
2nd episode of The Loudest Voice was about 2001, leading up to the 9/11 and the beginning to the war in Iraq.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 09, 2019, 01:45:50 AM
2nd episode of The Loudest Voice was about 2001, leading up to the 9/11 and the beginning to the war in Iraq.

Probably ugly truths.  I remember 2001, and how the George W admin exploited it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 09, 2019, 04:25:47 AM
Stranger things S3 was amazing. Few minor plot holes, but amazing.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 09, 2019, 11:02:23 AM
Probably ugly truths.  I remember 2001, and how the George W admin exploited it.
Well, no spoilers here, but the episode didn't paint a pretty picture.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on July 09, 2019, 03:59:43 PM
Well, no spoilers here, but the episode didn't paint a pretty picture.

Before or after Dick Cheney shot that guy in the face?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 10, 2019, 01:19:25 PM
That wasn't in the episode.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 10, 2019, 02:17:30 PM
Dark is shaping up well.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 16, 2019, 07:38:38 PM
3rd episode of The Loudest Voice is about the 2008 election displayed a quite grim duplicitous nature of Roger Ailes. There is a telling scene where Roger tells about a story about his own father to his son, that you can't trust anyone, but in the ending of the episode you see Roger talk to a crowd about the usual bullshit narrative about immigrants taking our jobs and that "we have to stand together" and all that.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 17, 2019, 01:11:30 AM
Dark season 1 turned out very well. Wil watch s2.
Recommend it to anyone with Netflix.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on July 17, 2019, 01:14:07 AM
Dark season 1 turned out very well. Wil watch s2.
Recommend it to anyone with Netflix.

Just started it a night ago, on episode 5 now. I just want to know more, but work and a life keep on getting in the way of me just fully binging it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 20, 2019, 09:49:16 PM
(https://i.redd.it/qdkgdb81tza31.jpg)

Eisenhorn.  Another book series I've been meaning to read.

I tend to prefer the Heresy and Xenos-centric books, so not my normal cup of tea, but it'll suffice.

Besides, I make two films better than Ultramarines every morning in my bathroom, so my bar is set pretty low.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 21, 2019, 02:06:00 AM
How do you all feel about the live action avatar the last Airbender show being in the making.
Unless the creators bring new content, I'm like: why?
And if they want to change the story, I'm like: why?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on July 21, 2019, 10:08:04 AM
How do you all feel about the live action avatar the last Airbender show being in the making.
Unless the creators bring new content, I'm like: why?
And if they want to change the story, I'm like: why?

Well, the original creators are the ones making it, so it wont be as bad as the live-action movie was. I'll give it a chance, especially since Nickelodeon stopped playing the original on TV to make more room for their sponge show.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 21, 2019, 11:58:19 AM
A new Westworld season 3 trailer is out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OHqKAcsviM
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 21, 2019, 06:27:21 PM
Well, the original creators are the ones making it, so it wont be as bad as the live-action movie was. I'll give it a chance, especially since Nickelodeon stopped playing the original on TV to make more room for their sponge show.

Oh, I'll give it a shot too.
I'm just, 'why?'
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on July 21, 2019, 06:56:49 PM
Oh, I'll give it a shot too.
I'm just, 'why?'

Yeah, I dunno. I outgrew the idea that liveaction is inherently superior to animation years ago. Avatar:The Last Airbender had a distinctly anime-ish style, and they made very good use of it to enhance the show's comedic moments. What would have made more sense to me would have been to have a show following a different avatar, such as Roku. Then they could have new stories, new characters, etc.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 21, 2019, 08:57:02 PM
A new Westworld season 3 trailer is out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OHqKAcsviM
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING.

Now, you know, you've condemned me to watch 8 hours of trailer breakdowns and theories, right?  Aw, who am I kidding.  Probably more like 32 hours.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 22, 2019, 12:15:55 AM
Troi and Riker are coming back on TV in Star Trek: Picard.  Fact or fiction?

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Kirk is also scheduled to have a cameo.  Fact or fiction?

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on July 24, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
https://www.facebook.com/invaderzim/videos/376621363043872/
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on July 24, 2019, 05:38:35 PM
I'M GONNA SING THE DOOM SONG NOW!

doom do ddoom ddooo ddooooOOM!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 25, 2019, 09:25:18 AM
Finally in the "Legion" TV show, Legion revealed himself, only took 3 seasons and 24 episodes.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on July 29, 2019, 07:12:05 AM
https://www.facebook.com/invaderzim/videos/376621363043872/

Well, and I was about to let my Netflix membership lapse... scratch that.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on July 30, 2019, 06:50:00 PM
5th episode of The Loudest Voice is the 2012 re-election to 2014. Shows Roger Ailes as losing his mind and paying off a mistress he abused for $3.5m and his media relations aid for $8m of 17 years. Now he's surrounded by merely yes-men at the end of 2014.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Draconic Aiur on July 30, 2019, 06:50:27 PM
Saw this show called The Boys, pretty good. 8/10
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 06, 2019, 12:09:16 PM
Saw this show called The Boys, pretty good. 8/10

Saw the first ep, liked it, so now I'm reading the comic first.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 06, 2019, 05:51:03 PM
Have you guys seen 'After Life'?

Not giving any hint or even an actor name. It calmed me. It's dead warmed up and cuddly.   
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 12, 2019, 08:42:16 PM
Have you guys seen 'After Life'?

Not giving any hint or even an actor name. It calmed me. It's dead warmed up and cuddly.

The last couple of episodes of Dragonball Super are coming next Saturday.  Silly show, but I'm addicted...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on August 12, 2019, 11:50:34 PM
I've been rewatching Final Space.  It really is an amazing, amazing show.

It's one of those scifi action-comedy shows we've all seen a million times over, but this one is different, and it's difficult for me to explain how.  It takes familiar scifi tropes but tweaks them just enough to feel unique and pairs it with a surprisingly deep character arc.

It kinda falls flat as a comedy, because most of the gags are dumb and don't really land.  It also feels like the show is missing about a season's worth of backstory, and Gary's voice acting is still horrifically grating.  But the visuals are good, there's a steady progression of worldbuilding, plenty of colorful characters, good action, etc.

The thing that sets it apart is that pretty regularly in the first season, there are some serious WHAM episodes.  Major pathos.  This is the only show I've seen that has me chuckling at something one minute and on the verge of tears the next.

More episodes.  I need more episodes!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 13, 2019, 12:54:10 AM
I've been rewatching Final Space.  It really is an amazing, amazing show.

It's one of those scifi action-comedy shows we've all seen a million times over, but this one is different, and it's difficult for me to explain how.  It takes familiar scifi tropes but tweaks them just enough to feel unique and pairs it with a surprisingly deep character arc.

It kinda falls flat as a comedy, because most of the gags are dumb and don't really land.  It also feels like the show is missing about a season's worth of backstory, and Gary's voice acting is still horrifically grating.  But the visuals are good, there's a steady progression of worldbuilding, plenty of colorful characters, good action, etc.

The thing that sets it apart is that pretty regularly in the first season, there are some serious WHAM episodes.  Major pathos.  This is the only show I've seen that has me chuckling at something one minute and on the verge of tears the next.

More episodes.  I need more episodes!

Where can it be viewed?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on August 13, 2019, 02:41:59 PM
The final episode of Legion is quite interesting.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on August 14, 2019, 11:44:00 PM
Where can it be viewed?
TBS.  Or the usual streaming services.

On a related note, I'm all caught up and let me tell ya, that latest WHAM episode had me like:

(https://media.tenor.com/images/75b017becb4c4f0c664d830abdf5382c/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 15, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
TBS.  Or the usual streaming services.

On a related note, I'm all caught up and let me tell ya, that latest WHAM episode had me like:

(https://media.tenor.com/images/75b017becb4c4f0c664d830abdf5382c/tenor.gif)

Well, I'm enjoying Archer and Dragonball Super.  They aren't anything alike, but I get a kick from each.  Sterling Archer cracks me up as a spy-spoof.  His basic strategy is do the need of the moment and trust the next problem to be solvable of the fly.  Mother is weird and I love the way she mostly just drinks all day.  But when things get rough, she is very skilled.  The other characters are equally weird in their own ways.  Sterling once said he always just trusts to luck. 

I think that because that is so opposite from my experience that he fascinates me.

And then there is Dragonball Super.  I've been watching iterations of this series for a decade at least.  The animation is poor (very repetitive and still at times).  It drives me to laughter seeing some of the characters just alternately breath heavily and change head colors.  But there is something about it that makes me keep watching.  I suppose it is the changing opponents. 

In comic books and the movies from them, it is always the same old villains over and over again.  In dragonball, they keep coming up with new ones.  And sometimes the villains even become allies.  You don't see that very often!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: drunkenshoe on August 15, 2019, 03:23:00 AM
I'm waiting for Rick and Morty's 4th season.

I have seen Good Omens lately, I liked it. It was really good.

Also I read that a group of Christians made petition and asked Netflix to stop the blasphemy while it is an Amazon series. So it is worth to watch just because of that, lol.   

Has anyone seen the Blacklist series? I hear it is good.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on August 15, 2019, 03:49:02 AM
I'm waiting for Rick and Morty's 4th season.

I have seen Good Omens lately, I liked it. It was really good.

Also I read that a group of Christians made petition and asked Netflix to stop the blasphemy while it is an Amazon series. So it is worth to watch just because of that, lol.   

Has anyone seen the Blacklist series? I hear it is good.

My English ancestors were nearby to the neighborhood in Lancaster what inspired (very loosely) Good Omens.  Pendle Witch Trial of 1612.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 15, 2019, 12:59:52 PM
I'm waiting for Rick and Morty's 4th season.

I have seen Good Omens lately, I liked it. It was really good.

Also I read that a group of Christians made petition and asked Netflix to stop the blasphemy while it is an Amazon series. So it is worth to watch just because of that, lol.   

Has anyone seen the Blacklist series? I hear it is good.

It's only been 3 seasons?  Seems like 10.  And yes, I love that disgusting drooling misanthropic bastard...  But I love to watch it the way I would love to see the 2 biggest bullies from High School actually kill each other. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on August 15, 2019, 01:59:30 PM
It's only been 3 seasons?  Seems like 10.  And yes, I love that disgusting drooling misanthropic bastard...  But I love to watch it the way I would love to see the 2 biggest bullies from High School actually kill each other.

Rick & Morty channels some good shit.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 15, 2019, 02:49:36 PM
Rick & Morty channels some good shit.

I think my TV Guide on Fios has a sense of humor.  Almost every episode is described "Jerry and Beth discuss marital problems.  Summer has issues".  OK, they could be lazy.  They call 'Archer' a children's show.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on August 18, 2019, 11:45:26 AM
And then there is Dragonball Super.  I've been watching iterations of this series for a decade at least.  The animation is poor (very repetitive and still at times).  It drives me to laughter seeing some of the characters just alternately breath heavily and change head colors.  But there is something about it that makes me keep watching.  I suppose it is the changing opponents.

Dragon Ball Z, in its prime, was actually pretty revolutionary. Before then, anime fights were a bunch of still frames. DBZ had actual choreography. They still cheated by padding out the run time with long, quiet stare downs, and powering up scenes, to save them money on animation, but when they actually got to the fights, it was exciting stuff. Basically every Shonen anime after imitates DBZ, sometimes improving on it (My Hero Academia), and sometimes just kinda trying too hard to be DBZ (Yu Yu Hakusho).

For many in America, DBZ on Toonami was their gateway drug to anime. We had anime before, but it never really took off until DBZ blew up in popularity.

While I enjoy Super, it does feel like there is something missing from it. Unlike GT, Super is actually written by the original author, Toriyama, but just with a bare outline. TOEI fills in the blanks to make the anime, and Toyotaro does his own thing with the manga. And that's another thing. Usually the manga comes first, and then the anime adapts it into animation. In this case, they're more like alternate universes to each other, and the manga had been way behind.

For some reason, TOEI feels the need to keep adding these transformations to the story, which aren't explained and don't even do anything. Trunks had that Super Saiyan Rage, or whatever they call it. They never explained what it was, how he did it, or even gave it a name in the anime. Trunks didn't even do anything with the transformation. Usually with these transformations, you see the character kick ass when it first appears, but not in this case. Same with Vegeta's new transformation from last week (in the dub).  It's supposedly a level higher than Blue, but it isn't Super Saiyan Blue 2. It's not explained, it's not named in the anime (outside, it's officially named Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Evolution, as if SSGSS wasn't long enough), and it does absolutely nothing. It's like TOEI thinks we've got short attention spans, and can't go a few episodes without a shiny new hairstyle.

Another problem with Super is a lack of real stakes. Because it takes place in between the time skip at the end of Z, you know everyone is going to be okay. In Super, they don't even try to hide it. Piccolo dies, they have him wished back to life offscreen. No big deal. Compare that to DBZ. Raditz shows up, Goku sacrifices himself to kill him. Of course, Piccolo knows the others will use the Dragon Balls to bring him back, but that attracts the attention of Vegeta and Nappa. While they're waiting for Goku to show up, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Tien die. Chiaotzu and Tien had already been revived with the Dragon Balls, so they can't be wished back. Then Piccolo dies, which means they don't even have Dragon Balls any more. There was a lot more tension in DBZ.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on August 18, 2019, 09:46:20 PM
INVADER ZIM HAS RETURNED!

