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Title: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Jmpty on July 17, 2014, 10:05:38 AM
Who do you think deserves the title? Not just boxing, but all martial arts. My pick is easy. Jean Yves Theriault. 69/6/1 61 knockouts, 23 titles undefeated for 12 years.
http://youtu.be/JZS6qOlN3Ig
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Solitary on July 17, 2014, 10:26:17 AM
I pick Bruce Lee as best, with Jet Li second, but it would have been a heck of a match to you see both fight. Solitary
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: stromboli on July 17, 2014, 10:41:14 AM
This guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imi_Lichtenfeld

Imi Lichtenfeld. the badass of badasses. He developed Krav Maga, which is one of the deadliest fighting styles. He fought real world against people attacking Jews in the ghettos of Poland in the 1930s, against the Nazis in WW2, and developed the fighting style that makes the Tzahal (Israeli Defense Force) so dangerous. You can thank this guy for many thousands of dead Muslims.
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Solitary on July 17, 2014, 10:52:08 AM
You always post the most interesting things Strom. I  never heard of this method of fighting. Thanks! Solitary
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 17, 2014, 11:02:00 AM
I vote for the girl..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_uOX-NG2u8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Solitary on July 17, 2014, 11:10:46 AM
 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: OK! You made my day already, now my cheeks hurt. Solitary
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 17, 2014, 11:13:37 AM
To be honest I vote for who gives a rats ass?  The best fighter is the person who lives 80+ years and dies of old age having never been in a fight in their life..
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Solitary on July 17, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
True! "The best way to win a fight is to never be in one." Solarian from Mass Effect. Solitary
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Jmpty on July 17, 2014, 11:53:08 AM
Neither Jet Li, or Bruce Lee, were competitive fighters. Jet Li competed in weapons and kata, only for 3 years, but didn't spar. The Krav Maga guy competed as a wrestler, according to his bio, but nothing of his record exists that I know of.
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Nam on July 17, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
I'm not into fighting (boxing, wrestling, mma etc.,), real or fake.

-Nam
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: aitm on July 17, 2014, 05:49:47 PM
I could say me, but then i would have to.....you know....(insert obligation to kill).....you know....
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: SilentFutility on July 17, 2014, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: Solitary on July 17, 2014, 10:52:08 AM
You always post the most interesting things Strom. I  never heard of this method of fighting. Thanks! Solitary

It is what the Israeli armed forces teach now.
It is also practiced around the world, but the quality of classes and teaching outside of Israel varies wildy from good to very bad. If taught well though, it is very good for self-defence, especially as you practice dealing with common attack situations, multiple opponents, avoiding being at the business end of a knife, etc.

I looked at taking it up, but there are no good schools in my area it would seem, so I am now switching from boxing to MMA.
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: stromboli on July 17, 2014, 07:15:53 PM
My Army son had good success with Muay Thai. Same as Krav, you need a good school. The good thing about both is they focus on the most useful skills, not a whole bunch of separate drills and katas like Taekwondo.
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: JohnS on August 30, 2014, 10:22:33 PM
The only fight game I've ever followed, or cared about,  is the sweet science of boxing, which now is all but dead.  But the all-time greatest boxer pound for pound is an easy choice for me...the great Sugar Ray Robinson!
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: GrinningYMIR on August 30, 2014, 10:30:36 PM
Quote from: Solitary on July 17, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
True! "The best way to win a fight is to never be in one." Solarian from Mass Effect. Solitary

yeah but they cheat and use science. A Salarian is more likely to stab you in the back than to fight you
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Shiranu on August 30, 2014, 10:49:41 PM
Quote from: Jmpty on July 17, 2014, 11:53:08 AM
Neither Jet Li, or Bruce Lee, were competitive fighters. Jet Li competed in weapons and kata, only for 3 years, but didn't spar. The Krav Maga guy competed as a wrestler, according to his bio, but nothing of his record exists that I know of.

Define competitive... Bruce Lee use to do street fighting in HK to earn money, and I would wager it was rather competitive...

(I get what you mean though of ranked competition)
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Solitary on August 30, 2014, 11:39:18 PM
Quote from: Jmpty on July 17, 2014, 11:53:08 AM
Neither Jet Li, or Bruce Lee, were competitive fighters. Jet Li competed in weapons and kata, only for 3 years, but didn't spar. The Krav Maga guy competed as a wrestler, according to his bio, but nothing of his record exists that I know of.
The question was who were the best fighters, not just in controlled sports. I can assure you a street fight where someone is trying to kill you is different than a sport fight with rules. Been there done both when younger. Bruce Lee was a street fighter. Even Ali when he had a knife pulled on him ran away as fast as he could. I know Tyson would not, because he was also a street fighter. A fight I had with a wrestler and weight lifter in high school---the last words I heard were: "I'm going to kill you." I always had fun fighting until then, but after that I took it serious, it was not fun. After that it was like every jack ass in town was starting fights with me to see if they could be the second best fighter in town. I avoid any confrontation if I can, and now I couldn't fight a little girl that knew how to fight. Solitary
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: SGOS on September 01, 2014, 10:35:41 AM
I've lived through too many "greatest fighters of all time" to be too much impressed.  I remember Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazer, Larry Holmes, and Ken Norton.  There was a short span of time, when some really great fighters appeared on the scene all at once and impressed the world greatly.  Anyone of them might have qualified as the "greatest fighter of all time" if they each had appeared separately.  And before my time there was Joe Louis, and a couple of "Rocky Something or Others" who I've heard called the greatest of all times.
Title: Re: The Greatest Fighter Of All Time?
Post by: Solitary on September 01, 2014, 10:44:23 AM
Quote from: JohnS on August 30, 2014, 10:22:33 PM
The only fight game I've ever followed, or cared about,  is the sweet science of boxing, which now is all but dead.  But the all-time greatest boxer pound for pound is an easy choice for me...the great Sugar Ray Robinson!
Agreed! Solitary