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Title: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: muharram on July 20, 2014, 08:15:41 AM
I'm an Indonesian atheist
In my country,you CAN'T be an atheist. Because you MUST have a religion in order to became a citizen.
Is there anyone else who have the same problem as i am ?
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: SGOS on July 20, 2014, 08:57:57 AM
Can you declare a religion without having to participate in it?
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: aitm on July 20, 2014, 08:58:42 AM
welcome to the forum. I have heard of that, damn shame. Maybe in another 50 years or so eh?
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: StupidWiz on July 20, 2014, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: muharram on July 20, 2014, 08:15:41 AM
I'm an Indonesian atheist
In my country,you CAN'T be an atheist. Because you MUST have a religion in order to became a citizen.
Is there anyone else who have the same problem as i am ?
I can't either, our country sucks, doesn't it? Welcome to the forum. :D

Tinggal di mana? Gw di Jakarta. :)
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: muharram on July 20, 2014, 10:25:11 PM
no,you can't declare you are an atheist. you are forced to choose between 6 religions.
i think that's the worst part, goverment doesnt care you are religious or not,as long as you dont show it.
kinda pointless i think,everyone who atheism is pretending to be a theist in public hahahaha.

@StupidWiz : Bandung bos, dulu gw sempet di bekasi
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 21, 2014, 07:12:44 AM
File an appeal to become a Toothfarianist. I'll back you up on it and tell em you're ordained.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 21, 2014, 12:44:12 PM
Quote from: StupidWiz on July 20, 2014, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: muharram on July 20, 2014, 08:15:41 AMI'm an Indonesian atheist
In my country,you CAN'T be an atheist. Because you MUST have a religion in order to became a citizen.
Is there anyone else who have the same problem as i am ?
I can't either, our country sucks, doesn't it? Welcome to the forum. :D

Tinggal di mana? Gw di Jakarta. :)

On another topic...

I have a friend of mixed South-East Asian descent who enjoys going to Renaissance Fairs here in Southern California.  What would be a traditional woman's garb between the years 1300 to 1600 of the Western calendar?

She usually goes in Western Renaissance clothing, simply because that's what we know about here in the US, but she would like to show up in something authentic to her heritage.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: muharram on July 21, 2014, 06:50:44 PM
off course, and the leprechaun is my prophet no ? lol
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: StupidWiz on July 21, 2014, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: muharram on July 21, 2014, 06:50:44 PM
off course, and the leprechaun is my prophet no ? lol
I prefer Invisible Pink Unicorn as the Goddess to be honest. :))
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 21, 2014, 07:20:41 PM
Here in my country the tooth fairy actually brings money, cold hard cash to kids in exchange for teeth. You should petition your government to allow her dental deity to at least visit and be allowed to worship her as you please. It's not as if kids there don't lose teeth..
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: muharram on July 21, 2014, 07:41:24 PM
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on July 21, 2014, 12:44:12 PM
I can't either, our country sucks, doesn't it? Welcome to the forum. :D

Tinggal di mana? Gw di Jakarta. :)

On another topic...

I have a friend of mixed South-East Asian descent who enjoys going to Renaissance Fairs here in Southern California.  What would be a traditional woman's garb between the years 1300 to 1600 of the Western calendar?

She usually goes in Western Renaissance clothing, simply because that's what we know about here in the US, but she would like to show up in something authentic to her heritage.

you can try batik garb, if i'm not wrong batik has been indonesian clothing from 600 AD. you can search more about batik sir :D
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: Cocoa Beware on July 22, 2014, 07:34:29 AM
Can you fake it without having to devote any time or effort?

In that case I suppose it could be worse.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 22, 2014, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: muharram on July 21, 2014, 07:41:24 PM
you can try batik garb, if i'm not wrong batik has been indonesian clothing from 600 AD. you can search more about batik sir :D

Interesting.  Batik is a type of cloth, but when I google "Batik clothing" I get links to some very beautiful clothing.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: muharram on July 22, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
Quote from: Cocoa Beware on July 22, 2014, 07:34:29 AM
Can you fake it without having to devote any time or effort?

In that case I suppose it could be worse.

no i can't,actually this month is Moslem's fasting or "puasa",so from 4 am untill 6 pm i can't eat,drink,smoke,sex,angry etc.
it's pointless but hey,you don't wanna make "God" angry.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: Cocoa Beware on July 22, 2014, 08:48:05 PM
Quote from: muharram on July 22, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
no i can't,actually this month is Moslem's fasting or "puasa",so from 4 am untill 6 pm i can't eat,drink,smoke,sex,angry etc.
it's pointless but hey,you don't wanna make "God" angry.

That is unhappy news.

Are you allowed to convert to another religion that isnt as demanding, or is everyone else still obligated to do what the Muslims say?

I hope you can find a legal loophole or something to get out of your situation.
Title: Re: Is there anyone who can't declare himself an atheist like me ?
Post by: Nam on July 22, 2014, 09:55:34 PM
Quote from: muharram on July 20, 2014, 08:15:41 AM
I'm an Indonesian atheist
In my country,you CAN'T be an atheist. Because you MUST have a religion in order to became a citizen.
Is there anyone else who have the same problem as i am ?

Where I live, if you can't eat pigs feet you're considered unpatriotic.

True story...









maybe.

-Nam