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/544/905/e5e.gif)

He actually returned a while ago in the comics, and the new animated movie took the basics of the first comic and went off in a completely new plotline.

The good stuff: faithful recreation in the original zim spirit, wacky hijinks galore, great gags, great visuals, quite the nostalgic trip!  It hit all the right notes to make a worthy addition to ZIM!

The bad stuff: two glaringly missing elements: the horror and the satire.  In the original run, society is figuratively and literally nightmarish.  So you'd have stuff like schoolkids used as free labor to sell candy bars made out of sawdust under the threat that low sellers' parents would be instructed to love them less.

It was miserable and hilarious in equal measure, and it allowed the show to work on two levels.  On the a surface level, a simple comedy.  And on the deeper level, subversive humor and scathing criticisms of society, particularly subservience to authority and corporate greed.

Also, characters have now explicitly stated their intentions or feelings - stuff that was ambiguous before.  I think it should've been kept ambiguous, it made for interesting theory-fodder.

The stuff I'm unsure about: Gaz's personality has been completely reworked.

In the original run, she was a true force of nature - obsessed with video games and pizza and disdainful of mundane concerns.  Every moment sidetracked from her hobbies is torturous to her and she proved to be super skilled at a lot of things, but totally uninterested in pursuing those talents except to resume her hobbies.

Now, she's more or less a normal kid who dislikes dib and dib's activities, but nonetheless helps out.  She's even cheerful at times, which is so unlike TV Gaz that I originally thought it might've been an error or the setup for a big twist.

The good thing about this is it makes her less one-note and more well-rounded.  The bad thing is that I actually really enjoyed Gaz's uber-cynicism.  She wasn't the most pleasant person in the world, but she was driven and mostly independent, and I respect that.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: josephpalazzo on August 19, 2019, 02:17:28 PM
Anyone watched the last episode of Successions? Logan Roy, one badass...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on August 22, 2019, 06:41:42 PM
Watching The Righteous Gemstones, 1st episode. It's pretty fun take on televangelists.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Unbeliever on August 22, 2019, 06:51:47 PM
I just watched the trailer, and it looks pretty good.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on August 22, 2019, 07:06:39 PM
I just watched the trailer, and it looks pretty good.
It's quite hilarious. Not seen the end yet, but I recommend it. Debauchery and degeneracy abound.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on August 23, 2019, 10:56:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOC8E8z_ifw

Two words:  Pedro Pascal (Oberyn Martell)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 23, 2019, 11:42:33 PM
Dragon Ball Z, in its prime, was actually pretty revolutionary. Before then, anime fights were a bunch of still frames. DBZ had actual choreography. They still cheated by padding out the run time with long, quiet stare downs, and powering up scenes, to save them money on animation, but when they actually got to the fights, it was exciting stuff. Basically every Shonen anime after imitates DBZ, sometimes improving on it (My Hero Academia), and sometimes just kinda trying too hard to be DBZ (Yu Yu Hakusho).

For many in America, DBZ on Toonami was their gateway drug to anime. We had anime before, but it never really took off until DBZ blew up in popularity.

While I enjoy Super, it does feel like there is something missing from it. Unlike GT, Super is actually written by the original author, Toriyama, but just with a bare outline. TOEI fills in the blanks to make the anime, and Toyotaro does his own thing with the manga. And that's another thing. Usually the manga comes first, and then the anime adapts it into animation. In this case, they're more like alternate universes to each other, and the manga had been way behind.

For some reason, TOEI feels the need to keep adding these transformations to the story, which aren't explained and don't even do anything. Trunks had that Super Saiyan Rage, or whatever they call it. They never explained what it was, how he did it, or even gave it a name in the anime. Trunks didn't even do anything with the transformation. Usually with these transformations, you see the character kick ass when it first appears, but not in this case. Same with Vegeta's new transformation from last week (in the dub).  It's supposedly a level higher than Blue, but it isn't Super Saiyan Blue 2. It's not explained, it's not named in the anime (outside, it's officially named Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Evolution, as if SSGSS wasn't long enough), and it does absolutely nothing. It's like TOEI thinks we've got short attention spans, and can't go a few episodes without a shiny new hairstyle.

Another problem with Super is a lack of real stakes. Because it takes place in between the time skip at the end of Z, you know everyone is going to be okay. In Super, they don't even try to hide it. Piccolo dies, they have him wished back to life offscreen. No big deal. Compare that to DBZ. Raditz shows up, Goku sacrifices himself to kill him. Of course, Piccolo knows the others will use the Dragon Balls to bring him back, but that attracts the attention of Vegeta and Nappa. While they're waiting for Goku to show up, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Tien die. Chiaotzu and Tien had already been revived with the Dragon Balls, so they can't be wished back. Then Piccolo dies, which means they don't even have Dragon Balls any more. There was a lot more tension in DBZ.

For me, Dragonball Super is just reaching the climax.  Tomorrow night may be the end, but anime can really drag things out.  There is still Jillian do be disposed of (I suspect Goku and Freiza will manage that with perhaps some help from Vegeta or Android 17).  I think the result will be that all Universes are returned somehow.  I really dislike those 2 obnoxious Emperor twins and a final wish that they be eliminated and all others returned would please me greatly.  Powers like them just annoy me too much and their childlike glee and simplicity is too theistic.

I've never watched the series enough to keep track of the characters who get killed and return.  In fact, I've kind of wondered why Buu wasn't in the Super contests. 
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on August 24, 2019, 08:01:55 AM
For me, Dragonball Super is just reaching the climax.  Tomorrow night may be the end, but anime can really drag things out.  There is still Jillian do be disposed of (I suspect Goku and Freiza will manage that with perhaps some help from Vegeta or Android 17).  I think the result will be that all Universes are returned somehow.  I really dislike those 2 obnoxious Emperor twins and a final wish that they be eliminated and all others returned would please me greatly.  Powers like them just annoy me too much and their childlike glee and simplicity is too theistic.

I've never watched the series enough to keep track of the characters who get killed and return.  In fact, I've kind of wondered why Buu wasn't in the Super contests.

Super still has quite a few weeks of episodes left to go in the English dub. It goes into Frieza time towards the end, where the time limit just ceases to matter. Thirty minute episodes for one minute of in-universe time. That was one of the most disappointing things about the tournament to me. The rule about the universe with the most men standing turns out not to matter. It devolves into the typical good guys versus bad guy thing.

There's actually a fan theory that the Zenos are supposed to represent the Dragon Ball fan base. Easily excited, yet easily offended. The fate of the Dragon Ball universe rests on their entertainment.

Buu isn't in the tournament because he fell asleep. Again. They did the same thing in the last tournament; have him fall asleep and be unable to wake up. In the advertising, they showed Buu in the lineup, only to pull a fast one and replace him with Frieza at the last minute. I turned out to enjoy Frieza a lot, so I'm glad he's back, but I wish they'd stop giving Buu the shaft. Super was Buu's chance to shine as a hero, but he's been worthless every time the Earth is in danger.

After the Tournament of Power is over, I recommend the Dragon Ball Super: Broly movie. It's canonically the next part of the story, and looks to be all we'll get until the next movie comes out (most likely in late 2020). It's sort of a reboot for the Broly movies, bringing the character into canon. It's well written by Dragon Ball standards, and beautifully animated. It also has actual tension, since the drama is centered on Broly rather than Goku and the others. Broly isn't in the End of Z, so we don't know what will happen to him.
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Post by: Cavebear on August 24, 2019, 08:24:29 AM
Super still has quite a few weeks of episodes left to go in the English dub. It goes into Frieza time towards the end, where the time limit just ceases to matter. Thirty minute episodes for one minute of in-universe time. That was one of the most disappointing things about the tournament to me. The rule about the universe with the most men standing turns out not to matter. It devolves into the typical good guys versus bad guy thing.

There's actually a fan theory that the Zenos are supposed to represent the Dragon Ball fan base. Easily excited, yet easily offended. The fate of the Dragon Ball universe rests on their entertainment.

Buu isn't in the tournament because he fell asleep. Again. They did the same thing in the last tournament; have him fall asleep and be unable to wake up. In the advertising, they showed Buu in the lineup, only to pull a fast one and replace him with Frieza at the last minute. I turned out to enjoy Frieza a lot, so I'm glad he's back, but I wish they'd stop giving Buu the shaft. Super was Buu's chance to shine as a hero, but he's been worthless every time the Earth is in danger.

After the Tournament of Power is over, I recommend the Dragon Ball Super: Broly movie. It's canonically the next part of the story, and looks to be all we'll get until the next movie comes out (most likely in late 2020). It's sort of a reboot for the Broly movies, bringing the character into canon. It's well written by Dragon Ball standards, and beautifully animated. It also has actual tension, since the drama is centered on Broly rather than Goku and the others. Broly isn't in the End of Z, so we don't know what will happen to him.

Thank you. I am now i more intestested than before.
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Post by: trdsf on August 24, 2019, 05:13:56 PM
Dragon Ball Z, in its prime, was actually pretty revolutionary. Before then, anime fights were a bunch of still frames. DBZ had actual choreography. They still cheated by padding out the run time with long, quiet stare downs, and powering up scenes, to save them money on animation, but when they actually got to the fights, it was exciting stuff.
"The planet's going to blow up in five minutes!"  (three 22-minute episodes later)  "The planet's going to blow up in four minutes!"

Friend of mine once outlined not a parody episode, but an entire 26-episode season, the sum total action of which was getting Goku out of bed and downstairs for breakfast.  As I recall, the shower was broken down into turning on the hot water, turning on the cold water, adjusting the final temperature, turning on the shower head, drawing back the shower curtain, and actually getting into the shower.  Hell, there's six episodes right there.

Season 2 would have been eating breakfast.
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Post by: Cavebear on August 24, 2019, 07:17:06 PM
"The planet's going to blow up in five minutes!"  (three 22-minute episodes later)  "The planet's going to blow up in four minutes!"

Friend of mine once outlined not a parody episode, but an entire 26-episode season, the sum total action of which was getting Goku out of bed and downstairs for breakfast.  As I recall, the shower was broken down into turning on the hot water, turning on the cold water, adjusting the final temperature, turning on the shower head, drawing back the shower curtain, and actually getting into the shower.  Hell, there's six episodes right there.

Season 2 would have been eating breakfast.

I completely agree that nothing happens fast in anime.  Which is way, I I Dragonball Super because there is some action.  But yeah, there is a lot of static non-movement. 
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Post by: Blackleaf on August 24, 2019, 09:35:45 PM
"The planet's going to blow up in five minutes!"  (three 22-minute episodes later)  "The planet's going to blow up in four minutes!"

Friend of mine once outlined not a parody episode, but an entire 26-episode season, the sum total action of which was getting Goku out of bed and downstairs for breakfast.  As I recall, the shower was broken down into turning on the hot water, turning on the cold water, adjusting the final temperature, turning on the shower head, drawing back the shower curtain, and actually getting into the shower.  Hell, there's six episodes right there.

Season 2 would have been eating breakfast.

The reason the final battle on Namek was so laughably long was they were running out of material to work with. A lot of anime run into this problem. Some anime abandon the source material and make stuff up (Full Metal Alchemist), some create filler, and sometimes they just stretch things out to bide for time. Nowadays, some of them take breaks, but that didn't seem to be the norm back then. The Garlic Jr. Saga, everyone's favorite arc to hate, was also spawned from this lack of material.

"What do we do now?"

"Uh, we could rehash one of the movies."
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Post by: Cavebear on August 24, 2019, 11:21:50 PM
The reason the final battle on Namek was so laughably long was they were running out of material to work with. A lot of anime run into this problem. Some anime abandon the source material and make stuff up (Full Metal Alchemist), some create filler, and sometimes they just stretch things out to bide for time. Nowadays, some of them take breaks, but that didn't seem to be the norm back then. The Garlic Jr. Saga, everyone's favorite arc to hate, was also spawned from this lack of material.

"What do we do now?"

"Uh, we could rehash one of the movies."

I used to LOVE Full Metal Alchemist.  The idea was great..
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Post by: Baruch on August 25, 2019, 01:19:20 AM
I used to LOVE Full Metal Alchemist.  The idea was great..

I liked FMA too.
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Post by: Hydra009 on August 25, 2019, 05:31:37 PM
I completely agree that nothing happens fast in anime.
I dunno about that.  Some series have breakneck pacing, some drag things out, most are in between.
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Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2019, 11:36:51 PM
I dunno about that.  Some series have breakneck pacing, some drag things out, most are in between.

Can you name an anime where action moves fast?  I might watch it.
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Post by: Hydra009 on August 26, 2019, 11:59:40 PM
Can you name an anime where action moves fast?  I might watch it.
It's hard to say exactly.  Most have at least few contemplative moments between battles, if not a beach episode.

From my own personal experienve, I'd say Gundam 00 or Kill-la-Kill are pretty solid for fast-paced battles.

Imo, literally anything probably has better pacing than DBZ.  It was a standout show in a lot of ways, but man, did it drag out its fights.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 27, 2019, 12:08:17 AM
It's hard to say exactly.  Most have at least few contemplative moments between battles, if not a beach episode.

From my own personal experienve, I'd say Gundam 00 or Kill-la-Kill are pretty solid for fast-paced battles.

Imo, literally anything probably has better pacing than DBZ.  It was a standout show in a lot of ways, but man, did it drag out its fights.

I'll look for those 2.  And yeah, I've always complained that DBZ can really drag things out.  Dragonball Super is a bit better about that.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 27, 2019, 01:17:37 AM
My hero academia has some pretty solid fights.
Shorter fights than dbz, too.

But they still get dragged out, definitely in the earlier episodes by flashing back to ten minutes ago.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Cavebear on August 27, 2019, 01:38:47 AM
My hero academia has some pretty solid fights.
Shorter fights than dbz, too.

But they still get dragged out, definitely in the earlier episodes by flashing back to ten minutes ago.

What about that one with the naked titans?  I've tended to skip it but saw one episode where they mostly explained all about it.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 27, 2019, 01:43:40 AM
What about that one with the naked titans?  I've tended to skip it but saw one episode where they mostly explained all about it.

Never watched that,  premise was too silly, even for me.
I understand the nime is trying to present itself serious and gritty and horrifying.
I just can't watch even à commercial without thinking: wow, this is dumb.
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Post by: Cavebear on August 27, 2019, 01:55:51 AM
Never watched that,  premise was too silly, even for me.
I understand the nime is trying to present itself serious and gritty and horrifying.
I just can't watch even à commercial without thinking: wow, this is dumb.

I understand.  But when one episode explained that there were 2 groups on the world and the minority was made into mindless titans when injected with something and the other group was trying to make the minority scary, it started to make a "little sense".  I haven't watched it since then though.
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Post by: Baruch on August 27, 2019, 02:01:49 AM
Recently enjoyed I,My, Me Strawberry Egg.  Or is that TMI?
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Post by: Cavebear on August 27, 2019, 03:15:31 AM
Recently enjoyed I,My, Me Strawberry Egg.  Or is that TMI?

OK, that one was WAY out there.  Good work.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on August 27, 2019, 07:58:45 AM
OK, that one was WAY out there.  Good work.

Anime is way out there, in many directions.
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Post by: Hydra009 on August 27, 2019, 04:42:45 PM
What about that one with the naked titans?  I've tended to skip it but saw one episode where they mostly explained all about it.
That show is my jam.  It basically drip-feeds you lore and character backstories.  However, season 3 feels like they just plow through all the secrets when they were few and far between before then.
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Post by: Hydra009 on August 27, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
Never watched that,  premise was too silly, even for me.
I understand the nime is trying to present itself serious and gritty and horrifying.
I just can't watch even a commercial without thinking: wow, this is dumb.
It absolutely is an absurd premise, but the story is remarkably self-consistent.  I try to visualize it as an alternate history, so its conventions make sense to someone in that world, not someone in our world.

I approach it the same way as I would approach a zombie show - it's an unscientific, unrealistic premise and you either roll with that or change the channel.
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Post by: Cavebear on August 27, 2019, 11:33:29 PM
That show is my jam.  It basically drip-feeds you lore and character backstories.  However, season 3 feels like they just plow through all the secrets when they were few and far between before then.

Yeah, the small amount of information was very interesting and intriguing.  And I can see possibilities if I followed it.  But quite frankly, I would rather that they reshowed Cowboy BeBop, .hack//Sign, and Ghost In The Shell.
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Post by: Hydra009 on August 28, 2019, 06:37:42 PM
Speaking of 90s nostalgia, I've been rewatching Exosquad.

It was a standout hit and fairly gritty military science fiction, especially for the target audience.  And more character deaths than most Newberry books, lol.

But the most striking thing about it was the hilariously garish fashion choice of this futuristic society:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/exosquad/images/f/fe/Pirates.png/revision/latest?cb=20170107043514)

Pretty much everyone wears tight-fitting clothing (often with shoulder pads) painted in a seemingly random mish-mash of bright hues.  Hairstyles are equally comedic; long locks of hair paired with shaved undercuts, mullets, and what I can only assume was the inspiration for Butters' hair.

It is the most unintentionally funny thing I've seen in a long, long time: fabulous fashion clashing gloriously with the carnage of war.

Oh, and the heroes straight up murder their adversaries with little/no emotion:

http://i.imgur.com/dPQdXEw.mp4
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Post by: Sal1981 on August 29, 2019, 06:41:17 AM
The 1st episode of The Righteous Gemstones was hilarious and entertaining, but the 2nd episode seemed to fall flat on its face, not to mention that it was only an half hour long episode. IDK, maybe I just expected more from it, given the pilot episode.

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Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2019, 02:03:15 AM
Speaking of 90s nostalgia, I've been rewatching Exosquad.

It was a standout hit and fairly gritty military science fiction, especially for the target audience.  And more character deaths than most Newberry books, lol.

But the most striking thing about it was the hilariously garish fashion choice of this futuristic society:

Pretty much everyone wears tight-fitting clothing (often with shoulder pads) painted in a seemingly random mish-mash of bright hues.  Hairstyles are equally comedic; long locks of hair paired with shaved undercuts, mullets, and what I can only assume was the inspiration for Butters' hair.

It is the most unintentionally funny thing I've seen in a long, long time: fabulous fashion clashing gloriously with the carnage of war.

Oh, and the heroes straight up murder their adversaries with little/no emotion:


The artwork looks familiar, especially the hair.  What should it be reminding me of?  I can't get my memory to identify it.
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Post by: Blackleaf on August 31, 2019, 05:40:16 PM
The artwork looks familiar, especially the hair.  What should it be reminding me of?  I can't get my memory to identify it.

Looks like pretty much every other 90s cartoon. lol
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Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2019, 06:08:24 PM
Looks like pretty much every other 90s cartoon. lol

No, I think there is someome specific behind it.  Its like recognizing character voices.  Well, they could just be good copiers.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 01, 2019, 05:31:03 AM
The artwork looks familiar, especially the hair.  What should it be reminding me of?  I can't get my memory to identify it.

Reminds me of x-men, the old cartoon

Bub.
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Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2019, 06:09:31 AM
Reminds me of x-men, the old cartoon

Bub.

Something else.  A hint of Futurama, but not exactly that.  I'll see it somewhere and recognize it.  I catch voice artists the same way sometimes. 
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 06, 2019, 12:24:31 AM
(https://i.redd.it/1e4qwxd1uuk31.png)

Had a miniture conniption today reading about this.  Maybe it's nothing in this case, but in general, changing the number of episodes can have a big impact on the pacing of the story as well as the quality of the story.  Less episodes does not necessarily mean higher quality!
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Post by: drunkenshoe on September 06, 2019, 01:24:44 PM
I have been watching Coupling today, after I have no idea...decades after its time. It's either the show has aged well or I have aged badly. Don't care, it is still funny.   
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 20, 2019, 08:46:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdF52zJcfo

I want to watch this show so bad.

Also, if you don't reflexively do the fist-over-the-chest salute while listening to this song, you're probably in league with the titans.
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Post by: Baruch on September 20, 2019, 10:07:28 PM
Since the Japanese love swords and aren't Woke ... this anime may be a reincarnation of Star Wars Clone Wars.
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Post by: trdsf on September 21, 2019, 01:12:30 AM
Re-watching the original 'The Prisoner'.  Still amazing.
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Post by: Baruch on September 21, 2019, 03:38:26 AM
Re-watching the original 'The Prisoner'.  Still amazing.

Would love the security bubbles to discipline our public officials.  The dialog today seems as deranged as in that show.
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Post by: Mike Cl on September 21, 2019, 09:27:19 AM
Re-watching the original 'The Prisoner'.  Still amazing.
I had forgotten that one.  I liked it then.  Wonder if I'd like it now.  I really liked Patrick McGoohan in anything he was in, including Secret Agent.  And that TV show's theme song is a real earworm!  I just thought of that show and the theme song just popped into my head--and now it is stuck there!  Well, shit........................
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Post by: trdsf on September 21, 2019, 02:48:36 PM
I had forgotten that one.  I liked it then.  Wonder if I'd like it now.  I really liked Patrick McGoohan in anything he was in, including Secret Agent.  And that TV show's theme song is a real earworm!  I just thought of that show and the theme song just popped into my head--and now it is stuck there!  Well, shit........................
Ron Grainer was the artist of British TV show themes.  He's also responsible for the Doctor Who theme, although even he wasn't ready for what Delia Derbyshire and the Radiophonic Workshop did with it.  Upon first hearing it, he asked, "Did I write that?" to which she answered, "Most of it." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_theme_music#1960s)  When you realize that it was done before the invention of the synthesizer, by manually editing bits of magnetic tape together, her accomplishment is even more amazing.

For my money, the Derbyshire realization of the Doctor Who theme remains the definitive one, particularly as finalized in the late Pertwee and most of the Tom Baker years.  I'm not a big fan of the more orchestrated versions; it should be otherworldly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNszKKAtEwU
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Post by: Mike Cl on September 21, 2019, 05:29:30 PM
Ron Grainer was the artist of British TV show themes.  He's also responsible for the Doctor Who theme, although even he wasn't ready for what Delia Derbyshire and the Radiophonic Workshop did with it.  Upon first hearing it, he asked, "Did I write that?" to which she answered, "Most of it." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_theme_music#1960s)  When you realize that it was done before the invention of the synthesizer, by manually editing bits of magnetic tape together, her accomplishment is even more amazing.

For my money, the Derbyshire realization of the Doctor Who theme remains the definitive one, particularly as finalized in the late Pertwee and most of the Tom Baker years.  I'm not a big fan of the more orchestrated versions; it should be otherworldly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNszKKAtEwU
Somehow, some way, I have not even seen a single episode of that show.  But I listened to that there song and I really like it.  How did I miss that show????
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Baruch on September 21, 2019, 07:04:46 PM
Somehow, some way, I have not even seen a single episode of that show.  But I listened to that there song and I really like it.  How did I miss that show????

What the hell is wrong with you! ;-)  The first series with the first Doctor is a good place to begin.
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Post by: Mike Cl on September 21, 2019, 07:06:37 PM
What the hell is wrong with you! ;-)  The first series with the first Doctor is a good place to begin.
I've been trying to figure that out for decades now.
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Post by: trdsf on September 22, 2019, 12:05:30 AM
Somehow, some way, I have not even seen a single episode of that show.  But I listened to that there song and I really like it.  How did I miss that show????
I dunno.  For most of us, the gateway drug was showings of the classic series on PBS stations in the 70s and 80s.  I was lucky to have three different PBS stations on our local cable network; I caught one serial on Friday night on Channel 27, and a different one on Sunday on channel 56.  The actual local PBS station, channel 30, didn't carry Doctor Who.  But most of it's out there somewhere to be seen.  I can provide a list of recommended episodes for each Doctor... striking out at random might lead to disappointments like 'The Gunfighters' or 'Kill the Moon'.
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Post by: Mike Cl on September 22, 2019, 09:34:43 AM
I dunno.  For most of us, the gateway drug was showings of the classic series on PBS stations in the 70s and 80s.  I was lucky to have three different PBS stations on our local cable network; I caught one serial on Friday night on Channel 27, and a different one on Sunday on channel 56.  The actual local PBS station, channel 30, didn't carry Doctor Who.  But most of it's out there somewhere to be seen.  I can provide a list of recommended episodes for each Doctor... striking out at random might lead to disappointments like 'The Gunfighters' or 'Kill the Moon'.
I'll google some early YouTube episodes.  If...................I can tear myself away from the 10th play thru of FO4. :))
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Post by: Baruch on September 22, 2019, 11:07:11 AM
I'll google some early YouTube episodes.  If...................I can tear myself away from the 10th play thru of FO4. :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXBmQz2r2M8

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Post by: Hydra009 on September 22, 2019, 06:18:57 PM
Somehow, some way, I have not even seen a single episode of that show.  But I listened to that there song and I really like it.  How did I miss that show????
Unpopular opinion: start with the revival (series 1, circa 2005).  So you'd be starting with the 9th Doctor and the episode entitled "Rose"

Not gonna lie, there are some stinkers every now and then, but by and large, it's a brilliant show.
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Post by: trdsf on September 23, 2019, 03:11:45 AM
Unpopular opinion: start with the revival (series 1, circa 2005).  So you'd be starting with the 9th Doctor and the episode entitled "Rose"

Not gonna lie, there are some stinkers every now and then, but by and large, it's a brilliant show.
I'd suggest starting with some Tom Baker or Jon Pertwee episodes.  But 'Rose' is a good episode to start with.  Most of the Eccleston year is pretty strong, arguably the single strongest season since the year Douglas Adams was script editor (1979), or the season the original Master was introduced (1971).
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 23, 2019, 05:20:03 AM
Unpopular opinion: start with the revival (series 1, circa 2005).  So you'd be starting with the 9th Doctor and the episode entitled "Rose"

Not gonna lie, there are some stinkers every now and then, but by and large, it's a brilliant show.

Started with the revival, I enjoyed the first few episodes but was never hooked.
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 23, 2019, 09:26:08 AM
Started with the revival, I enjoyed the first few episodes but was never hooked.
(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/nV9i4o1cf1atG/giphy.gif)

Nah, the show had me at first Bad Wolf.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on September 28, 2019, 02:05:27 PM
The Politician. I have just started. It's the new Netflix teen soap with political ambition. It is so disgustingly funny, I can't look away now.

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Your generation got the terrible idea that it was best to vomit every thought and feeling all over each other. It's a pandemic of overcommunication that's led to an absence of intimacy.



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Post by: drunkenshoe on September 28, 2019, 02:16:08 PM
I've been trying to figure that out for decades now.

You'd love that show, Mike. It's wholesome, original and also the source of inspiration for lots of things you know and more famous than itself. You can start from the very beginning or with the new ones, don't think too much about it. You'll enjoy them differently. It's actually a bigger cult than star wars, don't listen them. LOL
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Post by: Baruch on September 28, 2019, 03:54:30 PM
I have missed so many episodes, even the partial episode clips are fresh to me.  Some of the story arcs with "companions" are quite sad though.  Think of Dr Who as a transmogrification of the Cold War for British children, as Star Trek was a transmogrification for American children.
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 28, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
Have you guys ever seen any of those 4K/HD remakes of old(ish) TV intros?  Cause they are mindblowing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtUmm5mTehM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sns1Xj6L-Qc

I'm sitting here like Morty experiencing true level.

"Everything's crooked!  I want to go back!  I can't live like this, I can't live like this.  LAMBS TO THE COSMIC SLAUGHTER!"
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Post by: Munch on October 20, 2019, 05:09:17 PM
I've been, in October fashion, buying a couple horror movies and TV shows, and brought, because I never watched it before, American horror stories, season 1.

It's pretty good, the actors are pretty decent, the story writing can be fun, if a little head scratching at times, but you need to suspend your disbelief for a horror based series.

Also, why wasn't I made aware of Dylan McDermott before this, bloody hell his man is hot, and he was in his late 40s early 50s when they started this series?!

(https://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/dylan1.jpg?w=300)
 He's freaking dreamy!


update: Seriously, this guy was 57 years old in this video here?!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4AgFKF7Gc
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 26, 2019, 12:01:41 AM
Recently, DC put out another showcase (https://dcmovies.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Showcase:_Death).  This time, they showcased DEATH, everyone's favorite perky goth.

(http://pm1.narvii.com/6399/490a9fc1247a6bf7e2809a8c0705b6b071917aae_00.jpg)

It was surprisingly good little short about a struggling artist and the love of his life.  Let's just say that things get heated.

Go watch it now.  You'll have the time of your life.  You know I did.
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Post by: Shiranu on October 26, 2019, 02:34:32 AM
Catedral del Mar, Netflix

So far, I give it a very high 9/10. It takes place in 1300s Barcelona, and follows the story of a serf/citizen stone carrier during the construction of the cathedral. Of course it is highly dramatized, and it takes place during a very dark time in Barcelona's history; despite being at the peak of their power it's also a time when the aristocracy had far too much power (which lead to famine), the plague struck and war was a regular occurrence.

It is in Spanish, but one benefit of that is it is a truly "Spanish" production; it's not a Spanish film trying to be an American drama, but a Spanish film exploring the extremely horrible conditions and social structures of feudal Espana... and it does not shy away from depicting the physical and mental trauma of living in such an era.

Really great series so far, halfway done so we will see what the second half brings.

Also on my to watch list is, "Casa de Papel" (Bank Heist being the English title)... a modern-day bank heist series set in Madrid which, again, is meant to appeal both to Spanish culture rather than American generic as well has found mass appeal across the Mediterranean and Latin America due to it's condemnation of abusive capitalism. It's become one of the most streamed series on Netflix.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Blackleaf on November 04, 2019, 08:32:08 PM
I just saw this episode of The Amazing World of Gumball called "The choices." It is one of the greatest episodes in cartoon history, IMO. The premise is pretty simple. The mother of the main protagonist, Nicole, is driven to the point of insanity by her chaotic children and husband. So she tries to imagine how different her life would have been if she never met her husband, going through every possible scenario of that day. The ending is what really drives it home, though. They manage to balance humor with heartwarming tearjerkers. While I, and probably most of their young audience don't have families, I imagine the ending is very relatable to those who do. The show in general seems like it was written for adults, but was made PG so that kids could watch it, and I absolutely love it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on November 06, 2019, 03:28:08 AM
Just started Syfy/Amazon's, "The Expanse", apparently based off of a Hugo award nominated series of the same name.

It's been really good so far; some hints of the Terrans from StarCraft, some noir/hardboil investigator themes, Cold War themes between Earth and Mars (with the "Belters" [asteroid belt miners living much like how we treated our miners on Earth a hundred+ years ago] as a sort of third-party proxy), very high quality production...

I was just starting to get into Casa de Papel, but I think I might restart that series once I finish The Expanse. It's been years since I've really watched a sci-fi series or even read a sci-fi book, whereas my entire life up till about 24 was almost exclusively sci-fi stuff. The fouth season comes out this December.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on November 06, 2019, 03:31:56 AM
I've seen a couple of episodes of The Expanse, can recommend.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 06, 2019, 08:46:12 AM
My brother is a big fan of The Expanse.  For some reason, it never quite clicked with me.

I dunno if it was the space mormons or the cockneyed accents or lack of characters I can identify with or bizarre internal logic of the show, but something about it felt very off.  It's weird, I love space operas of all stripes and especially ones with vicious power struggles between different factions like this seems to be, so this should be right up my alley, but for some reason, it's not.

I've seen a couple videos about the Martians and based on what little I know about them, they seem like my kind of people.  (I hope that's not an inadvertently damning statement)  The Martian navy seems particularly impressive - relying on a relatively small number of high tech ships, which matches my style.  Donnager class ftw.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on November 10, 2019, 09:41:18 PM
I've been watching Bojack Horseman. Never realized how bloody good this series was. Maybe at the time I just had my fill of adult animation from south park to family guy to simpsons to american dad and king of the hill that this one just slipped on past me. Strangely now, I find myself drawn into this series maybe more today when I would have 5 years ago. I find the characters and their stories more relatable then most over stuff on tv today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7zZYnFADxk

I think its the whole theme of the fictional world bojack lived in his tv life, being completely subversive to his real life and the day to day shit he deals with, makes me think of my own life and how there isn't really a happily ever after like in tv or stories, but just a series of ups and downs as you go though life.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on November 12, 2019, 05:26:04 AM
Watched the 4 first episodes of Watchmen. It's kinda boring, but I'm just sticking with the series just to see what happens to Adrian Veidt and his little happy place. The rest of the story is kinda bland, yet unpredictable, as a matter of just throwing story twists into the mix.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 15, 2019, 11:59:45 PM
If you have not yet seen The Mandalorian, go and watch it now.  I have spoken.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on November 18, 2019, 02:45:27 PM
I recommend Incite, because I have to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRbCRZJTSOE
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on November 26, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
season 3 of the dragon prince is on netflix!

amazing. I'm going to try to not rush through it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on November 30, 2019, 01:37:28 AM
The Mandalorian is surprisingly good.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on November 30, 2019, 02:03:41 AM
The Mandalorian is surprisingly good.

Good to hear this. I have only one friend who hates everything who has seen it, and he (surprisingly) thinks it's garbage.

I'll probably give it a check then.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 30, 2019, 06:18:47 AM
Good to hear this. I have only one friend who hates everything who has seen it, and he (surprisingly) thinks it's garbage.

I'll probably give it a check then.
My thoughts so far:

First episode:  pretty good
Second episode: absolutely amazing!  My personal favorite
Third episode: near orgasmic
Fourth episode: okay, worryingly tropey and cliche
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on November 30, 2019, 06:22:27 AM
The show is essentially a spaghetti western set in space. 

And the look and feel is directly inspired by Mos Eisley cantina and the rest of the first half of A New Hope.

If that's not what you're into, you probably won't like it.  But if that appeals to you, then you'll probably like it a lot.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on December 02, 2019, 01:07:43 AM
Finally watched true detective, season 1.
Amazing stuff.
Is season 2 worth it? Heard good things about s3.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 03, 2019, 10:35:52 PM
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So, I just watched the Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss pilots.  On repeat.  For the last 3 days.

This is the most demented cartoon series I've ever seen.

...I LOVE IT!

Before I get too far into this, this stuff would be rated R if it were on TV, so I can't in good conscience post the trailer here because then an impressionable young mind could be exposed to the full glory of hell's delights.  And that would be wrong.

Buuuut...I can talk about the show and subtly imply that the trailer is easily googleable and readily accessible.  And if anyone were to do exactly that, well then I would have plausible deniability.  I can't possibly be held accountable for what other people searched for of their own free will.  *devious grin*

Do you like bright, colorful palettes, musical numbers, and Bill Cipher?  Then you'll love Hazbin Hotel.

Do you like The Office, antiheroes, "quirky" humor, and insane amounts of senseless violence?  Like, I'm talking so much violence that the FBI guy watching you in the poorly-concealed FBI van watches your computer screen in abject horror?  Then you'll love Helluva Boss.

In summation:  Hazbin Hotel is like Stephen Universe for Edgelords.  And I'm pretty sure Helluva Boss is the vehicle by which Invader Zim fans are converted into furries.  (It has the same voiceactor who did ZIM)  A small price to pay for salvation.

And did I mention that both shows are set in hell (they're even in a shared universe!)  Catch a glimpse of hell now, because yanno, we're all going there sooner or later!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on December 04, 2019, 05:46:32 AM
Yeah I saw the pilot too, was very funny and had so much energy to it. The voice acting is top notch, the animation was pretty good too, not the kind of style I'm drawn too but it's so nice seeing a new traditional animated feature with all the shit cgi out there.
Angel dust made he burst out laughing on several occasions

Only problem I see going forward with these two shows is, because they were independently made by a small team, and it took them this long to release pilot episodes, then it's obvious this need a lot more support and an animation team to get new episodes out, and they are trying to avoid selling their works to big corporations that would mandate their work for them. So I dunno how their going to make series out of these. You mention Steven universe, well they outsource their episodes to South Korea I think.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 04, 2019, 10:04:44 PM
Yeah I saw the pilot too, was very funny and had so much energy to it. The voice acting is top notch, the animation was pretty good too, not the kind of style I'm drawn too but it's so nice seeing a new traditional animated feature with all the shit cgi out there.
I love the zany character designs.  The characters remind me a lot of the nightmare monsters from the Invader Zim episode, Halloween Spectacular of Spooky Doom.  And I freaking love that episode.

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Angel dust made he burst out laughing on several occasions
Me, too.  And I'm tempted to call a close friend and quote verbatim the telephone scene with Stolas from Helluva boss.  I was pretty stone-faced until that scene, then I couldn't stop laughing.

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Only problem I see going forward with these two shows is, because they were independently made by a small team, and it took them this long to release pilot episodes, then it's obvious this need a lot more support and an animation team to get new episodes out, and they are trying to avoid selling their works to big corporations that would mandate their work for them. So I dunno how their going to make series out of these.
Adult swim?  I mean, with their numbers and demographic, it seems like a good fit.  But yeah, the production time looks like a huge issue.

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You mention Steven universe, well they outsource their episodes to South Korea I think.
I only bring it up to say that these shows could be equally popular, albeit among a *very* different fanbase.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on December 05, 2019, 12:10:29 AM
I've watched 4 episodes of "After Life" by Ricky Gervais on Netflix.

Good, but quite dark.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on December 11, 2019, 01:40:25 AM
The show is essentially a spaghetti western set in space. 

And the look and feel is directly inspired by Mos Eisley cantina and the rest of the first half of A New Hope.

If that's not what you're into, you probably won't like it.  But if that appeals to you, then you'll probably like it a lot.

Sounds exactly like something I would love then. Westerns (and their Japanese counterpart Samurai movies) and sci-fi are the two things I grew up on, and Star Wars is my favorite franchise. They remind me of home and my childhood, so if nothing else I'll be wearing nostalgia glasses watching it.

Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on December 12, 2019, 04:00:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtLTxBYZHw&app=desktop&persist_app=1

Context. Batman the animated series back in the 90s. In my mind one of the best portrayals of batman ever, played by Kevin Conroy.
What I loved about this series was that it fleshed out characters in it as people, not just gimmicks. There was depth to the heroes and villains and you actually felt sorry for the characters. The reason why harlequin because so popular was because this was the show that introduced her into the batman genre, not the comics.

Context to this scene, he character baby doll, played by Alison LaPlaca, who only appeared twice in the series, wasn't a child but a woman suffering a condition that stopped her physically aging, so she's a 40 year old in a child's body. She tried to play up her condition as a TV star but got fired for how he acted around others.

This scene is first time she dealt with the reality that she would never have the thing she really wanted, to just be a normal adult.

To this day this is one of the most emotional scenes in western animation to me, both because of how well it's played and after, but also showing that batman did have empathy once (before he got turned into an emotionless stick in the mud), and genuinely wanted to help people.

Loved this series, still rewatch it to this day.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 12, 2019, 04:20:08 PM
What I loved about this series was that it fleshed out characters in it as people, not just gimmicks. There was depth to the heroes and villains and you actually felt sorry for the characters.
Exactly.  And my personal favorite example of that was the episode were Harley Quinn was let out of jail on probation with Bats keeping a close eye on her.

It helped make her character more well-rounded and even helped show that Bats is more than just an action hero, he's genuinely trying to help rehabilitate people, something that gets a bit lost sometimes in between the Bat credit card and the Goddamn Batman comics.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on December 12, 2019, 04:42:57 PM
Exactly.  And my personal favorite example of that was the episode were Harley Quinn was let out of jail on probation with Bats keeping a close eye on her.

It helped make her character more well-rounded and even helped show that Bats is more than just an action hero, he's genuinely trying to help people, something that gets a bit lost sometimes in between the Bat credit card and the Goddamn Batman comics.

Yeah. Also characters like two-face, Mr freeze, the mad hatter, penguin, they did an amazing job making these 'villains' into tragic characters.
I mean it seemed like in the later season or 'red sky series' they lost much of their emotional depth, but I still liked many of their introductions. Even gimmicky characters in the comics like the clock king were given some amazing redesigns and personalities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm_lHHwLUV8&app=desktop&persist_app=1

Also in this series, batman wasn't the invincible hero who could stand toe to toe with superman in a suit, he was more vulnerable. Later in this same episode above he fights against the clock king in a clock tower, and he can't lay a finger on him because the clock king has such impeccable timing he can predict all Batman's moves down to the millisecond, forcing batman to outthink him
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on December 22, 2019, 09:30:09 PM
Saw the Witcher on Netflix. The story was kinda thin, I think, but I was slightly entertained.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on December 23, 2019, 04:30:09 PM
Been watching the new Harley Quinn series. First time seeing the trailer I thought it would be hot garbage, a show trying to hard to be edgy with annoying buzzword speech.
But I gave it a try, and it's actually pretty entertaining, you just have to not think to much on other iterations of the characters and it becomes kind of fun. Like if someone died in any other batman series it would be given some attention, but this one just treats death as part of a joke, like the man eating plant regurgitating up a half digested family in ivy's apartment, or joker just shooting his hencemen because he's annoyed.

Either way, it's silly and kinda fun, almost like an adult version of batman brave and the bold. I've always liked Harley and ivy together as friends and possible relationship, and some character redesigns is pretty fun like clayface coming off like a Shakespearean actor.

If you like the batman universe but okay with a less serious take on it it's worth a watch.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on December 23, 2019, 10:05:24 PM
Dark.

Intriguing. The past is the future and the future is the past.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 24, 2019, 10:15:10 AM
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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 28, 2019, 09:54:47 PM
Like everyone else on the planet, I've started watching The Witcher.  Damn I need to start playing the games, lol.

Overall, it's a great series.  The setwork and costumes seem particularly good, and all the main characters seem to be cast well.

But I can't understand some of the dialogue to save my life.

*Geralt enters a bar*
Random guy:  "Grrr!  Git outta here, Witcher!  Blaargaviken has no time for the likes of you!  Maybe in Glaaviven or Blaavekiken, but no in our fair city of Blaargaviken!"
Geralt:  *brooding silence*
Random guy2:  "Do'as Glambert seez, Witcher.  I can tear off that mane o'yers if my name is Yenfrey Ettinbald!
Geralt:  *silence as Geralt contemplates the undocumented chemical spill that caused mothers to misname their sons so badly*

And what sort of name is Roach?  Geez!

All I'm saying is that the proper names don't exactly roll off the tongue.  In some ways, I miss Game of Thrones.  At least I could understand names like Dorne or Littlefinger or Night King.

And jeez, the exposition dumps!  One of the characters even goes meta and leaves a lampshade on the fact that he just dumped some exposition on the audience.

Another strange thing I noticed is that characters sometimes don't emote when delivering their lines.  I swear, a lot of their dialogue is really compelling, it just doesn't have quite the emotion behind it that it ought to have.  Don't ham it up, but something would be nice.  Some secondary characters deliver their lines like they're ordering take-out.

And why the f do mage lessons have to be so dangerous??  If magic users are rare, then it would make a lot of sense to cultivate their gifts as gingerly as possible, cause if any of them buy the farm, that's a very important asset down the drain.  As Negan once said, "People are a resource!"
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on December 31, 2019, 12:35:10 AM
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Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 14, 2020, 02:50:44 PM
Does anyone like American horror story?
I've seen a few of the seasonal opening episodes and it could never entice me to watch further.
It's never scary. It's poorly acted. Really poorly acted. The stories often seem absolutely ridiculous.
Or is that somehow the thing? Is there some meta self-mockery element I'm missing here? How does this show have like 7 or so seasons?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on January 15, 2020, 02:58:47 PM
I watched 2 seasons. Both of them were completely weird and nonsensical. Yet, I still watched them to the end because I'm one of those people who has to see how things turn out no matter how bad.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on January 15, 2020, 04:32:08 PM
I've seen the first series. It's true, it's not scary, just strange, often nonsensical plots you just wait to see resolved. The one upside was developing an appreciation for Dylan McDermott, and just how at the age he was in the series it's amazing how good he looked.
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If a series can't satisfy my horror jollies at least it can satisfy my eye candy jollies.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 16, 2020, 01:14:35 AM
There was a scene in The Witcher that really impressed me and I haven't really been able to put it into words until now.

An army marches through a forest and an enemy mage places her hands on the ground.  Magically, mushrooms sprout amongst the army and soldiers tread headlessly upon them, spilling out toxic fumes.  In seconds, most of the company is dead or dying, falling over with white foam leaking from their mouths.

This magical attack really impressed me with its sheer cleverness and effeciency.  It was a brilliant move because it negated the army's main strength - armor and numbers - which offer zero protection against poison gas.  It also exploited the army's standard tactics - marching in dense columns and marching over vegetatation without knowing or caring what they're stepping on.  Nor can the army realistically fight back against the mushrooms even if they were aware of the threat.

Mages often cast flashy and extremely costly spells - lightning or fireballs or meteor storms.  And that's always struck me as comically foolish overkill, like using a sledgehammer on a nest of ants.  And of course, a mage that runs out of mana is a dead mage.  Truly talented mages don't waste their energy on flashy, gimmicky spells - they use the tools that are just right for the job and no more.  And man, that mushroom spell was a nearly perfect example of that.

And more generally, there's something exceedingly satisfying about applying just enough force in just the right place to accomplish a task.  That's true talent right there.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 16, 2020, 08:27:06 AM
Does anyone like American horror story?
I watched part of Freak Show, but lost interest.  I only bothered because the first one I saw, Asylum, was something I enjoyed.  I never bothered after Freak Show.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on January 18, 2020, 10:05:34 AM
Watched 1½ episodes of BBCs production of Dracula on Netflix. It's pretty good, and they seems to do narrative arcs instead of the whole Hollyweird approach to vampyres.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on January 18, 2020, 10:12:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI54dTWPYhM&t=333s

probably not many here who grew up as children in the 80s, but as someone who did, this here presents both an interesting outlook, and worrying stance on this kind of presentation.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s, I was privy to a lot of strong role model cartoons, things like he-man, transformers, batman, superman, teenage mutant turtles, voltron, ghostbusters, gargoyles, many of which were shows with strong male role models. And being a kid who didn't have many real life strong male role models (dad was a drunk who didn't spent time with us, grandfather lived in london and died when I was 8, older brother didn't really play much with me), for me looking to strong male role models in other forms of media was what helped me have a positive outlook on men as much as mums influence gave me a positive outlook on women.

I did like shows aimed at girls too growing up, rainbow bright, my little pony, care bears, strawberry shortcake, she-ra, I watched both  shows aimed at boys and girls back then, which I think reflects now how I can like anything from a gorey horror movie to a sappy love story.

Basically, I grew up having the ideals of both strong male and female traits from people and concepts. As I said for me it had to come from other sources, but I feel it helped me appreciate strong male roles in society when seeing heroes I enjoyed being in those roles, the same as female role models.

So looking at this today, the video, in summery, is a tear down of this bullshit remark of thundercats. In the original, the concept was these powerful warriors who fought against the evil mummra and his forces lead by liono, the strong, brave leader of the thundercats along with other character strong in their own right.

The argument is often been made that strong role models in the 80s and 90s were aimed at boys while the softer roles were aimed at girls. While I agree there were more male role models in stronger roles back then, there were still strong female characters too. I was a huge fan of buffy the vampire slayer and xena warrior princess.

today, there are cartoons which now focus on strong female leads, which is great, I'm down for that. I've a fan of wonder woman, like say loved buffy the vampire slayer, xena and she-ra, so having cartoons for kids with focused on stronger female leads is great, I have watched episodes of my little pony and impressed how they updated it, and now they've remade she-ra, which is fine, again, I'm all for making shows showing strong female characters in a variety of roles action and everyday life.

The issue here however, is seeing what they did with thundercats roar, the remake of the series (its second remake actually). I saw interviews about the show maker, and the guy himself has come out and said his intent for this show, was to make it as a purposely mean spirited parody of the original show, because he hated his older brother growing up, who was a big fan of thundercats, so 30 years later his way of getting back at him, was to remake the show and do so by emasculating the main characters, showing male leads like liono are incompetent and stupid, and incapable of handling anything on there own, needing others to clear up any problems he's faced with.

This to me is kind of insulting, and a little scary. Given all I said, I grew up like say having ideals of strong male role models from these shows. and i'm now down for having shows that present strong female role models for young people like she-ra or my little pony remakes. But unlike back in the 80s, it seems okay to broadcast a cartoon that makes little boys feel like their stupid and incompetent, and that being brave and strong is not a positive trait for boys. This is what this remake is teaching children. And for me, I don't want my nephews seeing shit like this and getting negative thoughts about themselves because of how they are born.

Thats what this message sends to me. In the past, sending a message to little girls that they should all be demur and meek and dainty is now thrown down on, which is good because thats all little girls were given back then, and yet now they have different sources of role models to take away from. So why can't little boys be given the same level of understanding, that is okay to be strong and brave and lead people, like the older cartoons did, instead networks think its okay to send the message now that little boys are stupid and incompetent, its the same bullshit of, like in the past, only sending the message that little girls should only be one way.

Yeah, its a lot to unpack, just going off my own experiences growing up, concerns today for what children are being shaped by, and just begging the question why is this acceptable?
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 18, 2020, 10:37:08 PM
probably not many here who grew up as children in the 80s
*waves*  And I have the DOS games and used ecto cooler containers to prove it!

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Growing up in the 80s and 90s, I was privy to a lot of strong role model cartoons, things like he-man, transformers, batman, superman, teenage mutant turtles, voltron, ghostbusters, gargoyles, many of which were shows with strong male role models.
Same.

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The argument is often been made that strong role models in the 80s and 90s were aimed at boys while the softer roles were aimed at girls. While I agree there were more male role models in stronger roles back then, there were still strong female characters too. I was a huge fan of buffy the vampire slayer and xena warrior princess.
Imo, while there were lots and lots of male role model characters in the 80s, the 90s exploded with both female role models and ensemble groups with both men and women in equal status.

I just revisited Battletech and Exosquad and they both had women operating alongside men and at equal capacity as men - both heroic and villainous - and I remember how at the time, that seemed like a completely normal thing, not taken as a political statement or "controversial" or anything like that.  It simply wasn't that big a deal.  Man, I miss those days.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on January 18, 2020, 10:52:33 PM
I loved X-Men the animated series, same deal, a group of strong male and female characters and often having episodes focused on them as individuals so it was just the thing as it should be. Storm was one of my fav characters from the show along with wolverine and beast.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on January 19, 2020, 09:57:34 PM
I loved X-Men the animated series, same deal, a group of strong male and female characters and often having episodes focused on them as individuals so it was just the thing as it should be. Storm was one of my fav characters from the show along with wolverine and beast.
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She was quite the powerhouse on the field.  Ironically, her private life is very sad and miserable at times.  That struggle really helped make her compelling.  The good ol' strength-weakness combo that Marvel prides itself on.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 20, 2020, 08:18:53 AM
Finally getting around to watching Gotham.  I know, I know; Did I just crawl out from under a rock?  Well kind of.  That out of the way, I've really enjoyed the first two disks.  I'm not hot on cop shows, but throw in a little film nor and I'm going to get hooked.  I just ordered the whole series at Amazon.

The other stuff I like is that Batman is my favorite DC character, and while he doesn't appear in Gotham, there is a lot of back story that I was deprived of as a child as a result of my parent's prudish attitude toward violent comic books.  Penguin plays a big part so far, and I've always been fascinated by him, even though in the old Adam West series, he was far too silly to have much appeal.  The DC Universe doesn't give him any play, but I'm starting to understand some of his appeal in Gotham.  I also like that Gotham doesn't seem to slow down.  Around every corner there is always an "Oh no!  What now?" thing that keeps me glued.  There are characters in Gotham that I never knew existed before.  I don't know if they are part of the original Batman mythology or not, but I like how movies evolve the myths.  Who knew zombies could run 50 years ago?  Now everyone knows zombies can run and are really fast.  Vampires can be warded off with a cross, holy water, and garlic?  Well that's not always true anymore either.  Great fun so far.  Thumbs up!
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on January 26, 2020, 12:59:56 PM
Watching a Breaking Bad marathon for the 1000th time.  It is one of the shows I watch every time it is on.  It never gets old to me.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 26, 2020, 02:16:43 PM
Watching a Breaking Bad marathon for the 1000th time.  It is one of the shows I watch every time it is on.  It never gets old to me.
I bought the series.  I watch it at least once a year, sometimes twice.  Either Breaking Bad or Dexter is the best TV series I've ever seen.  I lean toward Breaking Bad most of the time, but it's a hard call.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on January 26, 2020, 02:19:55 PM
Countdown is a fun horror movie just out on disk.  It was a fun watch.  Besides the tension and jump scares, there are parts that made me laugh.
7/10
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on January 27, 2020, 09:42:56 PM
The good ol' strength-weakness combo that Marvel prides itself on.
Well, until they overdid it and just about every character became such a walking pile of angst and neuroses that there was no good reason to think any of them should be alive outside of an institution, much less still be on the side of goodness and light.

The 80s and 90s Marvel comics left a really sour taste in my mouth.  They used to have a deft touch with making supers human and relatable rather than godlike and remote -- who doesn't understand Peter Parker putting up with an asshole for a boss, for example?

Then everyone had to be gritty, miserable and put-upon one way or another... and ended up being remote and no longer relatable.
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Post by: Munch on January 27, 2020, 10:22:39 PM
Well, until they overdid it and just about every character became such a walking pile of angst and neuroses that there was no good reason to think any of them should be alive outside of an institution, much less still be on the side of goodness and light.

The 80s and 90s Marvel comics left a really sour taste in my mouth.  They used to have a deft touch with making supers human and relatable rather than godlike and remote -- who doesn't understand Peter Parker putting up with an asshole for a boss, for example?

Then everyone had to be gritty, miserable and put-upon one way or another... and ended up being remote and no longer relatable.

I mean, when you think about it, the most popular marvel characters of the 80s and 90s were characters with reasons to be that way. Spiderman, the x-men, these two concepts in marvel often had heroes having reasons to be miserable. Mutants because of the public perception of mutants, from rogue unable to touch or get close to anyone to beast being a mutant in physical apperance to wolverine and his screwed up memories. And then of course spiderman and all the shit he dealt with his awful boss and relationship issues and identity crisis.

Looking at the most popular heroes today like the avengers, they aren't really in the same group. What reason does a multi millionaire playboy, an asgardian god, a good soldier type and a family man archer have the same relatable tones to someone like a teenager today? Maybe hulk might be, but even in the last avengers movie they fixed that problem (for now) removing any issues the character has.

Seems theres more attention on popular heroes today without that kind of antsy and dower attitude they had in the 80s and 90s.
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Post by: trdsf on January 27, 2020, 10:57:03 PM
I mean, when you think about it, the most popular marvel characters of the 80s and 90s were characters with reasons to be that way. Spiderman, the x-men, these two concepts in marvel often had heroes having reasons to be miserable. Mutants because of the public perception of mutants, from rogue unable to touch or get close to anyone to beast being a mutant in physical apperance to wolverine and his screwed up memories. And then of course spiderman and all the shit he dealt with his awful boss and relationship issues and identity crisis.
I'll grant you that re: Spiderman and the X-Men originally -- but in the 80s and 90s, Marvel turned it up to eleven.  The original Wolverine, back when he was still wearing (*shudder*) Michigan blue and gold, that was someone I could see having a beer with.  I wouldn't want to be within a cubic parsec of what they turned him into.

And the other part of the equation that contributed to the mess that was Marvel in the 80s and 90s (and from which the print comics have not yet recovered, so far as I've seen) was their attempt to forcibly create a speculators market for Marvel titles.  Three, four, five, six different covers for the same issue.  Five or so titles for one character.  Crossover storylines that required buying two, three, or more titles just to keep up.

I dunno, maybe I was spoiled by growing up on Kirby's Fantastic Four.


Looking at the most popular heroes today like the avengers, they aren't really in the same group. What reason does a multi millionaire playboy, an asgardian god, a good soldier type and a family man archer have the same relatable tones to someone like a teenager today? Maybe hulk might be, but even in the last avengers movie they fixed that problem (for now) removing any issues the character has.

Seems theres more attention on popular heroes today without that kind of antsy and dower attitude they had in the 80s and 90s.

Well, they're attention is always going to be on the 'popular' ones, because that's where their sales are.  I can't address the movies because I haven't seen them, so I have no opinion on their characterization; I was talking about the comics themselves, and I don't know what relation movie canon has to print canon.
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Post by: Hydra009 on January 27, 2020, 11:22:40 PM
Well, until they overdid it and just about every character became such a walking pile of angst and neuroses that there was no good reason to think any of them should be alive outside of an institution, much less still be on the side of goodness and light.
Most of them have dealt with some pretty serious stuff.  It takes a psychological toll.  The whole point is that they're human underneath the masks, right?

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The 80s and 90s Marvel comics left a really sour taste in my mouth.  They used to have a deft touch with making supers human and relatable rather than godlike and remote -- who doesn't understand Peter Parker putting up with an asshole for a boss, for example?

Then everyone had to be gritty, miserable and put-upon one way or another... and ended up being remote and no longer relatable.
The late 90s overdid the dark and edgier themes, but on the whole, I don't think those decades were that bad.  They really cemented a whole slew of characters, particularly the Avengers and the X-Men.  And the big crossover events like Iron Man's Armor Wars and Infinity Gauntlet/War/Crusade was a nice cherry on top.

The Gold/Silver Age...I mean, I guess they were good for the time, the 60s introduced a hell of a lot of good characters, but I honestly have a hard time with the camp and/or drug-fueled absurdity of that time.  Stuff like Thanoscopter, for example.  And not just that but the whole cultural backdrop is a bit strange and off-putting - flower power, disco (disco-themed mutant?!), bizarre racial stuff.  A lot of that stuff just has not aged well, imo.
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Post by: Hydra009 on January 27, 2020, 11:39:07 PM
Here's more of what I'm talking about with 60s camp:

(https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Iron-Man-Stark-Marvel-1960s-recharge.jpg)

(https://i.stack.imgur.com/hZnfR.jpg)

Is it really necessary to narrate everything with thought balloons?  Sheesh, it's like they were paid by the word back then.  And Iron Man roller skates?!  Oy Vey.


I dunno, maybe I was spoiled by growing up on Kirby's Fantastic Four.
Uggh.

I guess they're alright, but that stuff was like Leave It To Beaver with the addition of superpowers.  I just can't take it.  Hell, I skipped out on The Incredibles because they reminded me too much of the FF.
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Post by: AcrobaticDetective on February 02, 2020, 11:01:15 PM
The Mentalist is still my favorite show even though it's been off the air for years now. It is on Amazon and I intend to re-watch it like everyone else re-watches the Office.
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Post by: Mike Cl on February 02, 2020, 11:38:30 PM
The Mentalist is still my favorite show even though it's been off the air for years now. It is on Amazon and I intend to re-watch it like everyone else re-watches the Office.
How could I forget that show?  I liked it quite a bit and wouldn't mind seeing some reruns.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Munch on February 05, 2020, 08:55:07 PM
I really need to do catchup on watching all of bojack horseman. The series has ended and I'm avoiding final episode reveals all over youtube and news popups.
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Post by: LoriPinkAngel on February 06, 2020, 02:54:12 PM
Currently I am watching reruns of The Middle.  I enjoy shows about families that are not rich.  I also liked Rosanne.  I do watch The Connors sometimes.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: AcrobaticDetective on February 06, 2020, 09:42:27 PM
I really need to do catchup on watching all of bojack horseman. The series has ended and I'm avoiding final episode reveals all over youtube and news popups.

I've never seen it.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on February 08, 2020, 12:21:10 AM
Star Trek Picard drinking game for Season 1, Episode 3:

Take a shot every time a character refers to Jean-Luc Picard as "JL"
Try to make it to the end of the episode before hospitalization (note that I didn't say 'without hospitalization')
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 14, 2020, 12:18:21 AM
I've been watching Locke and Key on netflix.  Cautiously liking it so far.  7.5/10 sounds about right.

A while back (9 years just flies by!) I told you guys that Fox was going to do a TV adaptation of the comics but they saw the pilot and 86ed it.  :(  A shame really, since the comics were practically begging for a live-action adaptation of some kind.

If you guys haven't read the Locke and Key comics, do yourself a favor and dive right in.  You won't regret it.  Murder + grief + magic keys + lovecraftian horrors = a little light horror that slow burns into something truly special.

Well, I saw the first episode of the TV show and I've gotta say, it's not half bad.  It got off to a really rocky start - the initial horror was really shortchanged and I hope people don't immediately exit out.  The casting is okay I guess, but the characters don't come across as very distinct or memorable, which is a shame because they are distinct and memorable as hell in the comics.  The only character who nailed it was the young'un Bode, who's every bit the inquisitive little brownie he is in the comics.  Aloha!

And as an aside, I friggin' love the anywhere key.  That key is my jam.  You put that key into any door while knowing where you want to go, and bam, just open the door and you're there.  The only downside is that there has to be a door at the other end.  Basically, you can Jumper all over the place.  Super useful.

I'm also a big fan of the head key.  Stick it in the back of someone's neck and you can futz around with the contents of their head - memories as well as personality.  You can even do it to yourself if you're especially adventurous, just be VERY careful in there.  The key has lots of unwritten limitations and unintended consequences, but it's unquestionably effective and extremely useful when used wisely.  Extremely regrettable when used unwisely, though.

Combine the two and you're basically unstoppable.
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Post by: SGOS on February 14, 2020, 09:44:13 AM
I think I mentioned that I bought the complete series of Smallville.  I bought it used so it wouldn't hurt too much if I made a mistake.  I'm just starting season 4, and I'm almost embarrassed to say how much fun I'm having with it.  Embarrassed because part of it is... well OK, cheesy, but if you can tolerate sci-fi that clearly isn't serious drama and and disregards including some actual science in the stories, its just fun fantasy.  The writing and directing is open to almost any chiche' that will get a chuckle, and sometimes I end up holding my head in my hands while screaming, "Oh No!"  because it's all so obvious.  I still don't know if it's bad directing or bad writing or if the team leaves these things in as a satire of the action genre itself.  Example:  Superman and Lois Lane are attacked by the Black Helicopters, with guys in black suits and helmets rappelling to the ground, or simply jumping.  They are equipped with guns that shoot lightening.  Superman beats the crap out of two of them and shoots down one chopper with his x-ray eyes.  Lois beats the crap out of another one, and they get away.  Now comes another black helicopter with the honcho military guy.  It lands in the aftermath and Honcho gets out with a huge cigar in his mouth, and while he's surveying the carnage, a guy in black runs up to him, and says, "We lost them, Sir."   He takes the stogie out of his mouth and says, "Find them."  I'm already cringing at, "We lost them," since Honcho has been observing the whole thing from the air.  Why is this guy explaining it to him?  I guess I've heard, "We lost them, Sir, " followed by, "Find them," too many times.  But then it turns out that all Clark and Lois did was run back to the farmhouse.  Yeah, like now they're safe because they're in the farm house.  Good Grief.

Still, even with the technical production flaws, intentional or by accident, it's a lot of fun.  More fun than I've had with a series since Breaking Bad.
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Post by: Sal1981 on February 14, 2020, 11:46:06 AM
I've seen the trailer for Locke & Key, might check it out once my addiction to RuneScape fades ...
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 15, 2020, 12:32:20 AM
I've seen the trailer for Locke & Key, might check it out once my addiction to RuneScape fades ...
I can't give away too much without spoiling this, but the TV show is misleadingly tame right out the gate.  Give it some time, at least the whole first episode, if not the tried-and-true 3 episode sampler.  There are some massive twists and turns down the road.

And of course, the first issue of the comic series is a surefire way to know if this is up your alley or not.  The very first issue freaked me out in the best possible way.
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Post by: trdsf on February 16, 2020, 11:42:14 AM
Not looking forward to the upcoming Foundation series (ostensibly) based on the Asimov books.  As usual for Asimov properties, the show creators got it wrong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)).  As the announcement put it:

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Foundation, from Skydance Television, David S. Goyer and Josh Friedman, chronicles the thousand year saga of The Foundation, a band of exiles who discover that the only way to save the Galactic Empire from destruction is to defy it.

Uh, no.  Did they actually read the books, or did they just go through and see which names came up most often?  I already suspect the latter.  And who the fuck are 'Brother Dawn', 'Brother Day' and 'Brother Dusk'?  They have no source in the novels.  None.  I know.  I re-read the core trilogy about once a year, and the later additions periodically.

And meanwhile, Harlan Ellison's script for I, Robot remains unproduced...
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Post by: Shiranu on February 16, 2020, 03:02:22 PM
Just finished season 3 of The Expanse, and fuck me am I glad I avoided any spoilers for this series.

It is 100% best to go into it cold. Probably going to see if our local bookstore has the first book of the series to start reading it as well. I know the first one was nominated (won?) a Hugo, and the series as a whole has been nominated as well... and the writers were both heavily involved in the production of the T.V. series.

If you like Sci-fi, it is 110% recommended. It is perhaps the most "science" sci-fi I have ever seen.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 16, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
Watching a show about people who don't know one another but who are 'scientifically' matched get married.

I love my gf, but she has the worst taste in shows and films. XD
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Post by: Shiranu on February 16, 2020, 03:38:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIovBe7pL8
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Post by: Shiranu on February 16, 2020, 03:38:51 PM
Watching a show about people who don't know one another but who are 'scientifically' matched get married.

I love my gf, but she has the worst taste in shows and films. XD

Ewww lol
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Post by: Munch on February 16, 2020, 03:51:19 PM
Watching a show about people who don't know one another but who are 'scientifically' matched get married.

I love my gf, but she has the worst taste in shows and films. XD

Is it a serious show with actual people or just a made up premise, because if it's not the latter we have a new contender for love island

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8YX1i_KrHzU

My aunt watches this show...

Unironically..

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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 16, 2020, 04:48:59 PM
Is it a serious show with actual people or just a made up premise, because if it's not the latter we have a new contender for love island

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8YX1i_KrHzU

My aunt watches this show...

Unironically..

Oh, it's a real show with real people...

https://youtu.be/oM0dHMOekTU

And yes, it's completely and utterly awful.
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Post by: Munch on February 16, 2020, 04:57:01 PM
You have my deepest sympathies :(
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Post by: GSOgymrat on February 16, 2020, 08:31:45 PM
Watching a show about people who don't know one another but who are 'scientifically' matched get married.

I love my gf, but she has the worst taste in shows and films. XD

I read somewhere that Love Is Blind was good. We watched 15 minutes and quit. It's really off-putting.
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 16, 2020, 09:25:50 PM
Not looking forward to the upcoming Foundation series (ostensibly) based on the Asimov books.
Ha, I remember a decade or so ago when I was similarly up in arms about a planned Foundation movie that didn't seem like it was going to do the source material justice.  It was all "we don't know that for sure" and "it might be good".  Foolish.  Naive.  Unsuspecting.

Thankfully, we'll never know because it was cancelled.  I will never know vindication, but I do know this: we live in a comparatively fortunate universe.  Grateful or not, it makes no difference.

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And who the fuck are 'Brother Dawn', 'Brother Day' and 'Brother Dusk'?  They have no source in the novels.
Presumably, brothers within the ruling family.  I suppose the producers wanted that family to serve as a metaphor for the galactic empire or something.  Seems stupid and directly contrary to Asimov's perspective of society lurching forwards (and backwards) due to forces much larger than individual people.
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Post by: AcrobaticDetective on February 16, 2020, 11:06:41 PM
Just finished After Life. It was fantastic. It was also exactly what I needed.
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Post by: trdsf on February 17, 2020, 12:04:41 AM
Ha, I remember a decade or so ago when I was similarly up in arms about a planned Foundation movie that didn't seem like it was going to do the source material justice.  It was all "we don't know that for sure" and "it might be good".  Foolish.  Naive.  Unsuspecting.

Thankfully, we'll never know because it was cancelled.  I will never know vindication, but I do know this: we live in a comparatively fortunate universe.  Grateful or not, it makes no difference.
It's a little sobering to think that the best treatment Asimov has gotten from Hollywood was Bicentennial Man (which actually wasn't bad).  But yes, I remember the proposed Foundation movie.  It was to be done by Roland Emmerich.  Now, I have no particular objection to Emmerich's 'disaster porn' movies, but if there was ever a story that was not disaster porn, it's Foundation.

Presumably, brothers within the ruling family.  I suppose the producers wanted that family to serve as a metaphor for the galactic empire or something.  Seems stupid and directly contrary to Asimov's perspective of society lurching forwards (and backwards) due to forces much larger than individual people.
This this this.

I will never understand the need to fuck around with what's unarguably a monumentally popular and successful story.  If they wanted to tell a different story from Foundation, make a different fucking series.  Don't slap the name on it and then swap things around randomly -- that's how we got the abomination that was the Will Smith 'I, Robot' movie.  Only time I nearly walked out of a theater on a trailer...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on February 17, 2020, 12:25:58 AM
It's a little sobering to think that the best treatment Asimov has gotten from Hollywood was Bicentennial Man (which actually wasn't bad).
I saw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightfall_(2000_film).  Yes, David Carradine.  Aside from that, my only recollections are how low-budget and completely unenthusiastic it was.  And very loosely adapted, to boot.

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But yes, I remember the proposed Foundation movie.  It was to be done by Roland Emmerich.
Oof.  Suddenly, I remember why I was opposed to it.  Well, at least he went on to do bigger and better things like White House Down, the Independence Day sequel no one wanted, and Midway (which just barely made a profit)

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I will never understand the need to fuck around with what's unarguably a monumentally popular and successful story.
Ego.  Pure and simple.

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If they wanted to tell a different story from Foundation, make a different fucking series.
But you won't go see it if it's called something else.  If they call it something you're already familiar with, they have name recognition.  All they really have to do after that is slap a couple famous names on the poster, crank out a flashy trailer, and they'll make at least some profit.  Slash and burn cinema.
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Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 17, 2020, 12:50:24 AM
I read somewhere that Love Is Blind was good. We watched 15 minutes and quit. It's really off-putting.

Apparently the one I'm talking about is the local equivalent of 'married at first sight'.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mike Cl on February 17, 2020, 09:49:18 AM
It's a little sobering to think that the best treatment Asimov has gotten from Hollywood was Bicentennial Man (which actually wasn't bad).  But yes, I remember the proposed Foundation movie.  It was to be done by Roland Emmerich.  Now, I have no particular objection to Emmerich's 'disaster porn' movies, but if there was ever a story that was not disaster porn, it's Foundation.
This this this.

I will never understand the need to fuck around with what's unarguably a monumentally popular and successful story.  If they wanted to tell a different story from Foundation, make a different fucking series.  Don't slap the name on it and then swap things around randomly -- that's how we got the abomination that was the Will Smith 'I, Robot' movie.  Only time I nearly walked out of a theater on a trailer...
I know little about the proposed Asimov movies (loved the books).  But two movies stick in my craw--Planet of the Apes and I Am Legend.  Both are small books but are classics.  Both are not that complicated to make a film out of--but the efforts for both were irritating to say the least.  Both movies (especially the first one of each) was a huge disappointment for me in that the fucked up the story in each case and made them much less than what the books were---and they missed the point of both books.  Still pisses me off.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: SGOS on February 17, 2020, 09:59:52 AM
I know little about the proposed Asimov movies (loved the books).  But two movies stick in my craw--Planet of the Apes and I Am Legend.  Both are small books but are classics.  Both are not that complicated to make a film out of--but the efforts for both were irritating to say the least.  Both movies (especially the first one of each) was a huge disappointment for me in that the fucked up the story in each case and made them much less than what the books were---and they missed the point of both books.  Still pisses me off.
I had no idea Planet of the Apes was from Asimov.  Now I've got to read the actual story, because I want to know what the movie was actually supposed to be. A few years ago, a theater which occasionally shows an old classic, did the 1st Planet of the Apes.  It's the only special showing that I ever went to, even though I own the disk.  It's dated for sure, but I still think it's an important film.  But it wouldn't be the first time Hollywood demolished a story.
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 17, 2020, 11:04:31 AM
I had no idea Planet of the Apes was from Asimov.
It's not.  Mike was taking more broadly about classic stories that he perceives to be poorly adapted.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Mike Cl on February 17, 2020, 02:35:21 PM
I had no idea Planet of the Apes was from Asimov.  Now I've got to read the actual story, because I want to know what the movie was actually supposed to be. A few years ago, a theater which occasionally shows an old classic, did the 1st Planet of the Apes.  It's the only special showing that I ever went to, even though I own the disk.  It's dated for sure, but I still think it's an important film.  But it wouldn't be the first time Hollywood demolished a story.
Ooops----did not mean to imply that Planet of the Apes was by Asimov--it was written by Pierre Boulle.  My point was hollywood took a great book with a powerful, yet simple story.  They added a dumb ending when the book ending would have been much more powerful.  The book really is a small book and I bet if you started reading early, one could easily finish it in a day.  The same with I Am Legend--maybe even more so.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on March 05, 2020, 09:24:48 PM
After watching more Star Trek Picard, I'm amazed at the number of people who live out their golden years surrounded by archaic technology.  I thought that Star Trek just had a few people enamored with ye olden days, but instead its a veritable epidemic of renaissance fair fever.  Bridge to sickbay, medical emergency!

This would be like me and half of you guys retiring from our jobs to literally live in caves, spearfish, and write scrolls.  Clearly, in the future, advanced technology must be truly horrifying to engender such a love of the past.
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Post by: Munch on March 11, 2020, 03:13:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLq4gUGhgXo

the funny part is, the way the BBC responds to the hate fans are giving them over this, sounds exactly the same flatlined response blizzard gave its fans in their recent turmoil, just a flat, robotic response without giving any real acknowledgment of their failings.

Its funny how big companies like blizzard and the bbc are so disconnected from the fans who rose their products into such heights, meanwhile you have people like the producers of the sonic movie who actually listened to fan criticism going back and fixing their mistakes, which ended up making them millions in box office. 
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Post by: Shiranu on March 11, 2020, 04:10:13 PM
After watching more Star Trek Picard, I'm amazed at the number of people who live out their golden years surrounded by archaic technology.  I thought that Star Trek just had a few people enamored with ye olden days, but instead its a veritable epidemic of renaissance fair fever.  Bridge to sickbay, medical emergency!


Can't blame them, electronic technology is obnoxious enough as it is today and proven to be bad for you... cant imagine what it must be like in their time.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on March 11, 2020, 07:40:30 PM
Can't blame them, electronic technology is obnoxious enough as it is today and proven to be bad for you... cant imagine what it must be like in their time.
In the 24th century, they figured out a good work/life balance (no warp driving while texting), plus no profit motive, which cuts down on like 90% of the obnoxiousness.

At the very least, I'd love to see a retired Starfleet officer using a VR headset or on a holodeck.  I'd also love to see a civilian taking part in one of The Doctor's holonovels.  That'd be solid.  (Problematic wordplay unintended)
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Sal1981 on March 17, 2020, 03:27:28 AM
Westworld season 3 began yesterday.

It's some of the  same shenanigans from the previous season and
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Post by: Hydra009 on March 17, 2020, 03:33:33 AM
Westworld season 3 began yesterday.
Indeed it did.  I'm still processing it.  Suffice it to say that I like the new direction this show has taken.  But there are things in this show that (deliberately) don't quite make sense and I have a theory about that...
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Shiranu on March 17, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
Second season of Altered Carbon was really good, but I have to be honest... I need to re-watch the first season, because I clearly forgot alot.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: Hydra009 on April 01, 2020, 07:55:20 PM
New episodes of Rick and Morty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDqQDTnJKE
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Post by: Shiranu on April 01, 2020, 09:32:03 PM
New episodes of Rick and Morty!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDqQDTnJKE

Thank god.

Thinking about that, I've gone back and started re-watching Community, Dan Harmon's original baby... fuck me, it's so good.

Honestly I would put it above R&M, though they are both amazing.
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Post by: GSOgymrat on April 01, 2020, 11:46:36 PM
We are halfway through Tiger King and totally engrossed. I lived on an exotic animal farm for two and a half years, so some of this stuff is like going back to when I was 20, including the gay three-way romance and the unsolved murder.

https://youtu.be/acTdxsoa428
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 06, 2020, 09:41:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrTVaaDD8BI

To anyone considering watching Star Trek Picard during the quarantine.  Please don't.

I gave it a fair shake - not just the three-episode trial run, but the whole first season.  I will not watch another episode of this show and probably not a new episode of Trek ever again.

ST:Picard is visually stunning and the plot seems intriguing, but the sad reality is that the plot is hot garbage littered with cheap nostalgia, absolute nonsense, and the most godawful characters I've ever seen in Trek (Neelix would be a welcome reprieve at this point).  I have literally read fanfics that were better than this.

If you need a Trek fix, do yourself a favor and watch The Orville.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 11, 2020, 06:09:57 AM
The Pale Horse is one of my favorites of Agatha Christie's many mysteries. I was looking forward to the BBC version but they changed the story far too much for my taste.

https://youtu.be/L7fGhHzRGG4

The remake of And Then There Were None was much better.

https://youtu.be/HfFqHONPUa0
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: trdsf on April 11, 2020, 04:44:03 PM
I generally look askance at most book adaptations -- the number of times it's been done wrong vastly outnumbers the number of times it's been done right.
Title: Re: TV Series Thread
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 11, 2020, 08:58:19 PM
I generally look askance at most book adaptations -- the number of times it's been done wrong vastly outnumbers the number of times it's been done right.

One adaptation that I found better than the book was Gone Girl. I hated the book but watched the movie on cable and it wasn't bad.
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Post by: Sal1981 on April 15, 2020, 08:30:38 PM
Westworld season 4 season 3  episode 5 was OK. I hope it ties in with the 6th episode this Monday, because there have been some loose ends.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 15, 2020, 09:22:20 PM
Westworld season 4 episode 5 was OK.
1) Posted from the future?  Season 4 (far-future?) might be pretty interesting!  :P

2) I beg you to post in the Westworld thread (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=12218.25).  It's lonely af in there.  I realize a lot of people don't have hbo and/or aren't into scifi as much as me, but it's too popular a show to not have watercooler discussion.  At the very least, we can talk about the avowed atheist tertiary character, lol.

3) I kinda liked it.  It had its faults, but it was basically like a mini-movie and a hell of a lot of stuff happened.
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Post by: Sal1981 on April 19, 2020, 01:24:04 PM
Watched Black Mirror episode Black Museum. Astonishing what cruelty & malice people can invent.
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Post by: Hydra009 on April 19, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
The latest episode of Star Wars Clone Wars is better than all the Star Wars movies combined.  Change my mind.
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Post by: LoriPinkAngel on April 25, 2020, 04:49:33 PM
My son and I have been binge watching the series "Barry."  It is a dark comedy about a former Marine who became a hitman who wants to get out of it and he joined an acting class but he keeps having to kill people.
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Post by: Munch on May 01, 2020, 03:10:26 PM
Mum, who I'm in lockdown with, likes watching a british series called Father Brown.

filmed in the cotswald, set in the made up town of Kembleford in the 1950s, its about the local priest who solves crimes in the local community with his friends, normally him riding around on his bike. Was written by the original author GK Chesterton in a book series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zW6fjkoSe4

Its not a bad series, its well directed, some of the acting is good especially from its main star Mark Williams (who played Arthur Weasley, Rons dad in the harry potter series). And despite it having an obvious religious tone with the main character being a priest it doesn't hammer in its religious symbolism that much, its treated kind of like you'd expect the theme of Christianity to be treated in the 1950s.

However it becomes a massive pantomime as it goes episode to episode (episodic series) when every one is the same repeated theme, a murder takes place in this same little town, and its always father brown who solves the case while the local police are useless. More funny is the fact that around the little town of Kembleford, there must be at least 50 manor houses or great halls, all with different super rich toffs living in these large estates that only appeared once that episode and never again.
Plus some of the actors who often used the series as a one time gig, some are really just awful and ham it up big time.

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Post by: GSOgymrat on May 01, 2020, 04:41:00 PM
Mum, who I'm in lockdown with, likes watching a british series called Father Brown.

We watched the first six seasons until Netflix pulled it on March 31.

I love British television.
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Post by: Munch on May 01, 2020, 05:07:33 PM
We watched the first six seasons until Netflix pulled it on March 31.

I love British television.

Didnt you find some of the repeated antics a little silly? ^^
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Post by: GSOgymrat on May 01, 2020, 05:50:28 PM
Didnt you find some of the repeated antics a little silly? ^^

Oh yeah, but also kind of charming because it's done with a wink and a nod. Lady Felicia is going to scream (unless someone beats her to it). The authorities are going to be bumbling and cantankerous. The fabulous period fashions, the grand estates around every bend, the stunning vintage automobiles, the pastural landscapes, the strawberry scones... it's a mythical vision of 1950's England. Father Brown is the most humanistic angel of death priest ever to ride a bicycle. The murder mysteries are good fun and sometimes rather clever. The series is comforting in its familiarity-- vintage television made in the 21st century.
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Post by: Munch on May 01, 2020, 08:00:00 PM
Oh yeah, but also kind of charming because it's done with a wink and a nod. Lady Felicia is going to scream (unless someone beats her to it). The authorities are going to be bumbling and cantankerous. The fabulous period fashions, the grand estates around every bend, the stunning vintage automobiles, the pastural landscapes, the strawberry scones... it's a mythical vision of 1950's England. Father Brown is the most humanistic angel of death priest ever to ride a bicycle. The murder mysteries are good fun and sometimes rather clever. The series is comforting in its familiarity-- vintage television made in the 21st century.

Yeah, its escapist daytime drama, idealized. Always liked when Bunty (Emer Kenny) started in the series, always made me laugh her acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgNmpYA-3M

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Post by: aitm on May 02, 2020, 07:05:51 AM

filmed in the cotswald, .




?
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Post by: Munch on May 02, 2020, 08:15:33 AM
?

Never heard of it?
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Post by: aitm on May 02, 2020, 11:22:10 AM
I don’t know if “it” is a place, style or position...😁
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Post by: Munch on May 02, 2020, 05:12:39 PM
I don’t know if “it” is a place, style or position...😁

It's an area of England known for its quintessential countryside, villages and famed for its honey colour stone used in housing, very expensive to live there

I also spelt it wrong, its cotswold

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotswolds
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Castle_combe_cotswolds.jpg/1280px-Castle_combe_cotswolds.jpg)
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Post by: Sal1981 on May 03, 2020, 05:09:45 AM
Watched the first episode of Into the Night. Interesting premise.
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Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 03, 2020, 05:16:24 PM
We finished the seasons that have been recorded of Barry.  Quite a cliffhanger.  Now we are watching The Sopranos.  My son is flabbergasted that the women on the show are so attracted to Tony.
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Post by: Hydra009 on May 04, 2020, 01:45:37 AM
I just watched the Clone Wars series finale.  Excellent doesn't even begin to describe it.  Quite a few of its frames were noticeably artistic and the music was top notch.  Every element clicked.  This was a TV show that felt more like a miniature movie.

In all seriousness, Dave Filoni needs to be in charge of every Star Wars project from here on out.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on May 04, 2020, 04:48:47 AM
I think the series I have enjoyed lately is Gervais' After Life. Living with Yourself is good but I haven't seen it all. Kominsky Method and A Good Place are funny, light, I haven't finished them either though.

Almost all of the series and movies from every genre looks like some sort of a derivative of each other to me, so the plain, traditional stuff started to look better, I guess.
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Post by: Munch on May 07, 2020, 03:32:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3JxUZpiYk

This is why I love south park. When it comes to bringing up issues of any social and political subject, I would always look to southpark as the good middle ground on most issues.
On the subject of immigration they have always been middle ground on it, such as the goobacks episode where it highlights perfectly the two opposing sides of aging hippie liberal douche and pissed off white trash redneck conservative, basically making fun of both sides of any political argument in america.
And thats what I love about it, south park takes the piss out of everything, there is often no right or wrong answers, so its worth just making fun of both sides of any debate, grounding them more.

the funny part is the comment section who downloaded the video because they became offended at having their interpretation of the symbolism in these episodes brought into question. The premise of south park is, like say, they will take the piss out of everything, often leaving enough room on one side to have its point stick, never having an absolute.
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Post by: Blackleaf on May 07, 2020, 06:22:28 PM
That Mexican Joker gag was hilarious.

"¡No eres mi papa!"

"Si! ¿E tu?"
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Post by: drunkenshoe on May 08, 2020, 05:12:10 AM
I've discovered The Windsors. Honestly, I thought I wouldn't be able to watch it for 5 minutes. Well, what do you know?  It's a good bashing of the British royal family and it is actually funny. I'm surprised they let this happen considering how conservative that establishment is. Needlessly to say, it is not for people who are interested in the family or fans of this kind of industry... LOL
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Post by: GSOgymrat on May 12, 2020, 03:30:43 PM
I watched Hollywood on Netflix and finished feeling a bit disappointed. The series is a star-studded 1940's Hollywood fantasy of what would happen if a Jewish woman could be a studio executive, a black man could write a major motion picture, an interracial couple could lead that picture, and gay men could be open about their relationships. It's very entertaining as a sexy, campy drama but when it tries to draw from historical events, harsh history makes the fantasy story feel like it is trivializing what real people actually experienced. It includes famous people but usually only as touchstones to reinforce the message of inclusion. Rock Hudson is a major character but he's so retconned that I found it distracting. I enjoyed the series as a wish-fulfillment fantasy but it made me yearn for a documentary. I wonder if young views even understand how fanciful this story is, that these 1940's characters have 2020 sensibilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XygNJfBl3Oo
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Post by: Sal1981 on May 17, 2020, 11:27:04 AM
Netflix's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency season 2 sort of ended on a cliffhanger, but there will be no season 3 sadly. I kinda liked the whole reality-bending spin. - 9/10 very entertaining.
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Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 17, 2020, 10:13:48 PM
Arrested Development is our latest binge.  We are watching the antics of the Bluths.
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Post by: trdsf on May 18, 2020, 07:07:02 PM
My ex was a huge fan of Arrested Development, but I could never get into it.  Ditto his other obsessions, Seinfeld and The Simpsons.  I mean, I didn't complain when he put them on, but neither did I really pay much attention.
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Post by: Deidre32 on May 19, 2020, 12:06:53 AM
Have been following Reckoning, and also Defending Jacob on Apple TV. I'd recommend them, but they're not wow or anything.
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Post by: Baruch on May 19, 2020, 01:28:06 AM
Have been following Reckoning, and also Defending Jacob on Apple TV. I'd recommend them, but they're not wow or anything.

Crime dramas.  Do they handle the "mystery reveal" well?
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Post by: Munch on May 20, 2020, 11:02:15 PM
lol, Ruby Rose either quit or was fired from Batwoman. And Warner bros are looking to recast the character for season 2.

They should just accept the icebergs already hit and the boats sinking. What good is recasting a main actress in a lead role one season on, fans won't feel the chemistry with the new actress and the new one won't have that chemistry with the rest of the cast.

Funnest part is how LGBT fans were complaining that she wasn't gay enough.
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Post by: Hydra009 on May 20, 2020, 11:15:33 PM
lol, Ruby Rose either quit or was fired from Batwoman.
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Post by: Munch on May 20, 2020, 11:44:39 PM
Hey if your looking of a strong female DC character to follow in such absence, might I recommend the new animated Harley Quinn series? At least she has a reason to hate most men given what her ex did to her.
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Post by: GSOgymrat on May 21, 2020, 12:06:07 AM
I didn't even know there was a Batwoman TV show. Sounds like I wasn't missing much.
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Post by: Sal1981 on May 21, 2020, 04:52:50 AM
Ricky Gervais' After Life is an emotional rollercoaster ride.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on May 21, 2020, 06:48:50 AM
Netflix's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency season 2 sort of ended on a cliffhanger, but there will be no season 3 sadly. I kinda liked the whole reality-bending spin. - 9/10 very entertaining.

It is a wildly entertaining series. Super.
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Post by: GSOgymrat on May 26, 2020, 07:46:27 AM
We finally got around to seeing Our Planet. The wildlife photography is amazing. It's profoundly sad that these ecosystems are collapsing and many of these creatures will soon be extinct.

https://youtu.be/aETNYyrqNYE
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Post by: SGOS on May 29, 2020, 11:37:37 AM
I'm watching Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, released in 1993.  It may be the first attempt to make money after the Steve Reeves series of my youth.  The special affects are 1950ish, even sub par for 1993, and the plots, acting, and direction are maybe a hair better than the original series, or maybe about the same.  I assume it depicts the 1940s or 1950s because Perry White is still in charge of the Daily Planet.  It's corny as Hell, but I'm liking it.  After all, it is Superman.  But while it's 1950ish feel is OK, they are writing copy on computers at the Daily Planet.  OK they are the big clunky monitors showing DOS commands on the screen, so it does seem antique, but still jarring.  If it wasn't about Superman, I wouldn't bother.  It's Superman in a cheesy romantic comedy.  I'm not sure there is a genre for this that has a name.  Enjoyably weird with one weird thumb up. 
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Post by: Sal1981 on May 29, 2020, 12:06:26 PM
I've watched the pilot of Locke & Key, on Netflix.

It's interesting. I'll watch more episodes to see what shenanigans the author comes up with with the magical keys.
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Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 30, 2020, 06:22:17 PM
We are watching "What We Do In the Shadows."  It is a hilarious comedy about modern day vampires and their daily lives.
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Post by: Sal1981 on May 30, 2020, 06:26:22 PM
We are watching "What We Do In the Shadows."  It is a hilarious comedy about modern day vampires and their daily lives.
Yeah, I've watched the first episode of that on HBO.
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Post by: drunkenshoe on May 30, 2020, 06:56:13 PM
I watched Hollywood on Netflix and finished feeling a bit disappointed. The series is a star-studded 1940's Hollywood fantasy of what would happen if a Jewish woman could be a studio executive, a black man could write a major motion picture, an interracial couple could lead that picture, and gay men could be open about their relationships. It's very entertaining as a sexy, campy drama but when it tries to draw from historical events, harsh history makes the fantasy story feel like it is trivializing what real people actually experienced. It includes famous people but usually only as touchstones to reinforce the message of inclusion. Rock Hudson is a major character but he's so retconned that I found it distracting. I enjoyed the series as a wish-fulfillment fantasy but it made me yearn for a documentary. I wonder if young views even understand how fanciful this story is, that these 1940's characters have 2020 sensibilities.

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